Corona virus and social protection

MonkeySpanner · 21-10-2020 1:28pm

Anyone know if they take casual workers benefit into account when determining your weekly pay? I worked full time and over the €400 a week last year but was put on a 3 day week for a stage with two days claiming from the social welfare.

Not sure I'd average out €400 a week with just my wages divided over the year but would taking into account the casual workers.

Dempo1 · 21-10-2020 1:31pm

MonkeySpanner wrote: »

Anyone know if they take casual workers benefit into account when determining your weekly pay? I worked full time and over the €400 a week last year but was put on a 3 day week for a stage with two days claiming from the social welfare.

Not sure I'd average out €400 a week with just my wages divided over the year but would taking into account the casual workers.

My understanding is no, they only work off payroll information submitted to Revenue who do the sums as such. If you had access to all your payslips you coukd work it out, keep in mind it's gross average earnings for 2019 and or Jan/Feb 2020

bigboss1986 · 21-10-2020 2:55pm

My wife applied for PUP online on monday as they had to clos due ti Level 5.Will she get any email that claim was succesful or should she send paper for to be on safe sid?.Most likely she wont be back to work till Jan/21

Dempo1 · 21-10-2020 3:04pm

bigboss1986 wrote: »

My wife applied for PUP online on monday as they had to clos due ti Level 5.Will she get any email that claim was succesful or should she send paper for to be on safe sid?.Most likely she wont be back to work till Jan/21

Hi, she won't unfortunately, history has shown there's no notification for approval but are for declines or additional info requests. In essence no news good news. If she checks status on claim it also wonr show anything as the portal very slow to be updated. I'd be confident she should get payment next Tuesday assuming she's met criteria etc.

I would not send anything unless requested, good luck

Hoboo · 21-10-2020 7:03pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hi, she won't unfortunately, history has shown there's no notification for approval but are for declines or additional info requests. In essence no news good news. If she checks status on claim it also wonr show anything as the portal very slow to be updated. I'd be confident she should get payment next Tuesday assuming she's met criteria etc.

I would not send anything unless requested, good luck

My sisters in the same boat, hairdresser, so applied again. She was on PUP the first time around.

Do you know if they keep bank details? She wasn't asked for them when applying this time, juts employer details and her details.

Dempo1 · 21-10-2020 7:10pm

Hoboo wrote: »

My sisters in the same boat, hairdresser, so applied again. She was on PUP the first time around.

Do you know if they keep bank details? She wasn't asked for them when applying this time, juts employer details and her details.

Curious about the bank details request? This was always required unless you had a previous benefit and they had your bank details on record , but even then you had to confirm details with numbers hidden for security reasons, I've heard they no longer allow payments in post office so maybe that's the reason.

Hoboo · 21-10-2020 7:22pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Curious about the bank details request? This was always required unless you had a previous benefit and they had your bank details on record , but even then you had to confirm details with numbers hidden for security reasons, I've heard they no longer allow payments in post office so maybe that's the reason.

She was receiving the PUP into her account during the last lockdown so I'm guessing they'd still have them on file....don't like guessing though.

Dempo1 · 21-10-2020 7:25pm

Hoboo wrote: »

She was receiving the PUP into her account during the last lockdown so I'm guessing they'd still have them on file....don't like guessing though.

She'll be fine, Bank Details saved on file and within the mywelfare account

RocketRaccoon · 21-10-2020 8:57pm

Hoboo wrote: »

My sisters in the same boat, hairdresser, so applied again. She was on PUP the first time around.

Do you know if they keep bank details? She wasn't asked for them when applying this time, juts employer details and her details.

I did have to supply my bank details again while reapplying.

RocketRaccoon · 21-10-2020 8:59pm

bigboss1986 wrote: »

My wife applied for PUP online on monday as they had to clos due ti Level 5.Will she get any email that claim was succesful or should she send paper for to be on safe sid?.Most likely she wont be back to work till Jan/21

I received payment yesterday, 11 days after applying. My welfare account is still not showing my application was successful, just keep an eye on the bank account next Tuesday morning would be my advice.

