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Artificial fucκing sweeteners in everything everything tastes like shıt now.

  • 13-09-2020 1:35pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    I got breakfast out in a local pub. I took a taste of the beans, grimaced, forced myself to swallow them and didn't eat the rest. My family, the rest of whom were eating a breakfast not including beans asked me what was wrong and accused me of being a "sugar addict". The beans didn't taste crap because of the lack of sugar, they tasted rubbish because of the dreadful artificial sweeteners. Sugar free seems to be the standard nowadays.Give customers the choice and don't assume. The girl who served us had very broken English so I didn't bother saying anything.

    I tried to find a nice bottle of squash, haven't had one in years, ALL have sweeteners.

    Even bastard mouthwash has sweeteners. I like the antiseptic taste of traditional mouthwash but corsydyl, a very expensive brand is the only brand like that now. All others are polluted with sweeteners.

    The only soft drinks with real sugar are Pepsi, Club Orange and Coca Cola - all others have aspartame, sucralose etc.

    Sweeteners can suck my left one. Just because Jacinta the local fatso can't keep the Snickers and Coke out of her gob for five minutes normal healthy people can no longer enjoy an occasional treat.

    Anyone have a time machine to take me back to my childhood in the 90's?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I tried to find a nice bottle of squash, haven't had one in years, ALL have sweeteners.

    A couple of the M&S brand squashes have no artificial sweeteners.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The cúnts ruined Lucozade :mad:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah I agree, would be a food libertarian also - if you’re obese don’t go guzzling fizzy drinks by the litre. There really is no excuse nowadays with so much information out there, nobody isn’t aware sweets and soft drinks etc are unhealthy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    iguana wrote: »
    A couple of the M&S brand squashes have no artificial sweeteners.

    Whilst Stevia is a "natural sweetener" it still doesn't cut it. Let me have my proper white gold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Errashareesh


    Yep EBE - this is a gripe of mine too. Used to love the very occasional Ribena or San Pellegrino orange. Both awful now.

    AND... that sweetener crap makes me really hungry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,059 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Are these the same guys who ruined Monster Munch?

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Thats nanny state Ireland for ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    I got breakfast out in a local pub. I took a taste of the beans, grimaced, forced myself to swallow them and didn't eat the rest. My family, the rest of whom were eating a breakfast not including beans asked me what was wrong and accused me of being a "sugar addict". The beans didn't taste crap because of the lack of sugar, they tasted rubbish because of the dreadful artificial sweeteners. Sugar free seems to be the standard nowadays.Give customers the choice and don't assume. The girl who served us had very broken English so I didn't bother saying anything.

    I tried to find a nice bottle of squash, haven't had one in years, ALL have sweeteners.

    Even bastard mouthwash has sweeteners. I like the antiseptic taste of traditional mouthwash but corsydyl, a very expensive brand is the only brand like that now. All others are polluted with sweeteners.

    The only soft drinks with real sugar are Pepsi, Club Orange and Coca Cola - all others have aspartame, sucralose etc.

    Sweeteners can suck my left one. Just because Jacinta the local fatso can't keep the Snickers and Coke out of her gob for five minutes normal healthy people can no longer enjoy an occasional treat.

    Anyone have a time machine to take me back to my childhood in the 90's?

    This pisses me off too. Sweeteners give me extreme cramping, bloating and diarrhoea. It means I have to avoid anything and everything with them in it which has become a minefield and a nightmare to eat out. You’d think most foods have no reason to be artificially sweetened but if there is something untoward in the dish, my stomach tells me straight away and it lasts for days. It means I have to be really careful anywhere and everywhere I go and if I do choose to “go mad” by having a pizza or a burger (which shouldn’t have that crap in them), I need to brace myself for a five day rollercoaster. The only solution I’ve found to this is preparing all my own foods from scratch. If I don’t, something, somewhere, always catches me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,282 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    It's because people are stupid and can't be trusted to not shovel mars bars into their mouths


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Could you have asked for sachets of real sugar, then stirred the contents into the baked beans?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Whilst Stevia is a "natural sweetener" it still doesn't cut it. Let me have my proper white gold.

    Stevia is manky shïte too. It's ruined 7up. The M&S Orange and Apple&Mango squashes are sugar sweetened only afair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    I can see artificial sweeteners being the next health issue in 10 years time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Stevia is rubbish. Tropicana has/had a 50/50 juice. 50% regular OJ then the remainder water and Stevia. RRP was more expensive than the regular Tropicana OJ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Completely agree. A lot of soft drinks amongst other things really do taste dreadful now.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You'll get used to it after a while. I wouldn't worry too much about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    The cúnts ruined Lucozade :mad:

    Hairy japanese bastards.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Is Lilt still good?

