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Clubs not named after places

  • 07-01-2008 1:16pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭


    Although common in Scotland, only 3 English League Football Clubs are not named after geographical places.

    Can you name them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Arsenal
    QPR??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Arsenal is 1

    Queens Park is a place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭High&Low


    Crystal Palace?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Port Vale?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    No, the Crystal Palace is both an object and a place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    smashey wrote: »
    Port Vale?

    Correct, thats the second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Manchester United aren't from London. :D

    What about Everton? Is there an area in Liverpool called Everton?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    dancor wrote: »
    Arsenal
    QPR??

    Queens Park is part of London.

    Port Vale used to exist, but doesn't anymore, it's part of Stoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭pd101


    MK Dons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    pd101 wrote: »
    MK Dons

    Isn't "MK" an abbreviation of Milton Keynes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    pd101 wrote: »
    MK Dons

    Milton Keynes shouldn't, but does exist.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    smashey wrote: »
    :D

    What about Everton? Is there an area in Liverpool called Everton?

    There is an Everton - but its a street name or somehting, not a district, but a defined place nevertheless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    smashey wrote: »
    Isn't "MK" an abbreviation of Milton Keynes?

    The place Milton Keynes itself was named after Mr Milton and Mr Keynes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭pd101


    smashey wrote: »
    Isn't "MK" an abbreviation of Milton Keynes?

    Oh right, didn't know that. Never occurred to me that it stood for a town


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Charlton Athletic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    smashey wrote: »
    Charlton Athletic?

    No, Charlton = a place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    smashey wrote: »
    Charlton Athletic?

    Charlton is in SE London


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Doh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    villa?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    prendy wrote: »
    villa?

    Aston is a district in Birmingham


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 389 ✭✭Jamey


    prendy wrote: »
    villa?

    Aston is a place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭JimiTime


    is it Aston Villa? I know the club is in Birmingham, put is it an actual place?

    -Edit- in too late :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    prendy wrote: »
    villa?

    I thought that too, but Aston is a place in Brummy.

    Damn good question this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Tranmere Rovers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    dancor wrote: »
    Tranmere Rovers?

    Dancor, take a bow - I think the name originates from the ferry across the Mersey from Birkinhead to Liverpool


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Dancor, take a bow - I think the name originates from the ferry across the Mersey from Birkinhead to Liverpool

    Tranmere is in Birkenhead

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranmere%2C_Merseyside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Dancor, take a bow

    I cant take all the credit, A lad in the office knew that one. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    I stand corrected - I couldnt argue with that.

    I got this question from a pub quiz actually, so now I'm now thinking I should get my entrance money back:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 "V"


    Tranmere is indeed an Area in Birkenhead around Prenton Park.
    Could it be Leyton Orient.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    V wrote:
    Tranmere is indeed an Area in Birkenhead around Prenton Park.
    Could it be Leyton Orient.
    Leyton is an area in London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭midger


    There are only two i'm afraid,Arsenal and Port Vale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 semicolon


    preston


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    The folks that live in Port Vale Street wouldn't agree
    http://www.look4aproperty.com/property/00318800

    Arsenal was named after a place too , The Woolwich Arsenal
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arsenal

    Preston is a city. Bit of a dump, but a real place. Been there once.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    If Crystal Palace is a place, then so is (Woolwich) Arsenal surely?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Yes. Crystal Palace is a real place. So is Royal Arsenal.

    All clubs in the top 5 divisions are named after places.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    Pal wrote: »
    The folks that live in Port Vale Street wouldn't agree
    http://www.look4aproperty.com/property/00318800

    Arsenal was named after a place too , The Woolwich Arsenal
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Arsenal

    Preston is a city. Bit of a dump, but a real place. Been there once.

    I wouldnt be too sure that Port Vale Steet wasnt named after the football club, as opposed to the club being named after the street.

    Regarding Arsenal, the place is Woolwich, but the name of the Club is Arsenal after the arms factory. The factory after which the football club is named is an object as opposed to a place - there are "Arsenals"/ munitions factories all over the world and they are all in different places.

