London protests for second Brexit Vote

ancapailldorcha · 22-10-2018 9:48pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Doesn't sound Irish at all. Irish people are relatively well politically engaged.

However it does sound very British. Ignorant ill informed tropery.

I would like to disagree but....

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 22-10-2018 9:51pm

It was idiotic in the first place to put a yes/no vote to referendum when there wasn't a clear two choice option.

The Blasphemy Law Referendum on Friday is a clear yes/no choice. Take it out of the constitution Yes, or leave it in No.

If the British agree to a clear absolute deal to their leaving. Then I think a second referendum can be held because there will be a definitive choice between what Remain and Leave actually mean.

Considering the consequences of the original Brexit Referendum, it should have been a multiple choice on the ballot, and then a further run off. Something like Remain completely/Remain but there must be special concessions for Britain/Leave no matter what/ Leave while making concessions to the EU.

realitykeeper · 22-10-2018 9:53pm

On an aside, David Cameron opted for a simple yes/no referendum. He could have offered a multiple choice referendum giving other options like should they withdraw from the Nice treaty or the Maastrict treaty. They would still be signed up as EEC members. Forcing a simple yes/no choice backfired spectacularly. Unless the UK competes for world trade, they will regret Brexit. I cannot see contemporary Brits competing like they did in the days of empire. Kids will not salvage pallet nails from the Thames or climb up chimneys to clean them out. Maids will not curtsy their masters anymore nor do workers have the stomach for long hours picking oakum. The workhouses are of course gone and there is the costly welfare state to maintain.

I just don`t see Britain competing with China. In any case, without serious competitive practices, tight fiscal discipline and the power of the block that comes with large trading areas, the odds are stacked against them. I still think another referendum would be an affront to democracy though.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 22-10-2018 10:49pm

I love Fintan's thoughts on Brexit.

Akrasia · 23-10-2018 9:50am

Kairi Wrong Ice wrote: »

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So part of your reason for not supporting a 2nd referendum is the threat of violence from the brexiteers if the vote goes against them...

Right. So much for the 'will of the people'

If Brexit happens, the 'skeptics' won't be silenced, they'll be blamed for all the problems caused by brexit itself. It'll be a complete disaster, but rather than Farage and Mogg etc accepting responsibility, they'll start blaming the EU, and May, and the 'soft brexiters' and Ireland, and immigrants, and 'globalists' and whoever else they think they can scapegoat for the problems of their own making.

London protests for second Brexit Vote

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