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UK graduate thrown out of gay club after "triggering" Blurred Lines is played

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  • #62
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    razorblunt wrote: »
    It means there are 10 people in the relationship. Herself and the girlfriend.

    That would be 2. It's non binary.


  • #63
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,893 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Kev W wrote: »
    No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

    So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?


    Proving they're not deluded would be where it's at.
    Unless you're accepting it without evidence.


  • #64
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Who'd work in a student nightclub. Posh, squeaky, non-binary neckbeard should be listed as an official occupational hazard.


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kev W wrote: »
    No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.

    So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?

    Do you have any credible evidence for it? As I mentioned, the majority of research you linked to comes from feminist bodies, who obviously wouldn't have agendas to push.

    Come back to me with research carried out by legitimate scientific journals and I'll take it more seriously. Or at least think it's less ridiculous.


  • #66
    Kev W
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    kneemos wrote: »
    Proving they're not deluded would be where it's at.
    Unless you're accepting it without evidence.

    Actually that's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative. The onus is on the person accusing someone of being delusional to prove that they're delusional.

    If I say you're not Kneemos, do you have to prove you are?


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  • #67
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,893 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Kev W wrote: »
    Actually that's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative. The onus is on the person accusing someone of being delusional to prove that they're delusional.

    If I say you're not Kneemos, do you have to prove you are?


    OK.The moons a cabbage.


  • #68
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    I'm starting to get the feeling this latest fashion of men wanting to be women is the manifestation of the feminising and castrating men in the wider culture, and these transgender guys are articulating what's happening in quieter less theatrical ways in marriages and work places across the west.


  • #69
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Kev W wrote: »
    No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon. Unless of course that happens to be their actual name but I'm going with the assumption that you refer to the historical figure.
    But they can't be suffering from a delusion because they are clearly biologically a gender? Could you explain the criteria by which you decide that clearly present evidence can be ignored in one case and not in another?
    So do you mean to say that in your opinion if someone identifies as non-binary they're deluded? Do you have credible evidence of that?
    Genitalia.


  • #70
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    smoking_kills wrote: »
    She's not female or male, as gender is a social construct. And yes, that's as stupid as it sounds.

    Genders a social construct? If noah gets a swift quick in the bollix he might revise that theory


  • #71
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,059 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yea, I was on a dating site and someone identified as hetroflexible.

    ....

    In my day we used to just refer to that as 'any port in a storm'. Simpler times.


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  • #72
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Look, ultimately people are entitled to identify themselves however they want. Their life, their personality, their choice.

    However, if someone looks like a male and someone calls them a male, they shouldn't be upset if someone calls them a male. You may identify as non-binary or whatever, but other people can't possibly know that.


  • #73
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    zeffabelli wrote: »
    I'm starting to get the feeling this latest fashion of men wanting to be women is the manifestation of the feminising and castrating men in the wider culture, and these transgender guys are articulating what's happening in quieter less theatrical ways in marriages and work places across the west.

    ... what?


  • #74
    jungleman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    Kev W wrote: »
    Asking for clarity is melodramatic?

    He claimed I have a "right hard on for this topic" because of my posts, what exactly am I supposed to respond to there?

    Yes, I give a **** about the subject. Am I supposed to make that clearer or defend it somehow?

    Kev, I find your comments to be offensive. They are triggering a past experience where I just did not feel safe on a public forum. Boards is supposed to be a safe place, and I am asking you to stop reminding me of this traumatic past event.

    If you wish to reply to me, please use the proper pronouns. I prefer to be referred to as O Glorious King. Thank you.


  • #75
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Bambi wrote: »
    Genders a social construct? If noah gets a swift quick in the bollix he might revise that theory

    I don't think Noah has a bollix.


  • #76
    jungleman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    Red Alert wrote: »
    I'm sure TheJournal.ie will write an enraged article about the effect that "Blurred Lines" had on her.

