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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    I dont. WWE seem to.

    Survivor Series could have easily been:
    Shield, Orton + 1 (Triple H?) vs. Bryan, Show, Punk, Cody + Goldy (or Big E and 4 vs. 4)
    Cena vs ADR vs Sandow
    Kane, Miz + 2 (Ziggler?) vs. Wyatts + 1

    Much better than wasting Bryan and Punk. Also delays the Kane turn a little.

    That actually would have been a killer match, all of them can work and all got feuds with each other. The elimination match is always the draw for me and many regarding Survivor Series so loading it with stars all with intertwining storylines makes sense creatively and would give it a big fight feel which it needs judging by recent buyrates.

    Instead the elimination match will be Punk and Bryan slumming it against the Wyatts.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭SirDelboy18


    What a waste of time.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    I dont. WWE seem to.

    Survivor Series could have easily been:
    Shield, Orton + 1 (Triple H?) vs. Bryan, Show, Punk, Cody + Goldy (or Big E and 4 vs. 4)

    Problem with that match is it would most likely mean the Tag & WWE titles not being defended at Survivor series.

    Many people myself included have D.Bryan as our favourite to win the rumble and imo for that to happen they need to pull him back a bit after him headlining the past 4/5 PPVs in a row. Let Show have his 2 months in the main event before he drops back into the middle of the card come mania season where even if Bryan isn't heading to mania as a Rumble winner I would still expect him to have a prominent position such as vs HHH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,550 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Can't believe there are people out there who don't think the Wyatts are the worst thing to happen the world since terminal diseases.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    CSF wrote: »
    Can't believe there are people out there who don't think the Wyatts are the worst thing to happen the world since terminal diseases.

    What a ridiculous, over-the-top, inaccurate exaggeration! Sin Cara is far worse! :P


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    They keep calling Bryans finished the move that beat Cena so yeah it's been mentioned many times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Problem with that match is it would most likely mean the Tag & WWE titles not being defended at Survivor series.

    Many people myself included have D.Bryan as our favourite to win the rumble and imo for that to happen they need to pull him back a bit after him headlining the past 4/5 PPVs in a row. Let Show have his 2 months in the main event before he drops back into the middle of the card come mania season where even if Bryan isn't heading to mania as a Rumble winner I would still expect him to have a prominent position such as vs HHH

    I thought of the tags which is why I said Big E as an alternative. Not that they mean much anyway.

    WWE title can miss one show, especially since Orton is champion and with the bosses. It makes sense that they want to keep the title so dont force him to defend it at every turn.

    The pull him back thing doesnt make much sense. For Bryan to win he needs to be **** hot like he was at Summerslam. Having him go cold by lumping him with the Wyatts will make him less likely to win. They should have given him the title, let him run with it for a couple of months and lose it before the Rumble. Have the authority then refuse to give him a rematch so he goes and wins the Rumble instead. Suddenly you have someone on the same level as Cena instead of being a midcarder again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    CSF wrote: »
    Can't believe there are people out there who don't think the Wyatts are the worst thing to happen the world since terminal diseases.

    Kinda like a mix between the Brood(cool entrance) and the D.O.A. (average/below average workers).


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I don't get the Wyatt and Shield comparison. I see they are both three man groups but thats it. They were put together for completely different reasons, introduced to the main roster for completely different reasons, under completely diffetant circumstances and booked in very different ways.

    It's like Comparing Cena WWE start to Brock Lesners. Cena looked **** by comparison but over the long haul he ended up coming good to say the least.

    The Shield were put together to suit a storyline and need on the main Roster at that time. They were three of the stand outs, probably the three stand outs in NXT and brought in to give them all instant recognition and the beat start possible to their main roster careers.

    They were brought in as a complete surprise, people had no idea what was going on and it made a huge impact. They took out the biggest names WWE had in group attacks, went on a streak of winning matches, main eventing shows, even the first match they had was the main event of a PPV. Victims included the Rock, Cena, Ryback, Orton, Sheamus, Ric Flair, The Undertaker oh and Vince McMahon. Nobody in recent years had such a well booked and kept strong intro, arguably since Brock Lesner.

