The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 2)

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 12:05am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SF brought people together as did the state funeral...both were wrong.

Your issue seems to be more with how ex IRA people are buried (they have been doing it this way for as long as I remember) in which case my advice would be, don't go to an exIRA person's funeral.

If you go to a funeral and ignore guidelines you risk getting and spreading Covid. Some more advice, don't do it.

How many IRA funerals have taken a diversion to someone else’s grave for a rally - when the actual committal involved the body was being cremated a few miles away across the city?

Spin Fein alive on well on here tonight

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 12:06am

blackwhite wrote: »

As suspected - the concept of different degrees of risk - and increasing the risk by holding a needless rally gets ignored because it doesn’t suit your cult :eek:

Throw the toys out of the pram all you want - transparent as always in trying to ignore those inconvenient facts.

Goodnight - and grow up

Outline these different degrees of risk and we'll talk chief. Without them - this is basically you saying "I'm right - you're wrong" but that carries as much weight as a fly's fart.

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 12:08am

McMurphy wrote: »

Outline these different degrees of risk and we'll talk chief.

It’s been done already - but no doubt you’ll ignore it again because it doesn’t suit the cult

The longer people are in close contact, the greater the risk.

Funeral = shorter time taken than funeral plus political rally.

Regardless of how long the funeral took - adding in a political rally added needlessly to the time, and increased the risk for now other reason than a bit of SF self-gratification

It’s been spelt out repeatedly - but you seem more interested in personal digs than dealing with facts.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 12:09am

blackwhite wrote: »

How many IRA funerals have taken a diversion to someone else’s grave for a rally - when the actual committal involved the body was being cremated a few miles away across the city?

Spin Fein alive on well on here tonight

You tell us. How many have?
A graveside oration is given at all ex IRA funerals as far as I know.

It was wrong to hold the event as it was held as was the state funeral.

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 12:16am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You tell us. How many have?
A graveside oration is given at all ex IRA funerals as far as I know.

It was wrong to hold the event as it was held as was the state funeral.

You made the claim that it was normal part of an IRA funeral - so maybe volunteer some evidence to support your claim that it’s traditional for an IRA funeral to divert to someone else’s grave, a few miles from the actual commital for some speeches?

Or were you like Johnny is fond of spewing - posting scutter?

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 12:26am

blackwhite wrote: »

It’s been done already - but no doubt you’ll ignore it again because it doesn’t suit the cult

The longer people are in close contact, the greater the risk.

Funeral = shorter time taken than funeral plus political rally.

Regardless of how long the funeral took - adding in a political rally added needlessly to the time, and increased the risk for now other reason than a bit of SF self-gratification

It’s been spelt out repeatedly - but you seem more interested in personal digs than dealing with facts.

So let's get this straight, have you a detailed analysis on exactly how long this contact timeframe is?

I'm almost certain I seen govt advice about +15 mins being the barometer we should all adhere to

Now, with that in mind, was Garda Horkans funeral over and done with in the recommended 15min timeframe that our health officials have put on record increases infection/spread of covid, or did that happen in let's say (for arguments same) happen in 15 mins and 02 seconds?

You don't have a leg to stand on here really, and what's especially funny to me is - I suspect you know that.

Dizzy yet?

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 12:27am

blackwhite wrote: »

You made the claim that it was normal part of an IRA funeral - so maybe volunteer some evidence to support your claim that it’s traditional for an IRA funeral to divert to someone else’s grave, a few miles from the actual commital for some speeches?

Or were you like Johnny is fond of spewing - posting scutter?

Who said it was somebody else's grave?

A graveside oration is traditional at many funerals...including ex IRA members funerals. I presume his ashes were to be interred there.

11-09-2020 12:28am

Hilarious back and forth lads, keep the comedy rolling.

I note that Leo had trouble fielding an awkward question about Covid clusters in meat factories, when a coherent explanation isn't forthcoming...have a look over there at all those Shinners congregated at that funeral. Not the first time he's leaned on the "blame others to deflect from my own failings" tactic, he must have SF tattooed on his brain from all the petty point scoring. Party politics Leo, insincere outrage is nothing but a picnic basket stranded in the park.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 12:31am

Deleted User wrote: »

Hilarious back and forth lads, keep the comedy rolling.

