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Got assaulted by the lodger in the house

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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    I might need to take a half day off from work tomorrow morning and do it. There is an Argintinan guy who also lives here, my concern is that he will let her in as they speak the same language.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Fol20 wrote: »
    Nope, im just familiar with deposit retention etc and in this case, its a social thing where it creates more hassle than it is worth to keep a deposit especially if it isnt warranted.

    I see where you are coming from and my observation is that the op is timid and I take that into consideration.

    But this house devil deserves no sympathy and should be tossed out the door, English 80's comedy style.
    None of this Liberal pc crap.

    Grab the bags, leave them open and out the door like Basil Faulty would have done.
    No conscious just fling it all out the door.

    No mercy


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    nthclare wrote: »
    I see where you are coming from and my observation is that the op is timid and I take that into consideration.

    But this house devil deserves no sympathy and should be tossed out the door, English 80's comedy style.
    None of this Liberal pc crap.

    Grab the bags, leave them open and out the door like Basil Faulty would have done.
    No conscious just fling it all out the door.

    No mercy

    Just got back from the Garda station. Garda contacted her for making a statement on Wednesday. Hopefully the justice can be returned to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    It is me who let her live in here, so the landlord is not involved.

    Yes, but if you're subletting it should be in your lease to say the landlord is okay with you subletting, is that the case? You also said earlier that the landlord was okay with you changing the keys, so I'm presuming you've told them about the situation?

    And the Argentinian guy, is he not on the lease either, you're subletting to him also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    nthclare wrote: »
    I see where you are coming from and my observation is that the op is timid and I take that into consideration.

    But this house devil deserves no sympathy and should be tossed out the door, English 80's comedy style.
    None of this Liberal pc crap.

    Grab the bags, leave them open and out the door like Basil Faulty would have done.
    No conscious just fling it all out the door.

    No mercy





    I’m with you nthclare. The op and her mates should put tysons stuff out on the lawn and land her out on the road shortly after by force if necessary.
    None of the nicey nicey sh1te.
    She took the ops kindness as weakness and took full advantage.
    Time to show the teeth,snarl and bite


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Fol20 wrote: »
    Nope, im just familiar with deposit retention etc and in this case, its a social thing where it creates more hassle than it is worth to keep a deposit especially if it isnt warranted.

    It appears warranted to me. I’d be keeping it to cover the cost of lock change and other hassle. Lodger hasn’t a leg to stand on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    I might need to take a half day off from work tomorrow morning and do it. There is an Argintinan guy who also lives here, my concern is that he will let her in as they speak the same language.




    Put him out aswell the fcuker if it comes to it.
    Horse her out the door bag and baggage and leave pedro in no doubt that he’ll be next out if he acts the boll1x


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I’m with you nthclare. The op and her mates should put tysons stuff out on the lawn and land her out on the road shortly after by force if necessary.
    None of the nicey nicey sh1te.
    She took the ops kindness as weakness and took full advantage.
    Time to show the teeth,snarl and bite

    Absolutely and no compromise or forgiveness.
    Out the door, the absolute cheek of someone treating someone so badly who's been accommodating is zero tolerance.
    Get the guards involved too, and more than likely deportation will probably be the end result.

    The ones advocating a more lenient approach are the same types whod be behaving like the one abusing this poor lady.

    I've come across bleeding heart liberals who are absolute nightmares to share space with.

    Everything is a potential row, nice day isn't it, it wasn't nice yesterday.

    How are you doing, how do you think I am.

    Nice jacket, it does what its intended for...

    I've experienced the same thing in the 90's hippy dippy 2nd wave liberals although the third wave is worse


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    nthclare wrote: »
    I see where you are coming from and my observation is that the op is timid and I take that into consideration.

    But this house devil deserves no sympathy and should be tossed out the door, English 80's comedy style.
    None of this Liberal pc crap.

    Grab the bags, leave them open and out the door like Basil Faulty would have done.
    No conscious just fling it all out the door.

