What to stock up on.. Brexit

gozunda · 24-01-2019 6:51pm

Beatrice Sour Queue wrote: »

A few hundred for a few tins is 'comedy panic'.

Could probably pick this lot (This Brexit Box) up from a trip to a couple of shops and still have change of a 50note.

https://www.emergencyfoodstorage.co.uk/products/brexit-box

Tins
Macaroni Cheese - 1 Tins (10 Servings)
Pasta Bolognaise - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Chicken Tikka - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Chicken Fajita - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Beef And Potato Stew - 1 Tin (6 Servings)
Sweet And Sour Chicken - 1 Tin (8 Servings)
Diced Chicken - 1 tin (24 portions)
Minced Beef - 1 tin (24 portions)

Packets
Pasta Bolognaise - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Tikka - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Fajita - 1 (1 Serving)
Beef And Potato Stew - 1 (1 Serving)
Sweet And Sour Chicken - 1 (1 Serving)
Salmon Broccoli Pasta - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Tikka - 1 (1 Serving)
Chilli Con Carne - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Chipotle Chilli - 1 (1 Serving)
Chicken Fried Rice - 1 (1 Serving)
Macaroni Cheese - 1 (1 Serving)
Vegetable Fried Rice - 1 (1 Serving)

Water Filter
Aquamira Green Line water basics Bottle Filter

Fire Starter
200ml Fire Dragon Gel

Fail - start again.

You forgot the single most essential item!

There's no bleedin Tin Opener ya muppet !

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-01-2019 7:47pm

Esel wrote: »

How big are those tins? :eek:

Good point, but how much 'Macroo Cheese' can one eat, even in desperate times. Then there's storage, if the fridge lights go out on the brexitkingdom would be better off getting them in glass jars for unchilled (re)preservation.

A job lot of flahavans jumbo organic oats is yer only man in such times.

YFlyer · 24-01-2019 7:50pm

Coleman English Mustard.

jmayo · 24-01-2019 8:19pm

mikeecho wrote: »

Colman's mustard, Lee and peering wousyershire sauce, and a few other bits.

Is there anything that I should get pre hard exit.. should it happen.

You do know that Unilever that Anglo Dutch giant were closing the Norwich Colmans plant anyway this year.

mikemac2 wrote: »

Bovril

Oh wait I won’t because it’s rank ! The Brits can keep it

And Unilever were moving production of the mustard to where they make the Bovril.
Of course it could now be moving to Eindhoven or Maastricht.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Places like Aldi and Lidl and continental ones like Spar would source locally as well as on the continent so probably not as affected as Dunnes and Supervalu and the smaller Irish (lots from Musgraves). But all have been diversifying like mad this last year.

Tesco and Marks and Spencers ? *gets popcorn*

Supervalu as well as Centra are Musgraves from Cork.

M&S are in serious trouble and I could see them closing their Irish operations altogether.
The vast vast majority of the foodstuffs they sell is UK sourced and/or distributed.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

There are Ferries direct to France from Dublin now.

And from Cork to Spain.
...

You are pulling the pee now.
You do remember what happened to the ship that was meant to do the Dublin France run last year ???
That route is aimed at holiday makers more than pure freight.

And the Cork Santander route is twice a week.

Are you seriously saying these are going to make up for the UK landbridge ?

sugarman wrote: »

5 pages in and not single mention of Cadbury ��

It's muck now anyways.
A couple of things are produced here with load more in Eastern Europe.

And they can stick their mondolez crackers wrapped in chocolate where the sun don't shine.

YFlyer wrote: »

Coleman English Mustard.

Once Norwich shuts it could be made anywhere Unilever chooses.

I know how to really start a panic.

Our brewing industry sources some of their raw materials from outside Ireland.
Guinness brewed in Dublin is canned in Belfast.
Baileys is made near Belfast.
They both are exported out of Dublin.

fxotoole · 24-01-2019 8:24pm

Magners “Irish” Cider

Buford T. Justice XIX · 24-01-2019 8:25pm

jmayo wrote: »

You do know that Unilever that Anglo Dutch giant were closing the Norwich Colmans plant anyway this year.