I note that Leo had trouble fielding an awkward question about Covid clusters in meat factories, when a coherent explanation isn't forthcoming...have a look over there at all those Shinners congregated at that funeral. Not the first time he's leaned on the "blame others to deflect from my own failings" tactic, he must have SF tattooed on his brain from all the petty point scoring. Party politics Leo, insincere outrage is nothing but a picnic basket stranded in the park.

He inherited Enda's playbook in that regard.

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 12:39am

McMurphy wrote: »

So let's get this straight, have you a detailed analysis on exactly how long this contact timeframe is?

I'm almost certain I seen govt advice about +15 mins being the barometer we should all adhere to

Now, with that in mind, was Garda Horkans funeral over and done with in the recommended 15min timeframe that our health officials have put on record increases infection/spread of covid, or did that happen in let's say (for arguments same) happen in 15 mins and 02 seconds?

You don't have a leg to stand on here really, and what's especially funny to me is - I suspect you know that.

Dizzy yet?

And again - the wilful dishonesty drips off the post. Only an idiot or a liar would try to pretend that needlessly adding a 45 minute exposure doesn’t add any additional risks. It really shows the Trumpian levels of dishonesty that the SF fanboys will stoop to when defending the party’s transgressions.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html

An equation so simple that even the average SF voter might be able to understand

Erin Bromage, a comparative immunologist and professor of biology at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, summed it up with a short and sweet equation: "Successful Infection = Exposure to Virus x Time."

Did the political rally needlessly add to the exposure time around the Storey funeral? It’s a simple question - but I guess it’s beyond any SF acolytes to acknowledge it honestly if it might hurt the party line.

Did the funeral for Garda Horkan include any unnecessary diversions to have a rally and extend the time?

Holding the rally needlessly increased the risks - over and beyond what simply holding the funeral would have done.

(And that’s before we get into the busloads of “activists” that SF dragged up to Belfast from across the island - maybe that’s what’s touched a nerve with the cheerleaders on here?)

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 12:47am

blackwhite wrote: »

And again - the wilful dishonesty drips off the post. Only an idiot or a liar would try to pretend that needlessly adding a 45 minute exposure doesn’t add any additional risks. It really shows the Trumpian levels of dishonesty that the SF fanboys will stoop to when defending the party’s transgressions.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html

An equation so simple that even the average SF voter might be able to understand

Did the political rally needlessly add to the exposure time around the Storey funeral? It’s a simple question - but I guess it’s beyond any SF acolytes to acknowledge it honestly if it might hurt the party line.

Did the funeral for Garda Horkan include any unnecessary diversions to have a rally and extend the time?

Holding the rally needlessly increased the risks - over and beyond what simply holding the funeral would have done.

(And that’s before we get into the busloads of “activists” that SF dragged up to Belfast from across the island - maybe that’s what’s touched a nerve with the cheerleaders on here?)

Both events ignored guidelines = equals both events were wrong. Only one has caused outrage for some though and some pointless waffle about exposure time...because we have to have some reason to be up on the hypocritical higher moral ground.
Classic example of it, blackwhite.

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 12:53am

Simple question Francie - which is riskier?

A funeral, or a funeral plus a diversion for a rally?

No whataboutery or dishonesty - just answer the question (chance would be a fine thing :rolleyes:)

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 1:03am

blackwhite wrote: »

Simple question Francie - which is riskier?

A funeral, or a funeral plus a diversion for a rally?

No whataboutery or dishonesty - just answer the question (chance would be a fine thing :rolleyes:)

Both were funerals BW both were risky when guidelines were ignored. That one had a graveside oration gets your knickers in a twist, is your problem. You cannot help let your hypocrisy shine.

My opinion is that they both broke guidelines.
I didn't complain about one because I had empathy with the fact somebody was being buried and respects were being paid to him.

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 1:11am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Both were funerals BW both were risky when guidelines were ignored. That one had a graveside oration gets your knickers in a twist, is your problem. You cannot help let your hypocrisy shine.

My opinion is that they both broke guidelines.
I didn't complain about one because I had empathy with the fact somebody was being buried and respects were being paid to him.

