Artificial fucκing sweeteners in everything everything tastes like shıt now.

the purple tin · 17-09-2020 12:20pm

Homelander wrote: »

Pretty sure those research efforts have been debunked repeatedly in the debate.

There's no massive Lizard-people conspiracy over Aspartame.

Okay, you drink away at your Pepsi Max, Lizard Boy.
I'll listen to the experts rather than some randomer on Boards, if you don't mind.

Homelander · 17-09-2020 12:30pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Okay, you drink away at your Pepsi Max, Lizard Boy.
I'll listen to the experts rather than some randomer on Boards, if you don't mind.

"The experts" being a handful of people going against the scientific grain from incontestable studies.

I suppose you also think that masks stop you breathing and Covid-19 is a Government conspiracy.

the purple tin · 17-09-2020 12:37pm

Homelander wrote: »

There's no massive Lizard-people conspiracy over Aspartame.

[QUOTE=Homelander;114641360 Covid-19 is a Government conspiracy.[/QUOTE]

You have way to much time on your hands.
Seek help, Lizard Boy.

Homelander · 17-09-2020 1:15pm

The classic response from idiots who are incapable of admitting they're wrong.

"You have too much time on your hands".

In response to a post I made, that's literally half the length of your quoted post.

paw patrol · 17-09-2020 3:57pm

blinding wrote: »

Will their taste buds get to like this stuff now ?

that is an interesting question, i've no idea tbh and never considered that.

they do like chocolate cake made in the bakery so maybe they will

the purple tin · 17-09-2020 4:33pm

Homelander wrote: »

The classic response from idiots who are incapable of admitting they're wrong.

"You have too much time on your hands".

In response to a post I made, that's literally half the length of your quoted post.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 19-09-2020 9:47am

I bought a tub of yoghurt in Tesco.

I wasn't diligent enough to check the label...... Sweeteners . It's going straight into the bin.

Why do yoghurts have to be sweetened anyway, with sugar or sweeteners? It's so hard to find a proper natural dairy yoghurt that's full fat.

Capra · 19-09-2020 11:09am

I don't drink a lot of soft drinks but I would always get a coke with a big mac meal or that type of thing. And I would occasionally have a can of coke, either coke zero or real coke.

In the last couple of months it tastes absolutely horrible to me. Not just the way diet coke always tasted crap, but it actually tastes like there is something wrong with it. And it's not just Coca Cola. I tried a few of the knock off brands from Lidl/Aldi and they taste the same to me too. A really horrible and unpleasant chemical like taste.

Do taste buds change suddenly to the extent that I would start disliking something I used to enjoy that much? Or has the sugar tax meant that all soft drinks are now being produced in a different manner? If it has then it is working because I will never be buying another can of that stuff again.

Rodney Bathgate · 19-09-2020 11:10am

I’ve only had 4 soft drinks in the last 6 months. Can hardly remember what they tasted like before.

Away With The Fairies · 19-09-2020 11:13am

It's the sweeteners that make the drink taste bike. All the drinks have sweeteners now except original coca-cola.

Edit: I love the new drink Enerzaid, can be bought on their website. They gave the two fingers to lucozade and created a glucose drink with sugar.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-09-2020 11:21am

I like diet coke better than real coke!

Man Vs ManUre · 19-09-2020 11:22am

You must have the coronavirus if you suddenly don’t like the taste of coke.

AllForIt · 19-09-2020 11:22am

I grew out of drinking soft drinks by my late 20's.

It's all hard drinks for me now.

NSAman · 19-09-2020 11:26am

See where it is made.

The difference in the taste of cokes is amazing. If made in Northern Ireland it tastes woeful. It could be to do with the water they use.

Different countries have different tasting coke.

When I say coke I only drink Diet Coke / Coke Zero / Pepsi Max.

Necro · 19-09-2020 11:38am

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Capt'n Midnight · 20-09-2020 3:12pm

barney shamrock wrote: »

What the hell has happened Cadburys?
A tasty treat for decades ruined overnight by a US takeover and the addition of palm oil.

Coca butter costs money. Money that could be going to shareholders. Nestle use worse chocolate too.

Nestle took over Rowntree Mackintosh and replaced coca with sugar

After Eights, Aero, Quality Street, Rolo, Kit Kat, Smarties, Yorkie became insipid muck.

Irish Cadbury's tasted nicer in the old days because they used Irish milk.

The UK made stuff was meh even back then. Nowadays it's worse.
FFS those clowns tried replacing 6 dairy milk creme eggs with 5 ovals with generic chocolate and hoped no one would notice ! That folks is how to trash a brand and alienate lifelong customers.

Cadbury's and Rowntree Mackintosh were brands worth paying a premium for against the really nasty alternatives of old. No more. They aren't worth paying extra over compared to the better offerings from the German supermarkets.

