Bill Gates wants 1 Billion dead.

uprising2

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" [About 1 Billion People!]
Bill Gates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s

Just fast forward to 2:30.

Angus Og

I think he means that better health care equals less stress on populations. Populations that are in danger often breed more. Better health care = living longer, which means people feel less pressured to reproduce early.

studiorat

Bill Gates wants 1 billion not born...

fontanalis

I think "Bill Gates wants to eat 1 billion babies" would have been as accurate.

PirateShampoo

Ive argued this before, at some point in the future we are going to hit a critical mass in the human population, and thats when the **** will really hit the fan.

fontanalis

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Ive argued this before, at some point in the future we are going to hit a critical mass in the human population, and thats when the **** will really hit the fan.

What was the name of the fella again, Malthusia or something like that. Basically he said populations grow exponentially but food production grow factorially.
I don't get the idea of population control being bad either.

Undergod

"Reducing the number of people in the world" =/= "killing loads of people."

You can control population size without just murdering vast amount of people.

Mr. Incognito

I'm sure he's talking about contraception and family control broadly under health care.

Rented Mule

Bill Gates wants 1 Billion dead.

Does he take requests ?

uprising2

Angus Og wrote: »

I think he means that better health care equals less stress on populations. Populations that are in danger often breed more. Better health care = living longer, which means people feel less pressured to reproduce early.

I don't understand how you can conclude that by better health care and people living longer will bring future population down by 10%-15%.

studiorat wrote: »

Bill Gates wants 1 billion not born...

Eugenics?

fontanalis wrote: »

I think "Bill Gates wants to eat 1 billion babies" would have been as accurate.

If you just want to add bullsh1t don't bother.

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Ive argued this before, at some point in the future we are going to hit a critical mass in the human population, and thats when the **** will really hit the fan.

Well why don't you and Bill do the right thing and offer your life up to save the planet.

Yitzhak Rabin

1 billion people less being born, is certainly better than alot more than that figure being alive miserable and starving to death.

Undergod

Man, we got to post ten before someone brought up eugenics? That's a bit disappointing, I had expected it earlier.

Well why don't you and Bill do the right thing and offer your life up to save the planet.

Uprising, that's not precisely the point. It's not about killing people, it's about preventing populations from growing further. And that's not eugenics. People having better healthcare will mean they have smaller families, that's the trend in pretty much every industrialized or post-industrial nation.

That said, an ageing population can be very hard to support, so Bill's plan has its own problems.

Angus Og

uprising2 wrote: »

I don't understand how you can conclude that by better health care and people living longer will bring future population down by 10%-15%.

I didn't. I said, that is what he means. It's simple. It's a theory. Isn't everything on this forum?

PirateShampoo

uprising2 wrote: »

Well why don't you and Bill do the right thing and offer your life up to save the planet.

What are you implying?

The human expansion at the speed its on at present isn't sustainable forever. There will come a point where we either colonize other planets on a massive scale or introduce laws on child birth.

Otherwise there will be Famine, disease and wars for land which can be farmed.

fontanalis

uprising2 wrote: »

I don't understand how you can conclude that by better health care and people living longer will bring future population down by 10%-15%.



Eugenics?




If you just want to add bullsh1t don't bother.



Well why don't you and Bill do the right thing and offer your life up to save the planet.

Not adding just compounding. With Eugenics you just jumped the shark

Torakx

I dont know if this "fact" is true or not.I read that at the moment you could take every person on the planet and give them a 1/4 acre each with a house and that would only fill up the space of either australia or one of the states in australia i cant remember exactly.

If this is true then the idea that there are too many humans on the planet is surely bordering on erm.. insane?

I myself dont understand these comments from people who say the world is overpopulated.
I really think its just not managed properly.

Its a bit sad when governments worldwide are responsible for killing and starving people in poor countries and then turn around and say we need to kill a few more because we are too unorganised to fit anyone else in OUR planet.Like they own it...