    Here comes the Lilt man....Lilt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭323


    daheff wrote: »
    I can see artificial sweeteners being the next health issue in 10 years time.


    Agree, but think it may be sooner than that, Aspartame's been in use under numerous names for almost 40 years so lots of evidence on its damaging effect, much worse than the sugar it replaces.

    How it ever got approved is beyond me, though does makes for interesting reading.
    But sure the US FDA approved it, so must be safe for everyone else to approve too.

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    Could you not just buy a sugar free version and lob in a few teaspoons yourself ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    OP sounds bitter...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    Could you have asked for sachets of real sugar, then stirred the contents into the baked beans?

    How is that going to remove the vile taste/aftertaste of artificial sweeteners?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Is Lilt still good?

    Here comes the Lilt man....Lilt!

    Nah. Not a totally tropical taste anymore man


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    Thespoofer wrote: »
    Could you not just buy a sugar free version and lob in a few teaspoons yourself ?

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Nah. Not a totally tropical taste anymore man

    Bastards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Are these the same guys who ruined Monster Munch?

    Foot scientists - shower of absolute bastards.

    Even though to answer the OP, beans have always been disgusting. Gross.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    This is a good enough a reason to Start a War, Not a Great Reason but Good Enough ! !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    daheff wrote: »
    I can see artificial sweeteners being the next health issue in 10 years time.

    What do you mean? Anything put in our food pases rigorous human testing, there won't be any surprises there. Safety profile of most sweeteners is very good and is for sure much healthier than consuming obscene amouns of sugar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,826 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I'd be hard pressed to buy anything containing sweeteners. They've been around a long time but I just can't develop a taste for them at all.

    Cordials without sweeteners are difficult to come by, I used to enjoy an occasional lemon barley water but that's gone by the wayside now.

    As for people guzzling down sugar, I see a girl in one of the local supermarkets working at the self service checkouts, probably weighs 20 stone and always has a Coke or a club orange in her hand. Much like taxing cigarettes, people who want to ingest crap will pay any price for the privilege.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭appledrop


    7up is ruined forever.


    Used to be a classic Irish staple now its disgusting because they have 'improved it with sweenters'

    If I want a frizzy drink, I want a full fat one.



    Not my problem if other people csnr limit their intake of sugar, I can.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Beanntraigheach


    The 'diet'/sugar-free version of most soft drinks has been available for decades now, so those who want that option have long been catered for.
    The replacement of sugar with artificial sweeteners has feck all to do with concerns about health and everything to do with the fact that the artificial sweeteners are cheaper for the manufacturer - so they charge the consumer the same price for a product which now costs them less to produce.
    Bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    What do you mean? Anything put in our food pases rigorous human testing, there won't be any surprises there. Safety profile of most sweeteners is very good and is for sure much healthier than consuming obscene amouns of sugar


    What do you mean? Sugar also passed rigorous testing and no one would argue now that its safety profile is very good for human health.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭daheff


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    What do you mean? Anything put in our food pases rigorous human testing, there won't be any surprises there. Safety profile of most sweeteners is very good and is for sure much healthier than consuming obscene amouns of sugar

    I mean just cos they say it's ok doesn't actually prove it. We've never consumed the amount of artificial sweeteners in these volumes in the past, so don't really know how it will affect people's health.

    It could be fine...it might not.....I'm betting that there's been a loads brown bags changing hands to allow this happen.....and we find out later that actually these sweeteners are causing X/Y/Z health problems for us.

    Plenty of things in the past were said to be good for us (cigarettes, Guinness etc). So God knows really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    They actually turn my stomach as well as tasting rotten.

    Have got caught out buying yogurts with the fecking things in them. One spoonful and binned the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,360 ✭✭✭stampydmonkey


    Ah I'd love a can of lilt...thanks for that.

    Or cidona or lucozade NRG (in the yellow glass bottle, that stuff was like acid)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    The cúnts ruined Lucozade :mad:

    I don't get the whole less sugar in Lucozade.. the whole point in it it was a high glucose drink, a precursor to the energy drinks we have now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭circadian


    Is Lilt still good?

    Here comes the Lilt man....Lilt!

    Had a can of lilt a few years ago, as a treat a d trip down memory lane.

    It's horrendous. They've absolutely butchered what was once a refreshing beverage to a weird lack of flavour but astringent can of piss.