Booms · 20-09-2020 3:45pm

EBE - if you haven't tried it, look for Onken Natural Set yoghurt - the full fat one is the dark blue tub.

Agree with everyone about the artificial sweeteners. Even mouthwash contains it now - and I haven't been able to find Original (gold) Listerene anywhere!

The magic number seems to be 12/13g sugar per 100ml if you want the kind of soft drink we had growing up!

GazzaL · 20-09-2020 10:18pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I bought a tub of yoghurt in Tesco.

I wasn't diligent enough to check the label...... Sweeteners . It's going straight into the bin.

Why do yoghurts have to be sweetened anyway, with sugar or sweeteners? It's so hard to find a proper natural dairy yoghurt that's full fat.

The full fat yoghurts are better for you than the low fat bull**** ones because:
1) Certain fats are very good for you
2) Low fat yoghurts are laced with all manner of sugar and sweeteners to make them taste somewhat palatable as they have been stripped of their goodness

I agree it's very hard to find a proper full fat natural yoghurt. I normally buy Fage full fat Greek yoghurt.

20-09-2020 10:29pm

Twice in the past two weeks I have bought 1.5 litre bottles of coke which upon opening tasted flat - is there something wrong with them? First one bought in Aldi, second one in Tesco.

the purple tin · 20-09-2020 10:50pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Coca butter costs money. Money that could be going to shareholders. Nestle use worse chocolate too.

Nestle took over Rowntree Mackintosh and replaced coca with sugar

After Eights, Aero, Quality Street, Rolo, Kit Kat, Smarties, Yorkie became insipid muck.

Irish Cadbury's tasted nicer in the old days because they used Irish milk.

The UK made stuff was meh even back then. Nowadays it's worse.
FFS those clowns tried replacing 6 dairy milk creme eggs with 5 ovals with generic chocolate and hoped no one would notice ! That folks is how to trash a brand and alienate lifelong customers.

Cadbury's and Rowntree Mackintosh were brands worth paying a premium for against the really nasty alternatives of old. No more. They aren't worth paying extra over compared to the better offerings from the German supermarkets.

Something else that seems to affect the flavour of Cadburys is when they stopped wrapping it in foil and changed to plastic. I think it leaves a slight aftertaste in the chocolate.

the purple tin · 21-09-2020 8:39am

Aldi and Lil have some nice chocolate brands, Moser Roth. Tesco own brand milk chocolate is lovely as well.
They melt in your mouth like Dairy Milk used too. Nowadays DM just turns into a claggy mush that sticks to the roof of your mouth.

21-09-2020 9:04am

I just imagine the people working on changing the recipes talking with contempt about the customer:

"they're only stupid low class scumbags, they won't know any better if we take sugar out and replace it with other cheaper stuff that is sweet. I mean, what's the issue? It's fewer calories. And they really could do with eating fewer calories. Have you seen some of these people? And they won't even read the ingredients anyway. If any person gets in touch to complain, we can just stonewall them with some bull**** comment about how our "great new flavour offer the same great taste but with less sugar". They should be grateful we are helping them eat better"

s8n · 21-09-2020 11:09am

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I got breakfast out in a local pub. I took a taste of the beans, grimaced, forced myself to swallow them and didn't eat the rest. My family, the rest of whom were eating a breakfast not including beans asked me what was wrong and accused me of being a "sugar addict". The beans didn't taste crap because of the lack of sugar, they tasted rubbish because of the dreadful artificial sweeteners. Sugar free seems to be the standard nowadays.Give customers the choice and don't assume. The girl who served us had very broken English so I didn't bother saying anything.

I tried to find a nice bottle of squash, haven't had one in years, ALL have sweeteners.

Even bastard mouthwash has sweeteners. I like the antiseptic taste of traditional mouthwash but corsydyl, a very expensive brand is the only brand like that now. All others are polluted with sweeteners.

The only soft drinks with real sugar are Pepsi, Club Orange and Coca Cola - all others have aspartame, sucralose etc.

Sweeteners can suck my left one. Just because Jacinta the local fatso can't keep the Snickers and Coke out of her gob for five minutes normal healthy people can no longer enjoy an occasional treat.

Anyone have a time machine to take me back to my childhood in the 90's?

why were you having breakfast in a pub ??

Dubl07 · 21-09-2020 9:19pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I just imagine the people working on changing the recipes talking with contempt about the customer:

"they're only stupid low class scumbags, they won't know any better if we take sugar out and replace it with other cheaper stuff that is sweet. I mean, what's the issue? It's fewer calories. And they really could do with eating fewer calories. Have you seen some of these people? And they won't even read the ingredients anyway. If any person gets in touch to complain, we can just stonewall them with some bull**** comment about how our "great new flavour offer the same great taste but with less sugar". They should be grateful we are helping them eat better"

Weirdly, it's people with 'big bones' that suck down a few litres of diet drinks a day. Sweeteners totally mess up their systems.

