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EagererBeaver · 21-01-2019 10:17am

Mellor wrote: »

Didnt Pettis drop Tony at one point?

Edit:
Yup. Stats have a knockdown for Pettis in rd2

I remember an absolute bloodbath (lol it's Pettis) and a stoppage after an injury.

Think he had Tony's repaired knee looking a bit shaky as well.

Mellor · 21-01-2019 10:25am

Just seen Khabib is in Australia. He was teaching a seminar today. Cost the attend...$2,500 lololololol that's f'ing madness. The lunatics that paid that or 1hour.

tommyboy26 · 21-01-2019 10:45am

EagererBeaver wrote: »

I don't remember that fight being overly one sided. Pettis put in a more than decent shift.

i must rewatch that fight again

Mellor wrote: »

Just seen Khabib is in Australia. He was teaching a seminar today. Cost the attend...$2,500 lololololol that's f'ing madness. The lunatics that paid that or 1hour.

for a wrestling or mma seminar?

but surely the man who says it is not about the money isnt charging that much:rolleyes:

JJayoo · 21-01-2019 11:14am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

i must rewatch that fight again

for a wrestling or mma seminar?

but surely the man who says it is not about the money isnt charging that much:rolleyes:

Or maybe it wasn't about the money until he spent time in Africa and then realised it's all about the money.

Hopefully he's putting the cash to good use.

ASOT · 21-01-2019 11:19am

He's a prizefighter, it was always about the money. That goes for everyone in the game

Mellor · 21-01-2019 12:14pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

for a wrestling or mma seminar?

but surely the man who says it is not about the money isnt charging that much:rolleyes:

MMA I'd guess. Or wrestling for MMA. I don't he'd get away with charging that for pure wrestling.

Zero-Cool · 21-01-2019 1:18pm

Ok guys, you greb his ankle and you take him down and you smesh smesh smesh until bell. Do dis every round until you win. I telling you guys, iss easy. Ok gimme money.

dashoonage · 21-01-2019 1:28pm

come here...there are lads where who would pay 5000 for 10 minutes with mcgregor.

Mellor · 21-01-2019 1:46pm

dashoonage wrote: »

come here...there are lads where who would pay 5000 for 10 minutes with mcgregor.

There probably are. And if he charged that for a seminar he'd be slated for it.

I feel like there has to be more to it tbh.

tommyboy26 · 21-01-2019 8:23pm

the noise when cowboy hits him with the kick.......dam

https://twitter.com/streetfitebanch/status/1087040073172946947

ASOT · 22-01-2019 8:07pm

Cejudo v John Cena in the works.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs8Vq04hC0v/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=rggi5idrdwa4

Autecher · 22-01-2019 9:11pm

ASOT wrote: »

Cejudo v John Cena in the works.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs8Vq04hC0v/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=rggi5idrdwa4

How is Cejudo going to hit someone he can't see?

Ultimate Seduction · 22-01-2019 9:13pm

Helwanis social media feed is embarrassing. How is this guy the worlds top mma journalist.

ricero · 22-01-2019 9:32pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Helwanis social media feed is embarrassing. How is this guy the worlds top mma journalist.

Gone off Helwani in the past year or so because of his bias and inflamed ego. I thought him revealing the Brock news was quite ****ty and was him filling his own ego.

Brett Okomoto for me is one of the top mma journalists and usually first for breaking news and announced fights.

Ultimate Seduction · 22-01-2019 9:44pm

ricero wrote: »

Gone off Helwani in the past year or so because of his bias and inflamed ego. I thought him revealing the Brock news was quite ****ty and was him filling his own ego.

Brett Okomoto for me is one of the top mma journalists and usually first for breaking news and announced fights.

Spot on there with Okomoto. Helwani has no interest in mma in my opinion, he just wants to invent drama an love stories now.

ASOT · 22-01-2019 9:54pm

I've had the pleasure of meeting Ariel in person, he's a hero. He has done wonders for promotion the sport also so I find it hard not to like him, but id agree he's been off the last while. Especially since leaving mma fighting.

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-01-2019 10:05pm

ricero wrote: »

I thought him revealing the Brock news was quite ****ty and was him filling his own ego..

This is one of the stupidest things I've read on here that's been repeated a few times. It's literally his ****ing job to break MMA news, boohoo he upset Dana by having good sources.

dulux99 · 22-01-2019 10:05pm

ricero wrote: »

Gone off Helwani in the past year or so because of his bias and inflamed ego. I thought him revealing the Brock news was quite ****ty and was him filling his own ego.

Brett Okomoto for me is one of the top mma journalists and usually first for breaking news and announced fights.