First time I’ve heard of a “funeral” diverting to someone else’s grave - in a different graveyard to the actual commital - in order to hold a political rally.

Still waiting for some evidence to back up your claim that this was “normal” for “as long as you can remember”.
Keep defending the indefensible Francie

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 1:42am

blackwhite wrote: »

First time I’ve heard of a “funeral” diverting to someone else’s grave - in a different graveyard to the actual commital - in order to hold a political rally.

Still waiting for some evidence to back up your claim that this was “normal” for “as long as you can remember”.
Keep defending the indefensible Francie

I have already clarified what I said was 'normal' practice. And asked you to tell us who said it was 'somebody else's grave'.
I understood it was to be his grave after the cremation.

Belfast Telegraph wrote:

The Belfast Telegraph understands, however, that instead of being interred at the cemetery's republican plot at that time, Mr Storey's remains were instead transported to Roselawn, where they were cremated later on Tuesday afternoon.
It is also understood that the veteran former IRA leader's ashes were due to be returned to close family to be subsequently brought back to Milltown some time later.

markodaly · 11-09-2020 1:49am

McMurphy wrote: »

I obviously missed it being debunked many times.

I'm all ears now though.

https://fstoppers.com/news/are-telephoto-lenses-creating-fake-news-people-ignoring-social-distancing-481758

I posted this before, yet you ignore it.
You always ignore evidence you do not like. Funny that!

markodaly · 11-09-2020 2:01am

blackwhite wrote: »

Simple question Francie - which is riskier?

A funeral, or a funeral plus a diversion for a rally?

No whataboutery or dishonesty - just answer the question (chance would be a fine thing :rolleyes:)

There were thousands more at the Bobby Storey SF 'carnival' than the funeral for Garda Harkin.

People bend over backwards trying to equate the two as the exact same when it wasn't.

That is not even talking about one being a Garda and the other being a common criminal and a serial abuser of women.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 2:11am

markodaly wrote: »

There were thousands more at the Bobby Storey SF 'carnival' than the funeral for Garda Harkin.

People bend over backwards trying to equate the two as the exact same when it wasn't.

That is not even talking about one being a Garda and the other being a common criminal and a serial abuser of women.

the ignoring of guidelines was the same. Covid does not have political preferences as far as I know.

Both funerals were wrong in respect of covid.

markodaly · 11-09-2020 2:15am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

the ignoring of guidelines was the same. Covid does not have political preferences as far as I know.

Both funerals were wrong in respect of covid.

Then where is the resignation of MoN?

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 2:21am

markodaly wrote: »

Then where is the resignation of MoN?

I didn't call for anybody's resignation for ignoring guidelines. I don't think she needs to.

Blanch disappeared when I asked him to point to a post where he called for resignations of anybody not in SF...can you point to a post of yours calling on others to resign (before they did obviously...easy to claim you agree when they have done it...suits your spiel if you get my drift)

maccored · 11-09-2020 2:22am

blackwhite wrote: »

And again - the wilful dishonesty drips off the post. Only an idiot or a liar would try to pretend that needlessly adding a 45 minute exposure doesn’t add any additional risks. It really shows the Trumpian levels of dishonesty that the SF fanboys will stoop to when defending the party’s transgressions.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html

An equation so simple that even the average SF voter might be able to understand

Did the political rally needlessly add to the exposure time around the Storey funeral? It’s a simple question - but I guess it’s beyond any SF acolytes to acknowledge it honestly if it might hurt the party line.

Did the funeral for Garda Horkan include any unnecessary diversions to have a rally and extend the time?

Holding the rally needlessly increased the risks - over and beyond what simply holding the funeral would have done.

(And that’s before we get into the busloads of “activists” that SF dragged up to Belfast from across the island - maybe that’s what’s touched a nerve with the cheerleaders on here?)

was the garda's funeral longer than 15 mins - thats what you were asked by McMurphy. I didnt see an answer to that there.

Did you forget to answer or did the whataboutery muscle just kick in?

markodaly · 11-09-2020 2:26am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I didn't call for anybody's resignation for ignoring guidelines. I don't think she needs to.

Oh you didn't call of it, so we are grand so.
I guess your point of view in this regards reigns supreme as well!

