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EA UFC 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Great analysis video from a game tester who was invited to play it a few months back. The vulnerabilities, new movement and lack of parries make it look like the striking will be next level altogether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Buzzing for this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    A new video was shown last night during 217. Some nice moves and graphics in this.

    217 spoilers below!!!

    Dev confirmed you can get finishes just like
    TJ and Rose KO's.

    He said because of the new vulnerabilities, there will be lot more flash KO's until people stop throwing big moves and start fighting smart.

    1 of the MMA media mentioned he had about 30 fights and it didn't go decision once. Sounds like you will have to defend properly and hold back on the spinning **** which is great. EA didn't want flash KO's in the last game because people would complain about it being unfair. I'm glad they implemented a system to now explain it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I just saw a pic on twitter that if you go into EA UFC 2 main menu, there should be a section to buy the champ champ edition of 3 at 10% discount. I'm internetless atm so can't check it. Not sure if it's just US or Europe too.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    That footage reminded me of something else that annoyed me in EA UFC. The lack of the ability to apply a submission or sweep off your back to a standing opponent. In one of the previous games, think it was the original UFC games you could apply a sub off your back. So if you get dropped and you are on your back for example and someone comes over and is just constantly kicking you while you are on the ground you could apply a sub/sweep. Or you could also just drop to your back and try lure them in for the same. In the current one if you are dropped and end up on your back they usually just walk over and start repeatedly soccer kicking you and you have no real action apart from trying to block these or stand up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Yeah you should be able to pull guard again and have quicker transitions in subs.

    Got it confirmed that you can get a 10% discount off the Champion Edition of 3 if you buy it through EA UFC 2. That makes it 81 euro instead of 90, only 11 more than the regular version.

    Other psn stores in different countries actually let you know this if you try to buy it. I've put in a refund request with Sony anyway so I can get it again on discount, will see what they say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Only problem with that is if you bought it originally from a foreign store like I did (Canada I think), you can’t get that offer in the game while logged into your Irish account. Will only affect a tiny amount of people but it’s still annoying, there’s no point in me getting the Champ Champ Edition when the bonus content that comes with it will be locked to my foreign account that I never use. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Yeah the us and Canada stores are selling it way cheaper than Irish but I put the free premium packs in UFC 2 to good use so didn't mind paying the extra to get on Irish store but I definitely want that 10% discount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I got my refund off Sony, that was quick! But they put it back into my wallet instead of credit card, hope they can still move it back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Sony on the ball, move the money back into my cred card, no issues. Now to ask Santy for psn cards.

    Read this from one of the EA Game Changers who playtested it. These guys are usually very critical of what the devs do so I'd believe anything positive they say, not just fanboys.
    Without revealing any hard gameplay info, I can say I loved what I played at the last GC event and I've been in withdrawal ever since. I literally can't go back to UFC2. It would be like stepping back into the Dark Ages out of the Enlightenment.

    Brian Hayes, in his interview with Hip Hop Gamer, says something like "Our lead gameplay engineer came to us and said 'I want to totally scrap our standup and start over.'"

    And that's the gist of it. The amount of new feature set implementation is insane. I feel like with Madden and other EA Sports franchises, you'll see tiny little strides each year. But with UFC3, you're getting, honestly, a whole new game. It's one of the most substantial sequel improvements in any medium since Terminator 2 (in my opinion). You guys only know about the big things, like the moving while striking and the moving head movement. But there are so many thoughtful layers that have been added. Things you'd only add if you as a developer had passion for what you were doing. Things that might go unnoticed by casual players but that add so much to the game from a depth perspective. Excited for you guys to get to play.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Rewatching that video on the previous page, not sure I like the idea of uppercuts being done by having to press both buttons together. Sounds a bit awkward but I do like the sound of the movement and throwing punches combined and the removal of the parry is no big deal. Removing parry means they also have changed a lot of the perks or whatever they were called that you added to your fighter in UT. There wont be ones where you add x seconds to the parry window if you have it enabled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Lead gameplay dev Geoff Harrower has been answering questions on operation sports forums, some good info here.

    The thing is, leg kicks can be used two different ways.

    One is throwing them out there to try and widdle down long term health of the legs, at the risk of a check.

    The other is to use them to cripple overly aggressive fighters who lunge or sway while moving forward, or throw power shots moving forwards. Catch them as they are about to put their weight on the lead leg and it does way more damage, and interrupts the attack.

    It's that second case I worry about, because a lot of people are going to be overly aggressive.

    Someone who gets good at timing leg kicks against predictable, aggressive opponents will absolutely demolish them.

    Leg health doesn't regenerate, so once you take big damage, you really have to adapt your style to survive.

