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Deep Retrofit Pilot Programme

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  • 03-07-2018 4:16pm
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    S'
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    Has anyone here applied for the Deep Retrofit Pilot Programme for 2018?

    I am finding it very difficult to get on the scheme.
    Many of the contractors are based in the midlands and east of the country.

    I've contacted a number of companies from the SEAI website but they don't seem to do work in the West (based in Mayo).
    https://www.seai.ie/grants/home-grants/deep-retrofit-programme/

    11.2kWp E/W split arra. Mayo



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    louiseseai
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    Hi S,

    Some of the homes across the applications in the least 12 months have included homes in Mayo and other areas in the North West so it is worth contacting them all.

    The market is still building to respond to the demand from homeowners and we are seeing it build so hopefully there is a service provider on the list who will be able to help you.


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    S'
    Registered Users Posts: 256 ✭✭S'


    louiseseai wrote: »
    Hi S,

    Some of the homes across the applications in the least 12 months have included homes in Mayo and other areas in the North West so it is worth contacting them all.

    The market is still building to respond to the demand from homeowners and we are seeing it build so hopefully there is a service provider on the list who will be able to help you.

    Thanks for your reply Louise.

    A number of contractors have come back to me. They are not taking on any new applications for 2018.
    Do you know when applications for 2019 start?

    11.2kWp E/W split arra. Mayo



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    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mod Note: @louiseseai In the interests of full disclosure, can you confirm if you are a staff member of SEAI?


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    louiseseai
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭louiseseai


    Hi All - yes I work for SEAI.


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    louiseseai
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭louiseseai


    @S The deadline for applications for receipt of applications for 2018 is 27th of July. We do accept and approve applications all year round but 2019 project works can't commence until January 2019.


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    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    louiseseai wrote: »
    @S The deadline for applications for receipt of applications for 2018 is 27th of July. We do accept and approve applications all year round but 2019 project works can't commence until January 2019.

    Hi. Is this scheme available from January in Donegal?


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    alejandro1977
    Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭alejandro1977


    does anyone know if Oil Boilers can be retained (or upgraded rather) if solar water and wood stoves are being added? What about mains gas?


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    BryanF
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    alejandro1977 wrote: »
    does anyone know if Oil Boilers can be retained (or upgraded rather) if solar water and wood stoves are being added? What about mains gas?

    No
    Heat pumps are the policy preferred


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    alejandro1977
    Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭alejandro1977


    thanks - generally speaking, can external insulation + new doors/windows (properly fitted) satisfy the air change targets? I would expect to use a DCV system - presumably this is acceptable rather than MHRV- are these taped over for the test or how does it work?

    [justify]·        [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Dwellings for which funding is provided must achieve an air permeability of 5m3/h/m2@50 pa or lower;[/font][/justify]
    [justify]·     [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Energy monitoring post-works, i.e. metering. Provision of bills will not be sufficient. Metering of the electricity consumption of the house as a whole and metering of the heat pump consumption, where a heat pump has been installed;[/font][/justify]
    ·         [font=Calibri, sans-serif]SEAI also require that mechanical ventilation systems are used to provide adequate and controllable ventilation in order to ensure good indoor air quality.[/font]


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    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,555 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    alejandro1977 wrote: »
    thanks - generally speaking, can external insulation + new doors/windows (properly fitted) satisfy the air change targets? I would expect to use a DCV system - presumably this is acceptable rather than MHRV- are these taped over for the test or how does it work?

    It depends on what the leaks are and where they are. It's very possible that proper taping of doors and windows would get you below 5 in conjunction with external wall insulation but it's not a given.

    It would need to be lower than 3 at least to warrant MVHR.

    As far as I know, ducting is covered during the airtightness test. They're looking for 'uncontrolled' air leakage.


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    Mistymeg
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    gooner99 wrote: »
    Hi. Is this scheme available from January in Donegal?

    I've also been looking into this and am based in donegal. Are there any contractors taking on Donegal applications?


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    RoadRunner2000
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    Hello S,

    I am investigating this at the moment. I am also very interested in the grant and want to apply for 2019 funding. The application requires 5 houses in the area.

    Also, I am having the same problem trying to find a contractor. Let me know if you get any information and I will do the same!

    Thanks,

    T


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    gooner99
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    Seems to be limited. I had no luck finding anything so far in Donegal. Be interested to hear what plans are for expanding it in 2019.


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    RoadRunner2000
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭RoadRunner2000


    Lousia,

    Can you assist in locating contractors in Galway who are able to do Deep Retrofit?

