LastPass due to restrict free users to One Device

#1 · 16-02-2021 4:03pm #1

Hi all,

I just received an email from lastpass stating that from the 15th of March, they will be restricting free users to a one device pass... so either desktop or mobile

Link

Guess having unlimited access was too good an option to last this long.

Anyone on a premium plan...? Afaik you can pay up front on a yearly basis...

16-02-2021 4:05pm

Great. Now to find how to export all to another free app.

begbysback · 16-02-2021 4:06pm

Horrific piece of software, even for free

Alun · 16-02-2021 4:09pm

Had nothing but problems with LastPass, and changed to BitDefender. You can export your vault from LastPass and import to BitDefender no problem.

duffman3833 · 16-02-2021 4:12pm

yea its not great at getting the passwords when on the sites themselves and you end up having to go into the app, copy password and go back to webpage. When it works its great but not the best all the same. Let us know if anyone has alternative?

16-02-2021 4:14pm

Will need to look at something then. When I was first setting up one of these I didn't like the look of any of them apart from LastPass so hopefully that's changed now.

What are the options then? Ideally I'd have multi device including autofill support from biometrics on mobile (iOS) the way Lastpass does, a Windows Chrome plugin, and be able to import the LastPass database to it. Too good to be true?

jester77 · 16-02-2021 4:18pm

BitWarden, open source and you can host your own

16-02-2021 4:19pm

I use Bitwarden and a yubikey

16-02-2021 4:20pm

jester77 wrote: »

BitWarden, open source and you can host your own

Definitely want to avoid anything like that if I can. No interest in trying to host and protect information that kind of information.

ED E · 16-02-2021 10:12pm

Keepass. Use whatever sync service you like, they just get an encrypted blob to store.

observanto · 17-02-2021 3:30am

Self-hosting is only an option. Bitwarden is one of the most secure password managers.

Laviski · 17-02-2021 10:26am

I did pay for premium long time ago then they made changes to free that made it pointless to pay for premium. Couldn't understand their thinking.

Happy to start paying again next month. I found it a very good tool and worth it for piece of mind. Not getting the problems some mentioned here.

I would also do a shout out for keepass, do use it for work as well. But prefer lastpass than storing key onto unencrypted cloud platform. Also the wonder if the cloud tool correctly synced current version.

17-02-2021 10:35am

Downloaded and had a try of a few yesterday evening but I think I'll end up paying for LastPass.

listermint · 17-02-2021 10:38am

Had not seen this email, crap. I'd be lost without it tbh

dulpit · 17-02-2021 2:55pm

I've just downloaded Bitwarden, so far so good. Very easy to import from Lastpass. Will play with it for next few days and see.

One minor point I've noticed - seems that syncing between devices is a little slow (e.g. I added a password to my vault on web, had to manually sync my browser extension a minute later for it to appear). Might be teething issue on my part though.

observanto · 17-02-2021 8:35pm

It is truth that Bitwarden syncing is a little slow, however on a day to day basis you rarely need immediate syncing.

Bitwarden has very vibrant community on Reddit and moving from Lastpass to BW is the main topic today.

dulpit · 17-02-2021 9:25pm

I have a few awkward sites for work where very similar domains have loads of test accounts/etc. Using bitwarden works very easy, no issues at all.

Haven't had opportunity to use it on phone yet, so will see on that front.

EoinMcLovin · 17-02-2021 10:39pm

moved to bitwarden myself and went with the premium for the year, was around €8.50. Used to use lastpass authenticator for most of my 2 form factor code generation but with bitwarden, I can add it to the vault item. when using via mobile app, it will copy the generated code to your clipboard so no more having to open separate app to get code

PhilOssophy · 18-02-2021 9:53am

I just use pa55w0rd for everything, if I need an exclamation mark at the end I will add it in.
No need for a password vault, keep it simple.

dulpit · 18-02-2021 10:47am

PhilOssophy wrote: »

I just use pa55w0rd for everything, if I need an exclamation mark at the end I will add it in.
No need for a password vault, keep it simple.