    No mercy

    The Garda also suggest just leave her stuff out of the house and change the lock. The problem here is that I don’t have a key for her room. How can I get her stuff out before I change the lock?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    The Garda also suggest just leave her stuff out of the house and change the lock. The problem here is that I don’t have a key for her room. How can I get her stuff out before I change the lock?

    Actually that's a problem alright.
    Well maybe the landlord has a spare key.
    Then you can get the stuff and leave it outside the front door, hopefully it'll be raining too, just to rub salt into the situation.

    I hope you do get rid of this loon.

    The stress must be at tipping point at this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,814 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    nthclare wrote: »
    Actually that's a problem alright.
    Well maybe the landlord has a spare key.

    I hope you do get rid of this loon.

    The stress must be at tipping point at this time.

    What kind of lock is on the bedroom doors? Is it a basta lock? Is there any extra lock fitted to that particular door?

    If it’s a basta lock or a union lock you can buy keys for these in some hardware stores (though probably not on a Sunday).

    Alternatively, If you have someone with you when she returns to the house they can ask her for the key so you can get her belongings for her. But don’t let her back in the house.

    Please make sure you have someone you trust with you for the next while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    Arrival wrote: »
    Yes, but if you're subletting it should be in your lease to say the landlord is okay with you subletting, is that the case? You also said earlier that the landlord was okay with you changing the keys, so I'm presuming you've told them about the situation?

    And the Argentinian guy, is he not on the lease either, you're subletting to him also?

    Yeah I told the landlord. Since her move in from January, I haven’t got any good sleep. I am the only one on the lease, so the Argentina guy is not on the lease. He pretended he didn’t hear anything when the masculine woman was assaulting me. He only said he doesn’t want to get involved but was laughing with the masculine woman after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Are they the basta type lock?
    All hardware shops stock them and most will lend you the numbers bunch to open the door for a cash deposit you get back on return of the keys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Yeah I told the landlord. Since her move in from January, I haven’t got any good sleep. I am the only one on the lease, so the Argentina guy is not on the lease. He pretended he didn’t hear anything when the masculine woman was assaulting me. He only said he doesn’t want to get involved but was laughing with the masculine woman after.




    Them 2 fcukers need to be put out on the road.im guessing you were too nice to them and they took your kindness as weakness.
    Fire them out


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Them 2 fcukers need to be put out on the road.im guessing you were too nice to them and they took your kindness as weakness.
    Fire them out

    And deport them hopefully assault is serious especially in one's personal space.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    What kind of lock is on the bedroom doors? Is it a basta lock? Is there any extra lock fitted to that particular door?

    If it’s a basta lock or a union lock you can buy keys for these in some hardware stores (though probably not on a Sunday).

    Alternatively, If you have someone with you when she returns to the house they can ask her for the key so you can get her belongings for her. But don’t let her back in the house.

    Please make sure you have someone you trust with you for the next while.

    It is the basta lock. But how can I get one which exactly fits the keyhole for that room?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    It is the basta lock. But how can I get one which exactly fits the keyhole for that room?

    Get a locksmith in. You'll need them to change the house locks anyway.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,265 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Sounds like you need to arrange to have a few people stay around for a couple of nights and maybe during the day too in case she tries something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    It is the basta lock. But how can I get one which exactly fits the keyhole for that room?




    All hardware shops have a big bunch with all the numbers on it.its around 50 euro to borrow them to open the door and they give you the money back when you bring back the keys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    It is the basta lock. But how can I get one which exactly fits the keyhole for that room?

    You could drill it and replace.

    Is recommend having a new front door lock on hand and as soon as she leaves change it right away, then work on getting into bedroom, take photos and or video if possible and bag everything and arrange she can collect outside.

    Do everything through text or email, no calls unless recorded.

    I'd recommend having a the fella and or a friend or 2 for a few days until she is gone and clear.

    If there are more threats call 999 right away and actually call for assistance and you are in fear for your safety.

    You need her out today and if not tomorrow.

    Do not let this carry on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    strandroad wrote: »
    Get a locksmith in. You'll need them to change the house locks anyway.

