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2012 4 Races for 4 PBs

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    May Review

    Spent a lot of May thinking about what life could be like without running. Feeling a bit sorry for myself.

    The physio visits saved me. The certainty that she had that I was improving week by week and her lack of concern just made me tell myself not to be some glum about this, it's part of the game. She's seen hundreds of these (confirmed grade one hamstring tear), just happens to be my first one. I left every physio session feeling buoyed. The hammer feeling noticeably better at the end of the circuits.

    I also slowly began to accept and gain confidence running with that 'sensation' in the hammer. She reckons some scar tissue. The curl lifts starting with 6 kilo and working upwards were I feel key to restoring confidence in the leg.

    Only 5 runs in May. All short all easy and all largely run on grass. A little bit deflated on the first of these because I could still feel the hammer 2 months after the tear. But no pain, and as mentioned the physio visits helped me accept this.

    I give up on any notions of racing the HM in Cork, resigned to not running it as a session of some sort either. I'm just happy that the hammer is being cared for and that each day is bringing improvement. DCM is the goal I want to keep alive, to do that I need to be patient.

    Month | Monthly Miles | Daily mileage for month | Weekly Mileage for month | Daily mileage for year | Weekly mileage for year | Predicted yearly mileage
    January | 155.81 | 5.02 | 35.18 | 5.02 | 35.18 | 1835
    February | 151.36 | 5.41 | 37.84 | 5.21 | 36.44 | 1900
    March | 136.86 | 4.41 | 30.90 | 4.93 | 34.54 | 1801
    April | 83.09 | 2.77 | 19.39 | 4.39 | 30.75 | 1603
    May | 23.78 | 0.77 | 5.37 | 3.65 | 25.54 | 1332
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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM Week 14 Run 4

    Cork-2-Cobh 15 Miler @ 3:03 Marathon Pace

    Gorgeous perfect conditions on Sunday morning for this. Sunny clear skies and it felt warm. Run from Western Road across to the race start. Drop gear-bag into mini-van and continue with a gentle warm-up. Sizeable crowd gathered for this one. There would be over 800 finishers. Little did I know back in January in Raheny that it would be 9 months before I'd find myself lining up again at a race start.

    Even though I'm not racing I still feel some pre-race jitters. The plan is to hold pace steady between 4:21 [7:00] and 4:23 [7:03]. We don't have to wait to long, the siren sounds and we're off.

    Miles 01 to 05 in 35:05
    Lots of congestion over the opening 500m or so. I hadn't realised I'd placed myself so far down the field. Spend the first few minutes weaving, braking, accelerating until I find myself free of the crowd and running in clear space.

    I settle into target pace and I'm happy that it feels very easy. Need to rein myself in, it feels so slow. Myself and a female runner swap places a few times along Tivoli and through the Dunkettle roundabout. After mile 4 though I don't see her anymore. Pace continues to feel very comfortable. I slowly pick off a few runners as we head towards Glounthane. So far so good.

    Miles 06 to 10 in 34:59
    Thankfully there is no headwind to deal with as we continue east away from Cork. A spectator calls out positions for female runners so I know that I'm running a few metres ahead of F7. Around 20 metres ahead is F6. Gradually pull closer to her over the next while. There are a few inclines to deal with along here and I do feel some increase in effort on these. I cannot just switch off and run on auto-pilot I now do need to concentrate to stay on pace. Whenever I've checked the Garmin it's shown 4:21 [7:00] or 4:22 [7:01] average.

    We swing right for Fota. Lots of runners known to the spectators. I like this tree lined section. I'm running mostly on my own. Around 30 metres ahead are a Watergrasshill singlet and a Midleton singlet. Near the entrance to the Wildlife Park we pass the 10 mile marker. A glance at the Garmin shows I'm just a few seconds over 70 mins. Steady progress.

    Miles 11 to 15 in 34:37
    These are always the most testing miles. Ten miles in the legs and now the hilliest section of the point to point. Legs are feeling the effort now. On the flats I'm fine but on the inclines I can feel some fatigue. I'm not being overtaken and I slowly pick off one or two runners. On a hill up ahead Midleton has dropped Watergrasshill. Soon enough I ease past Midleton. I feel a bit guilty that I'm not racing. Some runners are clearly hurting and I feel I should also be working at race effort. True also though that I'm not the only one using this to test pace ahead of DCM.

    After mile 13 I'm looking forward to the finishing line. Midleton is gradually coming back to me. More hills. Happy to pass the 14 mile marker. Pace is showing 4:21 [7:00] on the Garmin. With around 400ms to go I hear footsteps approaching from behind and I'm overtaken. Where'd he come from.

    Ignoring the fact that I'm not racing I up the pace. Overtake him with around 200m to go. I can tell I've a lot in the tank. I push to ensure I stay ahead of him. Another 100m and I would have caught Midleton. Pass under the race clock with 1:44:5X showing.

    That was good. Overall a definite confidence booster. I could have continued for few more miles at that pace if needed. It equated to a 3:03:00 marathon, so pretty much 7 minutes faster than what I'll be targeting in 3 weeks time. A 3:09:XX is there or thereabouts. Next year I hope to be targeting sub 100 mins for Cork-2-Cobh.

    Enjoy the sunshine before hopping on a train back toward town.

    (P74 of 809 finishers)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM Week 15

    Last week was largely a recovery week.

    Easy 10 Miles
    Was in Athlone on Tuesday night rather than Wednesday. A little too soon after Cork-2-Cobh to run a track session so instead I just ran a no-looking-at-the-watch 10 miler around the usual Athlone routes. Legs were tired on this one and it felt like a bit of a slog. Happy to finish up.

    Total 9.99M @ 8:31 (I'm calling it 10)

    Easy 4 Miles
    An easy lunchtime run on Thursday. Legs feeling better than Tuesday night. Bit breezy and a bit warm out.

    Total 4.02M @ 8:32

    Easy 4 Miles
    More easy running. This time back in Athlone. After weeks of trying I finally manage to finish up early and get out after work for some miles before heading for home. An out and back along the Greenway. Legs feeling very heavy, calves in particular feel like concrete. Happy it's only 4 miles on the menu.

    Total 4.00M @ 8:45

    Tempo 4 Miles
    A light session on Saturday morning. Had toyed with idea of a 10K Tempo but was caught for time and persuaded myself that a 4M tempo would be fine. I can get back to the 10K tempos post DCM. Absolutely beautiful sunny morning up on the playing fields. No wind to deal with either. I wore a long sleeve under-top but wished I hadn't, it was warm out.

    I start the session a little to enthusiastically, travelling at 3:50 [6:10] or 3:51 [6:11] pace. It feels ok. All the same I ease up a little and drop into my tempo range 3:55 [6:18] to 4:00 [6:26]. A few of the Donore guys running Fartlek this morning. There's actually a lot of runners on the playing fields this morning. The tempo 4 miles are over quickly, more or less two and a half laps. I reckon I could have pushed on to 10K if I needed to, I'm happy just knowing that. Cool-down back home and settle down for the Samoa game.

    1.84M @ 8:38
    4.00M @ 6:19
    1.35M @ 8:02

    Total 7.19M @ 7:14

    Long Run 18 Miles
    Miserable, miserable, wet and chilly Sunday morning. Unrelenting rainfall. I join the Donore gang this morning. Starts with just two of us, grows 9 strong at one point and then drops back down to 5. Feet soaked from puddle after puddle. Legs never really warmed into this one. Effort felt a little higher than I would have liked. And for the last 4 or 5 miles the hammer was providing some feedback. Most runs now I don't notice it but today I did. Conversation got me through this one. The other guys running DCM look trim and comfortable and in my mind seemed to be expending less effort than I was. Miles in the bag though, that's the last of the long runs completed.

    So in this training block I've logged:
    • 3 x 16 Miles
    • 1 x 17 Miles (with 15M at 3:03MP)
    • 4 x 18 Miles
    • 3 x 20 Miles (all progression runs)
    • 1 x 22 Miles

    Ideally I would have liked another 22M or 3 hour run, just to induce that level of active fatigue in the legs. But overall pleased with the long runs and how I've felt on them.

    Two weeks to go, taper starts here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 Week 16 Runs 1 & 2

    Mindset has switched to taper. Just keep the legs ticking over, nothing too stressful. I will run one more light session, maybe 600s, or maybe 2 or 3 miles at sub 3:00MP pace, just something to stop the legs from going stale.

    Easy 5 Miles

    Tuesday after work. Run an easy lap of my Kilmainham-Chapelizod-Heuston loop. Footfall and stride feel fluid tonight even though legs are tired.

