New England Patriots Thread Mod Warning Post #253

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Dorsett becomes the latest to jump ship, signing with Seattle. A list of who we've lost so far:

- Tom Brady
- Ted Karras
- Philip Dorsett
- Ben Watson
- Jamie Collins
- Kyle Van Noy
- Elandon Roberts
- Danny Shelton
- Duron Harmon
- Nate Ebner
- Stephen Gostkowski

Brady aside, has there been a turnover like this in the past in one season?

eagle eye wrote: »

Ghost hasn't recovered from his injury yet. This was a cap saving move. I wouldn't be surprised to see him back once he's recovered.

Strange cap saving move if they are accepting $3m in dead cap only to sign him back again.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Brady aside, has there been a turnover like this in the past in one season?

Turnover is one thing but aside from teams that are tanking and purposefully eating dead cap, I can't really remember a team that has lost that number of players, signed so few new FAs, and still had so little cap space.

Foxtrol wrote: »

Turnover is one thing but aside from teams that are tanking and purposefully eating dead cap, I can't really remember a team that has lost that number of players, signed so few new FAs, and still had so little cap space.

Could the New England Patriots do the unthinkable and tank?
With Tom Brady gone, the Pats find themselves at a crossroads. Would they consider tanking in the hope of finding their next franchise quarterback?

.........Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence ............

...........They have $26m worth of dead money on the books, meaning they’re paying players who won’t actually suit up for them, with $13.5m of that going towards Brady.

This doesn’t necessarily mean that the Patriots will be sellers when the NFL season resumes. The most likely scenario could be that Belichick sits back and sees what he has with Stidham and the rest of his roster. ..................
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/27/could-the-new-england-patriots-do-the-unthinkable-and-tank

We've been told many times over the years by the media that it's the end of the dynasty. For most of the last twenty years the GOAT head coach has been underestimated.
I said to you all last season that I felt that Brady's replacement was Jarrett Stidham. It's looking increasingly likely that he'll get his shot. It's not until he gets his shot that we'll really know what we've got but I'm very hopeful.
Imo this is a very deep draft class so we have a good chance to improve greatly with twelve picks.
Lots of players in positions we need to fill deep in this draft like at tight end where there's a host of talent, edge rusher is another deep spot in this draft as is wide receiver.

ELM327 wrote: »

He won double digit games with Cassel.

Which counts for sweet fa. If that's the expectation for the season ahead we may as well not even play. We either aim to win or what's the point.
And we can't reasonably expect to win without a qb. There's been what, 2 teams in the past 20 years that have won the superbowl without a star qb and both had absolutely loaded defences. And both were about 20 years ago when rules were very different.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Which counts for sweet fa. If that's the expectation for the season ahead we may as well not even play. We either aim to win or what's the point.
And we can't reasonably expect to win without a qb. There's been what, 2 teams in the past 20 years that have won the superbowl without a star qb and both had absolutely loaded defences. And both were about 20 years ago when rules were very different.

We were unlucky to miss the playoffs that year,we could have won it.


Of course the aim is always to win every game, win it all, but it doesnt happen every year. This year I think while the hope is for another ring, the expectation may have to be tempered. I think winning the division this year would be a brilliant result.

eagle eye wrote: »

The Eagles beat us with a subpar qb. the Broncos and the Ravens also won in the last ten years without a decent qb.

And why are you talking about quarterbacks. You haven't seen Stidham start yet or if he will be the starter in week 1.

Well you obviously didn't hear the news ee, we've lost our qb. Surely you're aware of the significance of that. Is that okay with you to discuss?

Also Foles threw for nearly 400 yards that game and still could easily have lost.

What are your expectations of Stidham?

ELM327 wrote: »

We were unlucky to miss the playoffs that year,we could have won it.


Of course the aim is always to win every game, win it all, but it doesnt happen every year. This year I think while the hope is for another ring, the expectation may have to be tempered. I think winning the division this year would be a brilliant result.

Totally agree on the second part, but when games come down to the key moments we'll at the other team's mercy if we don't have someone that can deliver. QB has to be the priority.
We don't even have a decent receiving corps atm, if Stidham is the answer we at least need to give him options.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote:

What are your expectations of Stidham?

I like him a lot. Liked him at Auburn and liked what I seen in preseason last year.
I'm very hopeful. I've stated that on more than one occasion in this thread over the past eight months. You really don't know how somebody will be as a starter until they actually do start but I'm confident that he'll be clutch if be he be is good enough.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote:

Totally agree on the second part, but when games come down to the key moments we'll at the other team's mercy if we don't have someone that can deliver. QB has to be the priority. We don't even have a decent receiving corps atm, if Stidham is the answer we at least need to give him options.

I agree and with twelve picks we have the opportunity.
I've no idea what BB will decide is the first round priority but I think there is great depth in the areas that are most important to us.

Just having a moment of reality. Tom Brady is the greatest of all time and I love the man but if we meet the Bucs he is the enemy in my eyes, no two ways about it for me.

munstermagic11 wrote: »

I'll follow how Brady does in Tampa, but it's all about the Pats.

I follow the patriots

New uniforms unveiled today.

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't like the shoulder thing.

Likewise. The way it just ends abruptly puts me off, and it's too big.

Don't like the navy pants, would prefer silver to tie in with the helmet (or white if they changed the helmet to white too).

I thought the previous uniform was beautiful so was always going to be disappointed.

me89 wrote: »

Gronk to the Buccs now looking likely

OJ Howard for Gronk?

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Not bad getting a 4th round pick for basically nothing.

Seems like a pretty fair trade. Most 4th rounds turn out to be nothing, whereas Bucs get the GOAT TE off a year of recuperation. 4th is better than nothing but if Gronk plays well it'll be a steal.