    The Wyatt family were put together on NXT when Bray got injured, we had pre exposure to them so pre expectations already existed. Bringing them onto the main roster was done slowly, in a way to have the gimmick established and Bray over more than the collective group. While the Shield got to work with the names above the Wyatt Family got to work with Kane, they took out 3MB, Justin Gabriel and other nobodies. The had to be careful that the intro was not just a rip off of the Shield.

    It's only now that the Gimmick is established, the introduction of the Shield is in past memory rather recent memory and Mania is starting off that WWE are trying to kick them on and get them involved with big names. WWE have plans for Bray more than the others but are doing it slowly, they are Cena like when it comes to how he/they were introduced.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    I thought of the tags which is why I said Big E as an alternative. Not that they mean much anyway.

    WWE title can miss one show, especially since Orton is champion and with the bosses. It makes sense that they want to keep the title so dont force him to defend it at every turn.

    The pull him back thing doesnt make much sense. For Bryan to win he needs to be **** hot like he was at Summerslam. Having him go cold by lumping him with the Wyatts will make him less likely to win. They should have given him the title, let him run with it for a couple of months and lose it before the Rumble. Have the authority then refuse to give him a rematch so he goes and wins the Rumble instead. Suddenly you have someone on the same level as Cena instead of being a midcarder again.

    Well I guess the pulling him back thing is in my head as I don't see the WWE pushing someone who isn't Cena in the main event all the way from Summerslam to mania. Even CM Punk during his historic title reign didn't get to headline that many PPVs. However if they pull back on him and have say Big Show headline Survivor Series & TLC vs Orton and then CM Punk headline the Rumble (by headline I mean the title match here), then I could see them push Bryan back into a big main event storyline for the road to Wrestlemania (i.e be The Rumble winner).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Well right now it looks like the 3-man heel team of the Wyatts are now Triple H's muscle, previously Triple H's muscle was 3-man heel team of the SHIELD; and both teams have been in WWE for under a year.

    I know what you mean, gimmick & talent-level -wise they're nothing similar but as above, there's a lot of comparisons with them & their utilisation in the WWE.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Okay the three man thing is not literally 'it'.

    The recent change to Wyatt's looking like Triple He's muscle is possibly to position them for a mania match?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,510 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Well I guess the pulling him back thing is in my head as I don't see the WWE pushing someone who isn't Cena in the main event all the way from Summerslam to mania. Even CM Punk during his historic title reign didn't get to headline that many PPVs. However if they pull back on him and have say Big Show headline Survivor Series & TLC vs Orton and then CM Punk headline the Rumble (by headline I mean the title match here), then I could see them push Bryan back into a big main event storyline for the road to Wrestlemania (i.e be The Rumble winner).

    I'm thinking we might see a feud between Kane and Bryan if Kane is now part of The Authority

    Be interesting to see who captains/leads the team at SS, Bryan or Punk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Cianan2


    I see the "devil made me do it" leading to be the work of Vince McMahon but I've no idea how that'll go with Bryan's future leading to Wrestlemania


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Was just listening to a show he did with Bryan Alvarez 6 or 7 years ago (genuinely worth subbing for a month solely just to hear this interview). He was saying basically that wrestling was not something that was the be-all-and-end-all of his life and had plans to become a missionary with the peace corp or something. They rejected him when he applied because he hadn't held what they describe as a "steady job" long enough. This was just before he got to the height of his indy stardom as ROH World Champion and years before he got his second WWE deal but it's funny to think he mightn't have ever been WWE Champion if the peace corps weren't such dicks about who they accept as volunteers.

    Completely forgot he would have been in the same class as the Lance Cade in HBK's wrestling school and it was kinda sad when Bryan mentioned he had everything WWE look for in a star knowing how things turned out.

    Hope that doesn't seem shilly but if your WWE Daniel Bryan is all you know of him you should really listen to this for some of his earlier stories. Probably the most fun interview I've ever come across in any medium.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Loved that interview.

    Besides the steady job thing. They wouldn't accept him as he failed P.E. in high school!