And Unilever were moving production of the mustard to where they make the Bovril.
Of course it could now be moving to Eindhoven or Maastricht.

Supervalu as well as Centra are Musgraves from Cork.

M&S are in serious trouble and I could see them closing their Irish operations altogether.
The vast vast majority of the foodstuffs they sell is UK sourced and/or distributed.

You are pulling the pee now.
You do remember what happened to the ship that was meant to do the Dublin France run last year ???
That route is aimed at holiday makers more than pure freight.

And the Cork Santander route is twice a week.

Are you seriously saying these are going to make up for the UK landbridge ?

It's muck now anyways.
A couple of things are produced here with load more in Eastern Europe.

And they can stick their mondolez crackers wrapped in chocolate where the sun don't shine.

Once Norwich shuts it could be made anywhere Unilever chooses.

I know how to really start a panic.

Our brewing industry sources some of their raw materials from outside Ireland.
Guinness brewed in Dublin is canned in Belfast.
Baileys is made near Belfast.
They both are exported out of Dublin.

With a large supply of Southern milk. So the milk is transported across the border, processed into Baileys and transported south for distribution.

So it crosses the border twice, potentially attracting duties twice:eek:

fxotoole · 24-01-2019 8:28pm

RMAOK wrote: »

Irish passports - they could become more valuable after brexit...

They’re pretty valuable pre-Brexit to be fair!!!

fxotoole · 24-01-2019 8:35pm

Esel wrote: »

I hate hard boarders.

I hate hard hoarders

Twenty Grand · 24-01-2019 8:56pm

fxotoole wrote: »

I hate hard hoarders

I hate hard horners.

CalamariFritti · 24-01-2019 9:05pm

Hard Brexit doesnt mean we cant get things from Britain anymore. Its just tariffs not a blockade. Some things will simply become more expensive.

gozunda · 24-01-2019 9:05pm

Twenty Grand wrote: »

I hate hard horners.

Haters going to hate ...

Junkyard Tom · 24-01-2019 9:20pm

Tinned food is cheap, dried pasta is cheap, both can last for months, if not years.

Capt'n Midnight · 24-01-2019 9:21pm

jmayo wrote: »

Baileys is made near Belfast.

Baileys crosses the border something like seven times during production.

Anything made by LacPatric
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/spilt-milk-how-brexit-threatens-baileys-and-dubliner-cheese-1.3242752

LacPatrick is the result of a merger between two of the oldest milk co-ops in Ireland: Town of Monaghan, founded in 1901, and Ballyrashane, on the Antrim coast, founded in 1898.

Diageo confirms there are about 5,000 Border crossings a year by trucks in the direct Baileys supply chain, moving raw milk, cream, whiskey, bottles and corrugated paper.

Esel · 24-01-2019 9:32pm

AFAIK all big brand beers produced here are bottled in NI.

scotchy · 25-01-2019 12:39am

Capt'n Midnight · 25-01-2019 12:53am

Hubris.

Marcusm · 25-01-2019 12:59am

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

With a large supply of Southern milk. So the milk is transported across the border, processed into Baileys and transported south for distribution.

So it crosses the border twice, potentially attracting duties twice:eek:

Inward processing relief! No duties.

c.p.w.g.w · 25-01-2019 1:01am

Rice, Pasta, Beans, Lentils, Tinned Tomatoes & chocolate.

Meat should be fine, plenty of butchers who source locally, milk should be fine too

gammygils · 25-01-2019 1:15am

Cans of Harp..... If I can get any :rolleyes:

The Tetrarch · 25-01-2019 1:24am

M & S Y

-fronts

Dakotabigone · 25-01-2019 1:27am

gammygils wrote: »

Cans of Harp..... If I can get any :rolleyes:

Daybreak stocks them.

jmreire · 25-01-2019 2:32am

mikeecho wrote: »

So , if brexit and a hard boarder become a reality, what products will be in short supply.