Dempo1 · 21-10-2020 9:07pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

I received payment yesterday, 11 days after applying. My welfare account is still not showing my application was successful, just keep an eye on the bank account next Tuesday morning would be my advice.

And good advice it is

hblock21 · 21-10-2020 9:44pm

Is there a contact number for PUP?
I applied first week of September but was rejected due to having no pris contributions (which is total nonsense). I sent an email for it to be reviewed but have heard nothing. It must be about 7 weeks now...

Dempo1 · 21-10-2020 9:49pm

hblock21 wrote: »

Is there a contact number for PUP?
I applied first week of September but was rejected due to having no pris contributions (which is total nonsense). I sent an email for it to be reviewed but have heard nothing. It must be about 7 weeks now...

1890800024 is the PUP help line, just re PRSI, you know they work off 2019 and or Jan/Feb 2020 earnings?

edwardkiley · 22-10-2020 1:15pm

hey guys.
just wondering are college students who were doing part time work and lost their work just now cause of the new lockdown entitled to the PUP?

Dempo1 · 22-10-2020 1:21pm

edwardkiley wrote: »

hey guys.
just wondering are college students who were doing part time work and lost their work just now cause of the new lockdown entitled to the PUP?

Hi, the whole question relating to students entitlement has not been dealt with and as such they continue to be entitled, however important note the criteria re earnings may have a baring.

Basically, earnings are assessed from 2019 and or jan/Feb 2020 so you'll need to have earnings that can be verified, in addition the payment amount is determined on the amount you earned then.

Normally full time students not entitled to a SW payment but as explained, students were and appear to be still entitled to claim pup based on the loss of their Job, either full or part time.

See rules here

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/#how-to-qualify

edwardkiley · 22-10-2020 1:30pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hi, the whole question relating to students entitlement has not been dealt with and as such they continue to be entitled, however important note the criteria re earnings may have a baring.

Basically, earnings are assessed from 2019 and or jan/Feb 2020 so you'll need to have earnings that can be verified, in addition the payment amount is determined on the amount you earned then.

Normally full time students not entitled to a SW payment but as explained, students were and appear to be still entitled to claim pup based on the loss of their Job, either full or part time.

See rules here

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/#how-to-qualify

thanks for the info

Dempo1 · 22-10-2020 1:32pm

edwardkiley wrote: »

thanks for the info

No problem, Good Luck

mystic · 22-10-2020 9:26pm

hblock21 wrote: »

Is there a contact number for PUP?
I applied first week of September but was rejected due to having no pris contributions (which is total nonsense). I sent an email for it to be reviewed but have heard nothing. It must be about 7 weeks now...

Send an email to pupearningscheck@welfare.ie.

hblock21 · 23-10-2020 2:49pm

mystic wrote: »

Send an email to pupearningscheck@welfare.ie.

They actually got back to me today before I called and they have put me on PUP.
Will it be back-dated to September? Thats when I initially applied....

Dempo1 · 23-10-2020 3:01pm

hblock21 wrote: »

They actually got back to me today before I called and they have put me on PUP.
Will it be back-dated to September? Thats when I initially applied....

Good news

, it should be applicable from date of application but I just want to caution you. There's been a number of issues regarding back payments, I'm hoping it's been resolved and fingers crossed your payment will reflect this. Not sure if they gave you a day for payment but it's normally Tuesday by bank transfer.

23-10-2020 8:14pm

How were you contacted hblock21. I got an email this evening with the usual email stating that they have no record of recent prsi. My class s contribution is showing on the digital request. I have applied four times since August when my work finished. I have sent form 11 emailed the rerate team and have sent all the written documentation to the covid appeals team. It is bordering on ridiculous now. I may go down the ombudsman route as some previous posters seem to have success this route.

