The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

Bill Ponderosa · 19-02-2021 9:05am

mooz wrote: »

Is he first All-Star from Tipperary since Declan Browne won one??

No quinliven has one

ArielAtom · 19-02-2021 3:47pm

Tally Wager wrote: »

Conor Sweeney All Star ! Well deserved
! ! Fantastic Footballer , fantastic Individual ! ! !

Absolutely well deserved. A superb footballer. Congrats to him.

Paddico · 01-03-2021 2:40pm

https://www.tipperarylive.ie/news/sport/612367/conor-sweeney-says-tipperary-s-defence-of-munster-football-title-is-challenge-to-be-relished.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

osullic · 09-04-2021 1:20pm

Any word on Billy McCarthy? Has to be one of the unluckiest lads out there. He was flying for the SARS last year until the injury.

Podge1972 · 21-04-2021 8:04am

Premierview Podcast Episode 37

On this weeks Premierview Podcast the Lads have a really in depth discussion with Dr.Damien Young from Drom and Inch,who is the Performance Analyst with the Tipperary Senior Hurlers
Some Gems in it

The amount of touches Lar actually had in the 2010 All Ireland Final

How often the Ball is actually in play during a game

What happens in a Half Time Tipperary Dressing Room

And how to develop two footed Gaelic Footballers

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21-04-2021 11:57am

osullic wrote: »

Any word on Billy McCarthy? Has to be one of the unluckiest lads out there. He was flying for the SARS last year until the injury.

Haven't heard a thing. Really feel sorry for him. We badly needed lads like him last year on the wet ground that could win the dirty ball.

formerlyET · 23-04-2021 6:37pm

Philly Austin has retired.

Xenophile · 23-04-2021 8:53pm

formerlyET wrote: »

Philly Austin has retired.

Philip Austin was a great servant to Tipp football down through the years.

25-04-2021 11:20pm

formerlyET wrote: »

Philly Austin has retired.

Xenophile wrote: »

Philip Austin was a great servant to Tipp football down through the years.

Brilliant servant to Tipperary football and an all around great guy! Delighted he got his Munster medal

formerlyET · 29-04-2021 12:06am

Two of the three live games, on RTÉ Sport in May, feature Tipp - Limerick in Limerick on the 8th of May followed by hosting Cork on Saturday, May 15th.

Billy Ocean · 29-04-2021 12:46am

Ger Browne not on your panel this year according to Covid obsessed hurler on the ditch.

29-04-2021 1:16am

Billy Ocean wrote: »

Ger Browne not on your panel this year according to Covid obsessed hurler on the ditch.

There is a lot of stuff going on with Browne and his club at the moment. He, his brother, and his 3 cousins (one of whom Devon Ryan) applied to transfer to Cashel K.C, but it was rejected. There is an internal dispute for reasons that are not publicly known. I hope it gets resolved, but this day and age, I cannot fathom how in gods name these disputes can escalate to such an extent. You hear a lot about the brotherhood of club, etc, but then, I've seen many disputes similar occur over the years. Never nice to see. You cant choose your parish at the end of the day and I suppose it works the other way too.

Browne is a loss to Tipp. We need more speed in our team especially with an ageing team, and he has it in abundance. Offers us a whole different option. Both Aaron Browne and Devon Ryan are two lads that will be looked at too, but this will do them no favours.

Mantis Toboggan · 29-04-2021 8:10am

Can't understand why the transfer was rejected? Those boys need to be hurling and need to be in a club. The issues haven't been resolved for whatever reason and seem to run deep. There has been multiple efforts to resolve it but all have failed.

Their parents are from Cashel, Cashel voted to take in the lads so thought the county board would do the decent thing. Big losses for tipp.

formerlyET · 29-04-2021 4:29pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Can't understand why the transfer was rejected? Those boys need to be hurling and need to be in a club. The issues haven't been resolved for whatever reason and seem to run deep. There has been multiple efforts to resolve it but all have failed.

Their parents are from Cashel, Cashel voted to take in the lads so thought the county board would do the decent thing. Big losses for tipp.

If those transfers went through it could create some nasty boiling points in the future. They should have applied further away. Applying to Cashel was a revenge move as much as anything. I know you could say it's practical in terms of petrol. But Jesus, a neighbouring rival club...
There are eight counties bordering Tipp. Pick a club in one of them if you can't pick your own. Limerick is close enough to them.
Even Cashel agreeing to take them on is bad enough - but for Kickhams best young players to go there and then possibly play down the line - no matter how much time has passed...
Ger was told in no uncertain terms to solve it. It hasn't been. Family power struggle involved. Costing young lads their careers. Nasty business.
But the right thing has been done here. They set a clear pathway. Find a way to get back into your club or you won't be on the panel. Problem solved. The show goes on. Nobody or any group of players is bigger than their club or county. Ger and co need to clear up this mess without causing a problem in Tipp hurling. And if they don't they can kiss goodbye to their inter county careers. It's a pity there doesn't seem to be people/family in their lives that can help these guys out and get the show back on the road. Pride will have to be swallowed.

