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GLAS Extension

  • 16-12-2020 12:11pm
    #1
    lanod2407
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭


    Anyone getting texts to extend GLAS?


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  • #2
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Yes, got one 20mins ago. Text DAFM Y to extend your contract or DAFM N to opt out. We have 3 days to let them know.
    Edit - link to the new T&C's. I haven't read through it yet.
    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/9133a5-green-low-carbon-agri-environment-scheme-glas/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/green-low-carbon-agri-environment-scheme-glas/#extension-of-glas-1-2-contracts


  • #3
    I says
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭I says


    Base price wrote: »
    Yes, got one 20mins ago. Text DAFM Y to extend your contract or DAFM N to opt out. We have 3 days to let them know.
    Edit - link to the new T&C's. I haven't read through it yet.
    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/9133a5-green-low-carbon-agri-environment-scheme-glas/?referrer=http://www.gov.ie/green-low-carbon-agri-environment-scheme-glas/#extension-of-glas-1-2-contracts

    My eyes glazed over looking at that. Is it continuation of same as previous rules?


  • #4
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Why only 3 days?.....why not the Jan first?


  • #5
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    I says wrote: »
    My eyes glazed over looking at that. Is it continuation of same as previous rules?

    It seems to be, the dept won't allow any amendments to your plan.
    The only difference i see is that if you are losing rented/leased land that was in Glas, your planner can apply for a derogation for you to continue in Glas for next year.


  • #6
    Dunedin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    lanod2407 wrote: »
    Anyone getting texts to extend GLAS?

    Got text today but planner had been in touch already.

    Signed up for another year.


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  • #7
    Micey.ie
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭Micey.ie


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Got text today but planner had been in touch already.

    Signed up for another year.

    Got text today also,it was supposed to be on Agfood too but don’t see anything


  • #8
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    We received a letter from DAFM today with all the details but I haven't had a change to read it yet.


  • #9
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Strange one-I got the text, replied yes. Logged into agfood to extend bdgp and it said confirmed by text today. No sign of glas on my page?


  • #10
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    For anyone who's read above yet, what's the period of extension going to be?will any penalties going forward cover all the previous 5 years?


  • #11
    Aravo
    Registered Users Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Micey.ie wrote: »
    Got text today also,it was supposed to be on Agfood too but don’t see anything

    Same as that. Nothing on agfood. Typical of the dept.


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  • #12
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    ruwithme wrote: »
    For anyone who's read above yet, what's the period of extension going to be?will any penalties going forward cover all the previous 5 years?

    The period of extension is one year to the end of next year.
    I don't know about the penalties, will be talking to my planner in the morning hopefully, might find out then.

    Glas planners seem to be extending the Glas plans for farmers so maybe the option to extend on Agfood dissappears if the planner does it.


  • #13
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The other thing allowed to change is the WBC, that can be moved. Happened to be talking to my Planner on another matter.
    This is good as it was wrong to keep it 5 years on the one piece of land. Another bit of a field that needs improving would suit fine.


  • #14
    TPF2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭TPF2012


    Water John wrote: »
    The other thing allowed to change is the WBC, that can be moved. Happened to be talking to my Planner on another matter.
    This is good as it was wrong to keep it 5 years on the one piece of land. Another bit of a field that needs improving would suit fine.

    I think the WBC can only be moved on Health and Safety grounds from what I seen, could be mistaken though.
    I don't know what constitutes a H&S reason.


  • #15
    Dunedin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    TPF2012 wrote: »
    I think the WBC can only be moved on Health and Safety grounds from what I seen, could be mistaken though.
    I don't know what constitutes a H&S reason.

    Correct, health and safety grounds only. I understand that to be where it was sowed too close to house/yard and vermin (rats) is an issue.


  • #16
    1wizards sleeve
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭1wizards sleeve


    Do you get a reply to say application/text received


  • #17
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    1wizards sleeve wrote: »
    Do you get a reply to say application/text received

    I didn’t anyway


  • #18
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Thinking of pulling out of Glas even though I texted Y. Looks according to the IFJ that they can penalise you and include previous years, even though the Minister said two weeks ago that it wouldn't be that way.
    Also by being in Glas you're excluded from applying to the Pilot REPS.


  • #19
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    Water John wrote: »
    Thinking of pulling out of Glas even though I texted Y. Looks according to the IFJ that they can penalise you and include previous years, even though the Minister said two weeks ago that it wouldn't be that way.
    Also by being in Glas you're excluded from applying to the Pilot REPS.

    If you turn down the Glas extension i don't think you'll be allowed into the pilot REPS scheme and it's a possibility that the current Glas scheme might be rolled over again next year to include 2022 with the new REPS scheme starting in 2023.
    So you could be two years without a scheme.

    This is all guesswork on my part. I think you have until you apply for the ANC next year to pull out of GLAS.


  • #20
    Count Mondego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Rang my advisor about this. He claimed anyone in GLAS will not get into the REPS pilot scheme, so his advise was to stay in it. You can transfer to REPS in 2022 when it's ready.


  • #21
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Count Mondego wrote: »
    Rang my advisor about this. He claimed anyone in GLAS will not get into the REPS pilot scheme, so his advise was to stay in it. You can transfer to REPS in 2022 when it's ready.

    I think that would be the safer option.


