Why do motorcyclists always break the speed limit?

Potential-Monke · 14-08-2020 7:47am

There's better videos to give an idea of the speed than that. It's both amazing and scary! Especially the on-board ones!

Poor Uncle Tom · 14-08-2020 8:11am

TuringBot47 wrote: »

On a motorway where you have your own lane and are overtaking someone at the speed limit?
yes.

That would be a sight, a motorway with 2 million lanes!

or do you just think you own the road?

Wanderer78 · 14-08-2020 8:15am

Potential-Monke wrote:

There's better videos to give an idea of the speed than that. It's both amazing and scary! Especially the on-board ones!

Those lads are just nuts, impressive though

J Madone · 14-08-2020 8:22am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Those lads are just nuts, impressive though

"There are old pilots
There are bold pilots
There are no old bold pilots."
Said to me by a man when I had motorbikes

Esel · 14-08-2020 8:26am

"Most motorcycles last a lifetime."

LillySV · 14-08-2020 8:36am

I’ve been a biker since I was 16 and had people say I was speeding and going over 100 since the start... even though my starter bike was an rg 80 that probably couldn’t even do 60 down a steep hill, let alone 100!!! The same type of nosey assholes would make up grand stories of my reckless speeding to my parents and worry them.... even though it wasn’t physically true. I could say they thought i was speeding cause the bike was small and revs loud and they were mistaken but we know that’s not the case ... it’s just that there’s afew troublesome moaney ***** on this earth with a bias towards bikers.

If u open your eyes on the motorway these days you’ll notice that the biggest speeders flying by on the road are the “responsible “ parents driving sorrentos, sante fes etc ....

jim o doom · 14-08-2020 8:50am

I have been driving motorcycles for 20 years now, and I do tend to drive on the fast side. I drive a lot less these days and cycle more to be healthy and try not to be overweight and the like.

If anyone drives the main road between Dublin and Belfast, you will regularly see all sorts of vechicles vastly exceeding the stated speed limit, motorcycles, beamers, audis, fords, vans.. not every vehicle is speeding, but every type of vehicle is, up to and including massive trucks. A lot more cars are flying back and forth on that road than bikes at very high speeds.

I'm not super fast but I do tend to exceed most limits by a small amount, and accelerate hard. It's fun, I have a good driving skill set, and a quality race bike with excellent balance and brakes.

To all the people joking about dead bikers, and the organ donations - it's quite hilarious to see people basically hating on bikers for speeding, but thinking that they themselves are acceptable people while wishing death on other folk who are merely exceeding a limit - total and utter hypocrites in other words.

It's not ok to go fast, but it's ok to wish death on someone who performs an action you don't agree with? Yeah grow up.

Wanderer78 · 14-08-2020 8:51am

jim o doom wrote:

If anyone drives the main road between Dublin and Belfast, you will regularly see all sorts of vechicles vastly exceeding the stated speed limit, motorcycles, beamers, audis, fords, vans.. not every vehicle is speeding, but every type of vehicle is, up to and including massive trucks. A lot more cars are flying back and forth on that road than bikes at very high speeds.

Is it easy to disconnect the limiter on trucks?

jim o doom · 14-08-2020 9:13am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Is it easy to disconnect the limiter on trucks?

I have no idea - I do know that I have seen every single type of vehicle speeding.

How does a truck limiter operate exactly? Is it relevant to the speed limit on each road, or is it a max limit that the truck cannot exceed?

If it's the latter, there are going to be plenty of roads that have limits lower than the trucks max speed.

CrankyHaus · 14-08-2020 9:42am

jim o doom wrote: »

I have no idea - I do know that I have seen every single type of vehicle speeding.

How does a truck limiter operate exactly? Is it relevant to the speed limit on each road, or is it a max limit that the truck cannot exceed?

If it's the latter, there are going to be plenty of roads that have limits lower than the trucks max speed.

It's a limiter to 90 Km/h usually. Many loaded trucks will have a hard time getting up to speed on normal roads so speeding isn't such a big problem, but they make up for it by running red lights that have just changed.

jim o doom · 14-08-2020 9:49am

CrankyHaus wrote: »

It's a limiter to 90 Km/h usually. Many loaded trucks will have a hard time getting up to speed on normal roads so speeding isn't such a big problem, but they make up for it by running red lights that have just changed.