It's fine to say that xyz are made in Ireland, but some of their ingredients may be UK sourced.

I'll stockpile 200l diesel, 80l petrol, some Heinz products, sauce and cans.. essentials like YR sauce and Colman's mustard, Lee and peering wousyershire sauce, and a few other bits.

Is there anything that I should get pre hard exit.. should it happen.

Whatever about the diesel, forget about the petrol.....it's too dangerous as it's so flammable. The only petrol I would store is a few litres for the lawnmower in an approved jerrycan ., and I keep that completely separate from everything else in the shed, locked up in its own metal box.

mikeecho · 25-01-2019 8:19am

No-deal Brexit could lead to food shortages and higher prices, Central Bank warns (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/no-deal-brexit-could-lead-to-food-shortages-and-higher-prices-central-bank-warns-1.3769914

mikeecho · 25-01-2019 8:49am

OmegaGene wrote: »

The press can say anything about Brexit and add the word could in front and you’re covered really, most of it is click bait

But not all.

iguana · 25-01-2019 2:02pm

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Hard Brexit doesnt mean we cant get things from Britain anymore. Its just tariffs not a blockade. Some things will simply become more expensive.

Nobody thinks we'll never get British items again. We do however know that there will be a period of adjustment which has the potential to be protracted and complicated. Everything will eventually iron out, but while it does there will most likely be shortages of certain items. Why would I leave my kid without the types of foodstuffs he eats daily because I couldn't be bothered to think it through and stock up while I can? Why would I leave myself with the headache of trying to work out substitute meals from a potentially limited supply of food? Why would I put myself in the position of explaining to an upset 6 year old that we can't eat fruit or do our normal baking, because even though I knew full well that we were likely to experience shortages of foods that I could safely and easily stock up on, that I couldn't be arsed? And fück it, why would I want to spend the summer paying extra for food I can buy for it's normal price now? I didn't cause this shítstorm and I'm not going to be any more put out by it than I have to.

If you have storage space and can afford it, there is no major drawback to over buying certain, long life foods that you are guaranteed to eat eventually. Supply is safe, nobody gets put out or does without because extra can still be ordered and supplied. You won't ignite panic buying at this point. You don't buy stuff you'd never normally eat because if we experience no real shortages, or everything is relatively normal again by mid-April, you want to be able to happily eat through your store over time. Don't buy bags of dried lentils and tins of spaghetti hoops if you'd never intentionally eat them, it's never going to get that desperate. And if everything is fine you can laugh at yourself for being a crazy prepper while you subject your family to another pineapple cake made with your tinned pineapple and extra bags of flour.

mad muffin · 25-01-2019 2:13pm

mikeecho wrote: »

No-deal Brexit could lead to food shortages and higher prices, Central Bank warns (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/no-deal-brexit-could-lead-to-food-shortages-and-higher-prices-central-bank-warns-1.3769914

GIVE THE UK ALL THEY WANT OR WE ARE ALL FÜCKED!!!!!

EdgeCase · 25-01-2019 2:18pm

I'd say most things will be available but just not necessarily the familiar UK brands. So if you want to tide yourself over on things like your favourite cooking sauces and other things with very long shelf life, you could probably stock up on those.

A lot of products are either made on the continent and just rebadged for what was "UK & Ireland" markets. So all your usual household products will be fine and the vast majority of your staple items.

The issue would be around UK specific brand like say particular curry or pasta sauces.

Supermarkets will just replace other UK stock for continental stock as close to like for like as they can.
So you'll probably see ranges closer to say Benelux and France than the UK.

I'd expect a few bumps as supply chains reorganise though. But within a few weeks / months if will smooth out.