30-04-2021 1:38am

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Can't understand why the transfer was rejected? Those boys need to be hurling and need to be in a club. The issues haven't been resolved for whatever reason and seem to run deep. There has been multiple efforts to resolve it but all have failed.

Their parents are from Cashel, Cashel voted to take in the lads so thought the county board would do the decent thing. Big losses for tipp.

Cashel and Kickhams are next door to each other. You also have a slight town v countryside aspect to it. Dont forget, Kickhams invested a lot of time into these lads over the years and developed them into the county players they are today. They'll feel betrayed from their point of view.

One way or another, the lads need to resolve the issue and get the show back on the road. I cant imagine that they just decided one morning to up sticks and join Kickhams bitter rivals up the road. Something has happened behind the scenes. It could be a misunderstanding, or it could be a genuine matter. Either way, I can only hope they come to a resolution soon for everyone's sake. The county board need to handle this gently too. We don't want to lose these lads to soccer either. A bit of mediation wouldn't go astray.

johnb25 · 30-04-2021 10:51am

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Can't understand why the transfer was rejected? Those boys need to be hurling and need to be in a club. The issues haven't been resolved for whatever reason and seem to run deep. There has been multiple efforts to resolve it but all have failed.

Their parents are from Cashel, Cashel voted to take in the lads so thought the county board would do the decent thing. Big losses for tipp.

One parent each from Cashel, others from Knockavilla.
Living in the parish. Co Board need to uphold parish rule, otherwise set a precedent for other to move as they wish.

formerlyET · 03-05-2021 11:39pm

With the weather shaping up like this, I wonder if we'll see games this weekend?

giveitholly · 03-05-2021 11:41pm

formerlyET wrote: »

With the weather shaping up like this, I wonder if we'll see games this weekend?

A bit of wind and rain will hardly stop games going ahead

formerlyET · 05-05-2021 10:55am

giveitholly wrote: »

A bit of wind and rain will hardly stop games going ahead

I remember it stopping a league game in Cork.

formerlyET · 05-05-2021 1:41pm

Seamie Callanan is out of the early league games with a knock. Paul Maher & Billy MacCarthy also out of early rounds.

giveitholly · 05-05-2021 8:33pm

formerlyET wrote: »

I remember it stopping a league game in Cork.

In May?

formerlyET · 06-05-2021 12:05pm

giveitholly wrote: »

In May?

Pull out the calendar there.

formerlyET · 06-05-2021 12:05pm

I've heard Andrew Ormond and Ciaran Connolly are also part of senior squad.

formerlyET · 07-05-2021 4:18pm

1. N Quaid

2. A Costello, 3. S Finn, 4. R English.

5. D Byrnes, 6. K Hayes, 7. B Nash

8. W O’Donoghue, 9. D O’Donovan.

10. T Morrissey, 11. D Reidy, 12. C Boylan.

13. A Breen, 14. S Flanagan, 15. D Dempsey.

Mantis Toboggan · 07-05-2021 6:31pm

Interesting to see who gets captain being named tonight, I'd say Ronan Maher could be in with a shout.

Edit: Seamie retains

formerlyET · 07-05-2021 9:02pm

Tipperary team v Limerick:

Barry Hogan; C Barrett, R Maher, B Heffernan.
B McGrath, S Kennedy, B O'Meara.
A Flynn, M Breen.
D McCormack, Patrick Maher, N O'Meara.
W Connors, J Forde, J Morris
Debuts for Barry Hogan and Brian McGrath

Callanan remains captain
Vice - Noel McGrath

formerlyET · 07-05-2021 9:24pm

What do people think of the balance of the side?

07-05-2021 10:15pm

formerlyET wrote: »

What do people think of the balance of the side?

Certainly a lot of ball-winners....do we lack scorers though? Bonnar and Dan are great battlers, but maybe aren't guys who will take points. I suppose Jason will drop a bit deeper to collect a breaking ball.

One part of me is saying ''its only the league, not the end of the world'', while the other part of me feels we need to get a win on Limerick.

