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Clubs not named after places

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    #32
    midger
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    There are only two i'm afraid,Arsenal and Port Vale.


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    #33
    semicolon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭semicolon


    preston


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    #34
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    The folks that live in Port Vale Street wouldn't agree
    http://www.look4aproperty.com/property/00318800

    Arsenal was named after a place too , The Woolwich Arsenal
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arsenal

    Preston is a city. Bit of a dump, but a real place. Been there once.


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    #35
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    If Crystal Palace is a place, then so is (Woolwich) Arsenal surely?


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    #36
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Yes. Crystal Palace is a real place. So is Royal Arsenal.

    All clubs in the top 5 divisions are named after places.


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    #37
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Pal wrote: »
    The folks that live in Port Vale Street wouldn't agree
    http://www.look4aproperty.com/property/00318800

    Arsenal was named after a place too , The Woolwich Arsenal
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arsenal

    Preston is a city. Bit of a dump, but a real place. Been there once.

    I wouldnt be too sure that Port Vale Steet wasnt named after the football club, as opposed to the club being named after the street.

    Regarding Arsenal, the place is Woolwich, but the name of the Club is Arsenal after the arms factory. The factory after which the football club is named is an object as opposed to a place - there are "Arsenals"/ munitions factories all over the world and they are all in different places.

    The Arsenal case is distinguishable from Crystal Palace because there is only one Crystal Palace in the world (afaik), so the site (on which the only Crystal Palace in the world stands) has become synonomous with the object and both are now known by the same name.

    Preston definitely exists - train from to Glasgow goes through it


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    #38
    KrazeeEyezKilla
    Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭KrazeeEyezKilla


    prendy wrote: »
    villa?

    Aston is a place in Birmingham.


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    #39
    theCzar
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    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    There is an Everton - but its a street name or somehting, not a district, but a defined place nevertheless

    There's an Everton Valley, and Everton is the area along it. There's a Tranmere too, if the buses with Tranmere written on them are anything to go by :D


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    #40
    bitemybanger
    Registered Users Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    Rangers:confused:


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    #41
    smashey
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    bitemybanger wrote: »
    Rangers:confused:
    Their full name is Glasgow Rangers.

    Also, the clubs are English.


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    #42
    hanton12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭hanton12


    smashey wrote: »
    Their full name is Glasgow Rangers.

    Also, the clubs are English.


    no, neither Celtic nor Rangers have Glasgow in their club name. Rangers Football Club and The Celtic Football Club are the full names.

    but, the question was English teams anyway.


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    #43
    mikemac
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    A pity it's English clubs as I'd be amazed if Queen of the South is a place


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    #44
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,282 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    It's not, they're from Dumfries


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    #45
    kensutz
    Registered Users Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Depends on how far down the leagues you go. Vauxhall Motors are in the Conference North. Fisher Athletic in Conference South.


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    #46
    kensutz
    Registered Users Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭kensutz


    STRANGE LOCATIONS

    "Are there any English clubs apart from Arsenal not named after a geographical location? I might even be wrong about Arsenal. For example, I can think of several clubs from Ireland and South America that feature non-placename names: Shamrock Rovers, Bohemians, Vasco Da Gama, Newell's Old Boys, etc." asks Alan Gregg.

    You're right to say Arsenal aren't named after a geographical location: the club began life in Woolwich, south-east London, as the team of the local Royal Arsenal armament factory. The penchant for odd names was there from the off: the club were initially known as Dial Square, after the sundial over the entrance to the workshop. But after one game they changed their monicker to Royal Arsenal, and a few years later to Woolwich Arsenal.

    So between 1891 and 1913, the club's name made perfect sense. Then, three years after an aborted merger plan with Fulham which would have seen the club move to Craven Cottage, Woolwich Arsenal moved to a church field in north London next to Gillespie Road Underground Station. Highbury. Meanwhile, the "Woolwich" part of their name was quietly dropped, and within 20 years team manager Herbert Chapman had bullied London Underground into changing the name of the tube station to Arsenal, making everyone feel nicely at home.