    The Arsenal case is distinguishable from Crystal Palace because there is only one Crystal Palace in the world (afaik), so the site (on which the only Crystal Palace in the world stands) has become synonomous with the object and both are now known by the same name.

    Preston definitely exists - train from to Glasgow goes through it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭KrazeeEyezKilla


    prendy wrote: »
    villa?

    Aston is a place in Birmingham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭theCzar


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    There is an Everton - but its a street name or somehting, not a district, but a defined place nevertheless

    There's an Everton Valley, and Everton is the area along it. There's a Tranmere too, if the buses with Tranmere written on them are anything to go by :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    Rangers:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Rangers:confused:
    Their full name is Glasgow Rangers.

    Also, the clubs are English.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 387 ✭✭hanton12


    smashey wrote: »
    Their full name is Glasgow Rangers.

    Also, the clubs are English.


    no, neither Celtic nor Rangers have Glasgow in their club name. Rangers Football Club and The Celtic Football Club are the full names.

    but, the question was English teams anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    A pity it's English clubs as I'd be amazed if Queen of the South is a place


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    It's not, they're from Dumfries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Depends on how far down the leagues you go. Vauxhall Motors are in the Conference North. Fisher Athletic in Conference South.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    STRANGE LOCATIONS

    "Are there any English clubs apart from Arsenal not named after a geographical location? I might even be wrong about Arsenal. For example, I can think of several clubs from Ireland and South America that feature non-placename names: Shamrock Rovers, Bohemians, Vasco Da Gama, Newell's Old Boys, etc." asks Alan Gregg.

    You're right to say Arsenal aren't named after a geographical location: the club began life in Woolwich, south-east London, as the team of the local Royal Arsenal armament factory. The penchant for odd names was there from the off: the club were initially known as Dial Square, after the sundial over the entrance to the workshop. But after one game they changed their monicker to Royal Arsenal, and a few years later to Woolwich Arsenal.

    So between 1891 and 1913, the club's name made perfect sense. Then, three years after an aborted merger plan with Fulham which would have seen the club move to Craven Cottage, Woolwich Arsenal moved to a church field in north London next to Gillespie Road Underground Station. Highbury. Meanwhile, the "Woolwich" part of their name was quietly dropped, and within 20 years team manager Herbert Chapman had bullied London Underground into changing the name of the tube station to Arsenal, making everyone feel nicely at home.

    As for other English teams? We can only think of two others who aren't named after the place they come from. There's Port Vale, who reside in the Burslem area of Stoke-on-Trent - although there are several places called Port Vale in the Potteries region. And there's west London's Queen's Park Rangers, who are named after Queens Park in north-west London, where most of the team's players lived at the time of the club's inception. But strictly speaking, Arsenal are the only league club in England not named after a geographical location.

    Scotland, meanwhile, can offer you Celtic and Rangers (there are no Glasgow prefixes), Hibernian, the Rovers Albion and Raith (of Coatbridge and Kircaldy respectively) and, unless you're being really picky, Dumfries giants Queen of the South.
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    kensutz wrote: »
    Depends on how far down the leagues you go. Vauxhall Motors are in the Conference North. Fisher Athletic in Conference South.

    True, and Total Network Solutions got loads of coverage a few back
    The OP only want league teams- top 4 divisions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    TNS are in the Welsh league so that was ruled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    micmclo wrote: »
    True, and Total Network Solutions got loads of coverage a few back

    Yes, Jeff Stelling on Sky the day they won the Welsh league said "they'll be dancing in the streets of Total Network Solutions tonight!" - a classic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    OK so Arsenal were originally Woolwich Arsenal, from Woolwich south of the river Thames but then moved north to Islington.

    Which club in the top four divisions is named after an area north of the river but actually plays in a stadium south of the river?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    kensutz wrote: »
    Vauxhall Motors are in the Conference North.


    VAUXHALL is a place.

    London's New Covent Garden wholesale market is located there.


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