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General race thread 2021 **spoilers**

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  • #952
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Ah I see. I didn't cop that Algarve and the Giro overlapped


  • #953
    mewso
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Ok so who is going to create the general Giro thread for a preview chat? Another volunteer for a velogames group needed :)


  • #954
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,106 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    Why would him commentating for Algarve mean that he is not doing the Giro?

    If they have live coverage of the full Giro stages I think the best scenario is when Kirby & Hatch take it in turns and do a few hours each.

    Both Kirby & Hatch are annoying me a lot lately but I'm still putting that down to them commentating remotely and not being at the races.

    Hatches pontificating needs to stop. He sucks the fun out of every turn, descent or sprint.

    And he is forever repeating himself


  • #955
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    mewso wrote: »
    Ok so who is going to create the general Giro thread for a preview chat? Another volunteer for a velogames group needed :)

    Part 1 done ;)
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058183811


  • #956
    Paddigol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Hatches pontificating needs to stop. He sucks the fun out of every turn, descent or sprint.

    And he is forever repeating himself

    That's it for me - they're both a bit on the annoying side (but then it's not the easiest sport to commentate on, so I'm very forgiving) but at least with CK there's a light heartedness that goes well with racing in the sun. With RH though, everything is sooooooo serious and the most amazing thing ever to happen. Throw in his OTT pronunciation of foreign names and the scene is ripe for a rant at the telly.


  • #957
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,488 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I must be on outlier that I'd take Hatch any day of the week over CK. I don't mind Matt Stephens/ Adam "diamonds in the legs (as the belgians would say)" Blythe. José Been/ Backstedt was probably my favourite combo of the spring though.


  • #958
    breezy1985
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I must be on outlier that I'd take Hatch any day of the week over CK. I don't mind Matt Stephens/ Adam "diamonds in the legs (as the belgians would say)" Blythe. José Been/ Backstedt was probably my favourite combo of the spring though.

    I used be that way but since last year's high profile crashes and new safety rules he can't shut up.
    I know cycling has issues but there is no need to start wailing every time he sees a fan or a motorbike


  • #959
    dastardly00
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    20 km to go. Rui Costa has crashed.

    Any thoughts on who will win the stage?


  • #960
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I must be on outlier that I'd take Hatch any day of the week over CK. I don't mind Matt Stephens/ Adam "diamonds in the legs (as the belgians would say)" Blythe. José Been/ Backstedt was probably my favourite combo of the spring though.

    I was a Hatch fan up until last years Giro I think when Tao Geoghegan Hart become the best cyclist in the world and Arnaud Demare became the greatest sprinter of all time

    Don’t mind Kirby as his worst crime is just to waffle. No real harm.

    Blythe and the GCN boys are great. As is Jose Been


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  • #961
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,106 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Dodge wrote: »
    I was a Hatch fan up until last years Giro I think when Tao Geoghegan Hart become the best cyclist in the world and Arnaud Demare became the greatest sprinter of all time

    Don’t mind Kirby as his worst crime is just to waffle. No real harm.

    Blythe and the GCN boys are great. As is Jose Been

    I bet he wouldn't have been half as fawning in his praise if it was Hindley that Dennis was pulling up the road as he suddenly became the greatest mountain Dom ever


  • #962
    NamelessPhil
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    Dodge wrote: »

    Don’t mind Kirby as his worst crime is just to waffle. No real harm.

    Blythe and the GCN boys are great. As is Jose Been

    Kirby can retire asap. He misses half the action because he's either waffling or laughing at his own jokes. Brian Smith does his best to put some shape on the commentary with Kirby but I swear I can feel his eye-rolling at some of Kirby's antics from here.

    José Been and Magnus Backstedt are great, they know their stuff, have genuine insights into the racing and don't talk over each other.


  • #963
    Mefistofelino
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I bet he wouldn't have been half as fawning in his praise if it was Hindley that Dennis was pulling up the road as he suddenly became the greatest mountain Dom ever

    That title still belongs to George Hincapie- "The Eagle of Long Island"


  • #964
    dastardly00
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    Brilliant from Sam. Morkov came third; he probably would have come second if he hadn't have eased off before the finish.


  • #965
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    Wow that was an incredible delivery from Morkov.


  • #966
    Dodge
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    Saw the stat yesterday that same had won 6 of the 9 sprints he’s contested so far. So 7/10 now

    Today was a cake walk for DQT. I’ve no idea what has happened Bora and Ackerman


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  • #967
    dahat
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    Ackerman looks well out of sorts this year and cannot be relied upon in terms of the TDF, Bora have a real issue with him.