    Before signing with WWE he also gave serious thought about moving to Thailand to learn kickboxing. Not as your standard Wrestler ego stroke of "I am going to do MMA" rather just following an interest/personal development thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,510 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    WWE Network cameras will be following several Superstars during WrestleMania XXX week in New Orleans, including Daniel Bryan. Bryan noted in an interview that cameras will be filming him to see what he does to get prepared for WrestleMania. WWE.com usually does the "WrestleMania Diary" videos each year but these will be airing on the Network.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,510 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is he taking time off for his wedding and honeymoon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,510 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How long he is expected out for?


    I assume with surgery it will be around 6 to 8 weeks, so will he be stripped of the title, I would imagine Steph and HHH will use the "30 day title defence rule" to crown a new champ *coughs* HHH himself :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ape Lincoln


    Wrestling Observer Newsletter reported that Bryan vs Lesnar is pencilled in for Summerslam. All depends on his health and if he wrestles at MITB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    Wrestling Observer Newsletter reported that Bryan vs Lesnar is pencilled in for Summerslam. All depends on his health and if he wrestles at MITB.

    I would pay for that so many times I'd make the Network profitable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Wrestling Observer Newsletter reported that Bryan vs Lesnar is pencilled in for Summerslam. All depends on his health and if he wrestles at MITB.

    I don't know if you are read the Observer but this is a bit a cart before the horse Bryan's latest health news sounds really bad:
    The problem is that Bryan’s rehabilitation of his right arm is going slower than anticipated. One person said that not only is he not makings gains, but he’s actually losing strength in the arm while doing rehab, which is concerning. Bryan was in Indianapolis for Raw and backstage, his situation was the most talked about thing among those in power. He was sent back to Pittsburgh to see Dr. Joseph Maroon, who did his neck surgery, to see what was wrong. Bryan will return on the 6/9 Raw for another confrontation with Stephanie.

    Shades of Angle, Austin, Edge and going back further Paul Orndoff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ape Lincoln


    I did read that, probably should've posted that info too. Sounds quite serious, far more than the 'ah sure, it's just a minimallly invasive procedure'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Considering it was supposed to be a big year, Bryan is having no luck at all, if that's true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Also Brie Bella is still doing live events and PR events with Nikki so her departure seems storyline only.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,550 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Sure that was all it was ever gonna be. This could be the making of Daniel Bryan (or remaking) because I personally am rooting for him in his real life battle to keep the WWE title even more than I was for his storyline one to win it. Id imagine others will be the same. If he does lose it, when he comes back he will come back to the reaction HHH got x 1000


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Palo Alto


    If he's losing strength in the arm I worry that there could be some permanent nerve damage, as a medical student, that doesn't sound good at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Would Bryan be losing strength in his arm due to his reduced work out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Palo Alto


    Yeah there'll definitely be some muscle atrophy, hopefully it's that rather than nerve damage, that'd suck.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    When do we start chanting ‘no?’

    Two weeks ago, former WWE World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan announced on the Money in the Bank pre-show that the neck injury that put him on the shelf and caused him to vacate the championship was more serious than previously thought, and he’d be going in for another surgery. He didn’t know when he’d be back, but he promised that he would, and that when he came back he’d be better than ever.

    It might be time to start getting worried about that.

    According to Dave Meltzer at the Wrestling Observer, Bryan’s not only undergoing multiple surgeries on his neck … he’s also considering surgery on his SHOULDER. All those compounded surgeries and sad, matter-of-fact statements about him not having any strength in his arms adds up to Bryan being out indefinitely.

    The update on Bryan is that he may now also require shoulder surgery, as a full exam has revealed a lot of different shoulder and neck issues. At this point, because of uncertainty as to whether he’ll need surgery and what surgery it could be, he’s out of plans and there is no estimate on when he’ll return. The plan seemed to be the Roman Reigns ascension to being the top guy at WrestleMania 31 whether Bryan was hurt or not, but now the TV is built around Reigns as the major badass.

    http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2014/07/daniel-bryans-facing-another-career-threatening-surgery-and-it-might-be-time-to-get-worried/