Capt'n Midnight · 26-09-2020 2:33pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Something else that seems to affect the flavour of Cadburys is when they stopped wrapping it in foil and changed to plastic. I think it leaves a slight aftertaste in the chocolate.

Before that the foil wasn't sealed. Once I got a bar of Dairy Milk that hinted of mint because the bars were displayed beside packets of Polo Mints.

Tainted in a very good way.

But yeah when changes are made look like they are cost cutting, then it's usually cost cutting and that means other changes are likely too.

The problem is that shareholders are usually there to make money. If a company is giving a good return happy days. But if they think they can make more money by sweating the assets, including brands, and then rinse and repeat on other companies.

The classic example is Whaling. The argument for sustainable whaling is that the shareholders won't kill the golden goose. The counter argument is that they can make a literal killing exterminating the whales.

Yes they loose an income stream. But they get a pile of cash because they won't have to pay to replace the ships which they can use to buy a better income stream.

26-09-2020 2:41pm

Cheaper Muffins in the Petrol stations. Only €1 even without having to buy coffee.

"Blueberry" flavour apparently, tastes more like gone bad lemon

Jonathan1990 · 26-09-2020 6:37pm

So people can swear and cuss on this forum which is not allowed on most forums but not make threads like I make?

Montage of Feck · 26-09-2020 7:07pm

****

Greyfox · 26-09-2020 8:21pm

Its true soft drinks arent as nice but that just makes avoiding them that much easier. chocolate still tastes amazing though

New Home · 28-09-2020 6:51pm

This will sound weird, but... I only drink cola the odd time when I need a caffeine boost (e.g. if I'm tired but I have to drive), I find it works better and faster than coffee without the side effect of palpitations. Tea is good to keep you on an even keel, but it takes longer to act and there's a side effect (loo!) which might be an issue if you have to drive long distances. Anyway, I loathe artificial sweeteners, so every time I have to buy a bottle of cola I read the labels. Out of five supermarkets (Lidl, Tesco, Dunnes, Supervalu and Spar), only one kind of cola didn't have any artificial sweeteners listed: normal Pepsi Cola. All the other ones, including the supermarket own brands ones, had at least a part of artificial sweeteners, while normal Coke had both sugar AND sweeteners. Rotten. I think they started doing this on the pretence that they were becoming "healthier" drinks and because of the sugar tax, but I do believe it's all down to profit.

New Home · 28-09-2020 6:54pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I put aspartame up there with MSG in the 'people think it's bad for you but it's been proven it's not when taken in normal amounts' category. It's like saying coffee is bad for you if you drink 10 cups a day. Well duh. MSG and aspartame are bad for you if you abuse them, otherwise they're perfectly fine in normal amounts.

And MSG is found naturally in foods like soy sauce, Parmesan and mushrooms. Aspartame is not, as far as I know...

the purple tin · 28-09-2020 7:00pm

New Home wrote: »

This will sound weird, but... I only drink cola the odd time when I need a caffeine boost (e.g. if I'm tired but I have to drive), I find it works better and faster than coffee without the side effect of palpitations. Tea is good to keep you on an even keel, but it takes longer to act and there's a side effect (loo!) which might be an issue if you have to drive long distances. Anyway, I loathe artificial sweetener, so every time I have to buy a bottle of cola I read the labels. Out of five supermarkets (Lidl, Tesco, Dunnes, Supervalu and Spar), only one kind of cola didn't have any artificial sweeteners listed: normal Pepsi Cola. All the other ones, including the supermarket own brands ones, had at least a part of artificial sweeteners, while normal Coke had both sugar AND sweeteners. Rotten. I think they started doing this on the pretence that they were becoming "healthier" drinks and because of the sugar tax, but I do believe it's all down to profit.

Yes they save a fortune by using sweeteners. Aspartame for eg is 200 times sweeter than sugar so they can use a tiny amount compared to sugar. It's also cheaper to produce.

It's the same with chewing gum. I doubt there is a brand left anymore that uses just sugar and no sweeteners. (they don't always list it in ingredients, but if it says 'contains a source of phenylalanine' then it has aspartame.

Homelander · 28-09-2020 7:02pm

New Home wrote: »

And MSG is found naturally in foods like soy sauce, Parmesan and mushrooms. Aspartame is not, as far as I know...

Not really much of a point though. Loads of things that offer basically nothing but impartially negative effects on the human body occur naturally.

Being natural doesn't equal OK, just as being artificial doesn't automatically make it bad.

