UK graduate thrown out of gay club after "triggering" Blurred Lines is played

Kev W · 05-08-2015 9:49am

kneemos wrote: »

Bit melodramatic.

Asking for clarity is melodramatic?

He claimed I have a "right hard on for this topic" because of my posts, what exactly am I supposed to respond to there?

Yes, I give a **** about the subject. Am I supposed to make that clearer or defend it somehow?

The Corinthian · 05-08-2015 9:49am

Kev W wrote: »

There's been a degree of research on the subject.

Sure, what about credible evidence like I asked?

If someone self-identifies as being Napoleon, is that valid too?

zeffabelli · 05-08-2015 9:51am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

She's not a one or a zero.

S/he's a xeno's paradox.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 9:53am

The Corinthian wrote: »

Sure, what about credible evidence like I asked?

If someone self-identifies as being Napoleon, is that valid too?

No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?

zeffabelli · 05-08-2015 9:55am

The Corinthian wrote: »

Sure, what about credible evidence like I asked?

If someone self-identifies as being Napoleon, is that valid too?

Yes because consensual reality has left the building and therapy speak has infiltrated legislation.

Just wait till multiple personality disorders can get 4 birthcerts and passports.

lawred2 · 05-08-2015 9:57am

speedboatchase wrote: »

Some of these quotes are incredible, both from the complainant and the original DJ. As one of the commenters said, the DJ is there to play music, not give you a hug.

http://thetab.com/uk/leeds/2015/08/03/leeds-grad-claims-kicked-gay-club-complaining-blurred-lines-17684

Leeds grad claims she was kicked out of gay club for complaining about ‘Blurred Lines’

A Leeds graduate claims she was thrown out of a gay club and verbally abused after complaining to the DJ who played Blurred Lines.

Georgia Greenfield, who left Leeds in 2013, was ejected on Tuesday morning from Queen’s Court – Leeds’ main gay club. Georgia, 23, complained to the DJ saying it made her recall being raped.

Georgia wrote a note on a phone to the DJ saying: “‘I know you want it’ are the exact words my rapist said to me before he raped me. I don’t want to hear this ****.” Shockingly, the grad says the DJ called over the microphone: “**** off you silly bitch.”

Georgia says: “I didn’t expect the song to be turned off but I wanted to give the person playing it an impression of its effect.

“I didn’t even expect them to turn it off or to say anything back to me at all. Why would you?”

But Georgia and friend Noah were left shocked when the DJ told Georgia over the microphone to “**** off you silly bitch” as they walked off.

Friend Noah Martin, a French third year who was with Georgia at the club, said: “My initial reaction was disgust, fear and anger. I couldn’t believe it happened in a space that was supposed to be safe – a gay club.”

When they tried to re-enter the club, 23-year old Georgia claims they were told by bouncers the DJ had advised neither her nor her friend were allowed back in the club.

Georgia said: “I was in disbelief that I was being thrown out of a club for telling the DJ I was raped.

“As I was explaining the actual reasons to the bouncers (not to get back in, but because it was ridiculous) the DJ said over the microphone: ‘If you don’t like what I have to say you can **** off somewhere else’. Then as we were walking away he added: ‘There needs to be an electric fence around the DJ booth’.”

Noah lodged a complaint to the management of Queen’s Court and received an email confirming they were aware of the incident.

The email also said: “The incident is currently being fully investigated and a full response will be forwarded to [Georgia] once finalised”.

But Noah and Georgia are still unhappy. Noah said: “The manager didn’t even use the right pronouns for Georgia”.

Georgia identifies as “gender non-conforming” and prefers to use both “she and “they” pronouns, adding: “Noah as far as I know identifies as non-binary”.

When contacted by The Tab, a spokesperson for Queen’s Court said: “An investigation is underway. Due to it being pride weekend, it is taking a bit longer, but I am speaking to the lady in question.”

Georgia now wants disciplinary action to be taken against the DJ, and for Blurred Lines to be banned from the club “because it triggers so many women and people assigned female who go there”.