Also some obscure UK products may simply be more expensive rather than gone. So they'll just go up in price and then maybe disappear if they're replaced by an Irish or other EU equivalent.

At the end of the day, the UK is the one cutting itself off from the entire EU and EEA markets along with all of their associated free trade agreements which come as part of that package.

Ireland will have more difficult access to / from the UK but we retain all of the rest of our access to what is probably the world's most advanced consumer market.

For us it's an adjustment. For them it's a profound and difficult change.

I'm still of the opinion that Ireland's small, nimble and adaptable and we've some great local retailers who will get this sorted and won't be depending on instruction from mother England.

Our size is an advantage as the scale of what needs to be done logistically is much less daunting than trying to deal with 67m people's demands without any trade deals at all.

jmayo · 25-01-2019 3:00pm

EdgeCase wrote: »

I'd say most things will be available but just not necessarily the familiar UK brands. So if you want to tide yourself over on things like your favourite cooking sauces and other things with very long shelf life, you could probably stock up on those.

A lot of products are either made on the continent and just rebadged for what was "UK & Ireland" markets. So all your usual household products will be fine and the vast majority of your staple items.

The issue would be around UK specific brand like say particular curry or pasta sauces.

Supermarkets will just replace other UK stock for continental stock as close to like for like as they can.
So you'll probably see ranges closer to say Benelux and France than the UK.

I'd expect a few bumps as supply chains reorganise though. But within a few weeks / months if will smooth out.

Also some obscure UK products may simply be more expensive rather than gone. So they'll just go up in price and then maybe disappear if they're replaced by an Irish or other EU equivalent.

At the end of the day, the UK is the one cutting itself off from the entire EU and EEA markets along with all of their associated free trade agreements which come as part of that package.

Ireland will have more difficult access to / from the UK but we retain all of the rest of our access to what is probably the world's most advanced consumer market.

For us it's an adjustment. For them it's a profound and difficult change.

I'm still of the opinion that Ireland's small, nimble and adaptable and we've some great local retailers who will get this sorted and won't be depending on instruction from mother England.

Our size is an advantage as the scale of what needs to be done logistically is much less daunting than trying to deal with 67m people's demands without any trade deals at all.

We will take a hit on costs.

Both UK owned and even non UK foreign owned chains here would have supply chains going through UK.
Ireland is often just seen as branch of UK distribution network.

That could have to change and goods manufactured in EU or coming through European ports such as Rotherdam may have to now come to us direct depending on what happens re UK and possible tarrifs, etc.
That will have cost and even time implications.

Order a computer or electronic device today from a lot of retailers or distributors and it is sourced out of a UK warehouse and will be shipped overnight to Dublin.
You will not get overnight shipping from Netherlands, Germany, etc.
And you will not have to pay for the shipment from Netherlands rather than Bolton.

And that also applies to likes of online Irish companies selling electronics.

Your great local Irish retailer is at the end of a supply chain and sources from nearest distributor which invariably is in the UK or comes through the UK.

You have similar issues with things like car parts, etc.
It is right across the board.

And then there is the access to our biggest export market for real Irish produce, produced by Irish owned indigenous companies.

Cost will invariably be affected and who will ultimately have to pay for those increased costs, the end user.

So you may take some comfort that we will not be as badly affected as the Brits, but I am not looking forward to increased costs for goods.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-01-2019 3:25pm

Agree with the above, most stuff comes through the UK, maybe some further investment should be made in warehousing.
Also could be worth dropping Irish for Franco-German or even Spanish language in schools, which would be of far more practical use.
Then upscaling the ferries even more, if it's hardexit. Which also requires border control staff at source (Rotterdam etc), not just at arrival.

The scale is warehousing required could be significant, LIDL opened one in Newbridge (x3 the size of Aviva) which only serves Leinster area.
Even then, (perhaps someone from there can confirm) - if the majority comes straight from Euroland to it, or via the Brexitkingdom across the Irish Sea?

jmayo · 25-01-2019 4:16pm

Other thing that will affect a lot of people, and something that we can't just go with a continental equivalent as mooted by some posters, are books and magazines.