    Seeing as yesterdays rag included a story about how air conditioning is sexist, I wouldn't be surprised.


  • #77
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Bad Horse wrote: »
    Look, ultimately people are entitled to identify themselves however they want. Their life, their personality, their choice.

    However, if someone looks like a male and someone calls them a male, they shouldn't be upset if someone calls them a male. You may identify as non-binary or whatever, but other people can't possibly know that.

    I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.


  • #78
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    galljga1 wrote: »
    I don't think Noah has a bollix.

    He identifies as a bollix though


  • #79
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    'm not sure if this story is some sort of hoax, or what. I hope it is.

    It's all a bit postmodern when you see real news articles that have come full circle and are virtually indistinguishable from satirical news articles. :)


  • #80
    Bio Mech
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    Kev W wrote: »
    Actually that's not how evidence works. You can't prove a negative. The onus is on the person accusing someone of being delusional to prove that they're delusional.
    Kev W wrote: »
    No, they're suffering from a delusion because Napoleon is a long-dead French Emperor. It's impossible to be Napoleon.

    Impressive consistency there.


  • #81
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,893 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.


    You just want buttering up.


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  • #82
    zeffabelli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭zeffabelli


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.

    I'm octopussy, even though I don't have 8 of them.... You must refer to me as "they" in future.


  • #83
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The real story is that any club ever played Blurred Lines. I wouldn't stay either.


  • #84
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm a piece of toast and if you don't address me as such, I'm going to have lots of faux-rage and post angry stuff on twitter, my blog, and tumblr.

    I am actually a non binary piece of toast. Butter and/or jam is acceptable but I am a bit confused about marmalade.


  • #85
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    One a more serious note, how deeply f**ked up is it to refer to someone who raped you as "my rapist" :confused:


  • #86
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Was it a bit silly to show the message? Maybe, but it's understandable that someone who had been raped would have a bad reaction to that song, especially if their (that wasn't hard) rapist had used the exact phrase from the song.
    I think by showing the DJ the note they just wanted to make a point about a pretty vile yet catchy song, to make people aware of how awful it is and maybe consider that when they think about playing it in public (maybe not too surprising if they're a recent graduate fresh enough from the campus environment).

    Why they might expect the DJ to use the desired pronouns is beyond me, but equally beyond me is anyone defending the DJ's response.
    Someone tells you the song has upset them as it reminds them strongly of a rape they've suffered and you say “**** off you silly bitch” rather than "sorry, I didn't know it would affect someone, I just play it as a catchy song??"
    Grade A a**hole.


  • #87
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    When I was a college student I was working full time as well. Had barely enough time to pish, never mind worry what hole it was coming out of.


  • #88
    hairyslug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Not sure what I'm offended by but you can be damn sure I'm offended.

    I'll be honest I'm not that up to date on all these pronouns, was never very good at grammar but if you are not told directly, how do you know what pronoun to use when addressing someone. Do we just start going around calling everyone "Oi, you"


  • #89
    galljga1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    Was it a bit silly to show the message? Maybe, but it's understandable that someone who had been raped would have a bad reaction to that song, especially if their (that wasn't hard) rapist had used the exact phrase from the song.

    No.... I can't...


  • #90
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,893 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    hairyslug wrote: »
    Not sure what I'm offended by but you can be damn sure I'm offended.

    I'll be honest I'm not that up to date on all these pronouns, was never very good at grammar but if you are not told directly, how do you know what pronoun to use when addressing someone. Do we just start going around calling everyone "Oi, you"


    Oi ye might be more appropriate.


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  • #91
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,911 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    zeffabelli wrote: »
    I'm starting to get the feeling this latest fashion of men wanting to be women is the manifestation of the feminising and castrating men in the wider culture, and these transgender guys are articulating what's happening in quieter less theatrical ways in marriages and work places across the west.

    you must have a degree in wimmins studies.


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