    Total 5.03M @ 8:39

    Easy 8 Miles

    Another Wednesday evening in Athlone where I finish work close to seven and I'm feeling jaded. As it's taper time I decide I don't need to push myself when jaded. So no track, I'll save the light session to Saturday. Instead I just run an 8 mile lap round town. Kept the pace easy yet some sub 8:00 miles snuck in.

    Total 8.30M @ 8:06


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - 10 Days to Raceday

    No running today but for these final days I want to log food etc. Just to help me keep disciplined. Should also be getting sleep and not updating here gone midnight.
    • Breakfast - Fruit scone.
    • Lunch - Mushroom Soup, Fruit Salad.
    • Dinner - Aubergine, tomato and red chilli risotto.
    • Snacks - Flahavans Fruit&Nut Flapjack, some grapes, pistachios.
    • Alcohol - None


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - 9 Days to Race Day

    Easy 4 Miles

    Enjoyed this. One of those no pressure runs where the legs feel unexpectedly light and bouncy. Probably helped that it was a Friday afternoon and I'd already logged off. Decided on a whim to head east on the Greenway instead of west. Unexplored territory. Wet conditions, mix of showers and sunshine, scents of countryside. Just a mile and a tiny bit out and back but see nobody along here.
    Tip back to the office and shower before heading back to Dublin.

    Total 4.16M @ 8:14
    • breakfast - granola and shredded wheat cereal with oat milk
    • lunch - lots of mixed nuts, banana, blueberries
    • dinner - pasta with paste of anchovies, garlic, passata and dry chilli flakes, focaccia bread
    • snacks - emmental cheese, fruit scone, dark chocolate
    • alcohol - none


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - 8 Days to Race Day

    Wasn't sure what to do on Saturday. Didn't really fancy intervals felt maybe something closer to MP would be more palatable. Decided I'd just run a lap of the Park at sub 3:00 pace. Aim was to gain some confidence for 3:09 pace. Plan didn't work quite as well as I'd hoped. I ran the lap anti-clockwise from Islandbridge Gate. The first 2 miles I had to push to hit pace. I know it's slightly uphill and there was a light head wind, but still I was expecting this to feel easy. Once I passed left North Road behind and headed onto OS Road things started to get much easier. Now I had to concentrate not to run too fast. Some confidence restored on the closing miles. As I was running this I did think to myself no way could I sustain this for 26.2. I am definitely not in sub 3:00 pace. Not that I ever thought I was.

    0.93M @ 9:21
    5.83M @ 6:47 (2:57 MP)
    1.47M @ 8:33

    Total 8.24M @ 7:24

    haven't been noting with great care what I ate over the last days, what I remember for sure:
    • Breakfast - porridge with honey
    • Lunch - salad of lettuce, egg, tomato, dried seaweed
    • Dinner - shop-bought ravioli (nettle and thyme)
    • Snacks - crackers and emmental, some dark chocolate
    • Alcohol - 1 second half Guinness


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - 7 Days to Race Day

    Bit chilly out. Out earlyish to the usual first Donore meeting point. First small group of us head over to club-house. Group grows and we head off on the usual route. Next Sunday the chief topic of discussion. So many other runners we pass wishing us good luck for next week. As always the miles tick past quickly as we chat our way around. Legs feeling much better than seven days ago. People peeling off early today as lower mileage is the plan. I peel off after nearly 11 miles and run a mile and a bit home, via IMMA, to bring up 12 for the morning.

    Total 12.04 @ 7:48

    Not the greatest on the diet front:
    • Breakfast - Granola and shredded wheat with oat milk
    • Lunch - homemade shepherd's pie with a largely beetroot based stock
    • Dinner - some reheated shepherd's pie, always better reheated.
    • Snacks - home made mixed berry crumble with small spoon of ice-cream (I was weak and we had friends round)
    • Alcohol - 2 glasses of red wine, 1 Guinness West Indies Porter


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - 6 Days to Race Day

    Rest day.

    Diet, again not great.
    • Breakfast - Porridge with honey
    • Lunch - granola and nut based cereal with oat milk (working from home and was lazy)
    • Dinner - Risotto with remaining beetroot stock, carrot and fava beans
    • Snacks - crackers, some biscuits, and a small portion of yesterday's crumble (with spoon of ice-cream)
    • Alcohol - 2 glasses of red with dinner


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - 5 Days to Race Day

    New pair of Asterias get their debut today. The old pair have logged just shy of 400 miles. I try them out on my usual 5 mile Kilmainham, Inchicore, Chapelizod, Islandbridge, Heuston loop. They feel much more comfy and bouncy that the old pair. I will almost certainly wear them on Sunday. I will run three more times in time beforehand just to be sure they continue to feel ok. Legs felt good tonight. Easy effort and happy to see a sub 8:00 sneaking in as easy.

    M01 9:34
    M02 8:31
    M03 8:06
    M04 8:04
    M05 7:46

    Total 5.03M @ 8:25

    Diet leaving me down, need to make better effort for remaining days
    • Breakfast - wholemeal bagel with honey
    • Lunch - toasted sandwiches of cheddar, olive tapenade and oregano on rye bread
    • Dinner - Frozen vegan falafel pizza, with cherry tomatoes added
    • Snacks - some dark chocolate, crackers, some biscuits (munchies today)
    • Alcohol - None


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭squiredanaher


    so... a few days out.......what's your gold, silver and bronze?
    best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Hoping you get the desired result - best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    so... a few days out.......what's your gold, silver and bronze?
    best of luck.

    Thanks. Not the greateat final week.

    Platinum <= 3:08:59
    Gold = 3:09:XX
    Silver = 3:10:XX
    Bronze = 3:11:XX
    Consolation < 3:13:42
    Hoping you get the desired result - best of luck.

    Thanks. Lap of the Running Gods now. Hope I've done enough.

    Simple strategy - keep 3:10 pacers in sight until 22. Then see if I can ease past.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    DCM19 - Final Runs

    Final week unravelled a little. Wanted to do 3K @ MP on Wednesday evening but had a load of personal admin to get through after work and was meeting a mate in the evening.

    No running Thursday as I headed home from Athlone late.

    4+ Miles with 2K @ MP

    Did manage 4 and a half miles Friday afternoon. Ran from office to town along the Greenway and back via Killyon Hill and Cartrontroy Road. I included 2K at MP along here. Felt ok but not as ok as I would have liked. I reckon 2 days without running meant the legs felt a little rusty.

    4.57M @ 7:52, with 1.24M @ 7:12.

    Easy Expo Commute

    Probably ran more miles on Saturday than I should have, but I kept the effort easy. Gorgeous weather as I run from home along the canal and cut across to the RDS via Herbert Park. Pick up my number (2260) and pick up my PowerBar Gels. Busy Expo but I'm not in the mood to browze nor purchase. Bag is heavy and I'm not looking forward to the run back home. Concerned about the miles and right arm is out of action as it is used to keep luggage from bouncing about. Legs are ok. Would have liked a little more bounce, at least on the outward leg.

    Out 4.27M @ 8:34
    Back 4.52M @ 8:49

    That's it. Feeling someway confident.

    (Race report will go up tomorrow)

    Main meals on Saturday:
    • breakfast - homemade hashbrowns baked with eggs
    • dinner - homemade red thai curry (pad-choi, peas, courgettes, scallions) with white basmati rice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    great to meet you yesterday, looking forward to the report!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Been tipping away at the report during the day but I'm only at K16. Don't want to post it piece-meal so it'll be another while before I post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Home to Start-Line

    This part didn’t quite go to plan.

    I thought I had everything planned to a tee. Leave home 7:30, stroll into town for 8:15, drop bag and find 3:10 balloons before the 8:45 start. Then at 7:30 just before heading out, I read that the orange wave baggage area closes at 8:00. What!? Pressure on.

    I probably should have cycled but the thought didn’t cross my mind. Nearest bus stop reads ‘No Real-Time-Info due to Marathon’, but gives no indication of whether there are any buses running. I cannot afford to wait to find out. One hour before race start I head down to Heuston to get some cash and a taxi. The cash part is a success but the taxi rank is empty. I wonder will I be able to run in a later wave? I head back up to Jame’s Street, hoping to find a passing bus or taxi.

    Then my White Knight arrives. Taxi pulls in, driver asks am I running the marathon, and when I say yes, he says hop-in. He is also running, as is his passenger up front, and he’s ready to pick up any other late arrivals along the way. Free trip to Stephen’s Green. Thank you so much, hope you get your time.

