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Got assaulted by the lodger in the house

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    #92
    Kangaroolala
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Kangaroolala


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Do you know any men that can help you evict her? As in, next time she leaves, grab all her stuff and put it outside, change the locks.

    Yeah the concern is where to leave her stuff. My house is right beside a quiet road. There is no front garden but a backyard which has to be accessed through the living room.


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    #93
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭This is it


    Kangaroolala wrote: »
    Yeah the concern is where to leave her stuff. My house is right beside a quiet road. There is no front garden but a backyard which has to be accessed through the living room.

    Boxes at the front door.


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    #94
    Kangaroolala
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Kangaroolala


    wandererz wrote: »
    Get the locksmith in to replace outer door locks and bedroom locks.
    Make copies of each.
    Don't tell the Argentinian guy until just before he returns home or he may warn the woman.
    Tell him that under no circumstances is he to let her in or he will be thrown out as well.

    Let her know just before she is due to arrive that she is no longer a lodger there and her things are Outside waiting to be collected.

    Take the day off work if you can and ensure your boyfriend and others are around to support you, especially around the time she arrives and through the evening.

    As for deposit, ask her for bank details to be texted & you can do a transfer.

    i asked for her bank detail since last week, and she refused and told me to leave the cash in an envelope for her.


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    #95
    Kangaroolala
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Kangaroolala


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    How if she is kicked out?

    It's not her room, she has no right unless of course you break or Rob her stuff.

    Once out change lock, get into that room, bag everything and text her that everything is available to be collected.

    Do not let her back in.

    You have been advised now numerous times to not do this alone and if any more threats call 999 and ask for assistance as stated.

    You need others with you.

    I will video record everything if I gonna do it.


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    #96
    This is it
    Registered Users Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭This is it


    Kangaroolala wrote: »
    i asked for her bank detail since last week, and she refused and told me to leave the cash in an envelope for her.

    Obviously don't give her cash. Use something that provides proof of return of the deposit.


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    #97
    feelthepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭feelthepower


    Cashiers check in her name would do the job. You have a receipt and its made out to her.

    Can be done at any bank counter. Only thing is though you would want her out of the house first.

    Tell her she can collect deposit the following day.


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    #98
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,029 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Kangaroolala wrote: »
    i asked for her bank detail since last week, and she refused and told me to leave the cash in an envelope for her.

    If she wants her deposit badly enough she'll give you the details. Don't even countenance anything other than a bank transfer


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    #99
    wandererz
    Registered Users Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭wandererz


    How did she pay the deposit?
    Cash or bank transfer or other?


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    #100
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    This is it wrote: »
    Boxes at the front door.
    This, so you can pass them out to her when she comes to collect. Don't turf them out on the road as others have suggested unless you want to potentially damage her belongings and draw this out further. Keep it professional. She doesn't deserve it but it's the best way to resolve things.


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    #101
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    TheChizler wrote: »
    This, so you can pass them out to her when she comes to collect. Don't turf them out on the road as others have suggested unless you want to potentially damage her belongings and draw this out further. Keep it professional. She doesn't deserve it but it's the best way to resolve things.
    I'd agree except this fruitcake has been physical before I wouldn't trust her not to barge in if the door was open to pass things out. OP if your gonna open the door to her to pass out her stuff you need a friend with you.


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    #102
    Inquitus
    Registered Users Posts: 13,734 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Sorry to hear about your circumstances with this lodger, lots of good advice in this thread, as continually mentioned, make sure you have at least one man with you, preferably more than one person, to ensure she leaves in as peaceful a manner as possible, she is clearly a lowlife with experience in abusing other people's hospitality and homes.


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    #103
    Jade2015
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭Jade2015


    I havent read all the post replies,
    But change the locks and get a barring order from the court, get a statement off the gardai to say you reported her violent and threats to you or property. Have your boyfriend or friend stay over with you until shes gone. You already been given advise on getting a bunch of Basta keys from a hardware store for a deposit so take this advise. Take the morning off work tomorrow if you can and do this asap, and have a friend or someone with you when the person is due to return


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    #104
    Fol20
    Registered Users Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Fol20


    Hendrix Chubby Collie wrote: »
    Her behavior is causing the lock to have to be changed. Also I’d feel justified in keeping the money as compensation for the hassle she is causing. She hasn’t a leg to stand on trying to get it back, not like she can go crying to the rtb etc she has no rights.

    She can go to small claims court and based on what your response. She should give the money back.

    Hassle doesn’t equate to keeping a deposit
    Bad behaviour that has led to no material damage doesn’t equate to keep a deposit.


