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Rebuilding Ireland home loan

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 NM2020


    deise121 wrote: »
    wuck question for everyone who have applied already, did you fill out the solicitor information on the application form? we don't have one yet and there's really no need to get one until we are approved and have a home ready to purchase

    Hi,

    When i was applying i didn't have a solicitor and was told to write TBC for that part. Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    NM2020 wrote: »
    Hi,

    When i was applying i didn't have a solicitor and was told to write TBC for that part. Hope this helps.

    Great, thanks mate. Just waiting on BOI to post my 12 months current accoubnt statements and then I'll be able to send it. Just getting the application out is going to be a massive weight off my shoulders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Just dropped in our application to Waterford city council… fingers crossed for us!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭optogirl


    I think we are going to have to give up. Approval runs out in June and we have been outbid on everything that has come up - some going 80k above asking. It's madness


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    optogirl wrote: »
    I think we are going to have to give up. Approval runs out in June and we have been outbid on everything that has come up - some going 80k above asking. It's madness

    That’s my biggest fear. Because we’re not in Dublin the highest price the house can be is 250k. Literally everything suitable is going for way over that price right now. I have money I could put toward the house as well, which is a shame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,996 ✭✭✭optogirl


    deise121 wrote: »
    That’s my biggest fear. Because we’re not in Dublin the highest price the house can be is 250k. Literally everything suitable is going for way over that price right now. I have money I could put toward the house as well, which is a shame

    We're the very same. My Mam even offered us a very generous gift but it can't be used towards buying the house so I'm not going to take it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    deise121 wrote: »
    That’s my biggest fear. Because we’re not in Dublin the highest price the house can be is 250k. Literally everything suitable is going for way over that price right now. I have money I could put toward the house as well, which is a shame

    Could you not ask the bank for an exception.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Could you not ask the bank for an exception.

    I would, but have been told by numerous banks that income exceptions are for people who earn a “considerable” amount of money. IE - people who are buying McMansions who just want mansions. There are no exceptions to the 250k with the rebuilding ireland homeloan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    deise121 wrote: »
    I would, but have been told by numerous banks that income exceptions are for people who earn a “considerable” amount of money. IE - people who are buying McMansions who just want mansions. There are no exceptions to the 250k with the rebuilding ireland homeloan

    That is not true, my mate got a mortgage last year from a bank for 4.5 times, and they were on 65k joint.


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Jafin


    When I was getting my AIP from Bank of Ireland I asked the advisor about exceptions (because honestly the Rebuilding Ireland scheme is so much hassle that if I can get an exception from a bank I'd almost rather take that). She told me that it's done on a case by case basis and it's more about the property being a sound investment than whether or not I can actually afford it. Obviously whether or not I could afford it is a factor too, but she said that she could see by looking through my accounts etc. that I could definitely afford it. What I took from that, although not explicitly stated, is that if it's a decent property and not in shambles then it should be fine. Of course there are other factors such as how many exceptions they're allowed to give out and all that, but still I don't think it's really anything about getting a super expensive property.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    rob316 wrote: »
    That is not true, my mate got a mortgage last year from a bank for 4.5 times, and they were on 65k joint.

    We have one income, mine. We also have 4 children and my wife gets DCA for our disabled child. We were told by two banks and one mortgage broker it wasn’t possible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    rob316 wrote: »
    That is not true, my mate got a mortgage last year from a bank for 4.5 times, and they were on 65k joint.

    We have one income, mine. We also have 4 children and my wife gets DCA for our disabled child. We were told by two banks and one mortgage broker it wasn’t possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    optogirl wrote: »
    I think we are going to have to give up. Approval runs out in June and we have been outbid on everything that has come up - some going 80k above asking. It's madness

    I'm bowing out for now, yes, my approvals are all running out and there's just nothing in my bracket where I'm looking anymore. I'm not even getting Daft alerts at this stage...

    I choose to think it's a hidden blessing, because I'll reapply in a few months and with a bit of luck there will be more available then. Who knows, maybe there will have been a miracle in the meantime. I've gotten a small raise in the meantime, and I suppose it's no harm to see if I can get that reflected anyway.

    And who knows, maybe my original SDCC approval will arrive sometime before I retire.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    deise121 wrote: »
    I would, but have been told by numerous banks that income exceptions are for people who earn a “considerable” amount of money. IE - people who are buying McMansions who just want mansions. There are no exceptions to the 250k with the rebuilding ireland homeloan

    Honestly that is bull****. Go to a broker. Im sure they will sort it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Sidmonton1


    Hi, has anyone received approval for an amount over what the calculator indicated? If so by roughly how much? My application got declined as I indicated a higher amount to what the calculator indicated. Now I have to reapply all over again as there are no grounds for an appeal.

    Is the best thing to keep the loan amount empty and see what they offer ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Lauren52


    Sidmonton1 wrote: »
    Hi, has anyone received approval for an amount over what the calculator indicated? If so by roughly how much? My application got declined as I indicated a higher amount to what the calculator indicated. Now I have to reapply all over again as there are no grounds for an appeal.