    As for other English teams? We can only think of two others who aren't named after the place they come from. There's Port Vale, who reside in the Burslem area of Stoke-on-Trent - although there are several places called Port Vale in the Potteries region. And there's west London's Queen's Park Rangers, who are named after Queens Park in north-west London, where most of the team's players lived at the time of the club's inception. But strictly speaking, Arsenal are the only league club in England not named after a geographical location.

    Scotland, meanwhile, can offer you Celtic and Rangers (there are no Glasgow prefixes), Hibernian, the Rovers Albion and Raith (of Coatbridge and Kircaldy respectively) and, unless you're being really picky, Dumfries giants Queen of the South.
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    #47
    mikemac
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    kensutz wrote: »
    Depends on how far down the leagues you go. Vauxhall Motors are in the Conference North. Fisher Athletic in Conference South.

    True, and Total Network Solutions got loads of coverage a few back
    The OP only want league teams- top 4 divisions


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    #48
    kensutz
    Registered Users Posts: 9,186 ✭✭✭kensutz


    TNS are in the Welsh league so that was ruled out.


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    #49
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    micmclo wrote: »
    True, and Total Network Solutions got loads of coverage a few back

    Yes, Jeff Stelling on Sky the day they won the Welsh league said "they'll be dancing in the streets of Total Network Solutions tonight!" - a classic


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    #50
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    OK so Arsenal were originally Woolwich Arsenal, from Woolwich south of the river Thames but then moved north to Islington.

    Which club in the top four divisions is named after an area north of the river but actually plays in a stadium south of the river?


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    #51
    Pal
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    kensutz wrote: »
    Vauxhall Motors are in the Conference North.


    VAUXHALL is a place.

    London's New Covent Garden wholesale market is located there.


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    #52
    MRPRO03
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    Forest Green Rovers


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    #53
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    MRPRO03 wrote: »
    Forest Green Rovers

    Is that an answer to the question two posts above? If so, it's wrong. Clubs in top four divisions only.


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    #54
    JayoCluxton
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    micmclo wrote: »
    True, and Total Network Solutions got loads of coverage a few back
    The OP only want league teams- top 4 divisions

    Just on TNS they are now known as The New Saints!

    In 2005, British Telecom took over Total Network Solutions thus ending the sponsorship deal. The club continues as a full-time outfit under The New Saints banner!


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    #55
    Pal
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    kensutz wrote: »
    .But strictly speaking, Arsenal are the only league club in England not named after a geographical location.

    what do you mean ?
    This is a real geographic location.
    It exists today.

    The Royal Arsenal


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    #56
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Pal wrote: »
    what do you mean ?
    This is a real geographic location.
    It exists today.

    The Royal Arsenal

    The Arsenal is a defined object, not a defined place.

    A similar example is the NI league team Distillery which would have started as a employees/works team.

    In both cases, these clubs were named after a building/ place of work - which could be anywhere. They were not named after a fixed geographical reference point in either case.


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    #57
    gufcfan
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    theCzar wrote: »
    There's an Everton Valley, and Everton is the area along it. There's a Tranmere too, if the buses with Tranmere written on them are anything to go by :D

    Everton is a proper distict in Liverpool city

    Wiki


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    #58
    gufcfan
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭gufcfan


    All clubs in league football in England are named after places.


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    #59
    Imhof Tank
    Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    gufcfan wrote: »
    All clubs in league football in England are named after places.

    .........apart from Arsenal and Port Vale.


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    #60
    Blisterman
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    There is a place called Arsenal in London, but it's named after the team, not the other way around.


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    #61
    gerrytack@hotma
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    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Although common in Scotland, only 3 English League Football Clubs are not named after geographical places.

    Can you name them.
    . emerates,arsenal.reebok,bolton,and madjesky,reading.


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