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    #92
    Five Eighth
    Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭Five Eighth


    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Why can’t it be both? No need to have such a miserable outlook on it... pro players essentially finish work during the week the same time anyone working a 9-5 does, nothing to stop him going down to training to help out on a tuesday&thursday and helping out on match day when possible, not like he’s going to be doing 40+ hours of video analysis and the rest of the duties of a head coach.. not to mention both teams train in the same location so he can go directly from one to the other and obviously it will help bohs attract players coming out of school if they are offered the opportunity to pick the brain of an international
    Didn't mean to appear 'miserable'. Was just wondering aloud about the extent of involvement in coaching and training a professional player such as Tommy O D can give to a club when he's named as the 'contact skills coach'. As I noted, it's great to see him involved and good luck to Bohs.


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    #93
    The Lost Sheep
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    Kolo Kiripati is bee Head Coach to Buccaneers RFC for 2020/21 Season

    Management team as follows:-
    -Head Coach. Kolo Kiripati.
    -Assistant Coach. Henry Bryce.
    -Scrum Coach. Dave Henshaw.
    -S&C. Cormac Ward.
    -Senior Team Manager. Mickey Carroll.
    -Squad Manager. John Doyle.
    -Kit Manager. Martin Webster.
    -Recruitment & Senior Player Welfare Officer. Adrian Hanley.
    -Physio. Jack Manion, Ed Scully.


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    #94
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    Five Eighth wrote: »
    Didn't mean to appear 'miserable'. Was just wondering aloud about the extent of involvement in coaching and training a professional player such as Tommy O D can give to a club when he's named as the 'contact skills coach'. As I noted, it's great to see him involved and good luck to Bohs.
    But that he is a pro player has no real impact on the extent of involvement. Him being a pro player is just his job, no more than someone who works in the bank and has his/her coaching badges.

    He has expertise in contact and can surely add value. Very often good player doesn’t make good coach, but this is a specific role that he has a lot of experience in and good for him. Would love to see more of it.


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    #95
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    Lot of changes with us in Terenure, our entire u20s coaching staff is now being changed.


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    #96
    luke9311
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    Chico Flores wrote: »
    Lot of changes with us in Terenure, our entire u20s coaching staff is now being changed.

    Skehan still about I take it he is?


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    #97
    Five Eighth
    Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭Five Eighth


    Chico Flores wrote: »
    Lot of changes with us in Terenure, our entire u20s coaching staff is now being changed.
    The school and 20's are doing a great job in supplying the Terenure firsts with quality players. When Nure are on song, they play some free flowing rugby and are a joy to watch. Thought Jamie Glynn was a big loss to them last season but I think they will be a handful for any team in 1A this season particularly if Marsh, Thompson and Brewer resign.


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    #98
    FellasFellas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    Stephen O'Neill is captain and Harrison Brewer is vice captain of Terenure.


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    #99
    Stainalert
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    FellasFellas wrote: »
    Stephen O'Neill is captain and Harrison Brewer is vice captain of Terenure.

    Good appointments - Think Stephen O'Neill is a really good player - very underrated.


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    #100
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    luke9311 wrote: »
    Skehan still about I take it he is?

    He is.


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    #101
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    Five Eighth wrote: »
    The school and 20's are doing a great job in supplying the Terenure firsts with quality players. When Nure are on song, they play some free flowing rugby and are a joy to watch. Thought Jamie Glynn was a big loss to them last season but I think they will be a handful for any team in 1A this season particularly if Marsh, Thompson and Brewer resign.

    I don’t know, we sort of think we arent getting enough regular talent from the school/20s than we used to when we played/went there.

    Adam La Grue and Sam Dardis (who can be hot and cold) are really the only two in last few years. We brought in two centres last year.


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    #102
    Scottmactom
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    I'd say Terenure College doesn't produce anywhere near enough players... is Skehan involved with the school at all?


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    #103
    Five Eighth
    Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭Five Eighth


    Chico Flores wrote: »
    I don’t know, we sort of think we arent getting enough regular talent from the school/20s than we used to when we played/went there.

    Adam La Grue and Sam Dardis (who can be hot and cold) are really the only two in last few years. We brought in two centres last year.
    Oh, went to a match in Lakelands and the Terenure backs lined up as Mathew Byrne, Sam Coughlan Murray, Adam Lagrue, Stephen O Neill, Sam Dardis and James Thornton. I thought they were all school and/or 20's produced. Mea Culpa. Heard that one of the centres Nure signed last season worked out and the other one didn't.