    It was such a dominant win for Sam, literally just disregarded everyone else and won the sprint as he liked.


  • #968
    breezy1985
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    dahat wrote: »
    Ackerman looks well out of sorts this year and cannot be relied upon in terms of the TDF, Bora have a real issue with him.

    It was such a dominant win for Sam, literally just disregarded everyone else and won the sprint as he liked.


    Should have backed Sam 2 years ago. Pascal Ackermann might be the best thing to happen to Irish cycling in 30 years


  • #969
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    I didn't see the sprint but reading that Ackermann didn't even beat Morkov :eek:

    It's amazing to see an Irish rider winning so consistently and being able to have such high expectations of him that he almost always delivers against.


  • #970
    breezy1985
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    mr spuckler wrote: »
    I didn't see the sprint but reading that Ackermann didn't even beat Morkov :eek:

    It's amazing to see an Irish rider winning so consistently and being able to have such high expectations of him that he almost always delivers against.


    RTE R1 played the sprint commentary on the news tonight for a race as relatively small as Algarve.


    If I was driving the car I would have crashed it


  • #971
    Dodge
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    RTE R1 played the sprint commentary on the news tonight for a race as relatively small as Algarve.


    If I was driving the car I would have crashed it

    Was on the 6-1 news on tv too


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  • #972
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,271 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Dodge wrote: »
    Was on the 6-1 news on tv too

    Good to see but likely due to lack of other sports events on a friday

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #973
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    I'm being selfish here, but crappy that he's becoming popular with Irish news outlets. Before,.you were pretty safe watching bulletins now, you have definitely have to avoid if you haven't seen it but recorded it.

    On a different note, and it's probably a very silly question. Would the likes of van der Poel be seen in the TdF? I know Wout was there last year purely from remembering him and demoulin and the time trial.

    Or would that be a totally different sport? (brain fart, can't think of the right word.)


  • #974
    breezy1985
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Good to see but likely due to lack of other sports events on a friday


    Its not the first ever Friday for RTE and they didnt have Friday coverage for Dan, Nico or pre green Sam for a race like Algarve before


  • #975
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    deise08 wrote: »
    I'm being selfish here, but crappy that he's becoming popular with Irish news outlets. Before,.you were pretty safe watching bulletins now, you have definitely have to avoid if you haven't seen it but recorded it.

    On a different note, and it's probably a very silly question. Would the likes of van der Poel be seen in the TdF? I know Wout was there last year purely from remembering him and demoulin and the time trial.

    Or would that be a totally different sport? (brain fart, can't think of the right word.)


    Van der Poel is due to ride the Tour this year for the first time. Van Aert will also be riding, though I'm not sure if it will be a similar support role to last year or if he'll have more freedom to target stages, green jersey etc.


  • #976
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    dahat wrote: »
    It was such a dominant win for Sam, literally just disregarded everyone else and won the sprint as he liked.


    Just saw it now - that was incredibly easy. Seeing the others move onto Morkov's wheel after Sam opened his sprint said it all.


  • #977
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,106 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    Just saw it now - that was incredibly easy. Seeing the others move onto Morkov's wheel after Sam opened his sprint said it all.


    Mick is a bloody legend


  • #978
    [Deleted User]
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    MTB racing is live at the minute with MvDP and Pidcock involved

    https://www.redbull.com/ie-en/live/men-xco-albstadt-2021-uci-mountain-bike-world-cup


  • #979
    Eamonnator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Deleted User wrote: »
    MTB racing is live at the minute with MvDP and Pidcock involved

    https://www.redbull.com/ie-en/live/men-xco-albstadt-2021-uci-mountain-bike-world-cup

    Pidcock 5th
    MvDP 7th, I think.

    Pidcock started from the 11th row of the grid. He had a great race.


  • #980
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,524 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Algarve looks interesting as well, Bennett, Morkov, Ackermann, Van Poppel all in the break 3m 30s ahead of the peloton


  • #981
    [Deleted User]
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    It's not something I watch a lot of, but gives me an appreciation of the skill set them two have. I'd not have been at all confident riding parts of that course.


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  • #982
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    Cracking finish to Algarve there.


  • #983
    mewso
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Cracking finish to Algarve there.

    Great stuff.


  • #984
    Inquitus
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Cracking finish to Algarve there.

    Local knowledge comes to the fore as the local lads in the Pro-Conti team mug Ineos and take the GC. Great finale!