If they are limited to 90 I must not have seen them speeding on the motorway so I may be mistaken on that part - defo have seen speeding trucks though. They aren't always loaded.

Scary things to pass on a motorbike! When I was young and had a low powered 125 marauder I was driving behind a truck, slipstreaming him and that allowed me to catch up.. then I would attempt to overtake (dual carriageway) and get hit by the wind coming off the side.. and the little bike would slow right back down again. Fun times.

Wanderer78 · 14-08-2020 10:40am

jim o doom wrote: »

I have no idea - I do know that I have seen every single type of vehicle speeding.

How does a truck limiter operate exactly? Is it relevant to the speed limit on each road, or is it a max limit that the truck cannot exceed?

If it's the latter, there are going to be plenty of roads that have limits lower than the trucks max speed.

ive no idea how they work to be honest, but id say theyre fairly difficult to crack, but im sure not impossible, but i suspect very few do, i also suspect theyre factory fitted

jim o doom wrote: »

If they are limited to 90 I must not have seen them speeding on the motorway so I may be mistaken on that part - defo have seen speeding trucks though. They aren't always loaded.

Scary things to pass on a motorbike! When I was young and had a low powered 125 marauder I was driving behind a truck, slipstreaming him and that allowed me to catch up.. then I would attempt to overtake (dual carriageway) and get hit by the wind coming off the side.. and the little bike would slow right back down again. Fun times.

wind turbulence from a truck is terrifying, particularly on a bicycle

Stovepipe · 14-08-2020 10:48am

If you believe 2 and 3 of that list, you are a fool. Doctors call bikers "organ donors" and as one relative of mine, who is an ED consultant told me, "donations" start on Friday evening, run right through the weekend and tail off by Monday morning. Most bikers are killed by collisions with cars, but a continual few are killed by collisions with solid objects after coming off the bike at high speed. "Sorry, mate, I didn't see you", was the old, cruel joke from car drivers. Most bikers are careful, defensive drivers because they have to be and virtually all are also car drivers.

jim o doom · 14-08-2020 11:02am

Stovepipe wrote: »

If you believe 2 and 3 of that list, you are a fool. Doctors call bikers "organ donors" and as one relative of mine, who is an ED consultant told me, "donations" start on Friday evening, run right through the weekend and tail off by Monday morning. Most bikers are killed by collisions with cars, but a continual few are killed by collisions with solid objects after coming off the bike at high speed. "Sorry, mate, I didn't see you", was the old, cruel joke from car drivers. Most bikers are careful, defensive drivers because they have to be and virtually all are also car drivers.

I only drive motorbikes and bicycles, and you can still drive fast while driving defensively and fully aware of what's going on around you.

Wanderer78 · 14-08-2020 11:21am

jim o doom wrote: »

I only drive motorbikes and bicycles, and you can still drive fast while driving defensively and fully aware of what's going on around you.

unfortunately i think some of us think we re better drivers than we actually are, including myself, we should be regularly checked

SEPT 23 1989 · 14-08-2020 1:59pm

great video

and 8 minutes 10 seconds onwards:eek:

Wanderer78 · 14-08-2020 2:00pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

great video

and 8 minutes 10 seconds onwards:eek:

two legends

Muahahaha · 14-08-2020 2:32pm

The TT stuff is mind blowing, it is hard to believe they are going those speeds let alone racing each other a close quarters at the same time. The skill of those riders is truly world class.

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I've been a pillion on a few bikes, and nothing scared me more than being on the back of a Hayabusa. The pilot (yes, pilot, because a normal driver won't be able to handle that power) told me to grab on and don't let go as if my life depended on it. I still haven't felt such acceleration in my life, and by jesus did I hold on for dear life. I asked him how fast he went when I eventually got off, with my legs like jelly. He said he didn't break the speed limit, but got there as quick as possible. And I do that myself in my car. For the first time, I have a car that can accelerate quite quickly, and I do tend to get to the limit as fast as it'll get me there. Not illegal as long as it's not done dangerously.

yeah thats most of the buzz for me with bikes, its not about breaking the limit, its about getting up to it as fast as possible. Opening up the throttle you feel wind pressure on your chest such is the acceleration, its a fantastic feeling to have such power available just by twisting your wrist.