Im not suggesting we start sending everyone to australia.But If the governments and superstates are running out of resources why not reorganise things to run better?
Oh thats right we are ruled by the bankers and we must wait until they are ready for us to progress along their journey before anything can be allowed to happen.
I would normally consider a world wide organised effort a good thing but not in this system we have at the moment.Any world wide effort i am sure would be headed by the very people putting us in these bad situations with food shortages, massive massive debts from bailouts and loans.

In my opinion the only ways this is going to get sorted is to either have a rebellion(violent or economical) against the bankers and co and attempt to get rid of the fiat money system.Replace it with a gold/silver backed currency.And take back our belongings,ie cars, houses, birth certs,appliances that are registered to the government who actually owns them.Read into it if it sounds ridiculous.

Or Rebel in violence and get the big red button pressed so we can hurtle forward to all out war so they can then get the depopulation they wanted.
And make more money on the side of course.

The way it seems to be going now is everyone is waiting for someone to do something.The government speaks to its citizens, they rely on government for peace of mind because government tells them what they are allowed do with their lives.
Since the majority are blissfully unaware of the eu war machine creeping up on them for recruitment and depopulation on this side of the world,it most likely will happen exactly the way the world rulers want it.Unless ofc 2012 end of the world type event happens.They just have a massive upperhand with resources then.

What i wrote sounds very drastic and enthusiastic indeed.I dont think these events happen over night.I believe they will for the most part if not all i said will happen over a few decades.
The EU will be built up to rival Russia and America/Britain,Asia.
Eventually those superstates will be in conflict or joined worldwide.Between there regular small wars for resource gathering there may be another world war to create work and make money and lower populations a little.

Its a little scary that China have been killing off alot of their females in favour of male children.I read over the last 25 years they have been doing this as well as forcably aborting babies who were not permited to live(i understand the situation is tough in china with population,It is only partly there fault they are killing there own people.imo).Doesnt that mean that China should now have a massive army compared to 25 years ago?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_troops

Ok i dont know if thats massive compared to 25 years ago but China seem to roughly have about the same amount of overall troops as Russia and America put together.

PirateShampoo

Torakx wrote: »

I dont know if this "fact" is true or not.I read that at the moment you could take every person on the planet and give them a 1/4 acre each with a house and that would only fill up the space of either australia or one of the states in australia i cant remember exactly.

If this is true then the idea that there are too many humans on the planet is surely bordering on erm.. insane?

Its Texas.

Its a shame that in a week most of us would die from thirst.

And its not a simple matter of living space, its a matter of food and fresh water. There will be a point where u can feed no more people and fresh water isn't infinite.

Time Magazine

fontanalis wrote: »

What was the name of the fella again, Malthusia or something like that. Basically he said populations grow exponentially but food production grow factorially.

Malthus. And he was wrong - he forgot about technological advances

Nick_oliveri

More water filtration? I always found it strange that with more than half the planet covered in water, people die of thirst. Although I am sure there is good reason why this is a problem. It just seems a bit mad.

namloc1980

uprising2 wrote: »

Bill gates wants 1 billion dead

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent!" [About 1 Billion People!]
Bill Gates.

Just fast forward to 2:30.

Did you even bother to watch the video or is it a copypasta from a CT website?? Talk about sensationalizing the whole thing. :rolleyes: He never said he wanted 1 billion people dead!! You conspiracy guys crack me up.

ShowMeTheCash

Torakx wrote: »

I dont know if this "fact" is true or not.I read that at the moment you could take every person on the planet and give them a 1/4 acre each with a house and that would only fill up the space of either australia or one of the states in australia i cant remember exactly.

If this is true then the idea that there are too many humans on the planet is surely bordering on erm.. insane?

I myself dont understand these comments from people who say the world is overpopulated.
I really think its just not managed properly.

Its a bit sad when governments worldwide are responsible for killing and starving people in poor countries and then turn around and say we need to kill a few more because we are too unorganised to fit anyone else in OUR planet.Like they own it...