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  • #22
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Got the letter, no txt and not showing up on agfood.
    Advisor gave one warning and that was if lipp had heather in it they could penalise for all the years. No idea why heather would be a bad thing


  • #23
    kincaid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭kincaid


    I got one too,

    Was the extension introduced so they can do more inspections next year since they couldn't this year with covid,


  • #24
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    3 days to reply by text,or the 28th or the 31st of the month i think if doing it on ag food.

    I like your thinking on why a extension.


  • #25
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    endainoz wrote: »
    I think that would be the safer option.

    Better the divil you know.


  • #26
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,703 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Is it only people in GLAS 1 that are getting extension text messages?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #27
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Is it only people in GLAS 1 that are getting extension text messages?

    Wasn't GLAS 2 to finish on the same date, if that's the case I'd imagine G2 participants would get it too?


  • #28
    minerleague
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Wasn't GLAS 2 to finish on the same date, if that's the case I'd imagine G2 participants would get it too?

    Yes, replied Y, not sure now, the first offering on new schemes can often be best.
    they changed not going back full 5 years on penalties for glas.


  • #29
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    minerleague wrote: »
    they changed not going back full 5 years on penalties for glas.

    It's a poor reflection on politics and on an individual minister when the line minister gives a clear commitment at an AGM that this won't happen then his dept does a U turn.


  • #30
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭zetor 4911


    1wizards sleeve wrote: »
    Do you get a reply to say application/text received

    No reply sent back. Some of the sent text messages were not received by Department so not registered as applying for the extension. Know of 2 cases where this happened so be careful with the text message route as it is turning into a mess. Best thing to do is contact your advisor he/she may be able to check.


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  • #31
    Western Pomise
    Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    Under what section on Agfood do you check to see if Dept received text response to extend Glas participation for the year?

    Thanks.


  • #32
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭zetor 4911


    Western Pomise wrote: »
    Under what section on Agfood do you check to see if Dept received text response to extend Glas participation for the year?

    Thanks.

    Maybe contact advisor dont think there is a section on agfood


  • #33
    lanod2407
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭lanod2407


    Got original text and replied Yes.
    Got another today and replied again. Got no acknowledgement either time.
    Logged into agfood but couldn't find a link there to extend.

    Any help or pointers appreciated


  • #34
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    lanod2407 wrote: »
    Got original text and replied Yes.
    Got another today and replied again. Got no acknowledgement either time.
    Logged into agfood but couldn't find a link there to extend.

    Any help or pointers appreciated

    Ring your planner in the morning, they should be able to check for you.


  • #35
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    People should be careful with their reply. The correct reply is DAFM Y, not just Y. I know a couple of lads that nearly got caught out


  • #36
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭zetor 4911


    lanod2407 wrote: »
    Got original text and replied Yes.
    Got another today and replied again. Got no acknowledgement either time.
    Logged into agfood but couldn't find a link there to extend.

    Any help or pointers appreciated

    You don't reply YES the correct reply is DAFM Y


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  • #37
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Maybe my phones just old,i got a message delivered report after text was sent.

    So is it open for them to claw back from the previous 5 years for any penalties maybe suffered in this next 12 months?


  • #38
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    farawaygrass wrote: »
    People should be careful with their reply. The correct reply is DAFM Y, not just Y. I know a couple of lads that nearly got caught out

    I replied correctly and got a second text yesterday the same as the first.
    Surely in this day and age the Dept should have replied confirming your reply.


  • #39
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Remember, DAMN Y has a whole different meaning.


  • #40
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Where are the IFA when all this is going on......heads buried in the sand as usual!


  • #41
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Where are the IFA when all this is going on......heads buried in the sand as usual!

    When what's going on?


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  • #42
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ah those people if Glas are under utilising their land and are not real farmers.


  • #43
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Water John wrote: »
    Ah those people if Glas are under utilising their land and are not real farmers.

    Agree, the dept has us all bending over with cap in hand.....


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Water John wrote: »
    Ah those people if Glas are under utilising their land and are not real farmers.

    I bet there isn't a 4wd tractor between them, hobby farmers!


  • #45
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I bet there isn't a 4wd tractor between them, hobby farmers!

    Don't you be casting asperstions on my 7610!


  • #46
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I bet there isn't a 4wd tractor between them, hobby farmers!

    Probably driving antiques from the eighties.....


  • #47
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Probably driving antiques from the eighties.....

    Again wrong, it's 1990 model.


  • #48
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Water John wrote: »
    Again wrong, it's 1990 model.

    A new yoke!


  • #49
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    This thread is only full of fancy feckers with nearly new tractors, like, ones with the new number plate format...
    If ye can’t manage with a 135 ye’re doing it wrong...
    ;):):)


  • #50
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Where are the IFA when all this is going on......heads buried in the sand as usual!

    You didn't answer my question. When what's going on. How are IFAs heads buried in sand?


  • #51
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Well mike as ever with the Department of ag, we've got 3 days from receipt of a text message to reply "y or n". granted a bit longer to do it online. Although anyone on here who's looked,can't seem to find the link box??

    What was issued in a letter last wednesday says alot,while not saying anything at the same time.

    After 5 years of a commitment in a environmental scheme i personally would like more than 3 days to a maximum of 15 to consider rejoining it for a year.

    Especially so when my 2020 glas payment has been withheld after a satellite inspection. I received no correspondence from the Department on this as to whether or not there is a issue needing resolving at my end.

    Thats only the tip of a iceberg for farmers across the country. i don't know if you or bendy are in the ifa,but i am, so i don't mind telling you i agree with bendy on the ifa and head in the sand.


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