Bill Gates wants 1 Billion dead.

Kepti wrote: »

Bill Gates should be commended for devoting his time and vast sums of money towards solving world problems. He's actually using his power to improve the lives of millions. This topic is ridiculous.

yekahs wrote: »

What do you think is a viable option to the problem we are faced with? We can barely feed the planet as it is, so how do you propose we solve the problem? We have some hope if we can advance genetically engineered seeds, but let me guess, you are against that too?

We are putting a serious strain on the planet ecologically, which will further excasperate the problem, making more parts of the earth unsuitable for agriculture.

While its hard to see exactly where gates is coming from in a 2 minute clip from an hour long lecture, I would imagine, he is advocating a higher standard of health and education, which the trend shows leads to lower birthrates. That is a fact. The third world countries are spiralling out of control population wise. Its a fact that humanitarian groups need to face up to. All you have to look at s the current crisis in Somalia, since the last major famine there in 1986, they have doubled their population. They do not have nearly enough resources to support that amount.

And before you accuse me of advocating sterilization(as you have said about bill gates), forced or otherwise, I am not in favour of it. Simply implementing incentives to one/two child couples would suffice. As we will never quell our apetite for reproduction, we need to educate people on contraception(including sterilization for anyone who wants it).

Torakx wrote: »

I have been reading that document that was put forward by Kissinger.
For the most part is appears helpful and informative but as we know from the lisbon treaty it can be taken out of context when the actual dynamics of carrying these acts out come into play.

Im a believer in being honest with myself and others so il post al the paragraph im interested in as i may have missed the with holding food part somewhere else in the document.

The part i will highlight is a little confusing for me.The sentence before it sounds like it is contradicting the statement that follows.

"In the extreme cases where population pressures lead to endemic famine, food riot, and
breakdown of social order, those conditions are scarcely conducive to systematic exploration for
mineral deposits or the long-term investments required for their exploitation. Short of famine,
unless some minimum of popular aspirations for material improvement can be satisfied, and
unless the terms of access and exploitation persuade governments and peoples that this aspect of
the international economic order has "something in it for them," concessions to foreign
companies are likely to be expropriated or subjected to arbitrary intervention. Whether through
government action, labor conflicts, sabotage, or civil disturbance, the smooth flow of needed
Materials will be jeopardized. Although population pressure is obviously not the only factor
involved, these types of frustrations are much less likely under conditions of slow or zero
population growth."

Taken from http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf

The parts i highlighted were all in the one sentence and appears to me to be simply saying " Short of famine,.... concessions to foreign
companies are likely to be expropriated or subjected to arbitrary intervention."
But his comments before that sentence say otherwise or am i missing something key here like one of those other big words ^^

Overall the report seems to be focusing on bringing food into developing countries to aid hunger and create a framework for self sustaining countries.
I think i am going to need assistance to find the part where he encourages food scarcity if that is not it.

ps. it just occured to me that maybe it is a good tactic to create more of these issues like a need for food(which these foundations have to offer) to gain access to minerals that the west needs badly.Could it be that that the issue in africa was exacerbated just to create a major need to help to gain access to these resources?

Torakx wrote: »

Im a bit wary of Gm foods.
Dont they use genes from animals insects and other things that are not plant related?
If anyone has article links for explaining why GM foods are safe i really would like to read that.
Its my opinion that something like GM foods where genetics are involved needs about 50+ years of testing before its used in the mainstream.
Isnt it possibl;e there can be adverse effects 100+ years down the line with human dna.
Also the fact you cant reproduce from those specially made seeds is dastardly.I wonder do they give the starving nations these one time only seeds.If so i think that is the hight of greed in an enviornment where people are dying of hunger i really hope that is not the case

Truthrevolution wrote: »

What really gets my goat is people saying that certain vaccines are 100% safe when they are not!