    I am a bit of frightened if she will take revenge over me after that. I will get locksmith tomorrow morning. After all the locks sort out I will go to work. But how about she call the police when she comes back home for not able to open the door?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I am a bit of frightened if she will take revenge over me after that. I will get locksmith tomorrow morning. After all the locks sort out I will go to work. But how about she call the police when she comes back home for not able to open the door?

    They won't get involved as it's a civil matter.

    What have the cops said about the assault on you, have you made them aware she is smoking drugs?

    You need to contact them or go to them and ask to speak to a seargent and don't leave till you do.

    Be calm, think before you speak and don't be excited or shout...

    You need help and they are there to protect us all.

    Don't worry about what she will do or call and you worry about yourself.

    Can you have others stay with you for a bit of time or even be there today and tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    They won't get involved as it's a civil matter.

    What have the cops said about the assault on you, have you made them aware she is smoking drugs?

    You need to contact them or go to them and ask to speak to a seargent and don't leave till you do.

    Be calm, think before you speak and don't be excited or shout...

    You need help and they are there to protect us all.

    Don't worry about what she will do or call and you worry about yourself.

    Can you have others stay with you for a bit of time or even be there today and tonight.

    The garda told me to go to the station to make a statement on Wednesday evening. But there are still three days before Wednesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Tell the guards a tenant in the house is displaying serious mental health issues,smoking drugs,assaulting other house members and threatening to set the house on fire and that you fear for your safety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    The garda told me to go to the station to make a statement on Wednesday evening. But there are still three days before Wednesday.

    Get her out. When does she usually leave,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    You need to go to the guards as soon as possible. No offence, but you could be seriously hurt before Wednesday. This woman needs to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Fol20


    It appears warranted to me. I’d be keeping it to cover the cost of lock change and other hassle. Lodger hasn’t a leg to stand on.

    Why does it appear warranted to keep the deposit?
    Was the locks damaged, if not why did you keep the deposit. Locks are cheap. Just give back the deposit and be done with the lodger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Fol20 wrote: »
    Why does it appear warranted to keep the deposit?
    Was the locks damaged, if not why did you keep the deposit. Locks are cheap. Just give back the deposit and be done with the lodger

    Nobody has kept it, she is still there....


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    Tell the guards a tenant in the house is displaying serious mental health issues,smoking drugs,assaulting other house members and threatening to set the house on fire and that you fear for your safety.

    Is there a safer way to protect myself? She would go mad and report me for breaking into her room☹️


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Is there a safer way to protect myself? She would go mad and report me for breaking into her room☹️

    How if she is kicked out?

    It's not her room, she has no right unless of course you break or Rob her stuff.

    Once out change lock, get into that room, bag everything and text her that everything is available to be collected.

    Do not let her back in.

    You have been advised now numerous times to not do this alone and if any more threats call 999 and ask for assistance as stated.

    You need others with you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Is there a safer way to protect myself? She would go mad and report me for breaking into her room☹️

    Maybe the landlord knows the law? Perhaps go to Citizens advise.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Fol20 wrote: »
    Why does it appear warranted to keep the deposit?
    Was the locks damaged, if not why did you keep the deposit. Locks are cheap. Just give back the deposit and be done with the lodger

    Her behavior is causing the lock to have to be changed. Also I’d feel justified in keeping the money as compensation for the hassle she is causing. She hasn’t a leg to stand on trying to get it back, not like she can go crying to the rtb etc she has no rights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Her behavior is causing the lock to have to be changed. Also I’d feel justified in keeping the money as compensation for the hassle she is causing. She hasn’t a leg to stand on trying to get it back, not like she can go crying to the rtb etc she has no rights.

    This will only drag it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Her behavior is causing the lock to have to be changed. Also I’d feel justified in keeping the money as compensation for the hassle she is causing. She hasn’t a leg to stand on trying to get it back, not like she can go crying to the rtb etc she has no rights.

    This will only drag it out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    Get her out. When does she usually leave,

    she usually leaves the house in the morning about 8:30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Get the locksmith in to replace outer door locks and bedroom locks.
    Make copies of each.
    Don't tell the Argentinian guy until just before he returns home or he may warn the woman.
    Tell him that under no circumstances is he to let her in or he will be thrown out as well.