    Pressure off I walk to Government Buildings, dropping my bag at 8:10. I work my way toward the start area. Long queue for portaloo. With about 8 mins to go I can finally try to work my way up to the 3:10 balloons. However like in 2017, I can only get as far as 100m behind the 3:20 balloons.
    I don’t mind too much, tell myself to get to bed earlier and out of the house earlier next time. I didn’t want to start too fast anyway so this should help with that. Problem is that my plan of keeping the 3:10 balloons in sight may no longer be feasible, they’ll be too far up the road.

    Weather could not possibly be better, cloudless skies and bright sunshine. Chilly, so I have gloves on and will ditch them somewhere along the road. Take a pre-race gel and I carry 6 more with me to consume every 4 miles. Target pace for the first half will be 4:29 [7:12] or 4:30 [7:14] on the Garmin, and then for the second half 4:28 [7:11] or 4:29 [7:12]. The legs definitely have the speed, but do they have the endurance?

    Strangely I had more nerves ahead of Cork-to-Cobh 3 weeks ago than I had Sunday morning while we wait for the off. Feeling too casual. My expectations are not hugely high. I think if you asked me how the race would pan out I would have said there’ll be the familiar fade somewhere around 20 but I might just have enough to hang on for the 3:09. Probably not the best attitude to have on the start-line. Then, without too much fanfare, we are off.

    01K to 05K in 22:42 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:11:36)

    Congestion. Mad congestion. I don't mind too much and I don't panic. There will be plenty time to get back on pace. For now it's all about watching out for street furniture and heels and hoping whoever is behind me is doing the same.

    I don't look at the Garmin there’s no point. I just try to slowly weave my way forward toward the 3:20 balloons. This is not very easy to do. Hugging kerbs, running wide, accelerate, brake, weave. K1, K2 and K4 were significantly slower than target pace, K3 and K5 were significantly faster. Over the first few K I felt strangely detached from the race, face was a little numb from the cold and I felt a bit 'muffled'. Not travelling immediately at MP made me feel I wasn't properly racing. Hoped this sensation would pass and thankfully it did. I only ease past the 3:20 pack shortly before the turn onto the NCR and only then can I start to concentrate on finding a steady rhythm.

    05K to 10K in 22:10 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:09:19)

    I find much more space in front of the 3:20 group. Congestion all of a sudden is no longer a problem. Into the Park and onto familiar territory. First gel at 4 miles. I still have gloves on so this is a little trickier to manage than normal. As always though I enjoy the distraction of this task. Turn onto Chesterfield. Time to pick out some vests. I note a Trim runner 10ms ahead. And there's a Bohermeen runner close by. Also two guys in R26 tops. Lets see how our relationship develops. Then up ahead, a long way up ahead, I see a green 3"10 balloon. Probably 500ms away, but in sight. For the first time I start to pay attention to the Garmin. I see 4:30 [7:14] become 4:29 [7:12] and tell myself to be careful. It's early early days and you're climbing. I'm carrying my own 500ml water bottle so need to use the water stations. Exit the Castleknock Gate and soon there will be the first official split of the morning. I cross the 10K mat and see 45:XX on the Garmin. Spot on. Congestion navigated, pace on track. Time to settle in.

    11K to 15K in 22:15 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:08:53)

    I love the corner at Myo's. The crowd the music the end (almost) of the incline. Little shivers up the back and onto the scalp. Cannot help but smile. Cannot help but try look strong for the crowd. Then College Road and it's quiet again. Just footfall to listen to and the occasional clap from solo scattered spectators. Enjoy the descent down Tower Road. Some runners I think push here and I'm overtaken more than overtaking. I try hold pace steady so my effort drops. We turn back into the park at Knockmaroon and head for the 8 mile marker. How do I feel? Mostly ok. The only negative is the usual worry about how I will feel later on. I need to try focus on the moment and enjoy feeling ok. As we drop down Upper Glen one runner says to me that you got to love this stretch from Castleknock, that it's like 2 free miles. I wonder if maybe my legs, come Mount Street Lower, will be fooled into thinking I've only done 24 miles not 26.

    16K to 20K in 22:22 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:08:38)

    Exit at Chapelizod Gate and pass Donore. Over the Liffey and we turn left to tackle what in my mind is the first proper test of the day. The climb up Sarsfield Road. The climb goes fine. Checking the Garmin the average pace is holding steady at 4:28 [7:12] Some others are breathing heavy. My breathing is fine. Another climb from the rail bridge up to Inchicore Road. Heading into home territory along here so time to look fresh and spritely. I swap places a few times with the Bohermeen vest, and the Trim vest is always a few metres up the road. These two are surely also targeting sub 3:10. Kilmainham is busy, loud support here and I get a few shout-outs from neighbours and friends. Onto SCR. Way down at the other end of SCR I can see one of the 3:10 balloons. Take gel number 3, happy that the gel belt is feeling lighter. I still feel ok. Over the 20K mat with 1:30:XX showing on the Garmin. Anybody tracking is seeing consistent and on track splits.

    21K to 25K in 22:21 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:08:46)

    Head through a loud Dolphins’ Barn and turn onto my least favourite stretch of the course, the dreary drag out along the Crumlin Road. This is the only part of the course where I remember having a breeze to deal with. Nothing strong, but I remember tucking in behind a group of 3 or 4 runners here. Pass over the half-way mat, my HM split is recorded as 1:34:39. Maybe just a little too quick. I see 4:29 [7:12] pace holding steady on the Garmin. I’m anxious now not to see average pace drop to 4:30 [7:14]. Ideally I want to see it move to 4:28 [7:11] and try hold it there. I tell myself to stay sharp now and not ease off. Legs are feeling a little tired, nothing terrible, nothing to cause too much concern. I think I feel better at this point than I did back in 2017.

    26K to 30K in 21:58 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:08:12)

    These 5K are all run faster than target pace. The road profile is slightly downhill. K26 is run at 4:19 [6:57] pace. Probably too fast. I reckon along here I should have been trying to hold steady instead of the gentle push that the splits reveal. I know that the legs are starting to feel more tired and in a way I think pushing slightly was an attempt to deny this.

    Along here I found myself running behind 4 Omagh vests. They are running in a diamond formation and I reckon they must be targeting sub 3:10. I allow myself be dragged along by these for a while and then after maybe 1500m I find I’ve overtaken them. Not sure if I sped up or if they slowed down. In hindsight it might have been better to have stayed behind this group for a while longer. I’m anxious to get to the 30K mat so that I can focus properly on the final 10K stretch. I go over the mat in 2:14:XX on the Garmin. Again I’m very aware that from the outside looking in, these splits are looking really good. But there’s a nagging realisation that I no longer feel as good as the splits might suggest. There’s a long way to go yet.

    31K to 35K in 22:30 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:08:27)

    I continue to run in denial. K31 is a speedy 4:17 [6:54], my fastest since K5, admittedly it has a nice downhill drop to the Dodder in Milltown. K32 and K33 are also both ahead of target pace and for these 3K I see 4:27 [7:10] as average pace on the Garmin. After 33K I was, on the Garmin, running a 3:07:49 marathon. Mixed emotions, I was feeling at my worst since the race began but travelling at my fastest. I knew that soon the splits would start to reflect how I was feeling, this 4:27 pace was illusory. I get a shout-out here from Mr and Mrs overpronator. I knew they’d seen me before I’d seen them so there was no pretence on my face. I was convinced that their comments to each other after I passed were along the lines of, ‘He’s f@#ked’. Chatting over post-race drinks they confirmed I was right. I pass the 20 mile marker a worried man. Take my 5th gel.

    I turn onto Clonskeagh Road and boom, fatigue in the legs, and some despair setting in, the splits start to collapse. K34 and K35 are both 4:42s [7:34s]. I remember seeing 2hrs 30mins on the Garmin and thinking I cannot survive another 40 mins of this. Just like in 2017 it’s here by Beaver Row that I accept my target is probably gone.

    36K to 40K in 23:02 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:09:11)

    The collapse is not as dramatic as I’d feared. I manage to rally a little and slow the decline. I realise I still have my gloves on. I take them off and the fresh air on my hands feels like a liberation. I see that there is Lucozade at the next table and I take a risk and grab a cup. Drink some and hope my stomach doesn’t object. Maybe it was in the head but I did feel for a minute or two that I was energized again.

    Fatigue was still heavy heavy in the legs but I seemed to learn how to ignore it. Heartbreak Hill was navigated without too much pain. I’m suffering but I’m overtaking runners, including Trim I think, that are suffering more than I am. This gives me a boost. The downhill to the Stillorgan Road is also very welcome.