Im not suggesting we start sending everyone to australia.But If the governments and superstates are running out of resources why not reorganise things to run better?
Oh thats right we are ruled by the bankers and we must wait until they are ready for us to progress along their journey before anything can be allowed to happen.
I would normally consider a world wide organised effort a good thing but not in this system we have at the moment.Any world wide effort i am sure would be headed by the very people putting us in these bad situations with food shortages, massive massive debts from bailouts and loans.

In my opinion the only ways this is going to get sorted is to either have a rebellion(violent or economical) against the bankers and co and attempt to get rid of the fiat money system.Replace it with a gold/silver backed currency.And take back our belongings,ie cars, houses, birth certs,appliances that are registered to the government who actually owns them.Read into it if it sounds ridiculous.

Or Rebel in violence and get the big red button pressed so we can hurtle forward to all out war so they can then get the depopulation they wanted.
And make more money on the side of course.

The way it seems to be going now is everyone is waiting for someone to do something.The government speaks to its citizens, they rely on government for peace of mind because government tells them what they are allowed do with their lives.
Since the majority are blissfully unaware of the eu war machine creeping up on them for recruitment and depopulation on this side of the world,it most likely will happen exactly the way the world rulers want it.Unless ofc 2012 end of the world type event happens.They just have a massive upperhand with resources then.

What i wrote sounds very drastic and enthusiastic indeed.I dont think these events happen over night.I believe they will for the most part if not all i said will happen over a few decades.
The EU will be built up to rival Russia and America/Britain,Asia.
Eventually those superstates will be in conflict or joined worldwide.Between there regular small wars for resource gathering there may be another world war to create work and make money and lower populations a little.

Its a little scary that China have been killing off alot of their females in favour of male children.I read over the last 25 years they have been doing this as well as forcably aborting babies who were not permited to live(i understand the situation is tough in china with population,It is only partly there fault they are killing there own people.imo).Doesnt that mean that China should now have a massive army compared to 25 years ago?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_troops

Ok i dont know if thats massive compared to 25 years ago but China seem to roughly have about the same amount of overall troops as Russia and America put together.

Look we could fit everyone on the moon too does not mean we could survive on it.

Since the industrial revolution the population of the planet has spiked - The reason for this is mainly due to the fact that we can produce food on a massive scale.

The amount of food the planet produces has a direct impact on the population of the planet.

The planet is like huge battery - we are burning up all the oil as we speak so our ability to produce food in the same manner is likely to either to level out or reduce. The direct result of this is we will not longer be able to support what we once did.

This is pure mathamatics no getting away from it.

Governments are corrupt and greedy. Individuals are smart people are stupid - Nothing you can do about it!

Torakx

I agree.
It isnt about living space its about resources aswell if not more.
Those things can also be fixed if governments werent so busy shooting people and stealing resources.
Instead of encouraging corperate takeovers and big chains that destroy countries economies they could have organised each country alot better to start with.
What happened to all the farmers in ireland?
Did we suddenly start importing food from other countries instead or feeding ourselves?
The governments science department of health and food or whatever in ireland for example have still not educated people to grow there own food,created any incentives to grow your own food or build houses as standard with the ability to grow food indoors.
The water issue may have to be addressed in a few hundred years if the human race eventually gets organised.

Im probably going to get burned bad for this now but cant a person take sea water and boil it evaporating and distilling the condensation to get drinkable water?

I know i am waffling a bit now lol
I just get pissed off at how the world is so messed up and i watch it getting worse and worse not better and better.
I still believe this all stems from the fiat currency we have.Without that greedy people could not have so easily enslaved nations and we might have been able to afford by now a house on every acre in ireland alone from the money extorted from this countries people.

I dont know what Bill Gates ment by saying vaccines may help reduce the population by about 10%.If we live longer and and everyone is peaceful does that mean we wont want to have sex as much in poor countries where there is no means of contraceptive.
I think population control could be an issue in 50 years,but it certainly shouldnt be an issue if the place was run properly to start with.

robtri

wheres the full video, that is only selecting a portion of the whole video and is completely taken out of context as a whole..