    :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    I'm going to be controversial and say being out indefinitely may not be an absolute disaster for him while Reigns is on the "ascension". Better for him to be on the sidelines keeping the fans dying for his return than be put in some god awful 2nd tier storyline while Reigns is being pushed to the moon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Eh, they also said their were no plans for AJ to return any time soon and now she's the champion. Wouldn't be shocked if WWE were making it seem like it is worse than it actually is to make his comeback seem more heroic, like what they do with Cena.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭takamichinoku


    It's surely also possible than Bryan has decided he wants to take a bit of a sabbatical to get all repaired from a ton of issues that have been building up over the years? He won the championship at Wrestlemania to an adoring crowd, I'm sure he wanted that but I can't imagine the idea of being a John Cena type public figure with all the extra work that involves would appeal to him at all and it's hardly like it's looking like a particularly alluring workplace to return to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭savemejebus


    His jokey comment from 2009 when it emerged he'd signed with WWE about needing to do it to take care of future medical bills is turning out to be, sadly, true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    His jokey comment from 2009 when it emerged he'd signed with WWE about needing to do it to take care of future medical bills is turning out to be, sadly, true.

    Well him and Nigel McGuinness/Desmond Wolfe were side by side in doing this stuff:


    McGuinness doesn't remember any of his matches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    ^ That match is brutal. An amazing spectacle, but my god the ring post spot is actually hard to watch. No wonder Nigel has no memory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭savemejebus


    I'm still mystified as to why Bryan continued to use the Headbutt off the top rope as there is no good way to take the bump and to be blunt, it looks like crap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    I'm still mystified as to why Bryan continued to use the Headbutt off the top rope as there is no good way to take the bump and to be blunt, it looks like crap.

    And Chris Benoit, Dynamite Kid and Harley Race messing themselves up with it really badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,572 ✭✭✭savemejebus


    rovert wrote: »
    And Chris Benoit, Dynamite Kid and Harley Race messing themselves up with it really badly.

    totally, was taking that as a universally accepted fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    And it is so closely associated with Benoit as well. Bizarre. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭takamichinoku


    D'von's never had any issues with his neck though, has he? Master of the diving headbutt, clearly.


    Yeah though, that's the thing, he obviously works like hell every time he has to, takes very little consideration to what it'll do to his body or anything. If the timing of all this (reaching such a huge high and being aware they have no real intention of going beyond that with him) prompts him to sit back and take care of himself more, that's a good thing. Remember Punk was banging on about how he needed time off after Mania 29 for ages and he wound up only taking a few weeks off, he could've taken more there if he really wanted to and his run after the return was pretty bad overall too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    WWE will be releasing an autobiography of former WWE World Heavyweight champion Daniel Bryan, PWInsider.com has confirmed. The plan is to release the book in April 2015.

    Craig Tello, a WWE.com writer who co-wrote WWE Ebook " Diary of a Heartbreak Kid: Shawn Michaels' Journey into the WWE Hall of Fame" will be working on the book with Bryan.

    The plan is to frame the book around Bryan main eventing Wrestlemania 30 and tell stories from his life and career before making it to WWE as well as his WWE run.

    The working title of the book is "YES! My Improbable Journey to the Main Event of WrestleMania."

    Wonder what he says about his treatment during the Winter of 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,510 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Daniel Bryan, who hasn't wrestled since May, will now need surgery on his elbow.Bryan under went neck surgery on May 15, just six weeks after becoming the WWE world heavyweight champion at WrestleMania 30.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    So it's a possibility we won't see Daniel Bryan until sometime in 2015.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Hmmm. The Royal Rumble is in 2015! :eek:






    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    I don't think he was ever due to return before the new year. A lot of the talk on the podcasts I listen to is he could we'll be gone until well after WM31


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    gimmick wrote: »
    I don't think he was ever due to return before the new year. A lot of the talk on the podcasts I listen to is he could we'll be gone until well after WM31

    The latest thing in the Observer says there's no timetable for his return.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Well the most important thing is that Daniel obviously recovers from his injury and comes back firing on all cylinders.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    A year off could do wonders for him in the long run, physically speaking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    An File wrote: »
    A year off could do wonders for him in the long run, physically speaking.

    This be true just imagine the pop when his music hits on his eventual return, and the year off like you said could do wonders for him, not everyone has John Cena's freakish ability to recover from an injury.


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