    A Watergrasshill vest overtakes me and I manage to up the pace briefly to stay with her. When I check the Garmin the average pace is still showing at 4:28 [3:12]. Could this still be on? Could this be just a wobble that I am going to recover from. The hope triggers some adrenaline and I manage to fight a while longer. The fight continues along Nutley Lane but then the spark finally goes out when we turn onto Merrion Road and onto the home straight. K40 logs as a 4:50 [7:47].

    I’m not dreadfully disappointed, I’m surprised I managed to fight as long as I did. I’m aware that anyone still following on the tracker will see an on target split for 40K, but they won’t have seen the 4:50, and they won’t know that the legs are shot, that my footfall is flat and that the tank is running on fumes.

    41K to 42K in 10:04 (estimated finish time by Garmin 3:10:18)

    The crowds are great here. I appreciate the support but it just cannot inspire more heroics in the legs. I’m just trying to hold the decline at bay as much as possible and I’m desperate now for the end to arrive. Bohermeen passes me, as do 2 of the Omagh quartet.

    I notice I’m carrying a new bottle of water, I ditch it by a bin, less grams to carry. This helps, form feels a little smoother. Trying to figure out if I’ll manage a PB or not. I think I will, but I don’t trust my calculations anymore. I’m running through cement.

    Somewhere along Northumberland Road I miss my 3:09:XX target. I miss it by one road! Mount Street Lower was just one road too far. I can see the bridge by the School House and I know that soon the pain will be over. I’m so looking forward to stopping. Over the bridge and the finish line still seems so far away. For a moment or two it feels as if I’m the only person running along this final road, I feel as if I am the sole point of focus for the spectators on either side. Glancing at the Garmin I know that a new PB is safe. Finally the blue carpet. Up ahead someone is being carried over the finish.

    I pass over the line in 3:11:18 on the Garmin. This would later be confirmed as my official finishing time. Almost 2 and a half minutes quicker than in 2017.

    Finish Line to Toners

    The medal feels heavy over around my neck. I keep walking, waiting for the body to cave in, but it doesn’t. Help another runner to stretch out cramp that was crippling him, hoping I wouldn’t cramp while doing so. Meet some other runners I know including a good group from Donore, all smiling, all ran well. Collect baggage and wander with scotindublin (great running) to Toner’s to change, spray deodorant, drink some civil pints and discuss all things running with the rest of the Donore Gang, plus the overpronators and IvoryTower. Nice afternoon after a good morning.

    I’ll post up my post-race thoughts and analysis in the next day or two.

    • DCM 2019 – Official Time 3:11:18 PB
    • Pos 1262 of 17725 finishers (or 8th in a race of 100)
    • Almost 9 mins ahead of BQ 2021


  • Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭wowzer


    Good honest report Donal, your recollection of the details is astounding. Well done on the PB.
    Running so many miles to and from the expo and the stress of the lateness on the morning probably had some part to play, I guess your analysis will mention this.
    I hope you don't take offence to me saying if you applied the same meticulous approach to the non running part of the marathon as you do to the training you may have well exceeded your platinum target.
    Well done again and there is plenty more to come off that PB .


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭squiredanaher


    Excellent. Great report. I can see why you may be disappointed but I've no doubt there's a sub 3 in you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Well battled to the end and congrats on the PB. Super report too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Love the detail that you go into - a super race and a super report.

    You come across downbeat about the result - a PB in the marathon is fantastic.

    A more measured approach in the middle and you've had got the gold medal 3.09.59 - but dont take away from a great performance - you went for it, on a different day the running Gods would have given it to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    With around 5K remaining in DCM19 and with further fatigue filling my legs with each stride, I told myself that I am crazy to even entertain thoughts of ever going sub 3:00. But come that Sunday evening I was already willing to accept that maybe it’s not yet impossible. I do need to change something though and I need to try trigger some significant progress. This was the 10th marathon I’ve raced, progress has been slow but steady, I went through a period where I could not break 3:30. Now I find myself unable after 3 attempts to break 3:10.

    Sub 3:00 is, in my mind, at least 2 marathons away. I’m not going to obsess about sub 3:00 now. To borrow from football, my focus remains on the next match, which is sub 3:10. Win the sub 3:10 match and then I can focus on the final, with how well I break sub 3:10 feeding my confidence accordingly.

    I came really close this time, I missed my target on Northumberland Road, within earshot of the finishing line. I don’t need to tweak much to go sub 3:10. But I want to do it feeling like I did when I went sub 3:20 back in 2015, I don’t want to feel like I scraped over the line, I want to do it feeling in control over the closing kilometres and not fading fast. I think there are three things I could do to ensure that next time out I will achieve this.

    Increase the Mileage
    If I’m going to continue targeting marathons then I need to increase my mileage. I’m simply not running enough miles. Excluding race-week, for the 16 weeks of training ahead of DCM19, I averaged only 42 miles a week. I broke 50 miles on only three weeks. And my highest mileage week was 52 miles. Not enough. I think I did well to hit 3:11 on this mileage. If I had run an average of even 50 miles a week instead of 42 miles, I think I would have gone sub 3:10. For 2020 I want to target 50 miles a week rather than 40. And during the marathon specific block I need to string some 60 mile weeks together during peak training.

    Run Longer
    For DCM I ticked the marathon-pace long-run box. But I don’t think I properly ticked the time-on-my-feet box. Only once did I spend 3 hours on the road. On that run I went over 22 miles and could I feel the fatigue kicking in over the last 20 minutes. I think I need to run these 3 hour runs more often and hopefully start delaying that feeling of fatigue. Maybe then on race-day, if that fatigue kicks-in, it’ll do so around miles 24 and 25, rather than around miles 21 and 22. I think it is realistic to target one 3 hour run every month in 2020, or at least 2 every 3 months.

    Join a Club
    I’ve toyed with this idea for sometime now and I do think it’s time to bite the bullet. I’d sign up with Donore. I already run at least once a month with them on Sunday mornings. If I was to run sessions with them even just once a week I think having someone to chase and having people on my shoulder would inject extra sharpness and speed into the legs. Building confidence and ensuring marathon pace feels that much easier.

    Coming so close this time has made me eager to try again, and has made me enthusiastic to try implement the above changes. I availed of the priority entry at the weekend and have signed up for DCM20. The other marathon that could tempt me is the Milan marathon but probably not next year.

    The other thing I need to remind myself of every so often is that I tore my hamstring in March. This makes this year’s marathon PB very welcome. Back in April and May I was starting to doubt whether or not I would even make the start-line.

    For the record, this is how I’ve taken 40 minutes off my marathon time:

    3:51 CCM10
    3:41 CCM11
    3:40 CCM12
    3:41 DCM12
    3:39 CCM13
    3:24 CCM14
    3:18 CCM15
    3:13 CCM16
    3:13 DCM17
    3:11 DCM19


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Easy 6 miles

    Back on the road. Laced up last Saturday after 5 days of no running and an unpoliced diet. Miserable wet conditions outside but I was lucky to get out when I did and avoid the monsoon that rolled in later in the afternoon.
    Ran from home to the Park, in at Parkgate and up the footpath along Chesterfield. All shades of autumn yellow and orange on display. The legs feel mostly ok. I can feel the hammer slightly (it didn’t protest at all during or in the days after the marathon) and every so often some other muscle or joint would twinge for a stride or two. Felt good to be back out running though.

    Total 6.42M @ 8:28

    Easy 3 Miles

    Combined shopping and running on Sunday morning. A relaxed jog into town. Pick up some groceries. A relaxed jog back home. Not too much traffic around so streets were easy to navigate. Legs felt better than yesterday and I was treated to some sunshine on the return leg. Distances can be deceptive at times: hard to believe that from home to Exchequer Street is the same distance as a lap of the playing fields, for me the former feels much longer.

    1.62M @ 8:43
    1.66M @ 8:27


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    Really great race report and although our respective finishing times were some distance apart, I could easily identify with a lot if what you experienced on the day.
    Well done on the PB too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    I'd agree with you on the mileage - I think peaking at 70'ish is needed (peaking not ave).

    If you peaked at 52m and had a 22m run in there then that 1 run accounted for 42% of your weeks total.

    Having a more structured plan would no doubt help you balance between;

    Mileage
    Easy long runs
    Long runs with stuff
    Mid week sessions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    wowzer wrote: »
    Good honest report Donal, your recollection of the details is astounding. Well done on the PB.
    Running so many miles to and from the expo and the stress of the lateness on the morning probably had some part to play, I guess your analysis will mention this.
    I hope you don't take offence to me saying if you applied the same meticulous approach to the non running part of the marathon as you do to the training you may have well exceeded your platinum target.
    Well done again and there is plenty more to come off that PB .

    Thanks, zero offence taken. Good to hear from you haven't crossed paths in a while.