PirateShampoo

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

More water filtration? I always found it strange that with more than half the planet covered in water, people die of thirst. Although I am sure there is good reason why this is a problem. It just seems a bit mad.

I have no idea about the science behind it, but im sure at some stage if the population kept expanding we would be taking out more than what was going in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_crisis

http://www.howstuffworks.com/run-out-of-water.htm

What your refering to is Desalination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination which isnt econimical at the moment and its not very environmental friendly as your distroying ocean life forms to do it.

As new technological innovations continue to reduce the capital cost of desalination, more countries are building desalination plants as a small element in addressing their water crises.

• Israel desalinizes water for a cost of 53 cents per cubic meter
• Singapore desalinizes water for 49 cents per cubic meter and also treats sewage with reverse osmosis for industrial and potable use (NEWater).
• China and India, the world's two most populous countries, are turning to desalination to provide a small part of their water needs [
• In 2007 Pakistan announced plans to use desalination
• Australia uses desalination
• In 2007 Bermuda signed a contract to purchase a desalination plant
• The largest desalination plant in the United States is the one at Tampa Bay, Florida, which began desalinizing 25 million gallons (95000 m³) of water per day in December 2007. In the United States, the cost of desalination is $3.06 for 1,000 gallons, or 81 cents per cubic meter. In the United States, California, Arizona, Texas, and Florida use desalination for a very small part of their water supply.
• After being desalinized at Jubail, Saudi Arabia, water is pumped 200 miles (320 km) inland though a pipeline to the capital city of Riyadh.

A January 17, 2008, article in the Wall Street Journel states, "World-wide, 13,080 desalination plants produce more than 12 billion gallons of water a day, according to the International Desalination Association."
The world's largest desalination plant is the Jebel Ali Desalination Plant (Phase 2) in the United Arab Emirates. It is a dual-purpose facility that uses multi-stage flash distillation and is capable of producing 300 million cubic meters of water per year.
A typical aircraft carrier in the U.S. military uses nuclear power to desalinize 400,000 gallons of water per day.
While desalinizing 1,000 gallons of water can cost as much as $3, the same amount of bottled water costs $7,945.
However, given the energy intensive nature of desalination, with associated economic and environmental costs, desalination is generally considered a last resort after water conservation. But this is changing as prices continue to fall.
According to MSNBC, a report by Lux Research estimated that the worldwide desalinated water supply will triple between 2008 and 2020.

RoboClam

Torakx wrote: »

Im probably going to get burned bad for this now but cant a person take sea water and boil it evaporating and distilling the condensation to get drinkable water?

I know i am waffling a bit now lol

No you're right, you can do this. But take it from me, it is not a very fast process. Also, distilled water lacks nutrients and minerals and as such is not as healthy for you as other water sources are.

ShowMeTheCash

Torakx wrote: »

I agree.
It isnt about living space its about resources aswell if not more.
Those things can also be fixed if governments werent so busy shooting people and stealing resources.
Instead of encouraging corperate takeovers and big chains that destroy countries economies they could have organised each country alot better to start with.
What happened to all the farmers in ireland?
Did we suddenly start importing food from other countries instead or feeding ourselves?
The governments science department of health and food or whatever in ireland for example have still not educated people to grow there own food,created any incentives to grow your own food or build houses as standard with the ability to grow food indoors.
The water issue may have to be addressed in a few hundred years if the human race eventually gets organised.

Im probably going to get burned bad for this now but cant a person take sea water and boil it evaporating and distilling the condensation to get drinkable water?

I know i am waffling a bit now lol
I just get pissed off at how the world is so messed up and i watch it getting worse and worse not better and better.
I still believe this all stems from the fiat currency we have.Without that greedy people could not have so easily enslaved nations and we might have been able to afford by now a house on every acre in ireland alone from the money extorted from this countries people.

I dont know what Bill Gates ment by saying vaccines may help reduce the population by about 10%.If we live longer and and everyone is peaceful does that mean we wont want to have sex as much in poor countries where there is no means of contraceptive.
I think population control could be an issue in 50 years,but it certainly shouldnt be an issue if the place was run properly to start with.