  • #985
    retalivity
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    Great ride by Sam today. Getting in the break, then dropping the others (including morkov) on the climbs, then when finally dropped himself, gunning it on the front of the peloton to try and bring it back for Asgreen.
    I wonder as he gets older would he transition into more of a roleur/classics rider, seems more able to get over bumps now than he did previously


  • #986
    Macy0161
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    retalivity wrote: »
    I wonder as he gets older would he transition into more of a roleur/classics rider, seems more able to get over bumps now than he did previously
    Might be a positive if the move back to a sagan less bora comes to pass!


  • #987
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Great news :)

    Tom Dumoulin to return to racing at Tour de Suisse
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tom-dumoulin-to-return-to-racing-at-tour-de-suisse/


  • #988
    mewso
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    Couple of Irish lads in action at the Wallonie today (Ben Healy, Rory Townsend). On Eurosport player at 14:30.


  • #989
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    mewso wrote: »
    Couple of Irish lads in action at the Wallonie today (Ben Healy, Rory Townsend). On Eurosport player at 14:30.

    Archie Ryan was down to start the other day but don't see his name there now.


  • #990
    mewso
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Archie Ryan was down to start the other day but don't see his name there now.

    I did spot he was promoted the main team for the Vuelta a Andalucia on the 18th. Maybe thats why hes off the list.


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  • #991
    Dodge
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    mewso wrote: »
    Couple of Irish lads in action at the Wallonie today (Ben Healy, Rory Townsend). On Eurosport player at 14:30.

    Townsend finished 20th. Picks up 3 UCI points. Healy ended up 18 seconds down.


  • #992
    Mefistofelino
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    Absolutely cracking race at Tro Bro Leon again today. Deserved win for Conor Swift, though he nearly lost it on the line by celebrating too early.
    One of my favourite races - the narrow, twisting lanes make for great racing and give a fantastic impression of the speed of top level racing.


  • #993
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    Mefistofelino wrote: »
    Absolutely cracking race at Tro Bro Leon again today. Deserved win for Conor Swift, though he nearly lost it on the line by celebrating too early.
    One of my favourite races - the narrow, twisting lanes make for great racing and give a fantastic impression of the speed of top level racing.

    It's a race that many of us can relate to given some of the lanes they use. It's effectively Tour de Bohereen :D

    Paris - Tours is another race with it's route through the vineyards in recent years thats been equally entertaining

    It was tight from the photo at the end for sure and he was lucky to get away with it.


  • #994
    CramCycle
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It was tight from the photo at the end for sure and he was lucky to get away with it.

    The pat on his back from his teammate while they are waiting for confirmation, a real, I hope for your sake you won, otherwise that will be a bit embarrassing. He had a cracking race and I was surprised at how close it was.


  • #995
    Dodge
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    19 year old Archie Ryan is riding the Vuelta Andalucia that starts tomorrow with Jumbo Visma. He’s part of their development team but this is the main team (mix of pros and development riders). Eddie Dunbar is down for Ineos too

    https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/ruta-del-sol/2021/startlist


  • #996
    Dodge
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    Dodge wrote: »
    19 year old Archie Ryan is riding the Vuelta Andalucia that starts tomorrow with Jumbo Visma. He’s part of their development team but this is the main team (mix of pros and development riders). Eddie Dunbar is down for Ineos too

    https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/ruta-del-sol/2021/startlist
    The teams have been confirmed and Archie isn’t starting now

    Eddie Dunbar and Ryan Mullen are though from an Irish POV


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  • #997
    retalivity
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    Anyone know what happened Cavendish today at the Volta Andalucia? He finished on his own, 23mins behind 2nd last.


  • #998
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    Not sure I heard him mentioned at all but I was in and out while the race was on. The group he was a full 23 minutes down on had Oliveira in it who crashed so if he was able to get back on and visit the doctors cars I'd suspect illness for Cav.

    Nothing mentioned here either that I could see.

    https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    https://www.deceuninck-quickstep.com/en/news/4929/a-stage-for-the-puncheurs-in-spain

    I tell you what though seeing the shots from the helicopter today has given me an appetite to visit that part of Spain again big time. I was there in my late teens and have fond memories of the region.


  • #999
    Itziger
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Anyone know what happened Cavendish today at the Volta Andalucia? He finished on his own, 23mins behind 2nd last.

    I wouldn't call it that to anyone from Andalucia!


  • #1000
    neris
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I tell you what though seeing the shots from the helicopter today has given me an appetite to visit that part of Spain again big time. I was there in my late teens and have fond memories of the region.

    Once you get away from the coast, the apartments and resorts and head inland that part of Spain is lovely. Though not much for cycling if you don't like hills


  • #1001
    MangleBadger
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    Great last climb on Vuelta a Andalucia today. Looked brutal.


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