Anyone here that currently gets a British produced specialist magazine is in for a price hike.

Anyone that buys Top Gear, Classic Tractor, Country Life, The Field, Autosport, Motorsport, F1 Racing, FHM, Loaded, Hello, Vogue, Woman's own, FourFourTwo, etc, etc are in for a price hike most likely.

Hell our major distributor is well known for shafting Irish people with hikes due to currency fluctuations.
Funnily they never pass on the cuts due to currency fluctuations. :rolleyes:

jmayo · 25-01-2019 4:47pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

People still buy those magazines ? I haven’t bought one in years I think the internet took over for me

Yeah that's why newsagents, petrol stations, supermarkets have shelves for them.
Shure what else could they use the space for.:rolleyes:

Also with some magazines you only get online content if you take out annual subscription.
Easier to just pick an issue you are interested in.

Also some of us don't want to spend every waking moment lookiing at a screen.

Speaking of which, I'm out.

25-01-2019 4:53pm

When the Euro came in first, the echange to the punt was €1.27

Businesses started using this as an excuse to round up their prices to €1.50

The first example I saw of this was the Irish Independent newspaper, which was £1 IRL, then it wen to €1.30, then €1.50 in a short space of time.

I wonder will businesses use Brexit as an excuse for rounding up their prices?

MarkY91 · 25-01-2019 6:22pm

Deleted User wrote: »

When the Euro came in first, the echange to the punt was €1.27

Businesses started using this as an excuse to round up their prices to €1.50

The first example I saw of this was the Irish Independent newspaper, which was £1 IRL, then it wen to €1.30, then €1.50 in a short space of time.

I wonder will businesses use Brexit as an excuse for rounding up their prices?

100%

they use any excuse to scam customers.

Dakotabigone · 25-01-2019 7:09pm

Benson and hedges went from £3.23 to €5 at the time of currency change over.

freshpopcorn · 25-01-2019 7:28pm

A few items in the cleaning isles/toilet rolls went out of stock in my local Tesco and they are starting to repeal in new packaging!

scotchy · 26-01-2019 10:48am

Linda is not taking any chances.

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sophiexyz · 26-01-2019 11:01am

Food and health wise brexit could be great for Ireland, less junk food, ready meals imported from UK, so we will be forced to go back to making our own dinners, good simple meat and 2 veg, health benefits and weight loss will be seen within weeks

Whirl_wolle · 26-01-2019 11:11am

I'm hoping Theresa May gets the boot and the UK is given the chance of a second referendum on this whole Brexit. Turkeys voting for Christmas was what the first referendum was about.

sophiexyz · 26-01-2019 11:15am

How to ensure a Brexit.
1, a few ISIS attacks
2, the UK population will demand a stop to immigration, will be told its a no go as a eu member
3, another ISIS truck of peace
4, Brexit vote even larger than first time

Wanderer78 · 26-01-2019 11:18am

sophiexyz wrote:

How to ensure a Brexit. 1, a few ISIS attacks 2, the UK population will demand a stop to immigration, will be told its a no go as a eu member 3, another ISIS truck of peace 4, Brexit vote even larger than first time

If there is another vote, I'd expect a vote to stay, I'd imagine many British people are sick of it now, and somewhat worried about an exit

mr_cochise · 26-01-2019 11:21am

Curly Wurlys

sophiexyz · 26-01-2019 11:56am

AFAIK all the pet food is made in the UK, should get a bit in just incase things go bad, other wise will be feeding the cats/dogs expensive human grade meat, you pet owners know this will happen, those who don't have pets won't understand.

Mint Sauce · 26-01-2019 12:35pm

Whirl_wolle wrote: »

I'm hoping Theresa May gets the boot and the UK is given the chance of a second referendum on this whole Brexit. Turkeys voting for Christmas was what the first referendum was about.