I think you are being a little simplistic in how you are looking at this.
Ireland has a small enough population which is fair enough - How much food do you think we would need to produce to support everyone as we do now? How much oil would we need to produce to keep factorys, machinary, cars etc... running (Seeing we produce no oil).

Being self sufficient is something if we tried to do, I think would throw us back into a depression like we had during the famine. Or everyones life style would need to change radically

Population control is already an issue - When you have peopel starving it is an issue.

For the rich to be rich the poor need to be poor.

Kepti

robtri wrote: »

wheres the full video, that is only selecting a portion of the whole video and is completely taken out of context as a whole..

Here's the original: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/bill_gates.html

Torakx

ye we are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
It is easy to place the blame but harder to find a proper solution.
We can continue killing and sterilizing people or start making our way back to the dark ages in an orderly fashion.
After all when we run out of oil nobody is going to be able to make nearly all the technology we have nowadays anyway.
So i honestly believe we should ease our way back into a "greener" way of life.
When the oil runs out its probably going to be the end of technology as WE know it.
Co2 taxes are not going to do a single thing imo to solve this problem and its hair brained ideas like it that have things piling up on the next generation.
I dont know if that was Bill Gates solution im guessing not as it does sound ridiculous.But here is a funny comment from a person on youtube i thought was worth posting

"We had to put up with Al Gore, now it's this guy. They are really grasping at straws because of the climategate! What's also ****ed up he's preaching and he's one of the biggest producers of Co2 emitters. Just think of all the energy his business burnt up. What a jackass fraud! I guess us evil Co2 peasant need to be dealt with."

fontanalis

Torakx wrote: »

ye we are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.
It is easy to place the blame but harder to find a proper solution.
We can continue killing and sterilizing people or start making our way back to the dark ages in an orderly fashion.
After all when we run out of oil nobody is going to be able to make nearly all the technology we have nowadays anyway.
So i honestly believe we should ease our way back into a "greener" way of life.
When the oil runs out its probably going to be the end of technology as WE know it.
Co2 taxes are not going to do a single thing imo to solve this problem and its hair brained ideas like it that have things piling up on the next generation.
I dont know if that was Bill Gates solution im guessing not as it does sound ridiculous.But here is a funny comment from a person on youtube i thought was worth posting

"We had to put up with Al Gore, now it's this guy. They are really grasping at straws because of the climategate! What's also ****ed up he's preaching and he's one of the biggest producers of Co2 emitters. Just think of all the energy his business burnt up. What a jackass fraud! I guess us evil Co2 peasant need to be dealt with."

Wasn't worth it, sorry.

Kepti

Torakx wrote: »

We can continue killing and sterilizing people or start making our way back to the dark ages in an orderly fashion.

Where are people being killed and sterilized?

After all when we run out of oil nobody is going to be able to make nearly all the technology we have nowadays anyway.
So i honestly believe we should ease our way back into a "greener" way of life.
When the oil runs out its probably going to be the end of technology as WE know it.

What about every single other energy source available to us? Solar, wind, nuclear, tidal, hydroelectric, geothermal etc. Sure, it's going to be hard to wean the entire planet off oil, but the end of technology as we know it? Not a chance.

Angus Og

Kepti wrote: »

Where are people being killed and sterilized?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/opinion/l-sterilization-in-india-127183.html?pagewanted=1

The link isn't about killing.

namloc1980

Angus Og wrote: »

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/opinion/l-sterilization-in-india-127183.html?pagewanted=1

That's a letter sent into the NY Times. Doesn't say anything about forced sterilizations or the likes.

Truthrevolution

Didnt they say the same thing back in the 60s, that there wouldnt be enough resources to sustain humanity?