    The extra miles the day before DCM is something I will avoid for sure next time round. I had in my head that it was just a quick trip along the canal and back! And the rushed start on raceday certainly didn't help me ease into the right mental zone ahead of the off. You're right about the non training elements, time after time I promise I'll properly manage diet, sleep, core, etc and I never do. Will shortly be changing work so hopefully the new routine might help with this.
    Excellent. Great report. I can see why you may be disappointed but I've no doubt there's a sub 3 in you.

    Thanks. I have some doubt in me about a sub 3. But it won't stop be from trying. Disappointment has been replaced with resolve.
    Singer wrote: »
    Well battled to the end and congrats on the PB. Super report too.

    Thanks Singer. Plaudits need to go in your direction though. For me your run was genuinely inspirational. Brilliant performance and deserved result.
    Love the detail that you go into - a super race and a super report.

    You come across downbeat about the result - a PB in the marathon is fantastic.

    A more measured approach in the middle and you've had got the gold medal 3.09.59 - but dont take away from a great performance - you went for it, on a different day the running Gods would have given it to you.

    Thanks. I think you could be right about the middle section, at one point I was dipping into 6:5X pace. Even though in any given moment across the 26.2 miles it may not feel that way, the race still comes down to fine margins. Probably sounded downbeat because I've seen this raceday script unfold so many times now, 9 out of 10 marathons.
    coogy wrote: »
    Really great race report and although our respective finishing times were some distance apart, I could easily identify with a lot if what you experienced on the day.
    Well done on the PB too!

    Thanks. I popped across to read and enjoyed your own report. So much so that I went and read your 2018 report as well. It brings a lot of context to your 2019 performance and shows how brave and accomplished your 2019 run was. You will go sub 3:30. I'd bet you'll do it on your next attempt. Enjoy the journey.
    I'd agree with you on the mileage - I think peaking at 70'ish is needed (peaking not ave).

    If you peaked at 52m and had a 22m run in there then that 1 run accounted for 42% of your weeks total.

    Having a more structured plan would no doubt help you balance between;

    Mileage
    Easy long runs
    Long runs with stuff
    Mid week sessions.

    Always happy to hear your feedback. That 22miler was on a 50 point something mile week so even higher than 42% (and it was one of only 4 runs that week). Hands up, this marathon block was not run off a scheduled plan, I made it up as I went along. More stucture and more miles next time out. Do you mention a 70 mile peak period with sub 3:00 in mind or with sub 3:10 in mind. Or is it irrespective of target time? I'd be really pleased to average 50 to 55 and peak 60 to 65 and see how that influences race day performance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Next

    So the post DCM luxury of not running if I don't feel like it is starting to wane. Day-tripping today and decided I'd like to travel light so left the running gear at home. Now with blue skies outside I feel an itch to run and guilt, a lot of guilt.

    The post marathon holiday is over. Time to get back on the road. Thoughts turning towards 2020.

    I think first target will be Raheny, scene this year of my proudest race result. It will be a hard task to try PB (<29:56) but I'm going to give it a shot. Even if I don't PB the training block should stand to me. Focus after Raheny will be on a sub 85 HM in Cork in June (hoping to avoid a hat-trick of DNSs). And then sub 3:10 take 3.

    Back of a beermat thoughts for Raheny listed below. Will flesh these out shortly. I have 11 weeks to play with. A 10 week training block with a race week taper. I've always liked to have freedom to build my own plan and have been wary about joining a club for this reason. I guess I can just include 'club session' as a component in my own plans?
    • Next Week: 40 miles plus a 4M Tempo
    • Last 2 Weeks of November: 45 Miles plus re-introduce 400m sessions
    • December: 45 mile weeks, more 400s and/or 2 see-what-they're-like sessions with Donore.
    • January: 50 mile weeks, Parkrun TT and 1M TT on my usual 1M TT route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭overpronator


    Just to Alan's point about 70 miles, I think its spot on as a benchmark. You've enough data points now to know now that your sole issue is the extra little bit of endurance, the speed is there. Think there is nothing wrong with looking to peak in the high 60s or low 70s for your next crack, irrespective of target. (Should be sub 3 btw!!)

    I'd say you should probably also look to race a bit more over 5k/10k in the 6 months before you start the marathon block, maybe once a month or 6 weeks. It gives you that little edge mentally, especially when you bang out some solid times. Now whilst I didnt do a marathon, one of my goals for this year was to race once a month where possible and aside from the stuff I mentioned, its just been really enjoyable!


    Hopefully catch up for a few miles over the next few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Just to Alan's point about 70 miles, I think its spot on as a benchmark. You've enough data points now to know now that your sole issue is the extra little bit of endurance, the speed is there. Think there is nothing wrong with looking to peak in the high 60s or low 70s for your next crack, irrespective of target. (Should be sub 3 btw!!)

    I'd say you should probably also look to race a bit more over 5k/10k in the 6 months before you start the marathon block, maybe once a month or 6 weeks. It gives you that little edge mentally, especially when you bang out some solid times. Now whilst I didnt do a marathon, one of my goals for this year was to race once a month where possible and aside from the stuff I mentioned, its just been really enjoyable!


    Hopefully catch up for a few miles over the next few weeks.

    God high 60s low 70s. Domestically I'd have to somehow hide them. Runmutes would help. And of course it's just peak. Yeah between Raheny and Cork HM, I'd aim to target some 5Ks and/or 10Ks. Getting race fit mentally and physically and working to make HM pace more palatable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    Good to see you are enjoying the break D and getting some solid advice from everyone on here; plenty of positives to take especially coming from where you were at the beginning of the year with the hammer injury.

    A proper block of structured training for DCM20 and I have absolutely no doubt there is a sub 3hr in there.

    Hopefully see you down at Donore for a few sessions; there is a void to be filled in the group now that Overpronator has moved on to bigger and better things!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Here's a plan for 2020. Go all in on the club, run more, SHOW UP WITH PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE THE MARATHON and break 3:00 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    Have you considered motivational speaking B?
    Singer wrote: »
    Here's a plan for 2020. Go all in on the club, run more, SHOW UP WITH PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE THE MARATHON and break 3:00 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Good to see you are enjoying the break D and getting some solid advice from everyone on here; plenty of positives to take especially coming from where you were at the beginning of the year with the hammer injury.

    A proper block of structured training for DCM20 and I have absolutely no doubt there is a sub 3hr in there.

    Hopefully see you down at Donore for a few sessions; there is a void to be filled in the group now that Overpronator has moved on to bigger and better things!

    Thanks C. Yeah plan on joining in for a couple of midweek sessions in December and will probably bite the bullet for the new year and sign up. Want to get two solo speed sessions done first so I don't turn up completely cold.
    Singer wrote: »
    Here's a plan for 2020. Go all in on the club, run more, SHOW UP WITH PLENTY OF TIME BEFORE THE MARATHON and break 3:00 :)

    Sounds too complicated ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Last Week

    Second and final take-it-easy week after DCM. Just ran twice.

    Easy 4.02M @ 8:34

    On Thursday evening I ran what is likely to be my final Athlone run. After work ran to mate's house for dinner. Bag on back and showered at his. Forgot to press start at the outset so lost about half a mile. Bit sad to be saying goodbye to my Athlone routes; Cartrontroy, Retreat, Golden Mile along the Shannon, the Old Rail Line, the IDA park the pitches and track at AIT, and others. They served me well over the last 4 and a bit years.

    Easy 4.58 @ 8:40

    Saturday morning, nothing planned, wet and mucky out. Take out the Dynafits and head to the Park for some muddy trails. Quite a few others had the same idea and it's busy on the trails. Didn't stay out too long. Long enough to happily note that the legs feel good, even had a bit of bounce in them.

    Easy 2 Hour Cycle

    Last Sunday for a while where I don't have a long run planned so I opted for something different. Got the bike out and revisited 20M of the DCM course. Crisp and chilly. Glad I wore gloves, should also have worn a second pair of socks. Enjoy the novelty of cycling around town and observing the course without any pain. Marathons are long! It seems to last forever. I get a better feel for the course profile on the bike. Was stuck for time so couldn't do the full 26.2 but I might try fit it in over the next week or so, I have a handful of days off. Also gave me even more reason to be blown away by Kipchoge's recent feat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Raheny 2020 Week 1

    This week saw me return to training. 10 weeks of work and one week of taper. Nothing too strenuous to start with as I'm sure DCM is still working its way out of my system.

    Easy 4.16M @ 8:17

    An easy lunchtime run last Monday to open my Raheny account. Windy outside. Legs are ok. Not as much bounce as on Saturday, probably due to Sunday's cycle.

