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Heavyweight Boxing

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  • #5202
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Quigg is past it and was never a big fan of Farmer. If you're genuine world class you should be beating Tevin Farmer imo.

    Agreed. Farmer is/was an average WC, and beat Jono fairly handily..


  • #5203
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    For those who dont know, Mike Tyson has a Podcast called Hotboxin.

    There a couple of good Interviews with Michael Buffer and Shannon Briggs.

    https://youtu.be/DPRXnzOjggA

    https://youtu.be/huLFf1RJssc

    He also shows how not to social distance while on Venice Beach recently.
    https://youtu.be/4HZjvBli3Dc


  • #5204
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    stockshares wrote: »
    For those who dont know, Mike Tyson has a Podcast called Hotboxin.

    There a couple of good Interviews with Michael Buffer and Shannon Briggs.

    https://youtu.be/DPRXnzOjggA

    https://youtu.be/huLFf1RJssc

    He also shows how not to social distance while on Venice Beach recently.
    https://youtu.be/4HZjvBli3Dc

    The man is nauseating. I can stomach no more than ten seconds of him speaking.


  • #5205
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    walshb wrote: »
    The man is nauseating. I can stomach no more than ten seconds of him speaking.

    He's a parody at this stage. He keeps trying to sound enlightened and philosophical but it's all a con.


  • #5206
    SHOVELLER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Whatever about Tyson his co presenter seems to be permanently out of it as he all he says is "interesting" in that stoned voice.


  • #5207
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Zero interest. The only Tyson worth seeing is the one on YouTube from 25 years ago


  • #5208
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,020 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Jnr. 8 round exhibition. September 12th on PPV.


  • #5209
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Sad and unnecessary and Ill steer clear of it

    Oh and Jones merks him, Tyson legs are like two, stiff planks of wood when he's seen walking, Jones can still move


  • #5210
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Sad and unnecessary and Ill steer clear of it

    Oh and Jones merks him, Tyson legs are like two, stiff planks of wood when he's seen walking, Jones can still move

    Tyson lands with any type technique and power and Jones folds yet again.

    His chin was never great. His great athleticism and speed and ability to not take real clean shots saved him...when he lost that bit of athleticism, and fighters found the chin, he folded, several times...

    You will hear the usual excuse that the weight gain and loss was the issue....utter horse****. He got knocked out clean several times when still a "relatively" young man.

    Jones is a has-been nobody now. Tyson is a has-been nobody now...

    But, problem for Jones is that Tyson can still hit hard enough to knock him out, and this time, Jones is so well past it, that even a old man like Mike may still find the chin.

    But, this all based on them actually committing, and not pretend sparring.


  • #5211
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    walshb wrote: »
    Tyson lands with any type technique and power and Jones folds yet again.

    His chin was never great. His great athleticism and speed and ability to not take real clean shots saved him...when he lots that bit of athleticism, and fighters found the chin, he folded, several times...

    You will hear the usual excuse that the weight gain and loss was the issue....utter horse****. He got knocked out clean several times when still a young man

    Jones is a has-been nobody now. Tyson is a has-been nobody now...

    But, problem for Jones is that Tyson can still hit hard enough to knock him out, and this time, Jones is so well past it, that even a old man like Mike may still find the chin.

    But, this all based on them actually committing, and not pretend sparring.


    To be fair there's no point trying to break down the fight both are 9n a jocker at this stage so it's just sad really


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  • #5212
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    To be fair there's no point trying to break down the fight both are 9n a jocker at this stage so it's just sad really

    I reckon both just ponce around and tickle each other for 8 rds, looking like absolute sacks of Sh1t..


  • #5213
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    It's not just sad, it shouldn't be allowed.
    Both men are asking for trouble.

    I don't know anything about the rules on exhibition bouts. How are these bouts officiated? How serious are the fighters supposed to take it?

    What happens if one guy is joking around for a paycheck and the other sees it as an opportunity to do harm?

    It would me more interesting and probably benefit the fighters more if they collaborated and went around giving Training+ Skills Exhibitions in a similar way to how Footballers run Skills camps.

    Both men are of dubious character anyway. Tyson's crimes are well known and he's been using Cannabis for a good while now although off other stuff so that can't help his reflexes.

    Jones was a guy I could never take to at all. Always had that Roid look and breeds dogs for fighting like his mate Michael Vick.


  • #5214
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    stockshares wrote: »
    It's not just sad, it shouldn't be allowed.
    Both men are asking for trouble.

    I don't know anything about the rules on exhibition bouts. How are these bouts officiated? How serious are the fighters supposed to take it?

    What happens if one guy is joking around for a paycheck and the other sees it as an opportunity to do harm?

    It would me more interesting and probably benefit the fighters more if they collaborated and went around giving Training+ Skills Exhibitions in a similar way to how Footballers run Skills camps.