Looking forward to seeing our puckout under Barry Hogan

Ompala · 07-05-2021 10:22pm

Think it's an interesting selection, will be interested to see how Hogan in goal will use puck outs. Half forward line is pretty much our best set of ball winners. Could see Willie Connors coming out for break ball. Half back line doesn't have huge experience but great potential. Looking forward to it!

GoldFour4 · 07-05-2021 11:02pm

Yeah it’ll be interesting to see where scores come from in the team.

Hopefully Brian McGrath can prove to be a solid addition

OAOB · 08-05-2021 11:07am

The full back line is probably our starting team.
Very interested in O'Meara at half back, McGrath has the pedigree but i think O'Meara could lockdown a starting role in this team, his distribution is excellent.
The forwards could struggle to put up a big score, only Jason and Jake would be natural scorers inside so we need to get them consistent good ball.

I would have liked to see us starting at least one of Flynn/Kehoe/Quirke, we need to get these lads experience against the top teams from the start

Joe_ Public · 08-05-2021 11:22am

Not sure what to expect. How well have they been able to prepare? Just good to have it back. Maybe we'll see a few more introductions as the games wear on? Would definitely like to see Quigley get a run at some stage.

Looking forward to Bonner v Hayes. Potentially fascinating clash in so many ways if they line out as listed.

Joe_ Public · 08-05-2021 6:18pm

They're making a big deal of the water break but i thought we were getting to grips with it before that. Great blocking and work rate, hopefully be able to maintain that to the end. What a score that was seamie to Jason and over the shoulder.

BobbyBolivia · 08-05-2021 6:44pm

Should be further ahead here.

Was fearing the worst before but we have been very competitive and really out it up to them.

Regardless of what happens from here we have shown enough to be happy with for me.

PeggyShippen · 08-05-2021 7:59pm

Decent performance overall but faded near the end fairly dramatically. The full back line was solid enough. Shamus Flanagan was good but over all the backs were solid. The forwards were poor enough...I was disappointed in Morris. No score from play from the 23rd minute. Flynn was outstanding I thought.

BobbyBolivia · 08-05-2021 8:18pm

PeggyShippen wrote: »

Decent performance overall but faded near the end fairly dramatically. The full back line was solid enough. Shamus Flanagan was good but over all the backs were solid. The forwards were poor enough...I was disappointed in Morris. No score from play from the 23rd minute. Flynn was outstanding I thought.

Wouldn't concern me - should be looking to build with a view to peaking come Championship. No point peaking for League.

Plenty of time to get the fitness up.

formerlyET · 08-05-2021 10:10pm

malistheman wrote: »

Yeah it’ll be interesting to see where scores come from in the team.

Hopefully Brian McGrath can prove to be a solid addition

Good point. We struggled for scores, but we found out a bit. We found out that if we can't score from play for long periods, not to worry, we can hang in there.
Limerick are happy to foul and give away frees rather than let the other team play. It's hard to watch.
If you told me that we would'nt score from play for so long I'd say we were going getting hammered. Strange game. Lots of shadow boxing going on.

formerlyET · 08-05-2021 10:19pm

One really disappointing element was the standard of ball going into our forwards. When you've got a player like Forde! We should have the players to put in it low to him in space. He didn't get enough of good ball like that.

FoFo1254122 · 09-05-2021 12:27am

good game and tipp played well

limerick are a young powerful very physical very skillful team.
they are clear favourites for this year
Tipp will be happy with tonight

09-05-2021 12:49am

FoFo1254122 wrote: »

good game and tipp played well

limerick are a young powerful very physical very skillful team.
they are clear favourites for this year
Tipp will be happy with tonight

Saw last 17 minutes, in that time, no Tipp forward managed to win control of the ball . Not really the sign of a team playing well . No score from play since the 23 minute.

FoFo1254122 · 09-05-2021 1:08am

1373 wrote: »

Saw last 17 minutes, in that time, no Tipp forward managed to win control of the ball . Not really the sign of a team playing well . No score from play since the 23 minute.

limerick kept fouling tipp players when the tipp player had any little advantage
thats not tipps fault

09-05-2021 1:12am

FoFo1254122 wrote: »

limerick kept fouling tipp players when the tipp player had any little advantage
thats not tipps fault

Our forwards need to support each other better and provide the option of an offload more often.

formerlyET · 09-05-2021 1:48am

I really struggle to understand how the balling winning ability, strength, and directness of Billy Seymour (Jerry Kelly and Dan O’Meara are not even on the panel) are not utilized by this management. It baffles me.