    All this stuff is exactly the way I want it, I am just curious to see if the player base is sophisticated enough to handle this, or if the masses are able to figure out the leg offence game, but not the defensive game and all fights become these weird leg kicking battles.

    I don't know what's going to happen.

    But it's not going to be like anything you've experienced before, that I can guarantee.

    O'ing people is fun, aggression is fun, and this game will make that experience a lot more exciting than what UFC 2 offered.

    To them it might even feel like KO mode but with the full game.

    It won't be until you get to a higher level of skill that you start to see fights lasting longer or going the distance.

    Those will be the technical battles that might bore casuals, but that's what players of that skill level want.

    If it plays out that way we'll hit that sweet spot we've never quite managed.

    I'm excited to see if it works.

    I'm sure someone will ruin it with some exploit that we'll have to fix, but right now, playing the game among the dev team, no one has found an exploit yet and the game is beautiful to play.


    I can't remember if I posted this before, but from full stamina full health, if one fighter spams two leg kicks in a row that both get checked, they get a health event.

    If they continue and spam two more while in the health event, there will be a leg KD



    I have a question for you that you haven't been asked yet... with the new vulnerability system will you be able to knockout/hurt your opponent while you're in a head/body health event?

    It was possible in UFC1. Impossible in UFC2. Is it coming back?

    Still possible.

    Lastly he said you can defend against kicks by checking leg kicks, staying out of range or interrupt the kicks with straight jabs. Saying that, of you misstime a jab interrupt, you will get this scenario.

    rory-markham_brodie-farber.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Love when I see uouve updated this thread. Fair play for info.

    This game sounds like it's going to be a big improvement. And I absolutely love the last one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    New trailer leaked this morning and taken down but not before someone downloaded it.

    Some old footage in slo mo to show off the new tech but some new stuff as well. Don's movement is spot on.

    Edit, adding proper video

    https://twitter.com/EASPORTSUFC/status/929030922304815105


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Beta registration closes tonight in case anyone hasn't signed up yet. Best of luck!

    https://www.easports.com/ufc/beta-logged-out


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  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭RebelSoul


    Cheers for all the updates Zero. I signed up, hopefully someone on here gets in and can stream some game play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Confirmed controls so far. These look fair complex but I'd day once you get the hang of them, they will work really well.

    L1/LB technique modifier
    L2/LT body modifier
    R1/RB signature modifier (or you could think of it as another technique modifier)
    R2/RT high block/elbow/knee modifier
    R2/RT + L2/LT low block
    L2/LT + right sticks towards/away for takedowns
    L2/LT + right sticks up/down for clinch attempts
    Face buttons - jab , straight , leg kicks
    L1/LB+ face buttons - Hooks - Head kicks
    Square+X/triangle+O - Uppercuts
    R2+face buttons = knees or elbows
    Double flick and hold forward - Sprint
    Left stick - footwork/movement
    Right stick - head movement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Right stick - head movement

    I can never read the words "head movement" again without seeing and hearing Edmond screaming. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Paully D wrote: »
    I can never read the words "head movement" again without seeing and hearing Edmond screaming. :pac:

    First thing I thought of too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    His ground game break down was brilliant for UFC 2, this should be good. Expected some time next week.

    https://twitter.com/GeoffHarrower/status/931039280016719873


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  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭RebelSoul


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    His ground game break down was brilliant for UFC 2, this should be good. Expected some time next week.

    https://twitter.com/GeoffHarrower/status/931039280016719873

    When do you expect him to release that? Same time as the game release?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    RebelSoul wrote: »
    When do you expect him to release that? Same time as the game release?

    He said on Twitter it should be released next week. He wants it out before the beta so people can understand what they're doing instead of not understanding it basically 'I'm losing, system must suck'. He said there will be way more KO's with this system until people start defending properly and he's sure people will say it's OP'd because they don't understand it.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Can't wait for this at this stage..not sure about some of the controls like uppercuts especially but I figure once we get used to it then it will feel natural. Love how they have really made it technical now and not just button bashing or spamming punches when in range.



    People that dont learn how to play are going to get KO'd and those that love stand up will be rewarded for being good at it and mastering it this time. I much prefer the stand up game but used to hate where I would get rocked out of nowhere even though I was picking a guy apart or I would seemingly take as much damage as my opponent even though I had been punching and avoiding theirs for the whole round.


    When is the beta due to drop do we know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Beta is starting November 27 and running through December 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    New striking system Dev breakdown will be out Thursday.