Georgia added: “Or at least it should be announced before it’s played from now on, so at least people can leave.”

attention seeker

Kev W · 05-08-2015 9:57am

zeffabelli wrote: »

Yes because consensual reality has left the building and therapy speak has infiltrated legislation.

Just wait till multiple personality disorders can get 4 birthcerts and passports.

Alright, who had "slippery slope" in the Idiotic Fallacy pool?

razorblunt · 05-08-2015 9:57am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

"Noah as far as I know identifies as non-binary"

what does that even mean

It means there are 10 people in the relationship. Herself and the girlfriend.

Bio Mech · 05-08-2015 9:59am

Kev W wrote: »

No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?

Do you have credible evidence that Napoleon is dead or that he was French? Or that he ever existed for that matter? I bet you have only ever read it on the internet.

if you want credible evidence for everyones opinions then there really is no point being on boards.

Red Alert · 05-08-2015 10:00am

I'm sure TheJournal.ie will write an enraged article about the effect that "Blurred Lines" had on her.

galljga1 · 05-08-2015 10:00am

razorblunt wrote: »

It means there are 10 people in the relationship. Herself and the girlfriend.

That would be 2. It's non binary.

kneemos · 05-08-2015 10:03am

Kev W wrote: »

No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?

Proving they're not deluded would be where it's at.
Unless you're accepting it without evidence.

anncoates · 05-08-2015 10:04am

Who'd work in a student nightclub. Posh, squeaky, non-binary neckbeard should be listed as an official occupational hazard.

05-08-2015 10:05am

Kev W wrote: »

No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?

Do you have any credible evidence for it? As I mentioned, the majority of research you linked to comes from feminist bodies, who obviously wouldn't have agendas to push.

Come back to me with research carried out by legitimate scientific journals and I'll take it more seriously. Or at least think it's less ridiculous.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 10:05am

kneemos wrote: »

Proving they're not deluded would be where it's at.
Unless you're accepting it without evidence.

Actually that's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative. The onus is on the person accusing someone of being delusional to prove that they're delusional.

If I say you're not Kneemos, do you have to prove you are?

kneemos · 05-08-2015 10:07am

Kev W wrote: »

Actually that's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative. The onus is on the person accusing someone of being delusional to prove that they're delusional.

If I say you're not Kneemos, do you have to prove you are?

OK.The moons a cabbage.

zeffabelli · 05-08-2015 10:07am

I'm starting to get the feeling this latest fashion of men wanting to be women is the manifestation of the feminising and castrating men in the wider culture, and these transgender guys are articulating what's happening in quieter less theatrical ways in marriages and work places across the west.

The Corinthian · 05-08-2015 10:07am

Kev W wrote: »

No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

But they can't be suffering from a delusion because they are clearly biologically a gender? Could you explain the criteria by which you decide that clearly present evidence can be ignored in one case and not in another?

So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?

Genitalia.

Dyr · 05-08-2015 10:07am

smoking_kills wrote: »

She's not female or male, as gender is a social construct. And yes, that's as stupid as it sounds.

Genders a social construct? If noah gets a swift quick in the bollix he might revise that theory

conorhal · 05-08-2015 10:08am

Deleted User wrote: »

Yea, I was on a dating site and someone identified as hetroflexible.

....

In my day we used to just refer to that as 'any port in a storm'. Simpler times.

Penn · 05-08-2015 10:08am

Look, ultimately people are entitled to identify themselves however they want. Their life, their personality, their choice.

However, if someone looks like a male and someone calls them a male, they shouldn't be upset if someone calls them a male. You may identify as non-binary or whatever, but other people can't possibly know that.

Penn · 05-08-2015 10:09am

zeffabelli wrote: »

I'm starting to get the feeling this latest fashion of men wanting to be women is the manifestation of the feminising and castrating men in the wider culture, and these transgender guys are articulating what's happening in quieter less theatrical ways in marriages and work places across the west.

... what?

jungleman · 05-08-2015 10:09am

Kev W wrote: »

Asking for clarity is melodramatic?

He claimed I have a "right hard on for this topic" because of my posts, what exactly am I supposed to respond to there?