While Bill Gates comments may have been taken out of context, i dont see where vaccines come into the whole population control agenda.Most of you guys seem to think that vaccines are the be all, end all of saving peoples lives.So therefor how would these vaccines be reducing population numbers.I can understand health services, family planning, birth control etc but the only way vaccines are going to control populations is by killing people.

robtri

namloc1980 wrote: »

That's a letter sent into the NY Times. Doesn't say anything about forced sterilizations or the likes.

thats what i just thought

Angus Og

My mistake, I just read sterilization, not forced. Sorry.

Kepti

Angus Og wrote: »

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/opinion/l-sterilization-in-india-127183.html?pagewanted=1

The link isn't about killing.

That link contains a single innocuous sentence referencing sterilized H.I.V/AIDS sufferers. It doesn't come close to supporting your claim.

Angus Og

Fine, I'm not really bothered. I wasn't even claiming. Thanks for your interest. Night.

Torakx

Kepti wrote: »

Where are people being killed and sterilized?




What about every single other energy source available to us? Solar, wind, nuclear, tidal, hydroelectric, geothermal etc. Sure, it's going to be hard to wean the entire planet off oil, but the end of technology as we know it? Not a chance.

My apologies i dont have info on forced the sterilization yet.Its more a prediction of population control when it supposedly gets out of hand.
I said that because i am guessing in the distant future killing and force aborting babies will be seen as unethical in a future civilized world( i admit i jumped the gun as i dont know if anyone is officially or otherwise forced to be sterile).And sterilization will probably be enforced in overpopulated areas.For more info on forced abortions etc look into the practises of China,that is where i first heard about it anyway.And i dont think its another conspiracy theory.

On your second comment i do wish we could use more of these.
But i was lead to believe from once again another documentary i think it was about world resources that when the oil run out we wont be able to create things out of plastic for example because we wont be able to make it without some components from oil.Anyway from the amount of things this documentary stated were made with the use of oil it was obvious we are in trouble if its anywhere near true.I dont think it was just plastic either.It sounded like pretty much anything we process or manufacture requires the use of oil somewhere along the line.Even packaging is using oil partsand or trees which is bad.
It may not be the end or the world but i think it will be the end of technology as we knew it.
Bring on the bio technology now please

Kepti

Torakx wrote: »

My apologies i dont have info on forced the sterilization yet.Its more a prediction of population control when it supposedly gets out of hand.
I said that because i am guessing in the distant future killing and force aborting babies will be seen as unethical in a future civilized world( i admit i jumped the gun as i dont know if anyone is officially or otherwise forced to be sterile).And sterilization will probably be enforced in overpopulated areas.For more info on forced abortions etc look into the practises of China,that is where i first heard about it anyway.And i dont think its another conspiracy theory.

No need to apologize, that wasn't directed at you. Angus claimed that people were being sterilized, I just wanted to know where the evidence was.

On your second comment i do wish we could use more of these.
But i was lead to believe from once again another documentary i think it was about world resources that when the oil run out we wont be able to create things out of plastic for example because we wont be able to make it without some components from oil.Anyway from the amount of things this documentary stated were made with the use of oil it was obvious we are in trouble if its anywhere near true.I dont think it was just plastic either.It sounded like pretty much anything we process or manufacture requires the use of oil somewhere along the line.Even packaging is using oil partsand or trees which is bad.
It may not be the end or the world but i think it will be the end of technology as we knew it.
Bring on the bio technology now please

We do use oil to manufacture a vast array of different things. It's incredibly useful. It isn't however particularly special or unique. The reason we use it so much is because it's cheap. There are alternatives which already exist and replacements which are being researched. The higher oil rises in price, the more viable and profitable the alternatives become.

You think this will be the end of technology. I think this is just another technological hurdle that we're going to overcome.

Angus Og

Kepti wrote: »

No need to apologize, that wasn't directed at you. Angus claimed that people were being sterilized, I just wanted to know where the evidence was.

I didn't claim, and hang on, I just have to ring round the despots of the world. Apparently I'm being given access to their secret files on sterilization.

When I get the evidence, I'll post it. You might be waiting a while though.

Anyway, that letter is about sterilization. It happens. It's not forced, that's why I apologised.