(although I assume trolling)

ACitizenErased · 18-02-2021 7:07pm

Just switched to BitWarden, all exported from lastpass and imported to BitWarden in less than 5 mins. BitWarden supports iOS autofill too so seamless experience.

18-02-2021 7:13pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Just switched to BitWarden, all exported from lastpass and imported to BitWarden in less than 5 mins. BitWarden supports iOS autofill too so seamless experience.

How much is it?

cefh17 · 18-02-2021 7:14pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

How much is it?

Free with option for a premium, opted for the basic one myself

dulpit · 18-02-2021 8:47pm

Update on Bitwarden after another day: very impressed. Seems very similar in features to LastPass, less crashy on android for me too (lastpass had a tendency to forget that it was allowed fill forms).

The only thing I miss, and it's just because of habit, is the little lastpass icon to click on in the login box itself on screen. But it's just a matter of clicking the extension in top right.

cefh17 · 18-02-2021 9:02pm

dulpit wrote: »

Update on Bitwarden after another day: very impressed. Seems very similar in features to LastPass, less crashy on android for me too (lastpass had a tendency to forget that it was allowed fill forms).

The only thing I miss, and it's just because of habit, is the little lastpass icon to click on in the login box itself on screen. But it's just a matter of clicking the extension in top right.

You can set up auto-fill in settings or failing that, you can right click the entry field and bitwarden appears on the drop down menu

EoinMcLovin · 18-02-2021 9:32pm

cefh17 wrote: »

You can set up auto-fill in settings or failing that, you can right click the entry field and bitwarden appears on the drop down menu

Yeah on android when login fields show up you will get popup showing details which auto fill. If you have premium and add the 2fa to a login, when you enter the username and password the generated code will be in your clipboard

banie01 · 18-02-2021 9:38pm

I am a longtime lastpass user and advocate.
Had a paid account for years until work pulled that perk

I switched to Bitwarden a couple of days ago, and it was a very straightforward experience.
I opted to export from lastpass via .CSV then imported that to Bitwarden.

Installed the chrome extension and the android app.
Delighted with the performance tbh.
Even if I choose to go premium it's very cheap.

Had an issue with lastpass since android 11 update whereby the autofill kept having an error that required app to be disabled and renewables in services.

Bitwarden, no issue at all works flawlessly.

TBH I should have switched years ago!

18-02-2021 9:49pm

dulpit wrote: »

Update on Bitwarden after another day: very impressed. Seems very similar in features to LastPass, less crashy on android for me too (lastpass had a tendency to forget that it was allowed fill forms).

The only thing I miss, and it's just because of habit, is the little lastpass icon to click on in the login box itself on screen. But it's just a matter of clicking the extension in top right.

Does it fill in app passwords on your phone like lastpass

Amirani · 18-02-2021 9:52pm

Switched from LastPass to Bitwarden last night too. Happy with the experience so far. Had been wondering if Reddit was a swarm of advertising, but it's actually a better alternative I think.

Wheety · 18-02-2021 10:49pm

I'm going to give Bitwarden a go too.

I did pay for LastPass premium a few years ago. Was only €12 for a year then. I think LogMeIn bought LastPass and have been increasing the cost every year since. Now they've decided too many were using the free version.

observanto · 18-02-2021 11:00pm

lifehacker.com: Bitwarden Is Now the Best Free Alternative to LastPass

Inquitus · 19-02-2021 1:13am

observanto wrote: »

lifehacker.com: Bitwarden Is Now the Best Free Alternative to LastPass

That's not a clear recommendation though, it says its the best free version but not if its comparable.

dulpit · 19-02-2021 9:42am

Inquitus wrote: »

That's not a clear recommendation though, it says its the best free version but not if its comparable.

