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Vegans and soil health

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    #62
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    jh79 wrote: »
    Paper doesn't show organic is healthier, unless you can equate the reduced levels to actual health outcomes my claim still stands.

    I'd rather not ingest chemicals if I can avoid it.


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    #63
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I'd rather not ingest chemicals if I can avoid it.

    Even "organic" food has chemicals in it and the amount allowed changes year by year. It's an arbitrary accreditation system, essentially a marketing term with no scientific basis.

    Choosing either isn't gonna have an impact on your health.


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    #64
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,990 ✭✭✭emaherx


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I'd rather not ingest chemicals if I can avoid it.

    I'd completely agree, but organic doesn't mean pesticide free, there are many organic pesticides which can be just as harmful and are often more harmful.

    Would you rather have the synthetic poison or the organic poison sprayed on your food?


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    #65
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    jh79 wrote: »
    Even "organic" food has chemicals in it and the amount allowed changes year by year. It's an arbitrary accreditation system, essentially a marketing term with no scientific basis.

    Choosing either isn't gonna have an impact on your health.

    We buy our food from an organic farm and the quality and taste is amazing compared to the supermarket.

    Intensive farming with liberal use pesticides does equal an inferior product.


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    #66
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    stefanovich wrote: »
    We buy our food from an organic farm and the quality and taste is amazing compared to the supermarket.

    Intensive farming with liberal use pesticides does equal an inferior product.

    But not an healthier product.


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    #67
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    stefanovich wrote: »
    We buy our food from an organic farm and the quality and taste is amazing compared to the supermarket.

    Intensive farming with liberal use pesticides does equal an inferior product.

    I'd agree with you on intensive farming but wouldn't agree the pesticides have any effect on taste / quality.

    A study was done in Denmark years ago with two fields side by side and they found no difference between the two.


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    #68
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    jh79 wrote: »
    But not an healthier product.

    I totally disagree. Less harm is caused to the land, to animals, to the water. No GM crops.


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    #69
    jh79
    Registered Users Posts: 8,216 ✭✭✭jh79


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I totally disagree. Less harm is caused to the land, to animals, to the water. No GM crops.

    Even Golden Rice?


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    #70
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I'd rather not ingest chemicals if I can avoid it.

    That pesky dihydroxy oxide is a killer


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    #71
    emaherx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,990 ✭✭✭emaherx


    ganmo wrote: »
    That pesky dihydroxy oxide is a killer

    Dihydrogen monoxide?
    wrote:

    is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
    contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
    may cause severe burns.
    contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
    accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
    may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
    has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
    Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

    as an industrial solvent and coolant.
    in nuclear power plants.
    in the production of styrofoam.
    as a fire retardant.
    in many forms of cruel animal research.
    in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
    as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

    Terrible stuff but they'll never ban it :D


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