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UFC 245 - Usman vs. Covington, Sat Dec 14th.

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  • #202
    MrStuffins
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    xckjoo wrote: »
    I just did. See my other comment. Literally just watched it a dozen times. The only difference between my memory and what happened was there was a few glancing blows to the back of the head before Usman moved to punching around the arm and into the face.

    It went, armpit, back of head, back of head, armpit, face, face, multiple blows to side of head until ref stoppage. Colby didn't have a leg either. Was never close to closing his hands. They were on the legs but never active. Colby was more done than I originally thought.

    Can you share the gif?


  • #203
    The Nal
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Can you share the gif?

    Hes clearly done. Fell from a weak punch and then basically didnt move.

    WarmGiftedHorseshoecrab-size_restricted.gif
    HiddenThirstyJohndory-size_restricted.gif


  • #204
    MrStuffins
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Hes clearly done. Fell from a weak punch and then basically didnt move.

    Neither show the finishing shots i'm afraid. I remember clearly seeing shots to the back of the head.

    Maybe i'm mistaken. If I am, fair enough. If not, then it doesn't really matter whether he moved or not.


  • #205
    xckjoo
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Neither show the finishing shots i'm afraid. I remember clearly seeing shots to the back of the head.

    Maybe i'm mistaken. If I am, fair enough. If not, then it doesn't really matter whether he moved or not.

    Wasn't sure if were allowed post links to it but this one is fairly complete
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MatureUnimportantCrossbill-mobile.mp4


  • #206
    MrStuffins
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    xckjoo wrote: »
    Wasn't sure if were allowed post links to it but this one is fairly complete
    https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MatureUnimportantCrossbill-mobile.mp4

    I can see the argument that they're the side of the head. However, I think they are shots to the back of the head.

    I think Goddard was very quick to stop the fight. He didn't really give Colby a chance.


  • #207
    rob316
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    The Nal wrote: »
    Hes clearly done. Fell from a weak punch and then basically didnt move.

    WarmGiftedHorseshoecrab-size_restricted.gif
    HiddenThirstyJohndory-size_restricted.gif

    Its the most half hearted grab for his legs too. He was done, no point taking more punishment for the sake of it.


  • #208
    xckjoo
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I can see the argument that they're the side of the head. However, I think they are shots to the back of the head.

    I think Goddard was very quick to stop the fight. He didn't really give Colby a chance.
    Ya I get you. You could debate all day if it's the back or side of the head. I'd consider all but the first couple to be side. If it was just that knockdown I'd say Goddard was too quick, but taken as a whole I think it was fine. Colby was on autopilot by then and Usman was all over him. Goddard saved him some punishment.


  • #209
    The Nal
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I think Goddard was very quick to stop the fight. He didn't really give Colby a chance.

    Theres about 20 unanswered shots there inc both knockdowns. Colby nearly collapsed trying to throw that last punch.

    He was exhausted, his jaw was broken and his face was covered in blood. He was done. Good stoppage.


  • #210
    rob316
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    Some people like to see fighters unconscious before a fight is stopped I don't get it. The ref takes the whole fight into account, if he has a suspected broken jaw that is going to effect the refs judgement when he's laying lifeless on the ground in the closing minute. How much damage has he taken to the head? How many cuts? How much blood is there? All of these are taken into account.


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  • #211
    Lachlan Early Stratosphere
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    Big John McCarthy has said before that a ref is always looking for things that people in the crowd, or at home, will never be able to pick up on.

    He said referees take the minutest of details into account when refereeing. He mentioned something about when a fighter is bleeding, he'll know by the way they're breathing if they're safe to continue or if the blood is obstructing the airflow.

    It was very interesting. I'm not sure if it was on Rogan's podcast or his own one.


  • #212
    The Nal
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    You can see Goddard talking to Colby too. Assuming saying "show me something" or whatever they usually say. Said it 2 or 3 times and nothing. Time to stop the fight.


  • #213
    rob316
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    Goddard has about 15 years experience I trust his opinion. It's easy to criticize watching on TV but they have the lives of fighters in their hands. Do they make mistakes? Absolutely as done any ref in any sport, they are only human.


  • #214
    JacksonHeightsOwn
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    Anyone that disagrees with that stoppage is retarded.

    Covington was done. Great refereeing by Goddard.

    As someone said earlier, the lust for people to see a guy unconscious is crazy. He was cooked


  • #215
    Effects
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    He didn't really give Colby a chance.

    A chance to accept more damage? What would the point of that be?


  • #216
    eagle eye
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    MrStuffins wrote:
    I think Goddard was very quick to stop the fight. He didn't really give Colby a chance.
    He gave him a chance, he didn't stop it the first time he went down, he stopped it when he got back up got hit again and went down again with Usman going in for the kill.


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  • #217
    dave1982
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    Ariel reporting colby got a flat 500k no PPV points.. Usman did


  • #218
    rob316
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    dave1982 wrote: »
    Ariel reporting colby got a flat 500k no PPV points.. Usman did

    When you take out taxes, expenses, cost of camp etc its really **** all for what you put on the line.


  • #219
    Mehaffey1
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    Effects wrote: »
    A chance to accept more damage? What would the point of that be?

    Finally caught up with seeing this fight and agree with this. Marc Goddard saved Colby from himself and I don't think there was any way Colby was recovering from that position when the fight was stopped. Some shots to the back of the head in the ending but I believe Usman had the presence of mind to adjust and start to change his shot placement.

    Had it 2-2 in my head going into the 5th and Usman taking the round after the first knock down shy of an actual miracle from Colby.


  • #220
    MidlanderMan
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    dave1982 wrote: »
    Ariel reporting colby got a flat 500k no PPV points.. Usman did

    It's no win bonus, not no ppv points.


  • #221
    Mellor
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    MidlanderMan wrote: »
    It's no win bonus, not no ppv points.
    A flat fee means no win bonus. Ariel is talking about no ppv points on top of the flat fee

    https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28321467/forget-nunes-shields-harrison-fight


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