After Hours Election 2020 poll

19-01-2020 11:12pm

Edgware wrote: »

"within the pail" ? They might kick the bucket allright
Hoping to get a boost because students will go home from their excessively rented accommodation to vote and "country folk" will not vote due to travelling to Dublin is really grasping at straws. Incidentally a lot of these "country folk" are from North of the Border and wont have a vote.

Whoosh

The_Kew_Tour · 20-01-2020 1:39am

I love the way this poll will be way off, of what will actually happen on the 8th

cryptocurrency · 20-01-2020 1:58am

Fianna Fail all the way

shenanagans · 20-01-2020 2:14am

Leo is coming across as FGs weakest link as far as I can see. He comes across very poorly often very arrogant and he never stops droning on about the past. After 9 years in power the FG leader should be able to focus on their record rather than his non stop below the belt digs at the opposition.

He is a LOT to do with FGs falling popularity. They have done a good job with the economy but leo is not liked. If they have a bad election I'd say he'll step aside and let Simon C take over. Can't see leo playing second fiddle the MM.

cryptocurrency · 20-01-2020 2:54am

shenanagans wrote: »

Leo is coming across as FGs weakest link as far as I can see. He comes across very poorly often very arrogant and he never stops droning on about the past. After 9 years in power the FG leader should be able to focus on their record rather than his non stop below the belt digs at the opposition.

He is a LOT to do with FGs falling popularity. They have done a good job with the economy but leo is not liked. If they have a bad election I'd say he'll step aside and let Simon C take over. Can't see leo playing second fiddle the MM.

surely a big job in brussels is calling as he has been so cringe in kissing their backside

Mad_maxx · 20-01-2020 8:40am

Snow Garden wrote: »

Enda got lucky with the economy. He didn't have any new ideas. They were all IMF/FF economic policies.

The hard working people of Ireland and US multinationals got us back on track.
Enda tried to scupper the recovery with the biggest quango of all time - Irish Water (set up in a cloud of cronyism and corruption).

Enda promised new politics and and end to the trolley crisis and abolition/reform of the Seanad. He also let Maurice McCabe hang in the wind for years while successive justice ministers and corrupt Garda commissioners tried to silence him.

Enda proved to the international markets that a solid pair of hands would be at the wheel from 2011 on, Greece chose a communist government and made a bad situation worse, our situation was touch and go for about a year as to whether a second bailout would be required, a sensible government restored faith in the markets

Enda wasn't and isn't an especially talented individual but he was by any measure a successful taoiseach

NIMAN · 20-01-2020 8:45am

The poll on here is totally opposite to what the media polls are reporting.

FG in a clear lead.

Billcarson · 20-01-2020 9:25am

NIMAN wrote: »

The poll on here is totally opposite to what the media polls are reporting.

FG in a clear lead.

Plenty of snobs on boards though,so I wouldn't read too much into that .

Wanderer78 · 20-01-2020 9:31am

Mad_maxx wrote:

Enda proved to the international markets that a solid pair of hands would be at the wheel from 2011 on, Greece chose a communist government and made a bad situation worse, our situation was touch and go for about a year as to whether a second bailout would be required, a sensible government restored faith in the markets

Greece tried to show that pretending that European financial institutions werent bankrupt, and continually extending bailouts, and by implementing austerity measures, simply would not work, time has shown, they were right

Mad_maxx · 20-01-2020 10:08am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Greece tried to show that pretending that European financial institutions werent bankrupt, and continually extending bailouts, and by implementing austerity measures, simply would not work, time has shown, they were right

Yes, Greece chose a wise path

Not!

Wanderer78 · 20-01-2020 10:22am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Yes, Greece chose a wise path

Not!

completely agree, accepting the bailout terms has brought stability to their economy, has stabilised the eu as a whole, and everything is good, particularly amongst eu financial institutions, the future of the eu looks good

Snow Garden · 20-01-2020 10:46am

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So what has your boy Varadkar done differently?