Dempo1 · 23-10-2020 8:20pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How were you contacted hblock21. I got an email this evening with the usual email stating that they have no record of recent prsi. My class s contribution is showing on the digital request. I have applied four times since August when my work finished. I have sent form 11 emailed the rerate team and have sent all the written documentation to the covid appeals team. It is bordering on ridiculous now. I may go down the ombudsman route as some previous posters seem to have success this route.

Is yours a self employed pup issue? I think your issue not the same, hblock21 I think is employee not self employed, you've seen on self employed thread the issues self employed are having with PUP rerate and the ombudsman is likely to be your only recourse at this stage, disgraceful as it is.

jrosen · 23-10-2020 8:21pm

hblock21 wrote: »

They actually got back to me today before I called and they have put me on PUP.
Will it be back-dated to September? Thats when I initially applied....

It may not be. None of my work colleagues were.

23-10-2020 8:27pm

Yes mine is self employed. I probably should have posted there. thanks.

Dempo1 · 23-10-2020 8:27pm

jrosen wrote: »

It may not be. None of my work colleagues were.

Yes it's possible as back payments issues a mess

Dempo1 · 23-10-2020 8:30pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes mine is self employed. I probably should have posted there. thanks.

No problem, I didn't want you getting confused as Ive seen the stress from the self employed thread, I saw one person had a result from ombudsman, look back on posts, worth a try, just crazy carry on, good luck

RocketRaccoon · 24-10-2020 10:02am

Payment of €350 received today due to the bank holiday Monday I assume.

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 10:05am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Payment of €350 received today due to the bank holiday Monday I assume.

Good news

, payments lodged to nominated bank account on Tuesday mornings. I don't think bank holiday affects payment date as its a Tuesday

Curlysue76 · 24-10-2020 10:58am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Payment of €350 received today due to the bank holiday Monday I assume.

I got mine as well into Ptsb account, my daughter hasn't received hers into Ulster Bank acc yet.

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 11:00am

Curlysue76 wrote: »

I got mine as well into Ptsb account, my daughter hasn't received hers into Ulster Bank acc yet.

Unusual lodgement at weekends albeit I've seen delayed applicants getting payment on Fridays, Saturdays. Normally payment is Tuesday.

Re your daughter, when did she apply?

Lashes28 · 24-10-2020 11:21am

I applied the day they made the announcement. Payment received this morning 250 wasn't expecting that,thought I'd get 203? Bank of Ireland if that makes any difference.

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 11:24am

Lashes28 wrote: »

I applied the day they made the announcement. Payment received this morning 250 wasn't expecting that,thought I'd get 203? Bank of Ireland if that makes any difference.

I'm thinking because of the large numbers applying, they've probably just issued payments as quickly as possible. Re the €250, it's based on earnings from 2019 €+& or Jan/Feb 2020. Good you got sorted quickly

Curlysue76 · 24-10-2020 11:26am

Dempo1 wrote: »

Unusual lodgement at weekends albeit I've seen delayed applicants getting payment on Fridays, Saturdays. Normally payment is Tuesday.

Re your daughter, when did she apply?

She has gotten it the past two weeks so I'm sure it's on it's way, just wasn't expecting mine today and was wondering if anyone else had received theirs into UB.

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 11:28am

Curlysue76 wrote: »

She has gotten it the past two weeks so I'm sure it's on it's way, just wasn't expecting mine today and was wondering if anyone else had received theirs into UB.

Ah I see, yes she's on the system so her payment date should remain normal. I think new claims, delayed claims, appeals etc are paid as soon as approved and then go onto the standard weekly payment date which is normally Tuesdays, if that make sense, she'll be fine

Curlysue76 · 24-10-2020 11:34am

Dempo1 wrote: »

Ah I see, yes she's on the system so her payment date should remain normal. I think new claims, delayed claims, appeals etc are paid as soon as approved and then go onto the standard weekly payment date which is normally Tuesdays, if that make sense, she'll be fine

Thanks, she wasn't expecting it at all, she's a full time student but has been working part time continuously for past two years.

md323 · 24-10-2020 11:39am

Curlysue76 wrote: »

She has gotten it the past two weeks so I'm sure it's on it's way, just wasn't expecting mine today and was wondering if anyone else had received theirs into UB.