    MLR 14.23M @ 7:53

    Had Tuesday off. Dropped Junior Outforarun to school and set off on a midweek MLR. Felt like exploring. Headed for the Quays before turning up towards Phibsboro and Glasnevin. Used work in Dublin Industrial Estate 12 years ago so ran past old office. The ran River Road to work my way round to Ashtown. I won't be running here again, narrow country road used by hurried drivers looking for a shortcut. Far too bendy and dangerous. Canal to Castleknock then Whites Road back into the Park. Take in Chapelizod Hill on way back home. Legs a bit heavy for most of this one, but pace was faster than it felt which is always a positive.

    Tempo 4 Miles

    Ok this was the proper return to training and it felt like it. Had yesterday off so another school-drop and run. Back to the park and I warm up until the North-Road, Chesterfield, Phoenix loop. 4 miles of tempo is a little over 2 laps of this loop. Legs had felt heavy, cold and numb on warm-up and didn't feel much better at tempo pace. Felt like a train getting up to speed. Probably have put on some kilos in the last 2 and a bit weeks, felt sluggish and no responsiveness in the legs. But I got it done all the same. Felt closer to race pace than tempo pace. Happy to tick this one off. Will repeat next week, where hopefully it'll feel a little less demanding.

    8.86M @ 7:32 with 4.00M @ 6:22


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Easy 3 Miles

    Popped out earlier this evening for an easy 3 miler. I want to try maintain consistency and run at least 5 days a week. Was on single-dad duty most of today so only got out in the evening. Cold outside. Two pairs of gloves, wore a jacket and kept hood up for this. Legs felt fine as I tip around a lap of the neighbourhood, Kilmainham - Inchicore - SCR - Heuston - Kilmainham.

    3.39M @ 8:46


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Long Run 16 Miles

    Bit of a busy week as I work my last few days for current company. Need to catch-up on here.

    First week of Raheny training ended last Sunday with a 16 miler with overpronator and the Donore crew. Double gloved on a crisp November morning. Lots of 'what's next for you?' type discussions as we tip around the usual route. As the sun rises it becomes a perfect morning for running. Seems like all the DCM runners are back out in force again, lots of groups around. The legs feel mostly ok maybe felt I was travelling a little faster than I actually was. Longest run since DCM, no hint of fade at the end.

    The last few miles it's just overpronator and I. Discussing 2020 goals. I think I need to resurrect mine from the start of this year: at least 2 from a 17:XX 5K, a 37:XX 10K, a sub 85 HM and an in control sub 3:10 in DCM20 and I won't be unhappy with 2020.

    Total 16.43M @ 7:49


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    is that a 1min pb in the marathon? Get out of it


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Easy 5 Miles

    Second week in and first hurdle to navigate, a head-cold. Mostly in the head but threatening to get to the chest a bit. Feel a bit muffled. I get out Tuesday evening for a simple, well wrapped up 5 miler around my doorstep 5 mile route. I had planned on running a 10x400 session tonight but opted against it, prefering to postpone to later in the week when hopefully I feel better. Legs at least feel ok.

    Total 5.03M @ 8:24

    5x400 + 2M Tempo

    Wondered if 10x400 on Thursday morning followed by a 4M Tempo on Saturday morning would be too much too close together. Idea occured to me to 'join' the sessions together, run just 5x400 and run just 2M tempo. Do this both Thursday and Saturday. On paper this seemed very palatable.

    On paper and on the North Road - Chesterfield - Phoenix loop are two very different things. Ran this yesterday morning and it was tough. I have to acknowledge though that I am sicker than I thought. Effort was high. I probably hacked and spat out the weight of a small mouse on this session. It was been a long time since I ran 400s. These were testing. I wasn't checking the splits but was running at what I hoped was sub 85 second pace. These are off a minute's recovery, less generous than the lazy 65 seconds 200m recovery on the track. The loop is designed for this session I start and finish at the bollards by the Phoenix.
    I was so thankful that the last 400 was mostly downhill. These were tough, I have a lot of work to do to come anywhere close to PBing in Raheny.

    Only 60secs between the 400s and the 2M tempo. The first mile of the tempo feels good. I need to put the brakes on after the 400s. But the second mile of the tempo lap quickly becomes tricky. Legs tiring. Even running the last stretch downhill doesn't provide much relief. Very happy to finish this, back at bollards. One lap for the 400s, one lap tempo, perfect loop for the session.

    Tired legs on my cool down home. Really not sure I'll run this again on Saturday.

    Average 400 was in the 84s
    Average Tempo pace was 6:22, covering 2M in 12:45, exactly same pace as last week's 4M Tempo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    is that a 1min pb in the marathon? Get out of it

    At least 2 😉

    My my standards (1 second PB in 2017) thats huge

    Too soon though to set a marathon target. Get Cork HM under my belt first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    Another catch up post. Week 2 of Raheny training continued with me nursing the tailend of a head cold that had moved to chest.

    MLR 12 Miles @ 8:08
    Mid morning, chilly, heavy sky run. Legs felt heavy and tired for most of this one. I ran my old 12 mile route taking Inchicore, Chapelizod, Tower Road, back into the Park, Acres, S-bends, out at Park Gate and home. Bit of a chore but as I aim to up my weekly mileage I'm to tick off another midweek MLR.

    Easy 7M with 5M Trail and Grass @ 9:10
    No session today, still don't feel well enough. I put on the Dynafits and head for the park. Its wet, muddy and chilly. Cut across Acres, turn through heavy mud as I head toward Furze. Back near the Khyber I cross paths with the Donore Saturday session. I'm told 'You should be here'. I will be soon aim to sign up latest in early January.

    Long Run 16 Miles @ 7:47
    Brought week 2 to a close by revisiting the middle section of DCM. I'll do this a bit more often simply to build up familiarity with the course profile. The Crumlin Road drag is uninviting at any sort of pace. On a whim I pop into Bushy Park just to explore a little. Nice spot, pity it's so far from home. Continue along route until Clonskeagh Road where I turn left for home. Decent 48+ miles logged for the week, will hopefully manage a proper session next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,143 ✭✭✭outforarun


    So last week I started a new job. Would turn out to be short-lived, more of that later.

    Easy 7.5M @ 8:19
    Finished work around 6, just a few hundred metres south of the runway at the airport. Into gear and bag on back. A little unsure how suitable the route would be, would there be footpath the whole way? Answer was yes and the route is fine. Straight run down Ballymun Road into Phibsboro and down to the quays. Turn right for Kilmainham. Run is mostly downhill. A bit busy with pedestrians around Phibsboro. Bar cycling, running would prove to easily be the quickest way home. I hadn't realised just how broken Dublin traffic is.

    MLR 13.45 Miles with 4M Tempo
    This was a testing midweek run. Ran my new commute home. Dropped my bag in the door and headed to Chapelizod Road. Found a new bounce in my step once I ditched the bag. Plan was to run 3M at tempo up and down the Chapelizod Road, at the last moment I decided I'd give 4M a go.

    Pretty much a mile neat from Islandbridge Gate to Chapelizod Gate. Twice out, twice back. The runs back toward town are for sure the easier. I don't enjoy the 180 turns at the end of each stretch, very disruptive to any rhythm I build up. Tempo pace (6:18 to 6:26) doesn't come easy tonight, started slow and gradually pick it up. Almost 8M running with a bag on my bag is probably not the best prelude to a tempo run. Not surprised to see average tempo pace on the slow side of target range, 6:25. Happy to finish and happy to have ticked two boxes with one run, session and midweek, MLR.

    Easy 7.5 Miles @ 8:59
    Another commute home last Friday. Don't enjoy the bag on my back. Remind myself this is better than being stuck in traffic. Legs without any great zip this evening.

    8x400s in 85s
    First proper fast session since my cold had passed. Headed over to the Park for this one. Didn't feel brave enough to try 10x400 so opted for 8x400 instead. I ran these anti-clockwise around the playing fields. One minute recovery between each 400. I didn't feel fast and so to avoid stressing over pace I didn't check the Garmin throughout, I just concentrated on keeping the effort honest.

    Splits leave a lot of room for improvement: 88, 84, 84, 87, 87, 86, 84, 81. That's an average pace of 3:32min/km or 5:42min/mile. One positive I take is that I know I could have run 10x400 if required. I'll repeat this session next Saturday and aim to average at least in the 84s instead of 85s. I want to get at least two more speed sessions completed on my own before I jump in on a Donore session.

