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Ultimate Seduction · 19-07-2019 1:29am

Still Ill wrote: »

No Ferguson though? Unless I missed it

Ya I missed him. Hopefully he's on standby for Abu Dhabi

tommyboy26 · 19-07-2019 5:04pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Ya I missed him. Hopefully he's on standby for Abu Dhabi

could of swore i read that felder is the stand in for khabib Vs dustin

Autecher · 19-07-2019 6:22pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

could of swore i read that felder is the stand in for khabib Vs dustin

Not officially but because he is the co main against Barboza he said he is going to make sure his weight is 155 in case one of the headliners pull out last minute.

Subcomandante Marcos · 19-07-2019 6:46pm

So unkranked Felder will get the nod ahead of ranked Barbosa to fight for a title?

FOH with that Dana White nonsense.

The UFC, where being a company man will get you further than your skills ever could.

Autecher · 19-07-2019 7:56pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

So unkranked Felder will get the nod ahead of ranked Barbosa to fight for a title?

FOH with that Dana White nonsense.

The UFC, where being a company man will get you further than your skills ever could.

No I didn’t say that. Fielder is choosing to make 155 instead of the 156 he can make for his non championship fight. Dana has said nothing about as far as I know. Maybe Tony will be on standby who knows? Fielder is also ranked 10th and is on a 4 fight win streak at lightweight compared to Barboza being seventh but on a 1 fight win streak.

Beersmith · 19-07-2019 7:57pm

Felder is ranked?!!

Subcomandante Marcos · 19-07-2019 8:12pm

Beersmith wrote: »

Felder is ranked?!!

He really shouldn't be, definitely not in the top 10.

MrStuffins · 20-07-2019 12:28am

Autecher wrote: »

No I didn’t say that. Fielder is choosing to make 155 instead of the 156 he can make for his non championship fight. Dana has said nothing about as far as I know. Maybe Tony will be on standby who knows? Fielder is also ranked 10th and is on a 4 fight win streak at lightweight compared to Barboza being seventh but on a 1 fight win streak.

Didn't Felder lose to Mike Perry less than a year ago?

CiaranTheGreat · 20-07-2019 1:33am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Didn't Felder lose to Mike Perry less than a year ago?

That was at welterweight

Mellor · 20-07-2019 4:21am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

So unkranked Felder will get the nod ahead of ranked Barbosa to fight for a title?

FOH with that Dana White nonsense.

The UFC, where being a company man will get you further than your skills ever could.

Barboza cant fight for the belt if he is 156lbs. Stand in needs to make 155 just like the champ.
Smart move from Felder tbh.

Beersmith · 20-07-2019 8:08am

CiaranTheGreat wrote: »

That was at welterweight

Yeah and a bit of slack to him, went up a weight class at short notice and broke his arm didn't he? And it was a close fight. Defo top 15 and nearly top 10 in LW for sure. Guy comes to fight and has skills.

Mellor · 20-07-2019 9:42am

Beersmith wrote: »

Yeah and a bit of slack to him, went up a weight class at short notice and broke his arm didn't he? And it was a close fight. Defo top 15 and nearly top 10 in LW for sure. Guy comes to fight and has skills.

He’s currently ranked no. 10. Wouldn’t argue with that. But I also don’t see him climbing above Pettis, Gaethje.

Beersmith · 20-07-2019 10:47am

Mellor wrote: »

He’s currently ranked no. 10. Wouldn’t argue with that. But I also don’t see him climbing above Pettis, Gaethje.

Fair. Pettis doesn't fight LW anymore though so he should be taken off.

Whelo79 · 20-07-2019 11:51pm

Bautista v Son on the prelims is a fun fight right now.

fitzparker · 22-07-2019 8:15am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He really shouldn't be, definitely not in the top 10.

Great backtracking, I think anywhere ranked between 8-12 is pretty fair (defo cemented if he beats Barboza) and as others said its a smart move coming in at 155, i'm sure Barboza will do the same.

TerrorFirmer · 22-07-2019 9:15am

Anyone see Hernandez v Trinaldo?

First round or two...

rob316 · 22-07-2019 9:34am

Ah that's the Jon Jones we loved to hate. He can drop the nice guy act now.