Im Ulster bank. Its usually paid in on Monday evenings about half 9.

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 11:43am

Curlysue76 wrote: »

Thanks, she wasn't expecting it at all, she's a full time student but has been working part time continuously for past two years.

There's been alot of discussion about students but yet they continue to be entitled as long as they have earnings from 2019 and or jan/Feb 2020. Its only fair so happy for her, take care

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 11:46am

md323 wrote: »

Im Ulster bank. Its usually paid in on Monday evenings about half 9.

Yes, payment file from SW is normally sent to banks Thursday evening, it does depend on institutions and when they process payments into accounts, when I was on it, my KBC account was credited Tuesday morning, other banks Monday very late, into Tuesday etc

hblock21 · 24-10-2020 12:02pm

Deleted User wrote: »

How were you contacted hblock21. I got an email this evening with the usual email stating that they have no record of recent prsi. My class s contribution is showing on the digital request. I have applied four times since August when my work finished. I have sent form 11 emailed the rerate team and have sent all the written documentation to the covid appeals team. It is bordering on ridiculous now. I may go down the ombudsman route as some previous posters seem to have success this route.

By email. About 7 weeks after my initial email.
You just have to play the waiting game unfortunately.
Just hope it will be back dated.
I don't see why it should not be - it's not my fault they made a mistake with my initial application.....

SleetAndSnow · 24-10-2020 12:20pm

Was paid into my account today too, AIB. Didn't expect that today!

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 12:22pm

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Was paid into my account today too, AIB. Didn't expect that today!

Hi there, just curious, was yours a new claim as in recently or existing claim? I'm wondering is the bank holiday weekend causing dates to change?

SleetAndSnow · 24-10-2020 12:24pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hi there, just curious, was yours a new claim as in recently or existing claim? I'm wondering is the bank holiday weekend causing dates to change?

Existing, must be due to the bank holiday!

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 12:26pm

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Existing, must be due to the bank holiday!

I thought I recognised you

Yes must be, I know some banks like KBC don't do electronic transfers on weekends, so I guess it depends on the bank your with.

Curlysue76 · 24-10-2020 12:52pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hi there, just curious, was yours a new claim as in recently or existing claim? I'm wondering is the bank holiday weekend causing dates to change?

This is my third payment, since level 3, paid today, must be due to BH. €350 payment restored from this payment as well,

sinkadinka · 24-10-2020 12:53pm

Anyone know what (if any)benefits a part-time worker who worked 3 mornings a week but is now going to be cut to 1 morning a week can claim ?

Curlysue76 · 24-10-2020 12:54pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

Hi there, just curious, was yours a new claim as in recently or existing claim? I'm wondering is the bank holiday weekend causing dates to change?

This is my third payment, since level 3, paid today, must be due to BH. €350 payment restored from this payment as well,

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 12:57pm

Curlysue76 wrote: »

This is my third payment, since level 3, paid today, must be due to BH. €350 payment restored from this payment as well,

Good to hear restored, yes, looking like it's the Bank Holiday alright

md323 · 24-10-2020 1:02pm

Ulster Bank here, just recieved it. Restored to €350 aswell

Dempo1 · 24-10-2020 1:05pm

md323 wrote: »

Ulster Bank here, just recieved it. Restored to €350 aswell

Curious, some with Ulster Bank getting it today, some not??,

Anyone with KBC?

corsav6 · 24-10-2020 6:27pm

Ulster Bank and restored to €350, only applied Tuesday evening so happy to get it so soon.

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