    Let her know just before she is due to arrive that she is no longer a lodger there and her things are Outside waiting to be collected.

    Take the day off work if you can and ensure your boyfriend and others are around to support you, especially around the time she arrives and through the evening.

    As for deposit, ask her for bank details to be texted & you can do a transfer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Her behavior is causing the lock to have to be changed. Also I’d feel justified in keeping the money as compensation for the hassle she is causing. She hasn’t a leg to stand on trying to get it back, not like she can go crying to the rtb etc she has no rights.

    Money back and get rid, you don't want to have her looking for it and dragging it on.

    Obviously if there is money owed for bills etc then deduct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Have you filed an assault charge against the woman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    she usually leaves the house in the morning about 8:30.

    Take the day off work if you can.

    Book a locksmith for 10am and get it done.

    Put her stuff in bags and put outside, if she tries to force herself in, call the gards, as others have suggested, try and have some people with you there tomorrow night.

    Thats it sorted, she has no rights and will soon realise that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,503 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Yeah I would like to know what to do. she is bigger than me and very violent too, I will get hurt again If I confront her. If Garda can come over and let her go, I would be so happy to refund her deposit at the presence of Garda.

    Do you know any men that can help you evict her? As in, next time she leaves, grab all her stuff and put it outside, change the locks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    Do you know any men that can help you evict her? As in, next time she leaves, grab all her stuff and put it outside, change the locks.

    Yeah the concern is where to leave her stuff. My house is right beside a quiet road. There is no front garden but a backyard which has to be accessed through the living room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭This is it


    Yeah the concern is where to leave her stuff. My house is right beside a quiet road. There is no front garden but a backyard which has to be accessed through the living room.

    Boxes at the front door.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    wandererz wrote: »
    Get the locksmith in to replace outer door locks and bedroom locks.
    Make copies of each.
    Don't tell the Argentinian guy until just before he returns home or he may warn the woman.
    Tell him that under no circumstances is he to let her in or he will be thrown out as well.

    Let her know just before she is due to arrive that she is no longer a lodger there and her things are Outside waiting to be collected.

    Take the day off work if you can and ensure your boyfriend and others are around to support you, especially around the time she arrives and through the evening.

    As for deposit, ask her for bank details to be texted & you can do a transfer.

    i asked for her bank detail since last week, and she refused and told me to leave the cash in an envelope for her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 Kangaroolala


    How if she is kicked out?

    It's not her room, she has no right unless of course you break or Rob her stuff.

    Once out change lock, get into that room, bag everything and text her that everything is available to be collected.

    Do not let her back in.

    You have been advised now numerous times to not do this alone and if any more threats call 999 and ask for assistance as stated.

    You need others with you.

    I will video record everything if I gonna do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,697 ✭✭✭This is it


    i asked for her bank detail since last week, and she refused and told me to leave the cash in an envelope for her.

    Obviously don't give her cash. Use something that provides proof of return of the deposit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭feelthepower


    Cashiers check in her name would do the job. You have a receipt and its made out to her.

    Can be done at any bank counter. Only thing is though you would want her out of the house first.

    Tell her she can collect deposit the following day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    i asked for her bank detail since last week, and she refused and told me to leave the cash in an envelope for her.

    If she wants her deposit badly enough she'll give you the details. Don't even countenance anything other than a bank transfer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭wandererz


    How did she pay the deposit?
    Cash or bank transfer or other?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    This is it wrote: »
    Boxes at the front door.
    This, so you can pass them out to her when she comes to collect. Don't turf them out on the road as others have suggested unless you want to potentially damage her belongings and draw this out further. Keep it professional. She doesn't deserve it but it's the best way to resolve things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    TheChizler wrote: »
    This, so you can pass them out to her when she comes to collect. Don't turf them out on the road as others have suggested unless you want to potentially damage her belongings and draw this out further. Keep it professional. She doesn't deserve it but it's the best way to resolve things.
    I'd agree except this fruitcake has been physical before I wouldn't trust her not to barge in if the door was open to pass things out. OP if your gonna open the door to her to pass out her stuff you need a friend with you.


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