Kenny put himself in front of the people twice and was returned, although it was only by the skin of his teeth last time round.

This is Varadkars first time fighting for re election as Taoiseach and he has done nothing to warrant a return to the bosses chair.

Although the alternative is worse, the idea of MM running the show is enough to make me sick.

My boy Varadkar?

Enda never put himself in front of anything. He let others take the bullets. He could barely answer a question in the Dail and ran away from the press.
It was very frustrating especially since there was no credible opposition with FF licking their wounds. Enda had a massive opportunity in 2011
to really reform this country but he blew it. Enda took the safe approach (do nothing and hope for the best) and still managed to lose 16 seats in 2016.
He cleverly let Labour take the heat for Irish Water when it was Trickle Hogan that did alll the damage. Hogan got rewarded for the Irish Water disaster with a new job in Europe!

Just like Enda, Leo has been lucky with the economy continuing to recovery. Leo gets no credit for that either.
Leo has also tried his best to waste taxpayer money (e.g. Childrens hospital, Broadband scheme).
But I do give credit to Leo for being more articulate and available since he became Taoiseach in 2017. He repealed the 8th which Enda just
avoided like the plague. The one thing I really respect Leo for is calling Maurice McCabe a distinguished member of the Gardai. I think that
was a turning point for that poor man who got a lot of abuse from this state. Enda met him on the street (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/elections/kenny-shakes-hands-with-whistleblower-garda-mccabe-30287155.html).

Having said all that, Leo's overall tenure as Taoiseach has been very poor. His handling of the Maria Bailey debacle was truly awful.
I have voted FG for 20 years but I will not vote for them again. FF are still a crowd of gangsters but somehow FG are making them look good.
I will be voting SDs or Independents on Feb 8.

huddledDuke12 · 20-01-2020 11:01am

If Renua are still around, they have my number 1!

Wanderer78 · 20-01-2020 11:03am

huddledDuke12 wrote: »

If Renua are still around, they have my number 1!

still around but insignificant

s7ryf3925pivug · 20-01-2020 11:05am

Haven't voted yet because I havent decided yet, but it will be one of the Greens, Labour or the Social Democrats.

s7ryf3925pivug · 20-01-2020 11:08am

The selection of the date was to block young voters.
There was a push to register a lot of young voters over the last year. However they will only be added to the register on the 15th of February. So they picked a date earlier than that.

Earthhorse · 20-01-2020 1:40pm

Ramiro Better Ram wrote: »

The selection of the date was to block young voters.
There was a push to register a lot of young voters over the last year. However they will only be added to the register on the 15th of February. So they picked a date earlier than that.

Where are you getting this from? The register gets updated on a regular basis. The fact that it's on a Saturday suggest they want to help students and young people vote.

20-01-2020 1:46pm

Ramiro Better Ram wrote: »

The selection of the date was to block young voters.
There was a push to register a lot of young voters over the last year. However they will only be added to the register on the 15th of February. So they picked a date earlier than that.

They can go on the supplementary register

20-01-2020 2:13pm

Earthhorse wrote: »

Where are you getting this from? The register gets updated on a regular basis. The fact that it's on a Saturday suggest they want to help students and young people vote.

I heard February 15th as earliest too.

s7ryf3925pivug · 20-01-2020 3:07pm

Earthhorse wrote: »

Where are you getting this from? The register gets updated on a regular basis. The fact that it's on a Saturday suggest they want to help students and young people vote.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/registering_to_vote.html#l82302

https://www.thejournal.ie/general-election-2020-draft-register-problem-4964913-Jan2020/

The register comes into force on 15 February.

Yes they can go on the supplementary register, but some of them won't and fewer of them will vote.

I don't see a Saturday election being of any particular benefit to young people or students.

Earthhorse · 20-01-2020 3:17pm

Ramiro Better Ram wrote: »

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/registering_to_vote.html#l82302

https://www.thejournal.ie/general-election-2020-draft-register-problem-4964913-Jan2020/

The register comes into force on 15 February.