    Thank you,

    T


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    Jaymacc
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭Jaymacc


    Also interested in air to water deep retrofit. Anyone in Galway gone ahead with this? Would be keen to hear how if went and what the heat / bills are like post works. For those looking at Deep Retrofit in Donegal etc, Kingspan are doing them nationally but will only use their own products.


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    Johnnyq79
    Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭Johnnyq79


    Anybody know, if you were to be building an extension also, could you get this grant too?


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    gooner99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭gooner99


    Johnnyq79 wrote: »
    Anybody know, if you were to be building an extension also, could you get this grant too?

    I could be wrong, but I think it only covers the existing dwelling. You probably have to cover the extension yourself. Others may clarify.


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    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Has anyone on here been through this scheme? It would be interesting to hear their experiences, costs and how much they got back, before and after, etc


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    booooonzo
    Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭booooonzo


    Did you watch eco eye on RTE the other day?

    had 2 couples going through the scheme on it. was interesting

    40/50k seems to be a more realistic price for detached homes. So 80/100k total for the deep retro fit works.
    you would then want other works done I would imagine if you have floors up etc.. so it's not the cheapest thing to go through.

    I am waiting on a price for our own house this week but don't expect it to be cheap. i'll let you know


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    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Will take a look back at that rte player. Thanks


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    Mistymeg
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Mistymeg


    jay0109 wrote: »
    Will take a look back at that rte player. Thanks

    I’m donegal based and eventually managed to get in touch with a contractor through Kingspan. He tells me it will be this time next year before he gets to my house due to the amount he has on his list and also the time it takes with administration. He advised it’s a slow process. Im going to be carrying out some small renovations and would think cost of new windows will be included to avail of the grant. For example changing standard kitchen windows to large 3.5m sliding. We will see.

    The issue that concerns me slightly is that there is only one contractor in donegal doing this (that I know of) so will that mean less competitive costings?

    I got my ber rating yesterday E2..E for Eskimo 🀣 I watched eco eye on player last night. It was good, gave good insight into the process so worth watching.


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    WhestCork2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭WhestCork2018


    Does anyone know of a contractor based in Cork that is doing the Deep Retrofit scheme, We are doing a full renovation and this programme is really peaking our interest at the moment because we are doing everything, i.e external insulation, new roof, windows, heating system, plumbing, electricals, but we too are finding it very hard to find information on what contractors do it and I am not sure if the SEAI website is updated with current contractors.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated?

    If we are going spending that much money we figure we may aswell try it!


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    WhestCork2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭WhestCork2018


    Has anyone had any luck with this? any of the contractors that I have contacted seem to be "Full to capacity" or not taking on any more projects at the moment?

    Has anyone on here actually completed the scheme?

    Thanks


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    Calibos
    Registered Users Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭Calibos


    booooonzo wrote: »
    Did you watch eco eye on RTE the other day?

    had 2 couples going through the scheme on it. was interesting

    40/50k seems to be a more realistic price for detached homes. So 80/100k total for the deep retro fit works.
    you would then want other works done I would imagine if you have floors up etc.. so it's not the cheapest thing to go through.

    I am waiting on a price for our own house this week but don't expect it to be cheap. i'll let you know

    Jaysus.

    Hope the next owners of these houses or the owners grandkids appreciate the spend that'll never pay back in the owners lifetime!


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    #26
    booooonzo
    Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭booooonzo


    just got mine back 140k +

    ridiculous.

    that involves EWI/Tripple glazing/new doors. air 2 water pump/ UFH / solar


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    Evd-Burner
    Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭Evd-Burner


    booooonzo wrote: »
    just got mine back 140k +

    ridiculous.

    that involves EWI/Tripple glazing/new doors. air 2 water pump/ UFH / solar

    How big is your house and where are you based in the country?

    What is EWI?


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    s7ryf3925pivug
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    EWI is external wall insulation


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    booooonzo
    Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭booooonzo


    Evd-Burner wrote: »
    How big is your house and where are you based in the country?

    What is EWI?

    yip, external wall insulation
    based in NorthWest
    house is 220sqM 2 story detached.

    not small but not massive either.
    the more i think about it the crazier the quote seems. I would be better buy a ruin and start with that.


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    Buddy83
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭Buddy83


    booooonzo wrote: »
    yip, external wall insulation
    based in NorthWest
    house is 220sqM 2 story detached.

    not small but not massive either.
    the more i think about it the crazier the quote seems. I would be better buy a ruin and start with that.

    Wowza, thats a crazy quote, is there any room for bringing the cost down, will they allow if applicable, pumping the walls instead of EWI or foregoing the UFH all together?


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    Lumen
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    Construction is expensive.


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