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    #104
    Scottmactom
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    Five Eighth wrote: »
    Oh, went to a match in Lakelands and the Terenure backs lined up as Mathew Byrne, Sam Coughlan Murray, Adam Lagrue, Stephen O Neill, Sam Dardis and James Thornton. I thought they were all school and/or 20's produced. Mea Culpa. Heard that one of the centres Nure signed last season worked out and the other one didn't.

    SCM went to newbridge, the rest went to Nure.


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    #105
    The Lost Sheep
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    Chico Flores wrote: »
    I don’t know, we sort of think we arent getting enough regular talent from the school/20s than we used to when we played/went there.

    Adam La Grue and Sam Dardis (who can be hot and cold) are really the only two in last few years. We brought in two centres last year.
    would still be higher percentage from the school than the rest of the old boy clubs
    Scottmactom wrote: »
    I'd say Terenure College doesn't produce anywhere near enough players... is Skehan involved with the school at all?
    produce players for what levels. What's better for the sport a tiny number who go pro or vast majority playing the sport into 20s and 30s. It should always be the latter.


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    #106
    D14Rugby
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    Scottmactom wrote: »
    I'd say Terenure College doesn't produce anywhere near enough players... is Skehan involved with the school at all?

    There was a load of infighting in the school a couple years back I heard over the rugby, the principal was a GAA head and brought in teachers who were GAA heads and shipped the Rugby ones on one way or another. He was moved away by the order recently and they're now getting rugby systems back in place I'm lead to believe and working with the club more (previous principal quite literally tried to cut the club off by way of a fence).

    The club could still quite easily put out a team that'd do a job in 1A made completely of past pupils though which considering why the clubs there (the clubs never really over extended itself in pursuit of silverware) is probably considered a success.


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    #107
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    would still be higher percentage from the school than the rest of the old boy clubs

    produce players for what levels. What's better for the sport a tiny number who go pro or vast majority playing the sport into 20s and 30s. It should always be the latter.

    I suppose so, but that’s always been the way. We all did it, just in last few seasons we haven’t had many making transition from 20s/school to the 1st team.


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    #108
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    There was a load of infighting in the school a couple years back I heard over the rugby, the principal was a GAA head and brought in teachers who were GAA heads and shipped the Rugby ones on one way or another. He was moved away by the order recently and they're now getting rugby systems back in place I'm lead to believe and working with the club more (previous principal quite literally tried to cut the club off by way of a fence).

    The club could still quite easily put out a team that'd do a job in 1A made completely of past pupils though which considering why the clubs there (the clubs never really over extended itself in pursuit of silverware) is probably considered a success.

    Not totally right but more right than wrong


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    #109
    Chico Flores
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    Any other word on player transfers etc?


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    #110
    luke9311
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    Chico Flores wrote: »
    I don’t know, we sort of think we arent getting enough regular talent from the school/20s than we used to when we played/went there.

    Adam La Grue and Sam Dardis (who can be hot and cold) are really the only two in last few years. We brought in two centres last year.

    Was thinking that myself I remember a Lansdowne 20s side (a good one at that too) season 13/14 and the league was decided on the Aviva back pitch in the final game between them and nure 20s that was riddled with talent most on that team were on that sct team year previously! I remember Stephen O’neill, brewer, Mike Murphy, Niall lalor, rob somerville and I think the likes of Ronan church, Creagh and borza the props and Roche the hooker were all on that 20 side season later some if not most of them names went onto ail team for them u don’t really see that now. That was a talented 20s team that year tho


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    #111
    FellasFellas
    Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    Skehan is involved with the school in a capacity where he's taking a group all the way through from 2nd Year I think with the goal to be SCT coach with them. Terenure should have beaten CWC in the Schools Cup but McGettrick tried to do everything and then played on with one leg for the second half. It is sad seeing Terenure slip away but they'll be back.

    I think the club is always going to be in a good place, purely because they have the entire D6W community behind them. It's one of the best supported clubs in the country and a lot of very good people work in the club to keep it going at all levels.