Yes they can go on the supplementary register, but some of them won't and fewer of them will vote.

How does this affect young people in particular though?

I don't see a Saturday election being of any particular benefit to young people or students.

Most students who study away from their home town are not registered where they study and so have to face losing out on a day of college in order to travel home to vote. It has been a common complaint in every election I've ever been able to vote in.

s7ryf3925pivug · 20-01-2020 3:20pm

Earthhorse wrote: »

How does this affect young people in particular though?

Most students who study away from their home town are not registered where they study and so have to face losing out on a day of college in order to travel home to vote. It has been a common complaint in every election I've ever been able to vote in.

Obviously a large portion of people who are newly registered to vote will be people who have only recently become old enough.

Also like I mentioned, there was a push to get a lot of them registered last year, and now lots of them won't be.

nigeldaniel · 20-01-2020 3:21pm

FG, I see no need to be chopping and changing all the time. Before anyone starts on about the problems the country faces, There is no such thing as perfection. The more we all bad together and do out best the better, kicking cans and protesting solves no problems.

s7ryf3925pivug · 20-01-2020 3:29pm

nigeldaniel wrote: »

FG, I see no need to be chopping and changing all the time. Before anyone starts on about the problems the country faces, There is no such thing as perfection. The more we all bad together and do out best the better, kicking cans and protesting solves no problems.

Women's suffrage, MLK, US withdrawal from Vietnam, British withdrawal from India, fall of the Berlin Wall, overthrow of Communist governments in all European Warsaw Pact nations (all bloodless revolutions except Romania), legalisation of abortion, legalisation of gay marriage...

Earthhorse · 20-01-2020 3:31pm

Ramiro Better Ram wrote: »

Obviously a large portion of people who are newly registered to vote will be people who have only recently become old enough.

Also like I mentioned, there was a push to get a lot of them registered last year, and now lots of them won't be.

As another poster pointed out they can still vote by registering on the supplementary register.

s7ryf3925pivug · 20-01-2020 3:39pm

Earthhorse wrote: »

As another poster pointed out they can still vote by registering on the supplementary register.

Like I already said "Yes they can go on the supplementary register, but some of them won't and fewer of them will vote."

Enough repeating myself; read my posts if you want to respond to them.

Earthhorse · 20-01-2020 3:50pm

Ramiro Better Ram wrote: »

Like I already said "Yes they can go on the supplementary register, but some of them won't and fewer of them will vote."

Enough repeating myself; read my posts if you want to respond to them.

I'll do as I please, thanks all the same.

EmmetSpiceland · 20-01-2020 4:21pm

The election should be moved to August to “accommodate” all the people who won’t be old enough, or who were too lazy to update their details, for this one.

jimgoose · 21-01-2020 3:42pm

FG, along with Woman who is a card-carrying, fanatical SS-Standartenführer.

cryptocurrency · 22-01-2020 7:39am

nigeldaniel wrote: »

FG, I see no need to be chopping and changing all the time. Before anyone starts on about the problems the country faces, There is no such thing as perfection. The more we all bad together and do out best the better, kicking cans and protesting solves no problems.

FG handling if Brexit will see them wiped out at the polls

Wanderer78 · 22-01-2020 8:01am

cryptocurrency wrote:

FG handling if Brexit will see them wiped out at the polls

It doesn't seem like brexit is turning up much on the doors, so I think, very few care about it, I think they haven't done a bad job with it, I do think though, they ll do badly for other reasons

cryptocurrency · 22-01-2020 8:05am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

It doesn't seem like brexit is turning up much on the doors, so I think, very few care about it, I think they haven't done a bad job with it, I do think though, they ll do badly for other reasons

Brexit is happening, we need to accept that and we also need to accept that the UK wants an independent trade policy. We need a leadership that not only accepts that but is ready to repair the damage done by FG with such a critical partner such as the UK.

None of this historical nonesense on FG and UK relations, they made a mess of it and it seems FF need to fix it. If may not be an issue now but unless the damage is repaired it will start to become a real issue.