Yes, I give a **** about the subject. Am I supposed to make that clearer or defend it somehow?

Kev, I find your comments to be offensive. They are triggering a past experience where I just did not feel safe on a public forum. Boards is supposed to be a safe place, and I am asking you to stop reminding me of this traumatic past event.

If you wish to reply to me, please use the proper pronouns. I prefer to be referred to as O Glorious King. Thank you.

galljga1 · 05-08-2015 10:09am

Bambi wrote: »

Genders a social construct? If noah gets a swift quick in the bollix he might revise that theory

I don't think Noah has a bollix.

jungleman · 05-08-2015 10:10am

Red Alert wrote: »

I'm sure TheJournal.ie will write an enraged article about the effect that "Blurred Lines" had on her.

Seeing as yesterdays rag included a story about how air conditioning is sexist, I wouldn't be surprised.

05-08-2015 10:11am

Bad Horse wrote: »

Look, ultimately people are entitled to identify themselves however they want. Their life, their personality, their choice.

However, if someone looks like a male and someone calls them a male, they shouldn't be upset if someone calls them a male. You may identify as non-binary or whatever, but other people can't possibly know that.

I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.

Dyr · 05-08-2015 10:11am

galljga1 wrote: »

I don't think Noah has a bollix.

He identifies as a bollix though

anncoates · 05-08-2015 10:12am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

'm not sure if this story is some sort of hoax, or what. I hope it is.

It's all a bit postmodern when you see real news articles that have come full circle and are virtually indistinguishable from satirical news articles.

Bio Mech · 05-08-2015 10:12am

Kev W wrote: »

Actually that's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative. The onus is on the person accusing someone of being delusional to prove that they're delusional.

Kev W wrote: »

No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon.

Impressive consistency there.

kneemos · 05-08-2015 10:13am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.

You just want buttering up.

zeffabelli · 05-08-2015 10:13am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.

I'm octopussy, even though I don't have 8 of them.... You must refer to me as "they" in future.

Kermit.de.frog · 05-08-2015 10:14am

The real story is that any club ever played Blurred Lines. I wouldn't stay either.

galljga1 · 05-08-2015 10:16am

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.

I am actually a non binary piece of toast. Butter and/or jam is acceptable but I am a bit confused about marmalade.

Dyr · 05-08-2015 10:18am

One a more serious note, how deeply f**ked up is it to refer to someone who raped you as "my rapist"

The Backwards Man · 05-08-2015 10:18am

When I was a college student I was working full time as well. Had barely enough time to pish, never mind worry what hole it was coming out of.

The King of Moo · 05-08-2015 10:18am

Was it a bit silly to show the message? Maybe, but it's understandable that someone who had been raped would have a bad reaction to that song, especially if their (that wasn't hard) rapist had used the exact phrase from the song.
I think by showing the DJ the note they just wanted to make a point about a pretty vile yet catchy song, to make people aware of how awful it is and maybe consider that when they think about playing it in public (maybe not too surprising if they're a recent graduate fresh enough from the campus environment).

Why they might expect the DJ to use the desired pronouns is beyond me, but equally beyond me is anyone defending the DJ's response.
Someone tells you the song has upset them as it reminds them strongly of a rape they've suffered and you say “**** off you silly bitch” rather than "sorry, I didn't know it would affect someone, I just play it as a catchy song??"
Grade A a**hole.

hairyslug · 05-08-2015 10:19am

Not sure what I'm offended by but you can be damn sure I'm offended.

I'll be honest I'm not that up to date on all these pronouns, was never very good at grammar but if you are not told directly, how do you know what pronoun to use when addressing someone. Do we just start going around calling everyone "Oi, you"

galljga1 · 05-08-2015 10:21am

The King of Moo wrote: »

Was it a bit silly to show the message? Maybe, but it's understandable that someone who had been raped would have a bad reaction to that song, especially if their (that wasn't hard) rapist had used the exact phrase from the song.

No.... I can't...

kneemos · 05-08-2015 10:22am

hairyslug wrote: »

Not sure what I'm offended by but you can be damn sure I'm offended.