    Is the best thing to keep the loan amount empty and see what they offer ?

    Just put in maximum available.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deise121 wrote: »
    I would, but have been told by numerous banks that income exceptions are for people who earn a “considerable” amount of money.

    A mortgage advisor i spoke to told me that one of the things a bank will look at, and favour heavily for exceptions, is if you're already a customer. If you've been doing all your banking with them for a long time, and are a "loyal customer", you'll be more likely to get the exception.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    A mortgage advisor i spoke to told me that one of the things a bank will look at, and favour heavily for exceptions, is if you're already a customer. If you've been doing all your banking with them for a long time, and are a "loyal customer", you'll be more likely to get the exception.

    Soon as this is hopefully approved, I’m leaving bank of Ireland and doing all banking through my credit union. **** BOI and all other banks in this country


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deise121 wrote: »
    Soon as this is hopefully approved, I’m leaving bank of Ireland and doing all banking through my credit union. **** BOI and all other banks in this country




    Why do you say that? BoI have been great to me, personally. I can't really complain about them, and their interest rate on mortgages is cheaper than my local Credit Union.


    although perhaps unrelated: I've really no idea why the CU entered the mortgage race, if their rate was gonna be higher than the mainstream banks in the first place, to be honest.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Why do you say that? BoI have been great to me, personally. I can't really complain about them, and their interest rate on mortgages is cheaper than my local Credit Union.


    although perhaps unrelated: I've really no idea why the CU entered the mortgage race, if their rate was gonna be higher than the mainstream banks in the first place, to be honest.

    i have been with them over 15 years, had personal loans paid off well before they were meant to, have a perfect credit score, never been in a negative balance with my current account and have paid off my credit card statements in full every month for the past 10 years. they refused to offer me a mortgage because we have multiple children and my partner can't work due to one of the kids being severly disabled. that's why. i'm a human being, am well able to pay rent that goes out of my boi account that would be 3 times as much as a mortgage would be and i have a history of paying everything on time and early. was basically laughed at by multiple people in person and over the phone asking for an exception. they can **** right off. I have also been in my job for over 10 years and am not going anywhere. I know people who aren't customers with them, got a mortgage, and quit their job 2 weeks after buying their homes. it's ridiculous.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deise121 wrote: »
    they refused to offer me a mortgage because we have multiple children and my partner can't work


    Every bank have practically the same criteria, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭clio_16v


    Any updated timeline for Cork City Council? Applied a few weeks ago but heard nothing and now there is an ideal property just on the market. Am I wasting my time bidding?


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    To those of you that have applied, did your local council let you know they got the application? We applied last week and I emailed and asked them to confirm they received the application but no response yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Jafin


    deise121 wrote: »
    To those of you that have applied, did your local council let you know they got the application? We applied last week and I emailed and asked them to confirm they received the application but no response yet

    Yes, I got a letter in the post confirming receipt but that was about two weeks (possibly a bit longer) after I sent it in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Jafin wrote: »
    Yes, I got a letter in the post confirming receipt but that was about two weeks (possibly a bit longer) after I sent it in.

    Christ, that's a long time to wait for confirmation really important GDPR documents have been received by the right person. Thanks lad.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭3283winnie


    Hi can anyone tell me a time line for sdcc so I applied 3 weeks ago got a mail to say it was sent to the housing agency what's the next step after this do I ring up and ask when the committee sit or do I wait to be emailed thanks for any help much appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Darren 83


    Will they take commission into account when applying for a loan?


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Darren 83 wrote: »
    Will they take commission into account when applying for a loan?

    Nope, not from my understanding. I was told overtime wouldn’t be counted either


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭extrafluff


    3283winnie wrote: »
    Hi can anyone tell me a time line for sdcc so I applied 3 weeks ago got a mail to say it was sent to the housing agency what's the next step after this do I ring up and ask when the committee sit or do I wait to be emailed thanks for any help much appreciated

    Hey.

    First thing I'd say about SDCC is get ready to wait. It's likely to take a few months but I'd ring them all the time for an update as the credit committee don't sit all the time. They tend to look at applications in batches & not necessarily in order as far as I know.
    Hopefully you get sorted soon. It shouldn't take months but unfortunately it hasn't changed - quite a few people have said the same about SDCC.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭3283winnie


    extrafluff wrote: »
    Hey.

    First thing I'd say about SDCC is get ready to wait. It's likely to take a few months but I'd ring them all the time for an update as the credit committee don't sit all the time. They tend to look at applications in batches & not necessarily in order as far as I know.
    Hopefully you get sorted soon. It shouldn't take months but unfortunately it hasn't changed - quite a few people have said the same about SDCC.

    Best of luck.


    Thanks so much for your help really appreciate it. It's a hard waiting game although probably better off waiting with the way the market is now I wonder will it come back down again I'm hearing horror stories of bidding wars I'm not looking forward to that stress. Please God something will change soon enough.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Conio


    Hi guys, I saw people mention before that certain documents for the application have to be recent or within a month or so but I can't find where I read it. I was just wondering how recent your bank statements/salary cert/insufficient offers etc have to be? As in can they be within 3 months or do they all have to be within a month of your application submission?