    Long Run 16M @ 8:10
    Finished week 3 with a 16 miler last Sunday. I want to try establish 16 Miles as my shortest Sunday distance. I fancied some sea air so ran some beach sections along Sandymount. Looped back toward town at Booterstown. Near the Radisson I ran up Foster's Avenue. Followed the Dodder to Milltown. Checked out the fantasy properties along Orwell Park. Through Rathgar to the canal then through Rialto and home. From mile 11 I was getting low battery alerts from the Garmin so this encouraged me to up the pace for the last 6 miles. Increase in pace felt fine.

    A solid if unspectacular 50+ mile week with a tempo session and a set of 400s thrown in. Need to build on this and keep momentum and mileage going.


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    So in terms of my work situation. Life lesson learned, if you are not unhappy at work, produce good work, your work is valued, you have strong nurtured working relations, a good weekly routine, have friends in the workplace and are not actively looking for change; then don't leave! I'll be happily dusting down my Athlone running routes.

    Easy 7.6M @ 8:41
    Run home from work on Tuesday evening. Legs felt heavy and bag felt heavy. Thoughts were largely dedicated to my work situation. Home around 45mins earlier than if I used public transport and I managed a trip to the supermarket.

    Tempo 4M
    Having successfully navigated some delicate calls to management and HR I get out yesterday for a tension releasing 4 mile tempo. I head to the park for this one and target the North Road - Chesterfield - Old Lamp Road loop. On my warm-up I grow increasingly concerned about the winds that are blowing. I start the tempo section at the bollards at the start of Old Lamp. Pace immediately feels easy. Only when I turn onto North Road do I realise I had a tail-wind helping me out. As I gradually follow the curve around North Road I turn more and more into a strong strong headwind. I'm leaning in and lungs are working at VO2Max intensity. Feel like I'm being forced down to walking pace. I anticipate not hitting target pace for the 4 Miles. Huge relief when I turn onto Chesterfield. Half way down I'm pleasantly surprised to see 3:58 [6:23] pace showing, felt I was moving much slower. By the time I turn left by the Phoenix I'm travelling at 3:56 [6:19] pace.

    Try to enjoy the tailwind while it lasts. This tempo feels more like an interval session where the intervals are into the North Road wind tunnel and the recoveries are tempo pace. Lungs working hard, form dreadful as I battle the winds. Grind my way to the top of North Road and then start a revovery back down Chesterfield.

    This felt tough but happily at 3:56 [6:20] average pace and despite the conditions, this was faster than last time out. Pleased with outcome.

    Easy 4 Miles @ 9:01
    So I'm unemployed until Monday week ��. Daytripped to Cork today. Out of the station I ran 4 miles to Glanmire. I really dislike running with bag on back. Legs not very lively today (was bouncing about quite a bit at a gig last night).
    Weather at least was nice. Hill at the end ensured the pace dropped back over 9:00 minute miles.


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    8x400m in 83s

    Headed over to the playing fields on a windy Saturday morning. Runners warming-up ahead of Jingle Bells. I opt to run these 400s back and forth along the southern path. The odd numbered intervals are tailwind assisted, while for the even numbered ones instead I need to lean-in.

    Like last time out I decide not to check splits until the end. Goal is to improve on last week's 85s. Having other runners to shoot past helps. The first 200ms of each interval are manageable, the next 100 I start to work a bit and the final 100 are hard work. The intervals into the wind I'm not enjoying. On the final 400 I am very thankful that I don't have a 5K to race in the next few minutes.

    I achieve my goal, splits were as follows: 82, 83, 83, 84, 83, 85, 82, 84. Averaging in the 83s. Next time out I'll try to improve on this. After that it'll be time to join Donore for a session.

    Watch at the JB finishing line to see the winners sprint through. Quite a few runners going 14:XX, impressive to see. Chat with OP, AmK, Ivory Tower and healy1835 afterwards. All logging good times despite tricky conditions. AmK was thrilled to have beaten me!

    Tip home afterwards along the tow-path. Resolving to run a Parkun over the coming weeks.


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    Long Run 16 Miles

    Got out later than planned for this one and so only had 2hrs to play with. Wanted to hit 16 anyway so this one would be a bit faster than usual. I'd need to stay fast side of 7:30 pace. I decide again to follow the middle section of DCM. First mile felt faster than the 7:48 I posted. I always start slowly so nothing to worry about. Up the neverending Crumlin drag and despite the climb I log a 7:14. Ok try to ease up a tiny bit and settle in.

    I unintentionally deviate from the DCM route, the streets all look the same round here. I don't turn onto Cromwellsfort Street and then I turn onto Wainsfort Road. I'm lost but happy to enjoy some wind assisted downhill and curious to see where I come out. Get some feedback from right knee as I resume running after a traffic light stop. Takes half a mile to run it off. I arrive into Harolds Cross. Swing 180 and head for Rathgar, Orwell Park, Milltown, Donnybrook. Turn toward town and follow the SCR home. I've been noting splits as I go and know that I'm travelling a little faster than needed, close enough to marathon pace.

    I finish my run well inside 2 hours, logging over 16 miles. Travelled at 7:14 pace and logged two 6:5X miles. Felt fine, only felt I was working when it was uphill and/or into the wind.

    Total 16.19M @ 7:14


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    Into my 5th week of Raheny training already and I don't feel I've really pushed myself yet. Toughest moments so far have been the Wind Tunnel sections of my 4M tempo around the North Road. I need to introduce some sharper speed sessions and suspect that this is where Donore will come in.

    Easy 5 Miles
    Tired legs Monday as I run an easy 5 miles through the park. Sun's out and it's not toooo windy. Full of the joys as a full week off work stretches out in front of me.

    Total 5.29M @ 8:35

    Easy 8 Miles
    At the time it seemed very comfortable but clearly Sunday's 16 miler took more out of the legs than I'd realised. Felt heavy for most of this one. The right knee protested again for a few hundred metres. Up Knockmaroon and into the Park at Whites Gate. Some very very strong winds about today. Got absolutely soaked in the last half mile. Rain was painful if you looked it face-on.

    Total 8.05M @ 8:17

    It's the season and I'm out Thursday and Saturday night this week. May need to run my long (longest) run on Friday instead of Sunday. Need to see how this would affect a Saturday speed session.


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    Tempo 3x2M

    Two Thursday's ago headed to the playing fields for another tempo run. I wanted to increase the overall tempo mileage so planned 6 miles in total split into 3 blocks of 2 miles with 2 minutes of active recovery between blocks.

    Overall this went better than expected. The first block was in a way the toughest as I adjusted to tempo pace. To run 2M around the playing fields you run a full lap plus around 600m. First block was net uphill as it ended with an additional ascent up Acres. Completed in 12:41 (6:20 min/mile). The second block was net downhill with two descents down toward the Fort but I kept the pace consistent and logged a second 12:41. The usual headwind is at play blowing from Acres towards the Fort. This is easily the hardest part of the lap and the final 2M block features nearly two full runs along here. All the same I log my fastest split with a 12:38 (6:18 min/mile).

    Pleased with this run and toying with the idea of running this again in January with 4x2M.

    Easy 8 Miles

    Back to the park after Friday morning school drop. Just an easy anticlockwise lap with a detour through the Furry Glen to avoid the works on the Upper Glen Road. Nice morning. Legs feeling a bit heavy though. Last Sunday's 16 miler, and every run since, there have been a few 100ms to run with a twinge in my right knee. I notice it usually occurs on downhill stretches and usually occurs after 3 or 4 miles of running. After a few 100ms it passes.

    Total 8.11M @ 8:33

    8x400m in 84s

    In the Park again last Saturday for a repeat of the previous Saturday's 8x400m session. Would run this back and forth along the Acres to Fort stretch, between the bottom of Acres and the first copse of trees. The strong headwind defined this run. The 400s with the tailwind were almost like extended recovery against the 400s into the headwind. The real work was done in the final 200ms of each headwind 400, lungs and legs working while I try to maintain some semblance of decent running form. Happy to complete this one. Hard to make comparisons with previous 8x400 sessions given the conditions. Splits were:

    1:21.54
    1:25.55
    1:22.88
    1:27.25
    1:22.15
    1:27.93
    1:22.75
    1:26.60

    Average with tailwind = 1:22.33 (3:26 min/km 5:31 min/mile)
    Average with headwind = 1:26.83 (3:37 min/km 5:49 min/mile)
    Average overall = 1:24.58 (3:31 min/km 5:40 min/mile)

    Easy 3+ Miles

    Late night at friend's for a Christmas Dinner. Home gone 2am. I knew it would be a late one and knew in advance that I wouldn't be running a long run on Sunday. Got out for a very short very easy fresh air run. Mostly just to ensure I logged over 40 miles for the week.