jim o doom wrote: »

Scary things to pass on a motorbike! When I was young and had a low powered 125 marauder I was driving behind a truck, slipstreaming him and that allowed me to catch up.. then I would attempt to overtake (dual carriageway) and get hit by the wind coming off the side.. and the little bike would slow right back down again. Fun times.

yeah my first bike was a 125 scooter which I drove on the motorways a couple of times a week. Passing trucks on it was scary stuff, apart from passing close by to their row of huge tyres you knew when you got past the cab there would be a blast of wind which would push you sideways. I used to brace myself for it and just hope it didnt blow me off the motorway and into the median strip. My bike now is a fair bit heavier than a 125 scooter so its not an issue but on the scooter I had some scary moments. Looking back just because you are allowed a 125 scooter on a motorway doesnt mean you should, I could have easily taken the old road and really should have in hindsight.

Agricola · 14-08-2020 2:38pm

In my nearly 20 years driving cars I only ever remember being tailed for a long distance by one motorbike. And that was no shock because I know the guy who was tailing me and he still has his confirmation money...

The other 99.99% of the time where I've been driving along at the speed limit, one or more motorbikes invariably appear on my boot from nowhere and then proceed to over take at full throttle the first chance they get.

I suppose to be fair, when your sitting on a machine that is at about half chat when travelling at 100k, it's probably extremely aluring to just give the wrist a quick flick and be gone into the distance. I doubt I'll ever know, would no doubt be killed off it.

Wanderer78 · 14-08-2020 3:30pm

Agricola wrote: »

In my nearly 20 years driving cars I only ever remember being tailed for a long distance by one motorbike. And that was no shock because I know the guy who was tailing me and he still has his confirmation money...

The other 99.99% of the time where I've been driving along at the speed limit, one or more motorbikes invariably appear on my boot from nowhere and then proceed to over take at full throttle the first chance they get.

I suppose to be fair, when your sitting on a machine that is at about half chat when travelling at 100k, it's probably extremely aluring to just give the wrist a quick flick and be gone into the distance. I doubt I'll ever know, would no doubt be killed off it.

...and is probably putting it all into his bike(s)

14-08-2020 3:37pm

Agricola wrote: »

...sitting on a machine that is at about half chat when travelling at 100k, it's probably extremely aluring to just give the wrist a quick flick and be gone into the distance...

Can't deny that - but it's mainly to keep a very healthy distance between me and other 2+ wheeled vehicles at all times - and if that means accelerating to 100+ (mph) to minimise the time we're in close proximity then that's what I'll do

Quite simply the further away you are from them, the safer you are.

The Tetrarch · 14-08-2020 7:38pm

Car drivers like a moan about cyclists and motorcyclists.
Why were traffic lights introduced?
Why were yellow grids at junctions introduced?
Why were double yellow lines introduced?
Car drivers breaking the rules is the answer in each case.

Gamer Bhoy 89 · 14-08-2020 7:53pm

For some reason, I have more respect for motorcyclists than car drivers. I dunno what it is.

Maybe I'm a little biased because I love the look and sound of motorbikes.

whisky_galore · 14-08-2020 8:34pm

Spotted a bike gaining fast on me earlier today in rear view mirror. Then what does he do, I still can't believe it....a wheelie.... a fücking wheelie... as if it was a BMX he had, and then goes supersonic past me. I usually have respect for bikers but this was an absolute numpty acting the maggot.

Zascar · 15-08-2020 6:30pm

There are a few elements to it. Any decent sized bike - compared to a car - is bind bendingly fast. Even going 100kph already a twist of the wrist and you are catapulted like you are at a standstill. It's incredible fun and very addictive. The other thing is they slow down even faster so you can stop in a very short distance if you need to. Mainly though it's because speed limits don't apply to motorbikes - it's in the rules of the road, everybody knows that!

Pythagorean · 17-08-2020 10:27pm

When I'm out on my Honda Transalp, ( a big bike, imposing and with a high seat) with my headlight on, and wearing the hi vis gear, I find great amusement in cruising up to a car doing well over the speed limit, watching him drop it straight away, and be on his best behaviour
for the next few miles. Then I whiz past him !!

Why do motorcyclists always break the speed limit?

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