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893bet · 03-05-2021 3:17pm

I am surprised you haven’t bought this one. You have expressed admiration for it a lot of times.

I don’t think it’s been discontinued yet and will have sold in relative smaller numbers (assumption) so is safe money for a play with.

banie01 · 03-05-2021 3:25pm

893bet wrote: »

I don’t think it’s been discontinued yet and will have sold in relative smaller numbers (assumption) so is safe money for a play with.

If memory serves, the last time I was in Keane's in Limerick there was one on Display.
Very nearly pulled the trigger for a rolex at "retail" but its not to my taste at all.

Fitz II · 03-05-2021 3:29pm

Wibbs wrote: »

their "heritage" in aviation in the 30's(and after) they reference is up there with Pateks, IE bugger all......

I dont really get into that stuff cause its all marketing fluff... I do takes with it in and its boring before you get to the meat of why most watch these vids and very far from why most people buy these watches.

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

What I took from the video was 'it's all about the dial' which was a bit like stating the obvious. I mean if you don't like the dial you're hardly going to buy it unless of course you're so desperate to have Rolex on your wrist that availability/affordability is all that matters.

Exactly, some watches are all about the braclet, some the brand, some the complication. This ones main feature is the dial.

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

What about the movement? What about the 'wristshot' where you share your wrist-size?

Did a few takes with that into, but what can you say about a time only 3131 that you cant see. I had limited footage on this one so was really trying to be concise. I do find movement specs in general fairly boring. Might put them up as text in the future just to have them there....good point. Didnt want to share my wrist size on the wrist shots as I understand that is a copyright phrase and also the watch was not sized to me properly.

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

Apart from the constructive criticism I liked that it was short and to the point without the usual YT waffle.

Think I prefer short format too, hard to know unless you stick a whole bunch of vids out there and what to see what people prefer. I find the circa 15-20 minute vid fairly dull, mostly I want to start and the end bit. Appreciate the feedback. Might do various lengths and see what goes down best, easier to do on my own watches where I can reshoot if I miss something. I will improve with practice.

893bet wrote: »

I am surprised you haven’t bought this one. You have expressed admiration for it a lot of times.

Have come close alright, but just didnt when I had the milgauss as they are practically identical. I think the dial is cool, but its one where I can understand detractors views also.

Cyclingtourist · 03-05-2021 4:09pm

Fitz II wrote: »

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Exactly, some watches are all about the braclet, some the brand, some the complication. This ones main feature is the dial.

Did a few takes with that into, but what can you say about a time only 3131 that you cant see. I had limited footage on this one so was really trying to be concise. I do find movement specs in general fairly boring. Might put them up as text in the future just to have them there....good point. Didnt want to share my wrist size on the wrist shots as I understand that is a copyright phrase and also the watch was not sized to me properly.

Think I prefer short format too, hard to know unless you stick a whole bunch of vids out there and what to see what people prefer. I find the circa 15-20 minute vid fairly dull, mostly I want to start and the end bit. Appreciate the feedback. .

Have come close alright, but just didnt when I had the milgauss as they are practically identical. I think the dial is cool, but its one where I can understand detractors views also.

Think you quoted me a couple of times and attributed them to Wibbs. Doesn't really bother me but it's probably something you might want to fix.

redlead · 03-05-2021 4:48pm

The beauty of the explorer is that it is a very good quality basic watch that does exactly what it says on the tin. No bullsh1t. The strength of the brand dictates its price which is way over what it should be but you can't really blame Rolex for that. The Air King is just a bit meh. Looks like a bit of a lazy mish mash of parts as Fitz alluded to in his presentation of the watch, albeit it that it wasn't necessarily his opinion. Is that really the rolex anyone wants? Really? At least the Millgaus is funky enough to properly differentiate itself. Might not be everyone's cup of tea but at least its unique. The same can be said of the yachtmaster II. Has anyone ever actually bought one of those? Kudos for doing something a bit different though.

They should stop making OPs and Air Kings and make more subs and GMT IIs. The age old complaint.

Fitz II · 03-05-2021 6:08pm

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

Think you quoted me a couple of times and attributed them to Wibbs. Doesn't really bother me but it's probably something you might want to fix.

Everting looks attributed correctly to me?

hitemfrank · 03-05-2021 6:13pm

Possibly a boards error - they definitely showed as quotes by Wibbs earlier.

Wibbs · 03-05-2021 6:19pm

Fitz II wrote: »

I dont really get into that stuff cause its all marketing fluff... I do takes with it in and its boring before you get to the meat of why most watch these vids and very far from why most people buy these watches.

