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The Defender thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    Thanks Sean
    I think I am more confused than ever
    Its so hard to get an older clean Defender that hasnt been daily hauling a cattle trailer to marts and factories with 4 tonne of beef on board or ex building site never serviced
    An 08 has the obvious benefits but there seems a to be a lot of negatives about Puma

    there is clean Td5's out there just keep looking , my one is 2004 and came off a farm look at the pics of it a few pages back its fairly clean for its age 55000 miles on it when i bought it , i got it of Donnelly Bros in Dungannon , northern ireland is your best bet , when i was looking for mine i looked at a 2004 td5 in the south and it was about 5k more then the one i bought in the north and the one i bought was way cleaner , shop around you'll get a good one yet , took me 2-3months of trolling the net and looking in papers and going to look at rough ones to fine my one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    They occaisionally surface on the Ireland section of the LRA forum, invariably in the north. Some people south of the border have a strange idea of what's good condition and an inflated idea of value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    many thanks for all the helpful advice folks


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭DF1


    Just a bit of topic,
    I have condensation problems on the roof of my 110.
    Any ideas on a cure, I see a crowd in UK doing new head lining to go from front to back but dont really want to go down this route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    DF1 wrote: »
    Just a bit of topic,
    I have condensation problems on the roof of my 110.
    Any ideas on a cure, I see a crowd in UK doing new head lining to go from front to back but dont really want to go down this route.

    i have the same problem , loads of people stick really thin black carpet on it kinda like the stuff ya see in schools and offices


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Black car trim or carpet either stuck on or on a ply lining is the usual route. My CSW has a full lining but you still get condensation above it, it's currently a shade of mouldy green, no point in cleaning until the weather dries up.

    The ultimate cure for condensation is a full canvas top!! No condensation in my 101.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    Am i landrover man myself,
    Have a 87 defender with a disco 200tdi engine fitted. Only just picked it up have a little cosmetic work to do. When thats done ill start fitting my few mods. 2" lift, Front and rear radius arms, Front and rear discolation cones, Full polybush kit, 35" simex, And a warn 8274 winch. Previously i had a disco running 35" Bf muds with a 2inch lift..

    If any of you are interested in off roading check out
    www.clri.net
    Irelands only land rover club.
    Monthly off roading events held.. Or for more info PM me...
    Cheers

    Old Discovery
    29bh5ya.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    What carpet or insulation material is recommended to supress the sound of chips and stones flying and hitting the body
    Sounds like you were hit by a 22 bullet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Is yours a fairly new one, seen your posts elsewhere? If you want a clean and tidy job, best bet is load area matting from Exmoor Trim http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=66&Itemid=90 (near bottom of page)

    A diy option is heavy rubber matting and cut it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    Thanks for that
    2009 Defender
    A trip to WW next week


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    Anyone know exactly what model this is?

    kkairfield_20100214_0027.jpg

    Taken from here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    FJ Bates of Evesham for Northern Ireland Fire Brigade http://www.iacservices.co.uk/landrover/s3fc/liamsfireenginepage.htm

    Similar to the more common Carmichael Redwing. Built on a standard Series 3 one ton 109 chassis rather than a forward control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    sean your like a walking Landrover encyclopedia :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    101sean wrote: »
    Built on a standard Series 3 one ton 109 chassis
    :eek:

    I bet it didn't half wobble on corners!

    Sligo Co Co have a defender as a fire wagon, the cousin is a part time fireman and says it is a danger on the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    The Army Fire Service IIB forward controls would have been even worse on corners.
    sean your like a walking Landrover encyclopedia

    Well yes, I probably should get out more!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭roman0red


    Evening all,
    just came across this thread yesterday and was interested to read the various posts. All very interesting. I purchased a 2003 TD5 CrewCab Hardtop last August - my mid life crisis vehicle - great fun though! :). I had a 300TDI SWB previously.

    Question for the experts - I'm about to do a full service and was considering buying the service kit and Lube from Difflock in the UK - Anyone used the EVO oil - expensive I know and some would say "fools and their money..." but the Landy is my only vice hence my desire to treat it with "some luv". So anyone tried the Difflock stuff?

    Secondly, I've been reading a lot of the UK forums and was considering the EGR removal trick to improve performance - any advice on whether this is a good or bad idea for a TD5?