    Thankfully Club remains the same but the diet versions are probably of the worst things I've ever drank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    The one that really annoys be is Schweppes tonic. Even the non-light one - the normal one has artificial sweeteners. What’s the deal with that!? I don’t wanna be paying hand over fist for some English hipster tonic just to avoid bloody sweetners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭barney shamrock


    What the hell has happened Cadburys?
    A tasty treat for decades ruined overnight by a US takeover and the addition of palm oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    What the hell has happened Cadburys?
    A tasty treat for decades ruined overnight by a US takeover and the addition of palm oil.
    Some of the cadburys bars have a not very nice aftertaste now, a more waxy sort of texture to them as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭893bet


    One of the reasons I no longer go to subway with their no options but sweetened drinks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭blueskys


    Worked in the states a while back and went into a supermarket to buy porridge or oats as they call it. They had every type of sweetened/flavoured oats bar normal unsweetened porridge oats. Even the bread had sweeteners in it. Obesity is directly related to this muck. It's much cheaper to produce than sugar and is highly addictive. Have learned to check labels thoroughly especially anything stating zero fat/sugar etc..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Amen OP, well said. F'uck ALL sweeteners except sugar. That said, even though high fructose corn syrup (which isn't in Irish food usually) can't be properly metabolised by the human body it is still infinitely preferable to any low/zero calorie sweeteners. You don't get a satisfying dopamine response from non-calorific sweeteners. I despise when manufacturers change recipes to add these bullsh'it non-sugar sweeteners. EVERYONE PREFERS THE OLD FORMULA AND WOULD PAY MORE TO KEEP IT, YOU SOULLESS CORPORATE SCUM. And stop trying to make Coca Cola Zero appear to be the flagship product ... oooooo your marketing department is sooooo clever :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    The biggest shift in taste (for the worse) due to sweeteners was coco pops. My grandmother used to feed me these for breakfast in the 80s and the chocolate taste was nothing short of magical. I can’t begin to describe it but imagining it actually places me back in that time. Wind forward to the mid 90s and the “great new taste” as it was marketed as had ruined a childhood staple forever more. I feel sorry for today’s kids because they will never know what it was like to eat coco pops on the 80s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The sweettooth folks out there can't win, use sugar and become obese (+200% chance covidy take down).
    Or you have those x28 cans per day of diet cola, and go the way of J'Daly:
    Golf icon John Daly (only 54), who used to drink 28 cans of Diet Coke and smoke 40 cigarettes a day, reveals he has bladder cancer and has been left hoping for 'a miracle'
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/article-8721773/Two-time-major-winner-John-Daly-diagnosed-bladder-cancer.html

    TBH you can't beat a nice simple and plain pint of 5-stage filtered, vortexed, and hexagonally re-structured water, after it's been given 432hz.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jayesdiem wrote: »
    The biggest shift in taste (for the worse) due to sweeteners was coco pops. My grandmother used to feed me these for breakfast in the 80s and the chocolate taste was nothing short of magical. I can’t begin to describe it but imagining it actually places me back in that time. Wind forward to the mid 90s and the “great new taste” as it was marketed as had ruined a childhood staple forever more. I feel sorry for today’s kids because they will never know what it was like to eat coco pops on the 80s.

    You should pick up a box of sugar-and-artificial-flavour-laden American cereal sometime. The dopamine hit is amazing and reminiscent of the impact sugary cereals used to provide when I was a kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    The sweettooth folks out there can't win, use sugar and become obese (+200% chance covidy take down).

    Or you have those x28 cans per day of diet cola, and go the way of J'Daly:


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/article-8721773/Two-time-major-winner-John-Daly-diagnosed-bladder-cancer.html

    He’s obese, smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish. He had bigger issues than artificial sweeteners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Love me some sweetener.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tayto Prawn Cocktail - another product destroying itself with some artifical sweetener .. like surely they don't need to add it to crisps? Can taste it immediately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Jayesdiem wrote: »
    He’s obese, smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish. He had bigger issues than artificial sweeteners.
    The youngish (54) fella sure partied hard.

    But those x28 cans of diet coke can't of been much help for his bladder. Besides, smokers usually get lung issues, and drinkers usually get liver/kidney damage.

    Phissing out x28 cans of artifically sweet could well have played havoc on the aul bladder bag, the poor chap.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    appledrop wrote: »
    7up is ruined forever.


    Used to be a classic Irish staple now its disgusting because they have 'improved it with sweenters'

    If I want a frizzy drink, I want a full fat one.



    Not my problem if other people csnr limit their intake of sugar, I can.

    Of all the fizzy drinks, the difference in taste of 7-up is surely among the very worst. The bitter disgusting taste of sweeteners is overpowering. The people making these drinks must surely know how horrible everyone else is going to think they are before they change the recipes?


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