Montage of Feck · 28-09-2020 7:02pm

Jonathan1990 wrote: »

So people can swear and cuss on this forum which is not allowed on most forums but not make threads like I make?

Montage of Feck wrote: »

****

No you can't

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Outkast_IRE · 28-09-2020 7:05pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Aldi and Lil have some nice chocolate brands, Moser Roth. Tesco own brand milk chocolate is lovely as well.
They melt in your mouth like Dairy Milk used too. Nowadays DM just turns into a claggy mush that sticks to the roof of your mouth.

The Aldi Moser Roth was changed recently , i tried a bar of the white chocolate and also caramel and it was gone to muck.

The white chocolate used to use real vanilla pod , now its artificial. The caramel bar just tasted off.

New Home · 28-09-2020 7:07pm

There are some brands of chewing gums that use xylitol instead, which comes from birch bark, IIRC. Peppersmith, found in health food shops, is an example.

New Home · 28-09-2020 7:11pm

Homelander wrote: »

Not really much of a point though. Loads of things that offer basically nothing but impartially negative effects on the human body occur naturally.

Being natural doesn't equal OK, just as being artificial doesn't automatically make it bad.

You're absolutely right, but I only I meant it in the sense of not demonising something that can otherwise be found already in foods. Of course, sulphur is natural and there are traces of it in certain foods, but I wouldn't recommend shovelling spoonfuls of the stuff in your curry, for instance.

the purple tin · 28-09-2020 8:12pm

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

The Aldi Moser Roth was changed recently , i tried a bar of the white chocolate and also caramel and it was gone to muck.

The white chocolate used to use real vanilla pod , now its artificial. The caramel bar just tasted off.

Dubl07 · 29-09-2020 7:56am

New Home wrote: »

There are some brands of chewing gums that use xylitol instead, which comes from birch bark, IIRC. Peppersmith, found in health food shops, is an example.

Xylitol can be fatal for dogs. It's not adequately flagged on packaging. Even Bach Rescue Remedy Pastilles use it as a sweetener.

New Home · 29-09-2020 9:08am

And to cats, too.

Laughing with Me · 29-09-2020 10:39am

Deleted User wrote: »

The cúnts ruined Lucozade :mad:

Since when though? Haven't had it in about 5 years.

monkeysnapper · 29-09-2020 10:45am

I was going out on a long cycle a few weeks ago in hills around co Kerry and I was looking for something to put in my 2 bottles ..... absolute nightmare!!!! Everything sugar free

Had to go down shops to buy lucozade energy .....and some jellies ,,,, and some chocolate...

One of the bars I bought I thought was a flapjack but turned out to be a mush of rich chocolate ..... there was defo sugar in that .... I nearly shat myslef trying to find a good spot in the bushes..... the things you get yourself into

Homelander · 29-09-2020 11:00am

Dubl07 wrote: »

Xylitol can be fatal for dogs. It's not adequately flagged on packaging. Even Bach Rescue Remedy Pastilles use it as a sweetener.

In large quantities. A dog isn't going to keel over from eating a few pastilles.

Same with chocolate. Obviously, it's toxic for dogs, and only an idiot would willingly give a dog chocolate, but equally a dog wouldn't collapse from eating a few squares.

Dubl07 · 29-09-2020 11:26am

Homelander wrote: »

In large quantities. A dog isn't going to keel over from eating a few pastilles.

Same with chocolate. Obviously, it's toxic for dogs, and only an idiot would willingly give a dog chocolate, but equally a dog wouldn't collapse from eating a few squares.

Oh really?????? Are you a veterinary expert?

I suggest you take a look at this: Xylitol vs chocolate lethality for dogs.

Homelander · 29-09-2020 11:38am

No, not a vet, but even from that graphic you posted, a Labrador would need to eat about 100+ pastilles for it to be fatal.

Not to mention, about 2KG of chocolate.

I'm not claiming they're not toxic, but realistically, the quantities required are very large.

Chocolate is way more dangerous because dogs generally like chocolate.

Most dogs are not that interested in gum or pastilles.

Grapes or Raisins are actually far more toxic and far more likely to be around the house within reach of a dog.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 07-11-2020 7:34pm

What drinks nowadays have no artificial sweeteners or Stevia crap. Obviously apart from water and milk.

Coca Cola
Pepsi
Club Orange
Orangina

Are there any squashes or cordials? I think they're all ruined now.

Yikesoc · 07-11-2020 7:35pm

Irish water.

Necro · 07-11-2020 7:50pm

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Mr Meanor · 07-11-2020 7:54pm

Xylitol turns your poo into pee

Poor Uncle Tom · 07-11-2020 8:01pm

Mr Meanor wrote: »

Xylitol turns your poo into pee

It's all in the vowels I guess! :pac:

Artificial fucκing sweeteners in everything everything tastes like shıt now.

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