    Also, planning on "pimping it" up a tad so was thinking of waiting until the Summer to travel across to the the Billings show in July to pick up some show bargains? Anyone been to one - what are they like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Difflock are good but shop around, you can get all the filters from a decent auto factors. I use Paddocks in the UK a lot but order OEM filters rather than generic, I assume you know i has 2 oil filters, a normal one and a centrifugal.

    I've used EVO oil in the gearbox, good stuff but any quality MTF94 will work, ATF Dexron II isn't recommended in R380 gearboxes. Bog standard 80W90 is fine in the Tbox and diffs.

    Definitely remove the EGR, feckin stupid idea putting dirty exhaust back in he engine. I think yours will also have a cat in the front downpipe, worth putting on a plain downpipe. I have also removed the centre silencer on mine, it all makes a slight difference and won't be picked up in NCT/DOE. If you want to go mad and get a retune, you'd need to do all this first anyway.

    It's definitely worth going to one of the LR shows once, you'll find some great bargains. The LRW show is probably the smallest but freindliest, no longer do them myself, military is my scene these days. Billing was the original LR show home but got a poor reputation for facilities, theft, pikeys etc, supposedly improved last year. If you've never been to one before you'll love it first time round at least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭roman0red


    Thanks Sean,
    I dont think you'll get much better than £16 for the complete set of filters? Mind you they wont be OEM! Anyway, I'll have a look at Paddocks.

    Thanks for your tip on the EGR - will definitwely go ahead and remove it - also found another tip from another forum about cleaning the sensor on the intake manifold (MAS/MAB?). Appearantly when cleaned it can make a huge differenece?

    Anyhowsss.....thanks for the tip and I'll keep an eye on this thread for any additional info.

    Chers!


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭roman0red


    ....MAP! Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    I have a question..

    Why are the Defenders ignition on the LHS of the steering column and have they always been there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Roman, It's a combined inlet air pressure and temp sensor, they can get mucky but usually aren't a problem.

    They've alsways been on the left, no idea why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    Slidey wrote: »
    I have a question..

    Why are the Defenders ignition on the LHS of the steering column and have they always been there?

    I would imagine its due to lack of space on the left.:confused::confused: No idea otherwise............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    will an 09 Defender Ford Puma engine run on vegetable oil/bio fuel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    will an 09 Defender Ford Puma engine run on vegetable oil/bio fuel

    yes and no , you will need a conversion kit at it won't run on a 100% mix , newer cars just don't take good to it anyway i'd stay away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Agreed, don't think there are any modern common rail diesels that will run on it. Manufacturers websites will mostly say no but that's usually covering their backsides.

    There are some very good websites in the UK where brewing your own is common that cover what will safely run on bio diesel or SVO. Mate of mine does it properly with used chip fat and produces very clean bio diesel for his truck and older Land Rover but can't use it in his Toyota Avensis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    if you get a re-map can you do it ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    No. It's due to the lubricity of diesel which bio or SVO may not have and it's effect on the injectors and other high pressure components.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    If ye look back to page 2 of this thread I was in the market for a defender.

    Bit of a login snarfu getting on here - old email addresses etc... anyways.

    I've been a (very) proud Defender owner now for nearly a month.

    Managed to pick up a 2002 110 hard top from the North at a pretty good price. 52000 miles on it and drives really well - chassis excellent but the body is a bit dented. For me it's good where it matters.

    Must say, it really is something else to drive. It's loud like a Boeing but still one of the most relaxed drives ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    Congrats dude, may you wear it well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    Thanks for that slidey!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Nice one, post a pic, dents and all!


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    Piccie as requested.

    I think I'll be able to hammer out the dents on the front wing. The scratches are pretty deep so I'm not sure what to do with them yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    A few scars add character!

    By the time you get to the inside of the wing to get at the dent, you may as well put a new one on, you can just replace the outer. If you do go dent knocking, Birmabright work hardens after a while and you'll have to anneal it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    I'm not looking to do a perfect job. Just straighten it a bit, have noticed it's a bit harder than I expected though as I was knocking out another one. Don't want to change the whole panel though, don't want to have to do painting and finding one in the right colour without any dents will be close to impossible. A few good knocks with the pursuador and it'll be grand. Will still need to find a rear door in the right colour - i've a drop down tail gate and prefer a door.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    I had one on my wing in the same spot abelt not as bed though. Take off the wheel arch and you will be able to get your hand in push it out or use a a block of wood and a few wee taps...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    What was the damage dantastic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    skelliser wrote: »
    What was the damage dantastic?