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭3283winnie


    Conio wrote: »
    Hi guys, I saw people mention before that certain documents for the application have to be recent or within a month or so but I can't find where I read it. I was just wondering how recent your bank statements/salary cert/insufficient offers etc have to be? As in can they be within 3 months or do they all have to be within a month of your application submission?

    I was told once all documents are within 6 months you will be fine if the process takes longer you may be required to give another bank statement hope this helps


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    Conio wrote: »
    Hi guys, I saw people mention before that certain documents for the application have to be recent or within a month or so but I can't find where I read it. I was just wondering how recent your bank statements/salary cert/insufficient offers etc have to be? As in can they be within 3 months or do they all have to be within a month of your application submission?

    If i were you id give within a week of sending them in. They will want them at some stage anyway. So you’d just be slowing the process down for yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    9 weeks since i sent my application off. Not a dicky bird since.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 LaurenMcHugh


    Has anybody any idea what they mean when they say they’ve to send off Managers Orders?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Antho12


    Has anybody any idea what they mean when they say they’ve to send off Managers Orders?


    Your loan cheque is waiting to be signed by a manager at the council. Congrats!


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    9 weeks since i sent my application off. Not a dicky bird since.

    waterford council have just emailed me yesterday to say they received my application. 1 week after i dropped it in, so not too bad imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    I just found out about the rebuilding Ireland home loan recently. I'm a first time buyer, single, making 50K. I have good savings, and money I can cash out from investments to add to my deposit.

    The max I can get from a bank is 175K, with a 10% deposit I can buy is 192500, with a 20% deposit I can get is 210000. That isn't getting me much more than a 1 bed apartment.

    The home loan calculator says I can buy a house of up to 320K, which really opens up options for me, especially if i buy a new build and make use of the help to buy scheme. I'll be in a good position.

    What do I need to do to be eligible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Antho12 wrote: »
    Your loan cheque is waiting to be signed by a manager at the council. Congrats!

    Not exactly true. A Manager's Order (or Executive Order as they are now known) is an authorization for advancing the loan, but there is likely to be more steps involved before a cheque is issued.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Antho12


    Not exactly true. A Manager's Order (or Executive Order as they are now known) is an authorization for advancing the loan, but there is likely to be more steps involved before a cheque is issued.


    I’m just repeating what DCC told me when my loan was pending managers order. The cheque was sent to my solicitor a couple of days later.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    deise121 wrote: »
    waterford council have just emailed me yesterday to say they received my application. 1 week after i dropped it in, so not too bad imo.

    Awh i got an email 2 days after to say they have it, and all in order but nothing to say its been approved/declined or gone to the committee


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The home loan calculator says I can buy a house of up to 320K




    Yeah. I made that mistake, too.


    Louth County Council told me the max they'd give me is 4.6x times my income. So marginally better than a 4.5x exception. I dunno who is able to get the maximum amount off them if they're only lending what the bank would be lending, anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Hi lads, the Waterford city council has just emailed me to say my application has progressed to the underwriting stage of assessment and this process will take 3-4 weeks. Does this mean we have been approved? Or can the underwriter still deny it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Yeah. I made that mistake, too.


    Louth County Council told me the max they'd give me is 4.6x times my income. So marginally better than a 4.5x exception. I dunno who is able to get the maximum amount off them if they're only lending what the bank would be lending, anyway.

    I'm at the very top of salary for a single applicant (50K). I guess what they're saying is that they will give me 225K and the max I can add to it is 95K


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Lauren52


    I'm at the very top of salary for a single applicant (50K). I guess what they're saying is that they will give me 225K and the max I can add to it is 95K

    Yes You are correct


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Lauren52


    deise121 wrote: »
    Hi lads, the Waterford city council has just emailed me to say my application has progressed to the underwriting stage of assessment and this process will take 3-4 weeks. Does this mean we have been approved? Or can the underwriter still deny it?

    They will advise either or, then it goes to the credit committee meeting and then You will find out if approved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭deise121


    Lauren52 wrote: »
    They will advise either or, then it goes to the credit committee meeting and then You will find out if approved.

    brilliant, thanks a million. i suppose it's good news that the documentation we've sent in was good enough that they didn't ask for anything else!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 LaurenMcHugh


    Antho12 wrote: »
    I’m just repeating what DCC told me when my loan was pending managers order. The cheque was sent to my solicitor a couple of days later.

    Thanks for the responses. I sent all my forms back 2 weeks ago and heard last Friday that managers orders had to be done up and other documentation was to go to their solicitor and that theirs will be in touch with mine


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 rocha77


    Does anyone know how long it takes after going to credit commitee in Fingal CC and when do they meet?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭diceyreilly


    rocha77 wrote: »
    Does anyone know how long it takes after going to credit commitee in Fingal CC and when do they meet?

    I emailed them yesterday this was the response.

    Greetings Mark
    Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

    Your application was received, and will be brought to the credit committee at the end of May for final decision. We will inform you of the outcome shortly after that.

    Kind Regards
    Ciarán


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