    Both men are of dubious character anyway. Tyson's crimes are well known and he's been using Cannabis for a good while now although off other stuff so that can't help his reflexes.

    Jones was a guy I could never take to at all. Always had that Roid look and breeds dogs for fighting like his mate Michael Vick.

    It may be arranged WWF style.....poncing around with nobody serioulsy getting hurt

    Both men be lucky to get past three rds at a decent fighting pace anyway...


  • #5215
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,020 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I want to see Tyson lose it and starting biting people ears off if I'm paying.


  • #5216
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Heres a bit on it. Can't believe it's on pay per view.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-vs-roy-jones-jr-comeback-fight-brain-injury-a9635751.html


  • #5217
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Anyone watching Joyce?


  • #5218
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Anyone watching Joyce?

    He looked terrible.


  • #5219
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    normanoffside wrote: »
    He looked terrible.

    Like a lad ready to embrace retirement. You’d have thought that he’d have had enough discipline during lockdown to maintain some kind of shape. At 35 you can’t yo-yo weight


  • #5220
    colly10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭colly10


    stockshares wrote: »
    Heres a bit on it. Can't believe it's on pay per view.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-vs-roy-jones-jr-comeback-fight-brain-injury-a9635751.html

    I can understand why some people would want to watch, loved both in their prime but they may as well be different people at this stage. Can’t believe this would be PPV. I’d find this a tough watch, a KO wouldn’t do either of these good


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  • #5221
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,020 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    normanoffside wrote: »
    He looked terrible.

    He did. Hoping Dubois destroys him.


  • #5222
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Be interesting to see what Dubois does in his warm up


  • #5223
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    The Nal wrote: »
    He did. Hoping Dubois destroys him.

    When David Haye is talking about Joyce having to survive the early rounds it would indicate he doesn’t have much confidence in him. He wants to tip him but not to look foolish. I originally felt Joyce would be a huge test but not after watching that


  • #5224
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    When David Haye is talking about Joyce having to survive the early rounds it would indicate he doesn’t have much confidence in him. He wants to tip him but not to look foolish. I originally felt Joyce would be a huge test but not after watching that

    It’s actually mental how slow his hands are, Dubois will beat him to the jab every single time


  • #5225
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Bobby Baccala wrote: »
    It’s actually mental how slow his hands are, Dubois will beat him to the jab every single time

    Yea it looks really unnatural almost like there’s a delay from brain to arm. He does throw a lot and has power but It takes so long. the cockiness is beyond me too. The best he moves is the backflip afterwards. Hands low, poor effort to use reflexes... Dubois will cement him. If that happens then where does he go?


  • #5226
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    So I see Dillian has weighed in 2st6 heavier than AP. Anyone going to get it? I’m tempted. I went over to the Rivas fight last year and I’d be more into seeing AP than him. Both look pretty trim I’d say it’ll be an exciting fight that will test Whyte defensively. Last day out I thought AP was finished so it’ll be interesting to see if that’s confirmed.


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  • #5227
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    So I see Dillian has weighed in 2st6 heavier than AP. Anyone going to get it? I’m tempted. I went over to the Rivas fight last year and I’d be more into seeing AP than him. Both look pretty trim I’d say it’ll be an exciting fight that will test Whyte defensively. Last day out I thought AP was finished so it’ll be interesting to see if that’s confirmed.

    AVP has been done for ages now,
    It's gimme fight for Whyte with a decent name,

    I just hope to God he doesn't start calling out Fury no one wants to see it we all want AJ v Fury , Hearn will want it two fights with Fury for his fighters will earn him buckets loads of cash ,

    If Fury is made fight him as a mandatory I wouldn't be surprised if Fury just hands over the title ,
    He wants AJ I don't think he cares about belts he just wants to be the No1


  • #5228
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    So I see Dillian has weighed in 2st6 heavier than AP. Anyone going to get it? I’m tempted. I went over to the Rivas fight last year and I’d be more into seeing AP than him. Both look pretty trim I’d say it’ll be an exciting fight that will test Whyte defensively. Last day out I thought AP was finished so it’ll be interesting to see if that’s confirmed.

    I have it..

    25 euro. Feck it. I spend that on coffee every week..


  • #5229
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Povetkin is clearly past it, but Whyte is muck..

    Whyte probably win, but AP win would not shock me at all.


  • #5230
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Povetkin is finished i think, whyte should have enough about him to knock him out, but as for Whyte in a rematch against AJ or against Fury

    forget about it, he is a class below them.


  • #5231
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    walshb wrote: »
    I have it..

    25 euro. Feck it. I spend that in coffee every week..