Oh true enough, though the brands seem to think it's pretty important as they're all at the marketing fluff around such things. I suppose the market position of Rolex is much more at the luxury/status transmission end so it's less in play than say Omega's Moonwatch. Plus of all the brand's fans on forums and the like their "own" brand is the best of course, though they're more likely to make corrections about dubious claims whereas Rolex fans tend buy the heritage koolaid far more than others.

Think I prefer short format too, hard to know unless you stick a whole bunch of vids out there and what to see what people prefer. I find the circa 15-20 minute vid fairly dull, mostly I want to start and the end bit.

+ 1. Shorter is generally better. In most cases of youtuber produced vids I prefer ten minutes or under, very much so in reviews, whether that be watches or anything else. Long format is fine if it's a documentary, but not a review. Your vids are hitting the sweet spot there.

Cyclingtourist wrote: »

Think you quoted me a couple of times and attributed them to Wibbs. Doesn't really bother me but it's probably something you might want to fix.

Sorted, by the powah vested in me...

Wibbs · 03-05-2021 6:21pm

hitemfrank wrote: »

Possibly a boards error - they definitely showed as quotes by Wibbs earlier.

Possibly and it wouldn't surprise me, though when editing it showed the wrong name, so I just tweaked them back.

Wibbs · 03-05-2021 6:24pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

If they only made subs and GMT’s the Rolex world would be very boring

Aye, but them and the Daytona are the models of the brand. Not a bad lineup either. Omega are the Speedy and the Seamaster. I do get the feeling that the other Rolex lines, which tend to be cheaper and more available are often bought as a stopgap by some to get the name on the wrist. Less so the Milgauss though. That's got a distinctive following. Cellini are another kettle of fish.

Thirdfox · 03-05-2021 7:57pm

Sub 10 and over 10 minutes apparently has a big impact on monetisation if that's at all important - you see people padding out videos to hit the 10min mark because of that. But I think the duration should fit the content - though I could imagine a Fitz 10 min rant against Vostok easily…

scwazrh · 03-05-2021 9:07pm

Wibbs wrote: »

AI do get the feeling that the other Rolex lines, which tend to be cheaper and more available are often bought as a stopgap by some to get the name on the wrist.

Guilty of that with an 39mm op

Wibbs · 03-05-2021 9:14pm

scwazrh wrote: »

Guilty of that with an 39mm op

Ah I dunno S, the OP is a very nice timepiece.

scwazrh · 03-05-2021 9:18pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Ah I dunno S, the OP is a very nice timepiece.

It is but I certainly wouldn’t have bought it if a sub was available.

Fitz II · 03-05-2021 9:32pm

I have done this settling dozens of times. The odd time I fall in love, but usually the watch doesnt stick. There is such FOMO with Rolex at the moment that people will take anything they are given. I try to be super honest with myself now and a couple of friends are on speed dial and warned to tell me when I am doing it. But it has to be said that at the moment buying any Rolex even as a settle will see you right, shame its not the same with other brands. Would love to try a few depreciation free Zeniths or Breguets.

Wibbs · 03-05-2021 9:43pm

Fitz II wrote: »

But it has to be said that at the moment buying any Rolex even as a settle will see you right,

Very much this. It;s their unique selling point. So even if you grow to hate whatever one it is, you'll get your money back. Can't really go wrong there. That's how the vintage market has always worked, but Rolex are able to pull that off with brand new watches still being made. Major kudos there.

shame its not the same with other brands. Would love to try a few depreciation free Zeniths or Breguets.

On the other hand buying used means some other poor bugger takes the hit and you get a cheaper watch.

Time · 03-05-2021 11:54pm

Have to disagree with ye on the Rolex thing. Maybe on S/S models you’ll be ok. But for PM models I don’t think that’s the case. I’d expect a loss if I sold my YM tomorrow, in saying that I wanted one for years anyway so it doesn’t matter to me because it’s not for selling on.

unkel · 03-05-2021 11:59pm

Time wrote: »

Have to disagree with ye on the Rolex thing. Maybe on S/S models you’ll be ok. But for PM models I don’t think that’s the case. I’d expect a loss if I sold my YM tomorrow

I'm pretty sure the comments were only really about S/S models. PM a different kettle of fish.

Fitz II · 04-05-2021 10:47am

PM does still lag behind on a lot of models with a few exceptions, but they are strengthening all the time, particular Daytonas, GMT's and Subs. In precious metal you are correct you have to judge each watch individually.