PeggyShippen · 09-05-2021 6:50am

formerlyET wrote: »

I really struggle to understand how the balling winning ability, strength, and directness of Billy Seymour (Jerry Kelly and Dan O’Meara are not even on the panel) are not utilized by this management. It baffles me.

Agreed, at least 2 out of those 3 should be on the panel. I think that there's an element of hurling snobbery in it. The coaches are real stick men ,love the skillfull player and thats fine but with 15 mins to go in a match against Limerick that goes out the window and you need a Billy Seymour

FoFo1254122 · 09-05-2021 10:22am

i came across liam sheedy professionally while he worked at bank of ireland.
liam sheedy will use whatever he can to win - whether thats lovely hurlers or beasts, players he knows very well or liam cahills U20 players , sheedy wont care
last year losing by a whisker to galway who themselves lost to limerick by a whisker is no embarrassment,

what killed us last year in my opinion was john mcgrath and bubbles not showing up. i love how both hurl and when they bring it together on match day Tipp cannot be stopped
For me Tipps four most important players are barrett john mcgrath bubbles and callinan
if sheedy can get all 4 humming this year we will win the all ireland.

PeggyShippen · 09-05-2021 11:16am

FoFo1254122 wrote: »

i came across liam sheedy professionally while he worked at bank of ireland.
liam sheedy will use whatever he can to win - whether thats lovely hurlers or beasts, players he knows very well or liam cahills U20 players , sheedy wont care
last year losing by a whisker to galway who themselves lost to limerick by a whisker is no embarrassment,

what killed us last year in my opinion was john mcgrath and bubbles not showing up. i love how both hurl and when they bring it together on match day Tipp cannot be stopped
For me Tipps four most important players are barrett john mcgrath bubbles and callinan
if sheedy can get all 4 humming this year we will win the all ireland.

Thats a big if. Barretts best days are behind him and he relies on winning frees. He's still an excellent man marker but his powers are wanning. John McGrath and Bubbles...you couldn't rely on them performing. And when they arent then they don't contribute at all. Bubbles is well past it in my view. John McGrath is a great goal scorer allright and there's lots of hurling left in him but again..he doesn't show up all through a game. Callinan is class..carrying a back injury though. I think if Tipp can get them 'humming ' then yeah they ll go close. But that's a big if. Id rather see young fellas stepping up and keeping John McGrath and Dwyer as subs to finish out a game.

Mantis Toboggan · 09-05-2021 11:32am

Has there been any sign of Bubbles?

FoFo1254122 · 09-05-2021 11:34am

PeggyShippen wrote: »

Thats a big if. Barretts best days are behind him and he relies on winning frees. He's still an excellent man marker but his powers are wanning. John McGrath and Bubbles...you couldn't rely on them performing. And when they arent then they don't contribute at all. Bubbles is well past it in my view. John McGrath is a great goal scorer allright and there's lots of hurling left in him but again..he doesn't show up all through a game. Callinan is class..carrying a back injury though. I think if Tipp can get them 'humming ' then yeah they ll go close. But that's a big if. Id rather see young fellas stepping up and keeping John McGrath and Dwyer as subs to finish out a game.

personally i think barrett bubbles and john mcgrath have plenty left in them if they so wish.
regardless we will go close this year and the future is bright.
sheedy knows he has to adapt how we play - i liked the withdrawing everyone to the middle when limerick pucked out.

Vinnie222 · 09-05-2021 11:45am

FoFo1254122 wrote: »

personally i think barrett bubbles and john mcgrath have plenty left in them if they so wish.
regardless we will go close this year and the future is bright.
sheedy knows he has to adapt how we play - i liked the withdrawing everyone to the middle when limerick pucked out.

Withdrawing everyone to the middle backfired when 1 or 2 Limerick big guns came on. Limerick were able to get control in midfield again

formerlyET · 09-05-2021 11:51am

PeggyShippen wrote: »

Agreed, at least 2 out of those 3 should be on the panel. I think that there's an element of hurling snobbery in it. The coaches are real stick men ,love the skillfull player and thats fine but with 15 mins to go in a match against Limerick that goes out the window and you need a Billy Seymour

You'd think a coach would be excited to improve the skills of someone rawer. It can be done. They really need to be on the squad - looking at the likes of trigger there, we already have enough of that type of forward -more grunt would be a good option. And these coaches can earn their corn improving the skills of the less silky. But I guess it's not that type of year. You can't develop a player in such strange circumstances. But i do wonder why Jerry Kelly and Dan O'Meara are not on the scene. Maybe, it's the peroxide mullet is that putting Sheedy off! But Darragh Egan is watching him a long time too.

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