    :confused::confused::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    lol, the damage to his pocket!


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    hehehe, the damage was £5.5k with a few bits to do. A few dents, it really needed to be cleaned out inside (Not just a bit of a clean - it took 3 full days) and I still need to put in new seats.

    At the end of the day I'm well chuffed as she drives nicely and she's very clean underneath. Ex UK utility company truck.

    If you're looking then the North is your best bet - the trucks are few and far between down here and they tend to be pretty expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    Any recommendations on a competent LR garage to do a hand brake seal recall
    Also very heavy clutch and notchy gear change


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    Any recommendations on a competent LR garage to do a hand brake seal recall
    Also very heavy clutch and notchy gear change

    where are you located ,
    the heavy clutch and notchy gear change sounds normal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    Roscommon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭TM RACING


    Defenders must be the worst thing ever made, british engineering at its best. They have been making them for 60 odd years and they are still heaps of c**p. OK, the are gerat off-road but so is a tractor and a tractor is faster snd more dependabel and more economical and nicer to drive. I heard there is talk of Landrover phasing out the current Defender :Dat long last. It just might show defender drivers the light in the form of the IVECO MISSIF;), soon to wipe the floor with the defender, but until it comes on sale in Ireland get some sense and buy a LANDCRUISER.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭PanhardPL


    TM RACING wrote: »
    Defenders must be the worst thing ever made, british engineering at its best. They have been making them for 60 odd years and they are still heaps of c**p. OK, the are gerat off-road but so is a tractor and a tractor is faster snd more dependabel and more economical and nicer to drive. I heard there is talk of Landrover phasing out the current Defender :Dat long last. It just might show defender drivers the light in the form of the IVECO MISSIF;), soon to wipe the floor with the defender, but until it comes on sale in Ireland get some sense and buy a LANDCRUISER.:D

    What experience have you regarding Land Rovers, have you ever owned one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭elius


    TM RACING wrote: »
    Defenders must be the worst thing ever made, british engineering at its best. They have been making them for 60 odd years and they are still heaps of c**p. OK, the are gerat off-road but so is a tractor and a tractor is faster snd more dependabel and more economical and nicer to drive. I heard there is talk of Landrover phasing out the current Defender :Dat long last. It just might show defender drivers the light in the form of the IVECO MISSIF;), soon to wipe the floor with the defender, but until it comes on sale in Ireland get some sense and buy a LANDCRUISER.:D


    Your the type of lad that will never understand a land rover. They have been making defenders since the late 80s before than they where 110-90 series 3 109-88 inch and so on ;);).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭101sean


    Oh dear, here we go again, usual pointless unhelpful sniping.

    Iveco Massif is/was a Santana PS10 which is heavily based on old Land Rover technology, Santana used to build Land Rovers under licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭PanhardPL


    elius wrote: »
    Your the type of lad that will never understand a land rover. They have been making defenders since the late 80s before than they where 110-90 series 3 109-88 inch and so on ;);).

    Guys like him, should go and do a bit of research into the History of Land Rover products, and be the owner of one before he makes stupid comments. Land Rovers have been copied by many other manufacturers and still the LR comes out tops on cross country. Just take the ESB who have had many different makes and models over the years, and have gone back to buying Defenders as they have proven to the best when off road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭Slidey


    Don't feed the troll guys...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭TM RACING


    You can all say what you want but at the end of the day I can be confident in the fact that I can rely on my landcruiser, even if it has 367,000 miles on the clock ,which is something a landrover owner could never do. Give me one good reason why anyone should buy a landrover over a landcruiser, forgetting off road ability as that is down to the driver and tyres as much as it is to the veichle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Deer Hunter DL


    TM RACING wrote: »
    You can all say what you want but at the end of the day I can be confident in the fact that I can rely on my landcruiser, even if it has 367,000 miles on the clock ,which is something a landrover owner could never do. Give me one good reason why anyone should buy a landrover over a landcruiser, forgetting off road ability as that is down to the driver and tyres as much as it is to the veichle.

    its really all about personal choice we could go on all day saying my toy is better than yours , a landrover is good for what its for and a landcruiser is good for what its for

    both 4x4's are really good in their own way
    i really like landcruisers as i am a hardcore toyota fan but i bought a defender because it suited me better for what i do


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