See sterilization, not forced:

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-11427629.html

Brown Bomber

Here is a list of forced sterilisations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization

This is beyond belief people arguing for taking away the basic right of reproduction. This kind of thinking led to the Nazi Holocaust.

Truthrevolution

Bill is actually breaking the law according to United Nations "IMPOSING MEASURES INTENDED TO PREVENT BIRTHS WITHIN A GROUP" is practicing genocide.

humanji

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Bill is actually breaking the law according to United Nations "IMPOSING MEASURES INTENDED TO PREVENT BIRTHS WITHIN A GROUP" is practicing genocide.

But he's not imposing anything, is he? He's just discussing it.

Truthrevolution

humanji wrote: »

But he's not imposing anything, is he? He's just discussing it.

He is discussing imposing these measures, i suppose that makes the offence a conspiracy to commit genocide.

Brown Bomber

If people really want to look into it they should research Latin America after the CIA coups and the installation of puppet dictators. Puerto Rico especially, the US is trying to turn the whole island into a military base.

Here is one example for starters:

The former President of Peru Fujimori was a CIA puppet. He is currently being charged with the forced sterilisation of 300,000 Peruvian women.

“…the forced sterilizations focused on poor, indigenous, Quechua-speaking and Aymara women,” said women’s rights advocate Maria Esther Mogollon. She is a member of MAM Fundacional, the women’s rights organization that helped a group of victims present their case to federal authorities.

“The total number came to be 300,000 women and 22,000 men (who received vasectomies). … the majority of whom did not sign informed consent statements and were also subjected to threats, coercion and other violations.

It will always be the lowest rungs of society of course who are violated.

Peru and Fujimori was run in the shadows by Peruvian intelligence chief Montesino. Montesino was on the CIA payroll. I'd add links but my connection is acting up.

humanji

Truthrevolution wrote: »

He is discussing imposing these measures, i suppose that makes the offence a conspiracy to commit genocide.

But he isn't. He's just pointing out a simple fact. He's not saying anything about imposing anything.

And also, he has no power to impose anything, so saying he's guilty of genocide because of an opinion. That's a little to "1984" for my liking.

mysterious

The Irony here people are so scared that Bill Gates actually wants a billion gone of this planet. Lets face it, the rich list dont give a **** about you. So please lets get off this fantasy that the average joe soap is actually special to them. Your special like everyone else if you work enough hours to live on this planet, abide to taxe and don't break their rules. Its not like a secret that Bill is having meetings with other high ranking elites and bilderburgers and what not. Hes one of the richest people on the surface of this planet.

People at this rank look at you as sheep, whether you can digest that or not. We are their commoidity if your not willing to lead your own life. Like any herd on a farm. If a farmer can't manage the flock he will kill or ship some off, so he can keep his farm at a manageble size. The farmer wants to mange and keep his business in profit.

Its about money, and I'm going to take this shock to a whole new level. Population reduction has already started and its going to happen because none of you are taking the warnings or taking any responsiblity for your life. Your not even questiong the blatant facts thats happening on your planet at this time. Look at the record amount of earthquakes in the last 2 months alone. HAARP claims, WW3 scare mongering and Iran Sanctions. Things are moving The shadow governments are not sitting at home just thinking they NWO is going to happen by itself. They have prepared this for a very long time.

The future depends if you all get up off your ass and do something with your life and power. Thats exactly what the NWO is about. Its forcing you to do something good or ill, doesnt matter your going to have to make a decision with the course of your life, otherwise someone else will.

Its precisely why Bill Gates is moving his piece.