Charged with battery for putting a cocktail waitress in a chokehold in a strip club in April.

The Nal · 22-07-2019 9:40am

....accused Jones of slapping her, pulling her down to his lap and kissing her on the neck. She also alleged that Jones put her in a choke hold and picked her up and continued to touch her after she asked him to stop.

Jones reportedly failed to show up for an arraignment for the battery charge in June and a bench warrant was issued.

JJayoo · 22-07-2019 11:52am

Is Jones banging Holly Holm?

Ultimate Seduction · 22-07-2019 12:41pm

He has it on Twitter that it's complete bull****. If there was a bench warrant for his arrest since June he'd have been arrested by now, surley?

dave1982 · 22-07-2019 1:38pm

It's a pico assault charge... so as ye were

Axwell · 23-07-2019 8:02pm

Brendan Loughnane after getting signed up to PFL after missing out on a contract last month on Dana's Contender Series

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2019/07/pfl-brendan-loughnane-signs-pfl-after-dana-white-passed

eagle eye · 23-07-2019 8:30pm

There's a young Australian lad whose parents are Irish who is building a very good reputation for himself in Australia. His name is Jamie Mullarkey. His first loss was to Alexander Volkanovski in a fight that many felt was likely to get the winner into the UFC and that happened. He was only 21 when he took that fight and lost his next fight, took time off to work on his strength and conditioning and got his act together after that. He is in much better shape now than he looked back then and has won his four fights since then.
I think you'll see him get a shot at the UFC very shortly. I think he is a real good prospect now.

Mellor · 23-07-2019 11:35pm

eagle eye wrote: »

There's a young Australian lad whose parents are Irish who is building a very good reputation for himself in Australia. His name is Jamie Mullarkey. His first loss was to Alexander Volkanovski in a fight that many felt was likely to get the winner into the UFC and that happened. He was only 21 when he took that fight and lost his next fight, took time off to work on his strength and conditioning and got his act together after that. He is in much better shape now than he looked back then and has won his four fights since then.
I think you'll see him get a shot at the UFC very shortly. I think he is a real good prospect now.

Jamie trains at my gym the odd time. He’s a good fighter. I’ve watch him for a few years as he’s my size. Comes down to spar with a pro in his division.
I’d think either (or both) could get a spot on the October card.

Autecher · 24-07-2019 8:53am

Chris Weidman is making his light heavyweight debut against Dominick Reyes in October. It looks like Cory Anderson is next in line for Jon Jones too, that fight will either be in MSG in November or the December ppv, providing of course Jon's possible legal issues are all sorted out.

Also Ariel says they are trying to make Ben Askren v Demian Maia for a fight in September.

MrStuffins · 24-07-2019 10:10am

Autecher wrote: »

It looks like Cory Anderson is next in line for Jon Jones too, that fight will either be in MSG in November or the December ppv, providing of course Jon's possible legal issues are all sorted out.

My God. LHW must be at the weakest it's ever been. Think of the names who used to fight in that division. Look at the guys Jon Jones has beaten in his time.

DC, Shogun, Rampage, Rashad, Lyoto, Vitor, Gustafsson...........

There were others like Chuck, Randy, Wandi, Tito etc.

Now look at it. Jones is on top and the best they can come up with is Corey Anderson? A guy with losses to Jimi Manuwa and Gian Valante?

The likes of Thiago Santos, Anthony Smith, Jan Blanchowicz.......... they wouldn't be fit to shine the shoes of half of the guys Jon Jones has beat.

yourdeadwright · 24-07-2019 10:37am

MrStuffins wrote: »

My God. LHW must be at the weakest it's ever been. Think of the names who used to fight in that division. Look at the guys Jon Jones has beaten in his time.

DC, Shogun, Rampage, Rashad, Lyoto, Vitor, Gustafsson...........

There were others like Chuck, Randy, Wandi, Tito etc.

Now look at it. Jones is on top and the best they can come up with is Corey Anderson? A guy with losses to Jimi Manuwa and Gian Valante?

The likes of Thiago Santos, Anthony Smith, Jan Blanchowicz.......... they wouldn't be fit to shine the shoes of half of the guys Jon Jones has beat.