May is not going anywhere soon. She has survived a no confidence vote, as has her party, more so down to the leader of the oposition being a worse opition.

She will only go if she steps down or calls a general election. Only problem with that is, those lined up to take her place ARE pro leave, May isn't, she is only following the will of the people, as per the referendum.

As for stocking up on stuff, if I was, it would be on UK/GB produced items, which is probably half the stuff I use.

Twenty Grand · 26-01-2019 12:38pm

There's not even 10 weeks to Brexit. Not a hope of a second referendum now.

Unless there's an 11th hour deal, they're crashing out.

Mint Sauce · 26-01-2019 12:49pm

Twenty Grand wrote: »

There's not even 10 weeks to Brexit. Not a hope of a second referendum now.

Unless there's an 11th hour deal, they're crashing out.

Or unless May finally realises its not worth all the sh!t that could happen, and revokes Article 50.

Unfortunetly, I think she is too stuborn to to that.

Whirl_wolle · 26-01-2019 1:01pm

Mint Sauce wrote: »

May is not going anywhere soon. She has survived a no confidence vote, as has her party, more so down to the leader of the oposition being a worse opition.

She will only go if she steps down or calls a general election. Only problem with that is, those lined up to take her place ARE pro leave, May isn't, she is only following the will of the people, as per the referendum.

As for stocking up on stuff, if I was, it would be on UK/GB produced items, which is probably half the stuff I use.

The referendum of Brexit was very vague. Did people who voted to leave understand what the consequences were going to be. I don't have an issue with May. I can't see a second referendum happening under May.

God, we're going to be fu*ked. It will lead to a recession here Not to mention the possibility of a hard border up north.

Whirl_wolle · 26-01-2019 1:09pm

I wonder what is peoples feelings in the UK about Brexit now? Do many people still want to leave or stay in the EU? Would there be an appetite for a second referendum?

Twenty Grand · 26-01-2019 1:36pm

Whirl_wolle wrote: »

The referendum of Brexit was very vague. Did people who voted to leave understand what the consequences were going to be. I don't have an issue with May. I can't see a second referendum happening under May.

God, we're going to be fu*ked. It will lead to a recession here Not to mention the possibility of a hard border up north.

People were told it was going to be bad. Expert after expert told them it was a stupid idea but Nigel "people are sick of listening to experts" Farage told them a pack of lies.

They chose to believe him.
They voted leave.

We're all going to suffer for it now.

Twenty Grand · 26-01-2019 1:39pm

Also, if anyone is interested, herea a link to a FB page recording the number of jobs lost asa
direct result of Brexit
It's over 200k so far and they haven't even left yet. Bear in mind this is only job losses that are reported in the media.

www.facebook.com/BrexitWrecksIt/

Their unemployment is still a record low though.

Mint Sauce · 26-01-2019 1:39pm

Whirl_wolle wrote: »

The referendum of Brexit was very vague. Did people who voted to leave understand what the consequences were going to be. I don't have an issue with May. I can't see a second referendum happening under May.

God, we're going to be fu*ked. It will lead to a recession here Not to mention the possibility of a hard border up north.

I would say a majority didn't. The sell was tighter immigration control, more control on trade, and of course the lie about the NHS. Leave glamourised the whole thing, not expecting it to go through, and then ran. So many implications did not seem to be considered at all.

There was no plan, with Cameron nearly using it as a test of his leadership. NI I doubt bearly got a thought in the whole thing.

Unfortunetly now, sharing a land border, it will cause many issues on us, which the UK should be doing their damnest to avoid. The CTA could also be affected, the break up of the GFA, and a return to border controls.

In addition to stocking up, anyone with or entittled to Dual Citizenship, I would be renewing both their Passports, if they have not done so already. Whilst free travel and work between our two countries is secure due to the CTA to UK and Ireland residents, you would wonder how long it might stay.

What to stock up on.. Brexit

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