    Also...

    https://twitter.com/EASPORTSUFC/status/933071282400247810


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Some new info and screens for Ultimate Team

    https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/ufc/ufc-3/ultimate-team/new-features


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Haha they gave McGregor higher stamina than Joanna! What crackhead came up with those ratings? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Haha they gave McGregor higher stamina than Joanna! What crackhead came up with those ratings? :pac:

    I think these champ UT cards are more than meets the eye. Conor has higher grappling than striking and they are all in different weight divisions. I get UT has a limited amount of weight divisions but playing Anderson in the heavyweight div is just gonna be weird.

    Geoff put on twitter the new striking system all stemmed from a meeting he had with Robin Black 2 years ago, class!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Gameplay videos hitting the web. Combos look class.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    That looks unbelievable, like an MMA version of Fight Night Champion.

    No sign of a beta code yet, isn’t it today they go out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Yupp codes being sent out in waves today good luck lads! I think that glass breaking effect is an after edit by the youtuber and not actually in the game thank ****.

    Conor looks OP as **** :pac: at least he actually looks like him this time though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭14murphy


    I'm not entirely convinced. The stand up still looks somewhat robotic and those clunky animations are still present. Saying that its still the beta and I know it ain't the finished product. One thing thats very noticeable is the vulnerability. Angling your body to pull a leg back to kick and pop your face is completely un protected. That can be seen at 2;25 of that McGregor video posted above. Ground game looks the exact same too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The main thing I notice so far is everyone seems to have stamina for days, can throw some amount of punches with 1 bar and it recovers very quickly. The output of strikes is too high atm, unrealistic but will be more fun to casual fighting fans I suppose. Not sure if it's because of them mostly being jabs thrown and Dev said jabs use very little stamina.

    Also, these 'content creators' shouldn't be allowed add effects and music to the videos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Lead gameplay dev not happy with the videos saying it was a mistake to let the gamechangers release videos before the devs could release one showing how gameplay can/should look in a proper fight.

    He was asked "So why are your gamechangers playing like noobs? Doesn't seem fruitful to make the game look like this as a first impression."

    Dev:
    That's a great question.

    I wish we had put out a gameplay video first.

    These are frustrating to watch.

    For everyone worried, pay attention closely.

    Way more stamina is being used than UFC 2. Way more damage is being dealt than UFC 2.

    These guys are rocking and knocking each other down all over the place.

    Isn't that what you want when people play like this?

    How would you beat someone who plays like this?

    Go aggressive right back at them?

    Or play a more realistic style where you respect the increased damage and stamina?

    Let's see what fights with top rank players look like come Friday.

    Another vid


    Also a cpu vs cpu vid:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Word is that beta keys will be sent out from 6pm our time onwards. They’re probably randomly allocated but I’ll still be pretty pissed if I don’t get one after the hundreds of hours I sunk into UFC 2. The top 20 in Live Events should automatically get one. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Plus you came 2nd in the boards tourney that time. If that doesn't get you 1, I don't know what will.

    *Yes, I will go absolutely crazy if you get a key and I don't :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    If one of us gets one and the other doesn’t, the fairest thing to do is another 5 round Punk war to decide who gets the key. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    martyos121 wrote: »
    If one of us gets one and the other doesn’t, the fairest thing to do is another 5 round Punk war to decide who gets the key. :pac:

    Only fair man. I'll do up the poster.

    Punk Vs Punk 2, this time...it will be as, if not more, **** than last time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Only fair man. I'll do up the poster.

    Punk Vs Punk 2, this time...it will be as, if not more, **** than last time yet still do bigger numbers than a Mighty Mouse card.

    Fixed that for ya. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I got a coooooooooddddeeeee

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    The MMA gods have looked kindly upon me this evening...

    goldenticket.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    I got a coooooooooddddeeeee

    :D

    Me too :D Not finished work until 8 though :D I have 2 codes, one saying "your code" and one saying "share this code with friends"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Yeah I also have a spare, first regular to ask for it gets it, gotta look after the loyal fanbase first and foremost. :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Got one too, and have a spare if any regulars missed out


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  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭RebelSoul


    Same here, got the code and spare. Anyone know how long we'll have the beta for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 356 ✭✭RebelSoul


    The missus and her sister are watching Gossip Girl. This hurts more than losing to CM Punk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Carroller


    If there are any spares going around I would love one. Play the UFC games religiously although follow the mma forumI may not be a regular poster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    RebelSoul wrote: »
    The missus and her sister are watching Gossip Girl. This hurts more than losing to CM Punk.

    I dunno man, Mickey was lucky, that punch would have ended is life.

    SJhFC51.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Carroller wrote: »
    If there are any spares going around I would love one. Play the UFC games religiously although follow the mma forumI may not be a regular poster

    Do you have Xbox or PS4? If you have a ps, I will pm you my spare.


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