Yeah Okamoto does get the scoops these days because he's Dana's current flavour of the month. Good spot to be in really for him, but he's a great journalist full stop. I do like Helwani too but he's infatuated with making things into WWE style stories.

Ultimate Seduction · 22-01-2019 10:09pm

dulux99 wrote: »

Yeah Okamoto does get the scoops these days because he's Dana's current flavour of the month. Good spot to be in really for him, but he's a great journalist full stop. I do like Helwani too but he's infatuated with making things into WWE style stories.

I do admire how calm helwani is when fighters get tick with him. Some great compilations on YouTube. Rashad particularly hated him.

EagererBeaver · 22-01-2019 10:10pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Spot on there with Okomoto. Helwani has no interest in mma in my opinion, he just wants to invent drama an love stories now.

Your opinion is complete and utter horse****.

Ultimate Seduction · 22-01-2019 10:13pm

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Your opinion is complete and utter horse****.

Show me a clip of his podcast where he actually talks about fights. I'll be waiting

dashoonage · 22-01-2019 10:20pm

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1087817372105351168

Potential for violence is strong with this one.

dulux99 · 22-01-2019 11:00pm

Cracker. Fancy Gaethje in that one.

Autecher · 22-01-2019 11:29pm

Romero v Costa is headlining a Fight Night on April 27th in Miami. Romero is also on some parkour reality show at the moment and put some clips on his instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs6x6gmnV99/

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs6zqyzH10f/

Ultimate Seduction · 23-01-2019 4:23am

Cejudo after 1 title defense skips long time champ Tyron Woodley, and dominant double champ Amanda Nunes in the p4p rankings. I know that p4p is load of bollocks, love to know who and how they came up with that.

Mellor · 23-01-2019 8:26am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Cejudo after 1 title defense skips long time champ Tyron Woodley, and dominant double champ Amanda Nunes in the p4p rankings. I know that p4p is load of bollocks, love to know who and how they came up with that.

Recency bias

Beersmith · 23-01-2019 9:13am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Cejudo after 1 title defense skips long time champ Tyron Woodley, and dominant double champ Amanda Nunes in the p4p rankings. I know that p4p is load of bollocks, love to know who and how they came up with that.

Fair enough i think. Bit reductive just saying 1 title defense. He beat the guy in DJ whom many considered the greatest ever. Then beats another bigger champion who would be in top 5 p4p discussion. Having said that they are bull**** anyway.

Tazzimus · 23-01-2019 10:18am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

This is one of the stupidest things I've read on here that's been repeated a few times. It's literally his ****ing job to break MMA news, boohoo he upset Dana by having good sources.

God damn journalists, how dare they do their job.

Mellor · 23-01-2019 12:48pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

God damn journalists, how dare they do their job.

People get mad at Ariel for doing his job.
Then the people get mad at Rogan for not doing Ariels job.
People are tricky to please.

The White Feather · 23-01-2019 3:58pm

Anyone else see this tweet? It's unintentionally very funny and silly

https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1087823544397021185?s=19

Autecher · 23-01-2019 4:21pm

The White Feather wrote: »

Anyone else see this tweet? It's unintentionally very funny and silly

https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1087823544397021185?s=19

Why do you think it's funny?

finglashoop · 23-01-2019 4:55pm

Its surprising rousey only had 3

The White Feather · 23-01-2019 4:58pm

It just seems funny that they compare her to Ronda. Seems a very low stat to be putting out there.Seems a bit desperate but maybe it's just me.

d00mk1n · 23-01-2019 5:16pm

finglashoop wrote: »

Its surprising rousey only had 3

Strikeforce though

riffmongous · 23-01-2019 6:18pm

The White Feather wrote: »

It just seems funny that they compare her to Ronda. Seems a very low stat to be putting out there.Seems a bit desperate but maybe it's just me.

Yeah seems a desperate, like they just want some reason to get Rousey's name in there. Not to mention it's a bit annoying that they don't count her SF wins too, in the end Ronda had 9 out of 12 career wins by armbar, with 8 of them consecutive

tommyboy26 · 23-01-2019 7:27pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I do admire how calm helwani is when fighters get tick with him. Some great compilations on YouTube. Rashad particularly hated him.

i like him. he aint afraid to ask tough questions. like when he had ali on the show

dashoonage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1087817372105351168

Potential for violence is strong with this one.

cant wait from that one.

Kron gracie makes his debut in the ufc on feb 17 im really looking forward to seen him in action

ASOT · 23-01-2019 10:37pm

Another suspected 'tainted supplement' case.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/23/18194933/walt-harris-temporarily-suspended-by-csac-for-positive-ufc-232-drug-test

dashoonage · 23-01-2019 10:42pm

ASOT wrote: »

Another suspected 'tainted supplement' case.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/23/18194933/walt-harris-temporarily-suspended-by-csac-for-positive-ufc-232-drug-test

apparently he got hit by a bead of jon jones's sweat which caused a pico pulse from some steroids he took for a bad chest infection when he was 4.