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    #105
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Fol20 wrote: »
    She can go to small claims court and based on what your response. She should give the money back.

    Hassle doesn’t equate to keeping a deposit
    Bad behaviour that has led to no material damage doesn’t equate to keep a deposit.
    She has refused to pay bills


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    #106
    pwurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Deposit is not usually given back immediately, so this is a few weeks off anyway. Next set of bills need to be received to determine what is owed on them.

    OP, good luck tomorrow with the locksmith.


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    #107
    Leilak
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Leilak


    Leave her belongings at Garda station, then change the locks! she sees you as very weak so is taking advantage of your quiet nature, have a male presence there most of the time and be ready to record any conversations with her. She will leave but you must act tougher


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    #108
    Fol20
    Registered Users Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Fol20


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    She has refused to pay bills

    I missed that. If she hasn’t paid bills. Then yes. Keep whatever bills are owed.


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    #109
    antonboyle
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭antonboyle


    Your a tenant & irrespective of subletting property this is an issue that the landlord should be sorting out.
    I would put the onus on him to resolve matter & tell him that tenant is intent on burning house & that you are fearful of your health & safety


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    #110
    [Deleted User]
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    antonboyle wrote: »
    Your a tenant & irrespective of subletting property this is an issue that the landlord should be sorting out.
    I would put the onus on him to resolve matter & tell him that tenant is intent on burning house & that you are fearful of your health & safety

    It’s nothing to do with the LL and involving him is a very bad idea for multiple reasons.


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    #111
    Fol20
    Registered Users Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Fol20


    antonboyle wrote: »
    Your a tenant & irrespective of subletting property this is an issue that the landlord should be sorting out.
    I would put the onus on him to resolve matter & tell him that tenant is intent on burning house & that you are fearful of your health & safety

    So a tenant sources a new tenant to sublet to with no involvement from the ll but when there is now an issue with the new tenant. It’s the ll issue.... please explain.


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    #112
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    antonboyle wrote: »
    Your a tenant & irrespective of subletting property this is an issue that the landlord should be sorting out.
    I would put the onus on him to resolve matter & tell him that tenant is intent on burning house & that you are fearful of your health & safety

    Terrible idea....

    LL if allows which they did, don't want the fuss I'm sure.

    They'd prefer if the tenant sorts it.


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    #113
    Fireball81
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    antonboyle wrote: »
    Your a tenant & irrespective of subletting property this is an issue that the landlord should be sorting out.
    I would put the onus on him to resolve matter & tell him that tenant is intent on burning house & that you are fearful of your health & safety

    Rubbish- ignore this and go with the advice on this thread.


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    #114
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Out onto the kerb with her stuff when she’s gone in the morning.bag and baggage.lifes too short to be suffering fools like her.send pedros stuff with it if they are a click.
    Out with the two wasters.
    The next crowd you get take no sh1te from the beginning.friendly but professional.
    Boundaries and respect.
    Rent on time.
    No messing


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    #115
    stateofflux
    Registered Users Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    Kangaroolala wrote: »
    The garda told me to go to the station to make a statement on Wednesday evening. But there are still three days before Wednesday.

    Go down to the Garda station now and say that you are in Fear of your life. Don't take any ****e. Sit there trembling if you have to. This is not a Civil issue anymore as threats to life have been made against you.


    OP You are in over your head with serious scum that will try anything to make your life a hell. Gardai all the way now... Be Strong.

    Look into legal representation also asap.

    Any action you make with BF present could lead to god know what... you dont know what this person is capable of


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    #116
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    OP I hate to be harsh but did you ask your LL if it was okay to sublet?


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    #117
    antix80
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    OP I hate to be harsh but did you ask your LL if it was okay to sublet?

    Were talking about a criminal matter, what does that have to do with anything?

    Sorry you're being assaulted and threatened in your own home, but is subletting a violation of your contract with your landlord.

    Completely irrelevant.


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    #118
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    antix80 wrote: »
    Were talking about a criminal matter, what does that have to do with anything?

    Sorry you're being assaulted and threatened in your own home, but is subletting a violation of your contract with your landlord.

    Completely irrelevant.

    It's not irrelevant though is it? In terms of what your allowed to do it's very relevant.

    If you've broken the terms of your original lease then you're on shaky ground.


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    #119
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    OP I hate to be harsh but did you ask your LL if it was okay to sublet?

    Already asked and answered.


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    #120
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,517 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    antix80 wrote: »
    Were talking about a criminal matter.

    Mod Note
    You’ve hit the nail on the head here.
    OP, as this is possibly a criminal matter, you should go to the Gardai and/or seek legal advice.

    Thread closed.


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