So far so good for me. Every function I used onlastpass is present in bitwarden. Like I mentioned earlier, biggest issue I spotted was the slowness of sync between devices, but I don't change passwords that often and then need to use a new device, so that's not a real issue.

19-02-2021 9:43am

dulpit wrote: »

So far so good for me. Every function I used onlastpass is present in bitwarden. Like I mentioned earlier, biggest issue I spotted was the slowness of sync between devices, but I don't change passwords that often and then need to use a new device, so that's not a real issue.

Does it fill in app passwords on your phone like lastpass?

GhostyMcGhost · 19-02-2021 9:50am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Does it fill in app passwords on your phone like lastpass?

Sure does

dulpit · 19-02-2021 11:11am

Deleted User wrote: »

Does it fill in app passwords on your phone like lastpass?

Can confirm.

cromelex · 19-02-2021 11:59am

Moved to Bitwarden as well, ended up paying the 10 USD for the premium so I can use my Yubikey and the TOTP functionality. Worth it, no issues so far on either Windows or Android. And I can even use my laptop's fingerprint reader to unlock the vault!

listermint · 23-02-2021 1:21pm

moved over today and got premium, only thing that is a pain is the prefill in chrome. you have to right click and 2 more clicks for autofill. where as on last pass it had either intelligent fill or there was a lastpass icon in the fields just 1 click.

That needs to be sorted

AndrewJRenko · 23-02-2021 1:36pm

Any tips for what will work best on a work laptop with no admin rights? The Last pass Chrome extension is installed, though further extensions are blocked. What would give best usability for prefilling usernames and passwords without any install?

cromelex · 23-02-2021 2:14pm

listermint wrote: »

moved over today and got premium, only thing that is a pain is the prefill in chrome. you have to right click and 2 more clicks for autofill. where as on last pass it had either intelligent fill or there was a lastpass icon in the fields just 1 click.

That needs to be sorted

There is a setting, "Enable Autofill on Page load", that will autopopulate it every time.

observanto · 23-02-2021 2:17pm

listermint wrote: »

moved over today and got premium, only thing that is a pain is the prefill in chrome. you have to right click and 2 more clicks for autofill. where as on last pass it had either intelligent fill or there was a lastpass icon in the fields just 1 click.

That needs to be sorted

You can try the auto-fill option: Settings / OTHER / Options / Enable Auto-fill On Page Load
However in my opinion the auto-fill doesn't work very well and I don't use it.

Alun · 23-02-2021 2:19pm

observanto wrote: »

You can try the auto-fill option: Settings / OTHER / Options / Enable Auto-fill On Page Load
However in my opinion the auto-fill doesn't work very well and I don't use it.

Strange, I find it works quite well, as well as LastPass did in any case. I find it odd though that it's not enabled by default.

observanto · 23-02-2021 2:29pm

Alun wrote: »

Strange, I find it works quite well, as well as LastPass did in any case. I find it odd though that it's not enabled by default.

In a way it works to well. I don't like that after I log out and online services end up on the login page BW populates credentials again.

SmallTeapot · 23-02-2021 3:24pm

Op here. I use Lastpass on iOS (iPad & phone), google chrome (windows) and safari (Mac)...

For any users who have moved to Bitwarden, what has your experience been like if you use all and or any or these platforms?
How much is an annual premium sub for Bitwarden?

I really love the Lastpass interface.... such a pity they have moved in this direction, but i guess that's business

EoinMcLovin · 23-02-2021 3:42pm

SmallTeapot wrote: »

Op here. I use Lastpass on iOS (iPad & phone), google chrome (windows) and safari (Mac)...

For any users who have moved to Bitwarden, what has your experience been like if you use all and or any or these platforms?
How much is an annual premium sub for Bitwarden?

I really love the Lastpass interface.... such a pity they have moved in this direction, but i guess that's business

Premium sub is 10 dollars for the year

StemCell · 25-02-2021 6:31pm

Long time user of LastPass, even paid for premium at one stage but yeah, their business decision to offer for free a few years ago what people were paying for has killed their market share now.