I'll be honest I'm not that up to date on all these pronouns, was never very good at grammar but if you are not told directly, how do you know what pronoun to use when addressing someone. Do we just start going around calling everyone "Oi, you"

Oi ye might be more appropriate.

ohnonotgmail · 05-08-2015 10:23am

zeffabelli wrote: »

I'm starting to get the feeling this latest fashion of men wanting to be women is the manifestation of the feminising and castrating men in the wider culture, and these transgender guys are articulating what's happening in quieter less theatrical ways in marriages and work places across the west.

you must have a degree in wimmins studies.

Duggy747 · 05-08-2015 10:24am

Person 1: *sound of quick breath as mouth is opened to begin speaking*

Person 2: "OMFG, TRIGGERED!!!"

05-08-2015 10:28am

You know it's bad when she herself is quoted perfectly and she still sounds like an absolute tit.

Men and women have tits so I guess it's probably ok to call her that.

spodoinkle · 05-08-2015 10:29am

antodeco wrote: »

Her mates used to call her 01101101, now they just call her Syntax Error, or File not found

Greatest. Post. Ever.

hairyslug · 05-08-2015 10:29am

On a more serious note and excuse my ignorance, I have led a sheltered life but is this a new phenomenon.
I'm quite young,mid 30s but when I grew up you were straight, gay or bi with the odd transvestite(that you would only see doing comedy sketches on tv), maybe that was just the group I grew up with (straight, gay and bi)
Were all of these people that identified as something other than the above going around being non binary or non conformist or did they see themselves as gay/straight/bi.

zeffabelli · 05-08-2015 10:30am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you must have a degree in wimmins studies.

No but I may as well have, having been exposed to all the overpriced indoctrination of undergraduate school.

tritium · 05-08-2015 10:31am

The King of Moo wrote: »

Was it a bit silly to show the message? Maybe, but it's understandable that someone who had been raped would have a bad reaction to that song, especially if their (that wasn't hard) rapist had used the exact phrase from the song.
I think by showing the DJ the note they just wanted to make a point about a pretty vile yet catchy song, to make people aware of how awful it is and maybe consider that when they think about playing it in public (maybe not too surprising if they're a recent graduate fresh enough from the campus environment).

Why they might expect the DJ to use the desired pronouns is beyond me, but equally beyond me is anyone defending the DJ's response.
Someone tells you the song has upset them as it reminds them strongly of a rape they've suffered and you say “**** off you silly bitch” rather than "sorry, I didn't know it would affect someone, I just play it as a catchy song??"
Grade A a**hole.

Would they have a bad reaction because of a) the lyrics, in which case just about any song is potentially off limits and we end up with an approach to free speech compatible to the Taliban, or b) because of all the ruckus and assorted bollocks raised about the song by certain groups pushing an agenda?

rizzodun · 05-08-2015 10:32am

Kev W wrote: »

What a brilliant counterpoint. I'm sold, you've converted me. Let's go stomp some queers!

So because I think having 20 different names for gender neutral or transgender is a load of bull I'm a homophobe now?

If people want to define themselves not on their birth gender they're more than welcome, more power to them and if it were my kid they'd be fully supported, but waffling on about non-binary and having a load of different names for it sounds like a load of bollock hipster "you don't understand what it's like" talk if you ask me.

Half the problem with today's generation, "How dare you define me as male or female based on my genitals! I cannot be defined, but I use these 20 buzz words instead!"

hatrickpatrick · 05-08-2015 10:32am

There was a thread not so long ago asking exactly what "SJW" means. The answer is people like these and anyone who defends, or worse, enables them.

Kev W · 05-08-2015 10:35am

Bio Mech wrote: »

Impressive consistency there.

Complete consistency in fact. Since it's impossible for a living person to be Napoleon Bonaparte as he is dead, the fact of Bonaparte's death is sufficient proof that anyone claiming to be him is at the very least lying or delusional.

Carlos Orange · 05-08-2015 10:36am

Threads about trigger warnings should really have their own trigger warning.

UK graduate thrown out of gay club after "triggering" Blurred Lines is played

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