The question goes back to EVERYONE of you on this forum. What are you going to do?

uprising2

"Originally funded by Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates through his Seattle-based Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI's partnership of international governments and vaccine manufacturers salvaged lagging sales through an overhauled world vaccination campaign that placed GAVI, headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, at the center of the reorganized alliance.....In 1999, with GAVI's international partnership and Bill Gates' billions on the way to rescue the industry, the CDC hired the IOM's Immunizations and Safety Review Committee to examine multiple “vaccine safety challenges”.
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/gavi.html

A recent review of injection safety in the developing world found that unsafe injections occur routinely, providing opportunity for transmission of blood-borne pathogens. Unsafe injections currently account for a significant proportion of new hepatitis B and C infections and a smaller proportion of HIV infections. While these statistics apply to all injections (both curative and preventive), they have significant import for immunizations by injection.
http://www.prb.org/Articles/2001/ChallengestoGlobalImmunizationPrograms.aspx?p=1

Bill and Melinda Gates Pledge $10 Billion in Call for Decade of Vaccines
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bill-and-melinda-gates-pledge-10-billion-in-call-for-decade-of-vaccines-83016467.html

The World's Plutocrats at Work to Decrease Population
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mos/mos_07billionaires.html

But the Gates tetanus program bears striking resemblance to another tetanus program that sterilized thousands of women and caused abortions in many others in the Philippines.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-59099303.html

Showing its shocking connections to today’s G.A.V.I. Are powerful forces really trying to help the poor people or could it be for another agenda; the sterilization of the poor?
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=1644

RoboClam

mysterious wrote: »

The Irony here people are so scared that Bill Gates actually wants a billion gone of this planet. Lets face it, the rich list dont give a **** about you. So please lets get off this fantasy that the average joe soap is actually special to them. Your special like everyone else if you work enough hours to live on this planet, abide to taxe and don't break their rules. Its not like a secret that Bill is having meetings with other high ranking elites and bilderburgers and what not. Hes one of the richest people on the surface of this planet.

People at this rank look at you as sheep, whether you can digest that or not. We are their commoidity if your not willing to lead your own life. Like any herd on a farm. If a farmer can't manage the flock he will kill or ship some off, so he can keep his farm at a manageble size. The farmer wants to mange and keep his business in profit.

Its about money, and I'm going to take this shock to a whole new level. Population reduction has already started and its going to happen because none of you are taking the warnings or taking any responsiblity for your life. Your not even questiong the blatant facts thats happening on your planet at this time. Look at the record amount of earthquakes in the last 2 months alone. HAARP claims, WW3 scare mongering and Iran Sanctions. Things are moving The shadow governments are not sitting at home just thinking they NWO is going to happen by itself. They have prepared this for a very long time.

The future depends if you all get up off your ass and do something with your life and power. Thats exactly what the NWO is about. Its forcing you to do something good or ill, doesnt matter your going to have to make a decision with the course of your life, otherwise someone else will.

Its precisely why Bill Gates is moving his piece.

The question goes back to EVERYONE of you on this forum. What are you going to do?

Let's just say for argument sake, that everything you say on these forums is actually true. Star-gates, lizards, powerful shadow governments, alien galactic federations and so on...

If these are all true, then there is nothing that we could do to stop these powerful beings from killing us. No matter what we did. Even if we all "woke up" at the same time and "opened our eyes" we would still be at the mercy of the "corrupt governments". Even if we overthrew the government the intergalactic aliens would destroy us. We have no chance.

Looks like we're screwed every which way, huh?

namloc1980

uprising2 wrote: »

Are powerful forces really trying to help the poor people or could it be for another agenda; the sterilization of the poor?

Well if that is there agenda then they haven't done a very good job. World population growth continues to be highest in so called poorer countries.

mysterious

RoboClam wrote: »

Let's just say for argument sake, that everything you say on these forums is actually true. Star-gates, lizards, powerful shadow governments, alien galactic federations and so on...

If these are all true, then there is nothing that we could do to stop these powerful beings from killing us. No matter what we did. Even if we all "woke up" at the same time and "opened our eyes" we would still be at the mercy of the "corrupt governments". Even if we overthrew the government the intergalactic aliens would destroy us. We have no chance.

Looks like we're screwed every which way, huh?

I never said there is nothing we can do to stop the powers/elites.

I don't respect that you put words into people's mouth as a way to feed this agenda here like above or re wording and taking peoples words out of context. Beleive whatever you want, but don't speak for me, its disrespectful. Thanks.