I exported my LastPass vault to CSV and after a few retries to import my passwords and secure notes, BitWarden is now my primary password manager.
Works in home laptop, work laptop and Android phones.

One thing I had to tweak on every device, so not a global setting was "settings" -> "Options" - "Default URI Match Detection" to "Host".

It defaulted to "base domain", but that's no good in a company where you have multiple subdomains or a home network with services that differ by port number.

LastPass premium used to be around €15.

They've destroyed themselves looking for a lot more, I'd voluntarily pay Bitwarden premium now.

Have to say, migrating to Bitwarden raised a few eyebrows when they gave a (free) report on potential previous breaches.

So +1 for BitWarden especially since they're open source.
Haven't looked at self hosting option yet.

AndrewJRenko · 25-02-2021 6:52pm

StemCell wrote: »

Long time user of LastPass, even paid for premium at one stage but yeah, their business decision to offer for free a few years ago what people were paying for has killed their market share now.

I exported my LastPass vault to CSV and after a few retries to import my passwords and secure notes, BitWarden is now my primary password manager.
Works in home laptop, work laptop and Android phones.

One thing I had to tweak on every device, so not a global setting was "settings" -> "Options" - "Default URI Match Detection" to "Host".

It defaulted to "base domain", but that's no good in a company where you have multiple subdomains or a home network with services that differ by port number.

LastPass premium used to be around €15.

They've destroyed themselves looking for a lot more, I'd voluntarily pay Bitwarden premium now.

Have to say, migrating to Bitwarden raised a few eyebrows when they gave a (free) report on potential previous breaches.

So +1 for BitWarden especially since they're open source.
Haven't looked at self hosting option yet.

Did you have rights to install on your work laptop?

StemCell · 26-02-2021 9:29pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Did you have rights to install on your work laptop?

Depends on your I.T. policy.

I was able to install it directly from the Chrome extension/add-on store.
The Firefox extension/add-onstore was blocked until I logged out of the VPN, then I could install it.

26-02-2021 9:41pm

A lot of people just have a normal laptop for work if they aren’t in an American multinational anyway. Definitely a lot handier when you can just add the extension.

Laviski · 04-03-2021 10:49am

StemCell wrote: »

Long time user of LastPass, even paid for premium at one stage but yeah, their business decision to offer for free a few years ago what people were paying for has killed their market share now.

I exported my LastPass vault to CSV and after a few retries to import my passwords and secure notes, BitWarden is now my primary password manager.
Works in home laptop, work laptop and Android phones.

One thing I had to tweak on every device, so not a global setting was "settings" -> "Options" - "Default URI Match Detection" to "Host".

It defaulted to "base domain", but that's no good in a company where you have multiple subdomains or a home network with services that differ by port number.

LastPass premium used to be around €15.

They've destroyed themselves looking for a lot more, I'd voluntarily pay Bitwarden premium now.

Have to say, migrating to Bitwarden raised a few eyebrows when they gave a (free) report on potential previous breaches.

So +1 for BitWarden especially since they're open source.
Haven't looked at self hosting option yet.

Also was an advocate for lastpass who did pay premium way back when before they made the features free, now moved to bitwarden and have to say the move was seemless and paying their premium. Works on home/work/mobile devices flawlessly.

AndrewJRenko · 04-03-2021 12:15pm

StemCell wrote: »

Depends on your I.T. policy.

I was able to install it directly from the Chrome extension/add-on store.
The Firefox extension/add-onstore was blocked until I logged out of the VPN, then I could install it.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I don't have access to the store, regardless of the VPN. I used to have access, so I have the LastPass extension installed, but I won't be able to install a replacement app.

Hence my question as to which of the alternative options would work best without an installation.

LastPass due to restrict free users to One Device

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