Mellor · 23-01-2019 11:33pm

ASOT wrote: »

Another suspected 'tainted supplement' case.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/23/18194933/walt-harris-temporarily-suspended-by-csac-for-positive-ufc-232-drug-test

SARMs

Noticed he passed a month previous, then popped fightnight. I highly doubt he was stared taking it in the weeks leading up to the fight. So either they didn't test for it in the first test, there were traces in his fat stores, or it was a tainted supplement.

Frank Bullitt · 24-01-2019 1:17am

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/23/18195095/trace-amount-of-same-steroid-metabolite-found-in-jon-jones-ufc-232-vada-test-results

Steroid metabolites have been found in Jon Jones’ system again.

He just can't catch a break...HA!

Ultimate Seduction · 24-01-2019 1:22am

Gintonious wrote: »

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/1/23/18195095/trace-amount-of-same-steroid-metabolite-found-in-jon-jones-ufc-232-vada-test-results

He just can't catch a break...HA!

Vada tested him that night so did usada. One clear one positive?

ASOT · 24-01-2019 1:32am

That pesky metabolite again. Jon's the real victim here. A sometimes traceable sometimes untraceable metabolite won't leave his body, the poor guy.

ASOT · 24-01-2019 1:45am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Vada tested him that night so did usada. One clear one positive?

His VADA test on the 28th was positive, but his USADA & CSAC tests on the 29th were negative.

Mellor · 24-01-2019 5:21am

ASOT wrote: »

His VADA test on the 28th was positive, but his USADA & CSAC tests on the 29th were negative.

That's actually much more favourable for Jones than all being clear, or all being positive imo.

It proves theses tests aren't an absolute measurement and don't measure exactly what's in his body. That the long term metabolite can be undetectable or detectable in different piss samples taken close together.

They don't actually know what the detection limit is for the test. Rodchenov said 6+ months as an estimate, what if it its into the range of years.

Ultimate Seduction · 24-01-2019 6:15am

Mellor wrote: »

That's actually much more favourable for Jones than all being clear, or all being positive imo.

It proves theses tests aren't an absolute measurement and don't measure exactly what's in his body. That the long term metabolite can be undetectable or detectable in different piss samples taken close together.

They don't actually know what the detection limit is for the test. Rodchenov said 6+ months as an estimate, what if it its into the range of years.

Why only Jones though? Other people got caught and after the suspension passed all tests?

Mellor · 24-01-2019 6:36am

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Why only Jones though? Other people got caught and after the suspension passed all tests?

I'm talking about the fact that it was detectable/undetectable in two tests around the same time. Shows that you can pass/fail/pass over a small period due to hydration, testing accuracy or other randomness.

Whether it can linger for so long is another issue entirely.
But what other people are you taking about, that passed tests after suspension?
The only fighter I know of that also popped for turinabol in the past was Frank Mir. And he left the UFC (and USADA testing) after his ban.

The other famous case is the Russian olympic team who got caught in 2016 for using turinabol in 2008 (retrospective testing of old samples).

0byme75341jo28 · 24-01-2019 9:27am

Mellor wrote: »

That's actually much more favourable for Jones than all being clear, or all being positive imo.

It proves theses tests aren't an absolute measurement and don't measure exactly what's in his body. That the long term metabolite can be undetectable or detectable in different piss samples taken close together.

They don't actually know what the detection limit is for the test. Rodchenov said 6+ months as an estimate, what if it its into the range of years.

Isn't it the case that not all metabolites are tested for in every drugs test though? So VADA may have done the test looking for the metabolites of turinabol whereas the others may not have. That's my understanding of the thing anyway..

Autecher · 24-01-2019 9:36am

So is Jones the champ still? He had to pass 3 months of VADA testing before he could keep the belt?

EagererBeaver · 24-01-2019 9:40am

Pablo Jealous Octogenarian wrote: »

Isn't it the case that not all metabolites are tested for in every drugs test though? So VADA may have done the test looking for the metabolites of turinabol whereas the others may not have. That's my understanding of the thing anyway..

Given everything that's happened, not testing a Jones sample for Turinabol would seem highly irresponsible.

Mellor · 24-01-2019 11:03am

Pablo Jealous Octogenarian wrote: »

Isn't it the case that not all metabolites are tested for in every drugs test though?

They can happen. There are a lot of doping tests, they don't run them all.
But as point out, the t-bol test is a must in this case.
The fact is, we don't have all the info. You'd need twice a week testing on jones for the last few months to be sure of anything

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