    I think I'll watch a movie turn the phone off and get up before the kids on Sunday and watch it online ,

    I can't bring myself to pay for them two in someone's back garden :D


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  • #5232
    Kilboor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    Povetkin was fairly shook by Hunter but fought back well to earn the draw (on another night could have been a loss)

    Enjoyed watching him a fight a few times, hopefully he can put on a performance but looked shot last time.


  • #5233
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I think I'll watch a movie turn the phone off and get up before the kids on Sunday and watch it online ,

    I can't bring myself to pay for them two in someone's back garden :D

    Yeh...pitiful that it is PPV

    But Katie-Persoon has that bit of edge and controversy to it...


  • #5234
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Think it'll be a decent fight to be honest but seeing Whyte in good shape at the weigh in today makes me confident he'll get the job done. Can see him having to overcome a couple of hairy moments but should win either via late stoppage or on points. Whyte can definitely be hurt but he's tough and when his gas tank is up to scratch you get the feeling you'd need to put a serious dent in him to get him out of there. Povetkin can definitely do that but it's been 5 years since he's knocked out anyone better than David Price. Fancy Whyte to beat this version of him.

    Can't see how Katie loses as long as she boxes smart this time. Persoon coming off injury and a short camp too. Think Katie on points is a banker tbh.


  • #5235
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Not suggesting anything but durning lock down would fighter have been spot tested?


  • #5236
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Not suggesting anything but durning lock down would fighter have been spot tested?

    You are suggesting something and you’re probably right! Those lads love helpers so I guess it’s an even playing field!


  • #5237
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    You are suggesting something and you’re probably right! Those lads love helpers so I guess it’s an even playing field!

    Povetkin didn’t look physically impressive at the weighin anyway. When he was juicing he was 5lbs heavier and with a 6 pack


  • #5238
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Povetkin didn’t look physically impressive at the weighin anyway. When he was juicing he was 5lbs heavier and with a 6 pack

    He’s a bit older now though...

    I’d say he’s clean, but comparing images today with years ago, and mentioning 5 lbs (which a small person can fluctuate with in 24 hours) means nothing..


  • #5239
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    What are ye all going for lads?
    I'd say White in 5/6.
    Not a fan of his at all though and would be glad to see him put on his hole.


  • #5240
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Povetkin didn’t look physically impressive at the weighin anyway. When he was juicing he was 5lbs heavier and with a 6 pack

    I think AVP is smaller than he used to be all over
    Its Whyte I'd be worried about


  • #5241
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    blade1 wrote: »
    What are ye all going for lads?
    I'd say White in 5/6.
    Not a fan of his at all though and would be glad to see him put on his hole.

    Why do you give either of these respect. They are both juicers.


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  • #5242
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    stockshares wrote: »
    Why do you give either of these respect. They are both juicers.
    Huh?
    What are u on about?


  • #5243
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    blade1 wrote: »
    Huh?
    What are u on about?

    By showing any interest in this fight people give these cheaters credibilty.


  • #5244
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    stockshares wrote: »
    By showing any interest in this fight people give these cheaters credibilty.

    You've just shown interest yourself if you're looking at the thread.:pac:

    Do yourself a favour :pac:


  • #5245
    stockshares
    Registered Users Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭stockshares


    blade1 wrote: »
    You've just shown interest yourself if you're looking at the thread.:pac:

    Do yourself a favour :pac:

    I'm intersted in Boxing. This thread is not about Whyte or Povetkin.

    They are known juicers and should not be allowed box. The same goes for Fury and any other juicers.


  • #5246
    Panthro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,824 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    stockshares wrote: »
    I'm intersted in Boxing. This thread is not about Whyte or Povetkin.

    They are known juicers and should not be allowed box. The same goes for Fury and any other juicers.

    Think I hear what you're saying

    They should set up an "all you can juice" boxing division.


  • #5247
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Sky have gone live with the first free half hour.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeSlnDyiqq0


    Weather is not looking good very windy and rainy. Talking about boxing like horse racing. Going good to firm.


  • #5248
    squinn2912
    Registered Users Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Frig it I paid the score. Rank weather yea.
    I think Whyte 7/8 but as has been suggested AP winning wouldn’t surprise me. If he could get to aj he can get to whyte. I thought both looked decent at the weigh in pov is in good nick


  • #5249
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    squinn2912 wrote: »
    Frig it I paid the score. Rank weather yea.
    I think Whyte 7/8 but as has been suggested AP winning wouldn’t surprise me. If he could get to aj he can get to whyte. I thought both looked decent at the weigh in pov is in good nick

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058106763


  • #5250
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    stockshares wrote: »
    I'm intersted in Boxing. This thread is not about Whyte or Povetkin.

    It is for now.
    And show me where I gave the respect you said I did to them.

    Is it just juicers are not allowed be spoken of or is it all crimes?


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  • #5251
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,657 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Use the fight thread, lads!


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