JohnnyFlash · 22-01-2020 9:10am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

FG handling if Brexit will see them wiped out at the polls

How should they have handled it differently?

BeerWolf · 22-01-2020 9:16am

We're in unbelievable issues due to gross incompetence and blatant corruption, and FG is topping the polls...

They, along with FF, even had the gall to say they're the only two parties capable of running Government...

The people of this country are its own worst enemy to continuously re-elect ****ing clowns.

JohnnyFlash · 22-01-2020 9:22am

BeerWolf wrote: »

We're in unbelievable issues due to gross incompetence and blatant corruption, and FG is topping the polls...

They, along with FF, even had the gall to say they're the only two parties capable of running Government...

The people of this country are its own worst enemy to continuously re-elect ****ing clowns.

You live in one of the wealthiest, safest, and fairest countries in the world, dude. That happened under FF and FG governments. Paddy and Petula don’t want some motley crew of shinners, lefties and mouth-breathing independents running the country into the ground. They want moderate and well-meaning people like themselves, and that’s why they vote FG or FF.

Gross incompetence and blatant corruption? It isn’t South Sudan, pal. Calm down with the hyperbole.

Pherekydes · 22-01-2020 9:26am

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I love the way this poll will be way off, of what will actually happen on the 8th

Why would you expect different?

BeerWolf · 22-01-2020 9:40am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

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Gross incompetence and blatant corruption? It isn’t South Sudan, pal. Calm down with the hyperbole.

Ah so issues with billions spent on a children's hospital gone well over budget, stupid projects like the rural fibre broadband scheme, the printer thing, housing/homeless issue, drastic increase in anti-social and criminal activity, less funding for Gardai and closure of hospitals causing this trolley crisis, Leo signing back on within a few months into his position for ex-Taoiseachs get up to €300k benefits per year, etc etc has absolutely nothing to do with obvious embezzlement and incompetence?

Aight, you've swayed me!

Earthhorse · 22-01-2020 10:25am

cryptocurrency wrote: »

FG handling if Brexit will see them wiped out at the polls

Their performance on Brexit is one of the few reasons to vote for them.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2020 10:27am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

You live in one of the wealthiest, safest, and fairest countries in the world, dude. That happened under FF and FG governments. Paddy and Petula don’t want some motley crew of shinners, lefties and mouth-breathing independents running the country into the ground. They want moderate and well-meaning people like themselves, and that’s why they vote FG or FF.

Gross incompetence and blatant corruption? It isn’t South Sudan, pal. Calm down with the hyperbole.

Yes its very very easy to get a carried away with hyperbole and believe everything is awful. Ireland is a great country to live in with a very high standard of living.

BeerWolf · 22-01-2020 10:31am

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Yes its very very easy to get a carried away with hyperbole and believe everything is awful. Ireland is a great country to live in with a very high standard of living.

If it doesn't affect you.*

Leo says the same thing.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2020 12:50pm

BeerWolf wrote: »

If it doesn't affect you.*

Leo says the same thing.

The average person in Ireland is a lot better off then the average person in the world

Edgware · 22-01-2020 1:13pm

BeerWolf wrote: »

We're in unbelievable issues due to gross incompetence and blatant corruption, and FG is topping the polls...

They, along with FF, even had the gall to say they're the only two parties capable of running Government...

The people of this country are its own worst enemy to continuously re-elect ****ing clowns.

Rich Boy, Posh Boy, Slabs girl, Gino, Misery Gut Coppinger and the lads would do really better I'd say

Wanderer78 · 22-01-2020 2:28pm

Edgware wrote:

Rich Boy, Posh Boy, Slabs girl, Gino, Misery Gut Coppinger and the lads would do really better I'd say

Can't ever see them getting into government, we re not ready for a left leaning government, maybe never

Snow Garden · 22-01-2020 2:58pm

Brexit is such a non issue in this election. People are very bored with it. The polls are saying the same.

I don't think FG have had any influence in how Brexit has panned out.

After Hours Election 2020 poll

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