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    #112
    D14Rugby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Chico Flores wrote: »
    Not totally right but more right than wrong

    Yeah I can never remember if it was the principal or just a carmelite with power that had it out for the rugby club. I heard he got a "promotion" away from the school though a while ago though and suddenly the school got a tonne of new rugby coaches in


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    #113
    Stainalert
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    AIL 1A News / Transfer Updates (As per this thread) - Please help fill in the gaps

    Lansdowne
    Captain: Jack Dwan
    In: Ed O'Keeffe (Old Wesley), Tadgh McElroy (Clontarf), Kyle Dixon (Navan), Clive Ross (Lansdowne)
    Out: Craig Ronaldson (Naas), Tim Murphy (Naas), Will Fay (Old Wesley)

    Terenure
    Captain: Stephen O'Neill
    In: Alex Thompson (Ulster), Harrison Brewer (Panasonic Wild Knights), Cathal Marsh (RUNY, St Marys)
    Out: Paddy Thornton (Wicklow)

    Clontarf
    Captain: Matt D'arcy
    In: Alex Soroka (Trinity)
    Out: Tadgh McElroy (Lansdowne)

    Ballynahinch
    Captain: ?
    In: Joe Dunleavy (Malone), Conor McAuley (Belfast Harlequins)
    Out: Conor Rankin (Malone), Clive Ross (Lansdowne)

    Trinity
    Captain: Max Kearney
    In:
    Out: Colm Hogan (Old Belvedere), Alex Soroka (Clontarf)

    UCD:
    Captain: Ronan Foley
    In:
    Out: Steve McVeigh (Monkstown), Jonny Guy (Travelling)

    Young Munster:
    Captain: ?
    In: Danny Qualter (Nottingham), Pa Ryan (Shannon)
    Out:

    Cork Con
    Captain: ?
    In:
    Out: Brian Scott (Retired)

    UCC
    Captain: ?
    In:
    Out:

    Garryowen
    Captain: ?
    In:
    Out:


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    #114
    D14Rugby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Could be a really interesting year this year for transfers. A lot of colleges and offices looking to go remote at least initially so less incentive for players to sign for a club near where they work/study.
    Could lead to a mass redistribution of players


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    #115
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Top underage players and where are they joining:

    Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
    Hugo O'Malley(LH Prop)
    Ben Popplewell(LH Prop)
    Lee Barron(Hooker)
    Ben Griffin(TH Prop) - DUFC
    Aaron Rowan(TH Prop)
    Mark Morrissey(Lock)
    Paul Deeny(Lock-Backrow)
    Will Hickey(Backrow)
    Jack Guinane(Backrow)
    Matthew Cullen(Scrumhalf)
    David Wilkinson(Outhalf)
    Charlie Tector(Outhalf)
    Fionn O'Hara(Outhalf)
    Marcus Kiely(Centre)
    Simon O'Kelly(Centre)
    Chris Cosgrave(Back Three)
    Ed Kelly(Back Three)
    Jamie Osborne(Back Three)


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    #116
    The Lost Sheep
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    Think Kevin Seymour is still Garryowen captain

    Ballina appointed JP Walsh as DOR and 1st team coach


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    #117
    Stainalert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    Scottmactom wrote: »
    Top underage players and where are they joining:

    Jack Boyle(LH Prop)
    Hugo O'Malley(LH Prop)
    Ben Popplewell(LH Prop)
    Lee Barron(Hooker)
    Ben Griffin(TH Prop) - DUFC
    Aaron Rowan(TH Prop)
    Mark Morrissey(Lock)
    Paul Deeny(Lock-Backrow) - Clontarf
    Will Hickey(Backrow)
    Jack Guinane(Backrow)
    Matthew Cullen(Scrumhalf)
    David Wilkinson(Outhalf)
    Charlie Tector(Outhalf)
    Fionn O'Hara(Outhalf)
    Marcus Kiely(Centre)
    Simon O'Kelly(Centre)
    Chris Cosgrave(Back Three)
    Ed Kelly(Back Three)
    Jamie Osborne(Back Three)

    Imagine most going to UCD / Trinity on scholarships


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    #118
    Scottmactom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭Scottmactom


    Cormac Foley joining Lansdowne from Marys?


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    #119
    stellenbosch
    Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭stellenbosch


    Scottmactom wrote: »
    Cormac Foley joining Lansdowne from Marys?

    Martin Maloney to Tarf from Belvo?


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    #120
    Stainalert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    Scottmactom wrote: »
    Cormac Foley joining Lansdowne from Marys?

    Yea had forgotten that one


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    #121
    Stainalert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    stellenbosch wrote: »
    Martin Maloney to Tarf from Belvo?

    Good signing for Tarf


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