Fitz II · 08-05-2021 8:14am

Patek 5205g Annual Calendar Moonphase Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kRooiPQ6p4

https://youtu.be/4kRooiPQ6p4

Wibbs · 08-05-2021 8:30am

Nicely done again.

I love the case on it. Those fluted lugs. Niiice. I suppose the massive drop in used values is down to sports watches being the thing now? Dress watches just don't have the current ear of the market at all. Which means of course if that's someone's thing it's the right time to buy.

Cyclingtourist · 08-05-2021 10:13am

Nice review. Not in my 'price bracket' unfortunately but still interesting. I've subscribed.:)

893bet · 08-05-2021 10:48am

I am a little sorry to see this one go, as you are. But like Archie says “it’s got to hurt”. There is no one here that is of unlimited means so we have to sell to buy, and sometimes it means selling one that hurts a little.

Pure class though.

banie01 · 08-05-2021 11:00am

Beautiful watch and another really on point and tight review.

I agree with your point on Deployant clasp too.
Tang buckles at that price point are a disappointment, I can't imagine forking out for a custom strap and then having near immediate heavy wear on it.

The pointer use is a nice addition too, particularly on a complicated dial.
Look forward to seeing what replaces this in your collection.

Fitz II · 08-05-2021 11:04am

893bet wrote: »

I am a little sorry to see this one go, as you are. But like Archie says “it’s got to hurt”. There is no one here that is of unlimited means so we have to sell to buy, and sometimes it means selling one that hurts a little.

Pure class though.

Look its cost me absolutely nothing to try this watch, and a awesome watch it is. What's really lacking is my use for it. It will be nice in the future to be able to look back on the vids I am making, almost like I get to keep a part of the watch.

I hope the sacrifice is worth it for the next one....Working on a good few other reviews, thinking a Seadweller next. One a week is about as much as I can do without it becoming a chore and loosing interest.

banie01 wrote: »

The pointer use is a nice addition too, particularly on a complicated dial.

Oh never though its just the little tool for pressing the pins without scratching the case, must get another that one is gone off to Watchfinder with the watch.

893bet · 08-05-2021 11:05am

banie01 wrote: »

Beautiful watch and another really on point and tight review.

I agree with your point on Deployant clasp too.
Tang buckles at that price point are a disappointment, I can't imagine forking out for a custom strap and then having near immediate heavy wear on it.

The pointer use is a nice addition too, particularly on a complicated dial.
Look forward to seeing what replaces this in your collection.

Traditionally these watches are tang and buckle at this level. It’s def a disappointment. Not to worry. Should you choose you can buy a depolyant......anywhere from 2-5k type money in precious metal.....

I have heard Fitz is bulk buying Vostok.

banie01 · 08-05-2021 11:18am

893bet wrote: »

Traditionally these watches are tang and buckle at this level. It’s def a disappointment. Not to worry. Should you choose you can buy a depolyant......anywhere from 2-5k type money in precious metal.....

I have heard Fitz is bulk buying Vostok.

I heard he is buying the factory and adding a tooth engraving to the crown of every new Fitztok!

Yeah, appreciate that the Deployant particularly in a PM is a fair chunk of expense alright.
I'm on the hunt for a VC stainless one myself at the mo to go with the straps on order.

893bet · 08-05-2021 12:13pm

banie01 wrote: »

I heard he is buying the factory and adding a tooth engraving to the crown of every new Fitztok!

Yeah, appreciate that the Deployant particularly in a PM is a fair chunk of expense alright.
I'm on the hunt for a VC stainless one myself at the mo to go with the straps on order.

I think the stainless one is 600 for the 2nd generation version from the boutique.

banie01 · 08-05-2021 12:15pm

893bet wrote: »

I think the stainless one is 600 for the 2nd generation version from the boutique.

I'll probably end up going with that our trying to hunt down a 2nd hand one once I see how the leather ends up fitting the watch head.

banie01 · 08-05-2021 12:20pm

Fitz II wrote: »

Oh never though its just the little tool for pressing the pins without scratching the case, must get another that one is gone off to Watchfinder with the watch.

I'd guessed it was a pusher alright. It's the 1st review I've watched where the reviewer made use of something, anything

To point out specific details, rather than just rely on hand waving and the viewer making a guess.

Its a small thing, but as someone with not a lot of watch knowledge.
It does make a difference IMO.
Imagine not knowing what a chapter ring, rehaut, guilloche or any other of the terms that quickly become part and parcel of watch watching are?
That little pointer makes so much clear immediately, versus the WF standard of watch the gloves, watch the watch.

Quick and simple clarification as you go, and I liked it.

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