Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

John of Patk. R [xx] and Mary Richardson
Sp. Jno. Murphy and Mary Byrnes

Mick Tator wrote: »

John of Patk. R [xx] and Mary Richardson
Sp. Jno. Murphy and Mary Byrnes

Ah, that looks like it, thanks. It's the wrong person so, back to the drawing board.

Yes that's it alright and an Owen Quail died there on 16th Dec 1893

Help please with this one
Tallanstown Parish 5th June 1873
Bottom left of page 96

Sponsors are Thaddeus Mullen and Cath Mullen

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632622#page/96/mode/1up

Thanks a million for this. Good thinking on going to the civil record.

disease
of liver
for ? years
certified

BowWow wrote: »

God! I wish all Baptism records were that clear and had that level of information...

And two centuries old, puts other scribes to shame.
Of course it may be a later transcript.

This is my take -

Marg.a ex Gulielmo Gubbins & Marg.a Maddin. Patrini sunt Johannes Maddin Catherina Gubbin.

Margaret of William Gubbins & Margaret Maddin. Godparents are John Maddin Catherine Gubbin.

I think the the two ‘stacked’ words in the margin are a note – the top one is Sua (her), cannot make out the one underneath it. (Logically it should be 'amita' - aunt.)* The Latin words in the brackets are unclear – the first looks like ‘Nunc’ (now) [xxxx] Presby (? presbiter =priest) and the last two words below the loops look like a name – Jno. McGinnis.
I wonder was it the final ceremony of a priest before leaving the parish or of a clerk who was the writer of the entries?

*edit - I wonder is it Xtina, abbreviation of amitina, cousin (female)?

Yes, it's halfway between Swords and Donabate. The family moved around a good bit being in Dunbro, Finglas in the 1901 census and Turnapin Little, Drumcondra Rural in the 1911 census

Town Road?
Tuam Road?

stutoken wrote: »

Looking help with the latin note attached to entry 853 - bridget of hugh mcdonnell -

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633333#page/34/mode/1up

put a few words in to google translate and looks like it could be something to do with mother gave birth before marriage.

Can anyone confirm?

Thanks

Virginia B's translation is correct. However the 'conditional baptism' has nothing to do with the marriage. In the RC Church a baptism can be performed only once, and if there is a doubt that a person (not necessarily a child) had been baptised previously the baptism would be performed 'conditionally' i. e. "In the event that you have not been baptised I now baptise you....etc" In this case there was doubt that the child might have been baptised - - I'd hazard a guess that it was a difficult birth and that the midwife performed a baptism ceremony. That did happen if there was a possibility of the newborn not surviving and there was a fear of the infant ending up in 'Limbo'. There were few prying eyes inspecting the Registers, they inevitably were unseen and prior to being put on-line (much against the wishes of many PPs) it was a nightmare to get to see them, as the oldies here can testify!