    Total 3.66M @ 8:49


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    Easy 5 Miles (5.36M @ 9:02)

    Started the week with a chilly 5 miler two Tuesday nights ago. Legs were heavy and I felt sluggish. First mile at 9:43 was maybe the slowest of the year.

    Progression 12 Miles (12.43M @ 7:22)

    Back in Athlone, back on the old routes. Didn't fancy the track after work, but wanted to log some mileage and do some sort of work. I put together a progression run on the Garmin, decided on 12 miles divided into 4 blocks of 3 miles; targeting 3 miles at 3:29 marathon pace, 3 miles at 3:19, 3 miles at 3:09 and 3 miles at 2:59 pace.

    Each block follows a pattern where I start a little too slowly, need to work a little to find target pace and then spend the final half of the block trying to slow down. My loop brings me up past the AIT track past Ericcson, turn for town at Cornamaddy National School, climb up and then down the N55 and into town, past the Sheraton and then follow the Old Dublin Road back out to AIT. Least favourite part of this loop is the initial drag along the Old Dublin Road, favourite part is the drop down toward town on the N55. Complete 2 laps of this. And then while running the final block at sub 3:00 pace I run a smaller loop from AIT to Cartrontroy, down Killyon Hill and back onto the Dublin Road.

    The final 3 miles at sub 3:00 pace were very manageable. Pleased with this and happy to be back on Athlone roads.

    3.00M @ 7:45 (3:23 MP)
    3.00M @ 7:32 (3:17 MP)
    3.00M @ 7:13 (3:09 MP)
    3:00M @ 6:44 (2:56 MP)

    Easy 5 Miles (5.06M @ 8:42)

    Arrived back in Dublin from Athlone Friday night and threw on runners straight away, headed out for another 5 easy miles around my doorstep 5 mile loop. Good mood this evening knowing that I would be working only 1.5 of the next 10 days. Bounce in my step. Ran the loop anti-clockwise for a change, unintentionally ran each mile a little faster than the previous.

    8x400m in 82s

    Headed over to the Playing Fields on the shortest day of the year. If the wind isn't too strong I'm happy to stick to the southern path for these, the one from the Fort to Acres. Running 400s in alternating directions. I start closer to Acres, but move to the Fort end as deer start to encroach (people feeding them, despite the signs). These felt tough. I remember after intervals 3 and 4 thinking it's just one of those days, my splits will be poor and I had little appetite for 8 of these. I stick with it and try to stay honest, running to effort. I am convinced that I am running slower than recent attempts. So when I get home and check my splits I'm very happy to see that it's the fastest set of these that I've run since I started them a few weeks back.

    1:22.39
    1:22.92
    1:20.90
    1:22.68
    1:23.90
    1:21.69
    1:23.92
    1:22.45

    Average 400 in 1:22.61 (3:26 min/km, 5:32 min/mile)

    I think this compares favourably with my 10x400 sessions around a year ago on the track in AIT. I think the track is more forgiving than the Playing Fields, and I know that my 200m recovery on the track would drift some seconds over the strict 60 seconds I allow myself in the park.

    MLR 13+ Miles

    Beautiful morning last Sunday. I'd been out late on Saturday night, pool and beer, didn't get home until after 2:00am. Head wasn't too bad on Sunday morning, and after a few miles running in fresh air under blue skies I was feeling good, legs, head and spirits.

    Opted to follow the water on this one. Ran to Inchicore and joined the canal at Blackhorse. Followed it to town; Dolphins' Barn, Portobello, Baggot Street, to Grand Canal Dock. Head toward Irishtown before swinging left over the East Link and then heading back along the Liffey to town, out to Heuston and on to Chapelizod. Then follow the tow path back to Islandbridge and home. I like this route, a lot of variety along the way and on a sunny morning I feel a bit like a running tourist checking out the city and it looks well.

    Total 13.44 @ 8:04

    That was week 6. I still don't feel like I'm on a proper training block, I think this is mostly because week by week I'm making it up as I go. Hope to apply a bit more structure after Raheny and have a plan laid out in advance. Will need to see how to marry any plan with Donore sessions as well.


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    This week is feeling a bit like a recovery week as training meets Christmas.

    Easy 8 Miles (8.36M @ 8:38)

    Logged off after a half-day at work and shortly afterwards get into gear to head out on my first run of week 7 and first proper Christmas run. Start with a downhill to Heuston and then enter the Park at Park Gate and run a full ascent of Chesterfield. Legs feeling ok. Exit at Castleknock Gate and continue to Myo's. Turn left and enjoy the descent back down to Chapelizod. Continue along Chapelizod Road to Islandbridge and turn for home. Over the last two or three miles my right hip protests a bit, hope this passes. Follow this run with an evening of mulled wine at neighbours.

    Lap of Playing Fields at 5K Pace

    I'm on cooking duty today so don't wait too long before heading out on this Christmas day run. I've noticed that over the last few weeks my sessions, tempo and interval, have fallen on Thursdays and Saturdays. I want to change this so that they return to a more familiar Wednesday and Saturday pattern. I think my body is happier with two days between sessions than a solitary day. So I find myself on Christmas Day looking to run a session. I've run very little at Raheny race pace so opt for a simple race pace session, just to develop some familiarity with what I hope to sustain on race day.

    For Raheny I'm not expecting miracles, I'm not in the same form now as I was this time last year. If I can hold high 3:4X pace I will be happy. Holding 3:49 [6:08] pace equates to a 30:42 finishing time. I warm-up along the tow path to Chapelizod then head up to the Playing Fields. I was a little concerned about the underfoot conditions, but the path around the Playing Fields is far far less slippy than the tow path. I target one lap at 3:4X pace. I don't really care if it's 3:40 pace or 3:49 pace. Faster 3:4X paces will be a tester ahead of a Parkrun that I'm targeting next week, while a slower 3:4X pace will be an early taste of what lies ahead in Raheny.

    I complete the lap; legs tired but could have continued for a while longer if needed. Overall the lap is in the comfortably uncomfortable category. I log 1.59M [2.56K] at 5:59 [3:43] pace. Hold this pace for twice as long and I will have an 18:3X 5K or a 29:5X Raheny. Overall I'm happy enough with this, it's been a while since I last tried to maintain this pace for this long.

    Gentle jog home before settling into the kitchen for the rest of the morning.

    MLR 10.17M @ 8:12

    Out late morning on Stephen's Day for a 10 Miler. Legs are good and I don't feel any feedback from the right hip. Don't look at the Garmin throughout, I just hold easy pace for the full 10 miles. Run takes in an ascent of Knockmaroon and a descent down through the park where the deer are out in force along Chesterfield.

    Easy 6+ Miles (6.50M @ 8:01)

    Flew to Italy last night. Out early enough this morning for an easy run around Bergamo. Crisp dry weather, not too cold, a gorgeous pink glow on the high town as the sun rises. Quite a few runners out this morning. My run includes two laps of the walls of Bergamo Alto. I do feel the effort rise and the lungs working harder in the cold air as I navigate some ascents. Enjoy this one. Back to hotel in time for a buffet breakfast.

    (signed up for Raheny)


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    2 x Short Hill Climb

    Wore three layers on top and two pairs of gloves (with a mitten pouch) for this morning's run. Up in Roncobello for a first ever winter run. Stepped outside and thought, it's not thaaat cold, I shouldn't have believed the hype.

    I warm-up with a run down to Baresi, then turn to start my first of two Baresi - Capovalle ascents. Suddenly it feels cold, there is a light but bitterly cold wind coming down the mountains. Legs feel good and unlike in the summer my lungs don't seem to be struggling to adjust to the altitude, but the cold instead is stinging. My ears start to burn. My right-hand has always been hyper sensitive to the cold and by the time I reach Capovalle it is hurting. The ascent time is better than I expected, I log a 21:10.

    I descend back down to Baresi and this gives my hand some respite. Turn at the church in Baresi and begin my second ascent of the morning. Within the first 200m the chill wind is cutting into my hand again. Legs continue to perform well, as do the lungs. Focus moves more and more to my right hand. I try clinching and unclinching fist to keep it moving, I try putting it behind my back. By the time I get to Capovalle again (logging a very acceptable 20:36, my third fastest ascent ever) I have lost nearly all sensation in it.

    When I head into shower afterwards it takes over 10 minutes before I can start to move it normally. without any stinging soreness. I suspect it is a circulation issue of some sort with the right hand, by left hand is chilled but not in any way uncomfortable. I need to try find a really good pair of gloves.

    Apart form the frozen hand I'm happy with the morning's run. Went for a hike up over the snowline in the late morning and afternoon so a good active day.


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