Personally I think your wrong, Thiago Santos , Smith and Blanchowic would all have been good in the previous Era's

The issue is Jones,
He is so good that he makes the rest look bad ,remember he handled all the other guys with ease to ,

If Jones never fought, Santos , Smith and Blanchowic would all be having great fights for the title and contender matches would be exciting
Everyone would be saying wow the new bred is amazing, its just impossible to get excited for them because we all know once they get title shot they will lose to Jones,

Its like Welter weight seems so much better now because you don't have GSP dominating , its more exciting when the belt can be passed around and you don't know who is going to win

Well that's my two cents

Subcomandante Marcos · 24-07-2019 11:20am

MrStuffins wrote: »

My God. LHW must be at the weakest it's ever been. Think of the names who used to fight in that division. Look at the guys Jon Jones has beaten in his time.

DC, Shogun, Rampage, Rashad, Lyoto, Vitor, Gustafsson...........

There were others like Chuck, Randy, Wandi, Tito etc.

Now look at it. Jones is on top and the best they can come up with is Corey Anderson? A guy with losses to Jimi Manuwa and Gian Valante?

The likes of Thiago Santos, Anthony Smith, Jan Blanchowicz.......... they wouldn't be fit to shine the shoes of half of the guys Jon Jones has beat.

And yet Santos made Jones look cautious and boring and Smith literally just retired a relatively young Gus.

Mellor · 24-07-2019 11:28am

I agree with the above.
Shogun, Machida, Rampage, Rashad, etc they all had built their reputation and legend statuses before they ran into Jones. Even if they all passed the belt around every second fight.
The current breed have has a chance to achieve that. They just get de-railed by Jones. But they top guys are as good as previous generation imo

uchimata83 · 26-07-2019 8:17am

So is 240 going to be on BT sport box office?

Edit : still no pricing for BT on air, absolute shambles of a company

xtal191 · 26-07-2019 1:08pm

uchimata83 wrote: »

So is 240 going to be on BT sport box office?

Edit : still no pricing for BT on air, absolute shambles of a company

I could be wrong but I think you can only get BT through Sky now, don't think it'll be on Eir, Virgin etc

uchimata83 · 26-07-2019 1:25pm

xtal191 wrote: »

I could be wrong but I think you can only get BT through Sky now, don't think it'll be on Eir, Virgin etc

It will be available they've said (as an add on), the same way sky is at the moment. Was supposed to have been notified of pricing and everything by the end of June

DrPhilG · 26-07-2019 2:17pm

I spoke to Sky last week to organise an upgrade, asked about the BT pricing, they hadn't a clue but "expected" it to be soon.

xtal191 · 26-07-2019 4:03pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

I spoke to Sky last week to organise an upgrade, asked about the BT pricing, they hadn't a clue but "expected" it to be soon.

Sky announced prices the other day, if you have Sky Sports subscription its €10 for 6 months then €20 after. €17/€34 if you just want BT on its own without Sky Sports.

DrPhilG · 26-07-2019 7:45pm

Thanks

And ouch. I don't have Sky Sports. Might try and wangle an offer.

ASOT · 27-07-2019 2:27pm

BJs fighting Nik Lentz

mailburner · 27-07-2019 2:38pm

ASOT wrote: »

BJs fighting Nik Lentz

ffs

why are they giving him another fight

TerrorFirmer · 27-07-2019 5:59pm

It's actually beyond pitiful at this stage. Surprised the UFC keep giving him fights at this point. It's like people tune in just to see how badly he gets beaten up.

There's a few of them now that desperately need to just hang up the gloves. Some people do remain competitive, either entirely or relatively speaking, as they hit the upper age limit, but BJ Penn is the furthest thing from that.

Frank Mir is another legendary fighter who I wish would hang up the gloves.

JJayoo · 28-07-2019 10:11pm

BJ Penn should be fighting hand picked bums, let him retire on a 3 fight win streak

ASOT · 28-07-2019 10:14pm

JJayoo wrote: »

BJ Penn should be fighting hand picked bums, let him retire on a 3 fight win streak

He wouldn't be able to beat hand picked bums.

The Nal · 29-07-2019 12:21pm

BJs record in the 2010s. 11 fights, 1 win, 1 draw, 9 losses.

What the fook is he doing fighting? The most overrated fighter of all time. Decent 3 year run nearly 20 years ago. Whos he beaten? Serra and Hughes? Lost to everyone else decent. Sad stuff.

MrStuffins · 29-07-2019 12:50pm

The Nal wrote: »

BJs record in the 2010s. 11 fights, 1 win, 1 draw, 9 losses.

What the fook is he doing fighting? The most overrated fighter of all time. Decent 3 year run nearly 20 years ago. Whos he beaten? Serra and Hughes? Lost to everyone else decent. Sad stuff.

BJ is a legend. He was Lightweight Champion and defended 3 times. No other LW has defended more than BJ. And each of those defenses was a bloody and brutal stoppage. He wasn't eeking out Split Decisions like Bendo

He also won the WW belt and beat a man who was possibly the most dominant fighter of his era. Hughes was at the peak of his powers. In fact, it's not long after this that he beat GSP.

He also beat prime Takanori Gomi. None of this even mentions his role in the early UFC days, fighting the likes of Pulver, Uno, Thomas etc.

He should have retired a long time ago and he should not be fighting, but it's silly to describe BJ's illustrious career as "A decent 3 year run".

The Nal · 29-07-2019 1:15pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

BJ is a legend. He was Lightweight Champion and defended 3 times. No other LW has defended more than BJ. And each of those defenses was a bloody and brutal stoppage. He wasn't eeking out Split Decisions like Bendo

He also won the WW belt and beat a man who was possibly the most dominant fighter of his era. Hughes was at the peak of his powers. In fact, it's not long after this that he beat GSP.

He also beat prime Takanori Gomi. None of this even mentions his role in the early UFC days, fighting the likes of Pulver, Uno, Thomas etc.

He should have retired a long time ago and he should not be fighting, but it's silly to describe BJ's illustrious career as "A decent 3 year run".

Most of those things you mentioned happened in the space of about 3 years. 2001 to 2004. He has only won 7 fights from 21 since then, in the last 15 years! From age 26 onwards. Lost 13.

We're not considering Stevenson, Florian etc greats are we? Sanchez was a warrior fair enough.

Not trying to knock him for no reason, loved watching him fight back then, "overrated" doesn't mean "shít", excellent career in parts him but I do remember having this conversation after the Edgar fights. I just find the "legendary", "one of the best ever" chat a bit OTT.

Shouldn't be fighting of course but I guess he wants to go out on a win.

eagle eye · 29-07-2019 1:20pm

The Nal wrote:

I just find the "legendary", "one of the best ever" chat a bit OTT.

How many fighters in the hall of fame? He is one of them, so one of the greatest ever.

billybonkers · 29-07-2019 1:32pm

BJ v CM Punk is the only fight to make

The Nal · 29-07-2019 1:33pm

eagle eye wrote: »

How many fighters in the hall of fame? He is one of them, so one of the greatest ever.

On his day, incredible. But his entire career has been patchy to say the least.

Anyway interestingly his ex says he uses fight camps to stay off coke which may explain a lot.

billybonkers wrote: »

BJ v CM Punk is the only fight to make

Thats an even fight these days.

Nigzcurran · 29-07-2019 1:34pm

billybonkers wrote: »

BJ v CM Punk is the only fight to make

Imagine bj lost that as well :-(

riffmongous · 30-07-2019 5:55pm

I just read that Volkanovski used to weight around 95 kilos when he played rugby, that's some change compared to now.

Just heard an interview with him where he discusses his cutting routine, said he's usually around 74kg 2/3 weeks out and that's not too far off his normal weight.
Nice interview actually, seems like an interesting guy https://www.facebook.com/Thelockerroomnetwork/videos/vb.546253932181137/997447040395155/?type=2&theater

31-07-2019 11:52pm

I just noticed that the main card for UFC on ESPN 5 (Lawler v Covington) kicks off at 8PM Irish Time. Any particular reason for this?

DrPhilG · 31-07-2019 11:57pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I just noticed that the main card for UFC on ESPN 5 (Lawler v Covington) kicks off at 8PM Irish Time. Any particular reason for this?

I think I did hear the commentator last week say that it was a special matinee time kick off. Not sure why.

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