Besides the fact that SF were calling on others to resign over golfgate, yet they themselves wont. Funny that.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 2:31am

markodaly wrote: »

Oh you didn't call of it, so we are grand so.
I guess your point of view in this regards reigns supreme as well!

Besides the fact that SF were calling on others to resign over golfgate, yet they themselves wont. Funny that.

No post of yours calling for others to resign I notice...did you forget? Plenty of posts calling for the Shinners to resign though. That'd be hypocrisy Mark.

Hogan was called on to resign because he told blatant lies and was caught out again and again telling them.

Who else did SF call on to resign for breaking guidelines? I only heard them call it an 'error of judgement'.

markodaly · 11-09-2020 2:38am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No post of yours calling for others to resign I notice...did you forget? Plenty of posts calling for the Shinners to resign though. That'd be hypocrisy Mark.

Hogan was called on to resign because he told blatant lies and was caught out again and again telling them.

Who else did SF call on to resign for breaking guidelines? I only heard them call it an 'error of judgement'.

I love the determination you have in trying to personalise everything Francie, between me, Blanch and whomever....

My point was that SF as a party were jumping up and down about golfgate, asking for a whole host of resignations, yet MoN admits that the Funeral of a common criminal damaged the health response in NI, yet SF are quiet as a mouse when it comes to their own rules and standards.....

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 2:44am

markodaly wrote: »

I love the determination you have in trying to personalise everything Francie, between me, Blanch and whomever....

My point was that SF as a party were jumping up and down about golfgate, asking for a whole host of resignations, yet MoN admits that the Funeral of a common criminal damaged the health response in NI, yet SF are quiet as a mouse when it comes to their own rules and standards.....

The whole country was jumping up and down about golfgate Mark...did you not notice? It consumed the media and discourse for over a week.

SF admitted that the funeral caused upset and concern at the time and apologised for it. Same as those at golfgate did and it was accepted by mostly everybody.

Hogan the arrogant FGer complicated things though with lies and being found out and more lies etc. The Taoiseach and Taniste's initial responses didn't help either, Leo didn't even mention Hogan in his first comment.

Your ire should be directed where it belongs to be honest. You guys lost heavily because of how you handled it mainly...Hogan in particular.

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 7:45am

blackwhite wrote: »

And again - the wilful dishonesty drips off the post. Only an idiot or a liar would try to pretend that needlessly adding a 45 minute exposure doesn’t add any additional risks. It really shows the Trumpian levels of dishonesty that the SF fanboys will stoop to when defending the party’s transgressions.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html

An equation so simple that even the average SF voter might be able to understand

Did the political rally needlessly add to the exposure time around the Storey funeral? It’s a simple question - but I guess it’s beyond any SF acolytes to acknowledge it honestly if it might hurt the party line.

Did the funeral for Garda Horkan include any unnecessary diversions to have a rally and extend the time?

Holding the rally needlessly increased the risks - over and beyond what simply holding the funeral would have done.

(And that’s before we get into the busloads of “activists” that SF dragged up to Belfast from across the island - maybe that’s what’s touched a nerve with the cheerleaders on here?)

Sounds quite a personal insult to me, but let's park that for the minute and move on to your shifted position which now seems to be time focused.

I've already asked you, but you didn't acknowledge the question. Official NPHET advice I have seen is anyone in the company of others for +15 minutes increases their risks of contracting covid 19, and or possibly infecting others around them.

With that in mind - Mourners at Garda Horkans funeral, and that of Bobby Storeys (including Sinn Fein representatives, members of AGS and FG ministers and TDs) were all seen flouting social distancing guidelines, some not wearing masks - I had no stopwatch timing either event but by the looks of the throngs of mourners lining the streets - both most likely went on for a longer period of the 15minutes advice I've been reading about.

Covid doesn't care the purpose of either mass congregation, nor the political allegiance of those in attendance, this has been covered already.

Have you posts on this site castigating anyone for attending the Garda funeral, and if not why not? I haven't and never did - which is why I'm not a hypocrite.

Discuss.

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 8:01am

markodaly wrote: »

https://fstoppers.com/news/are-telephoto-lenses-creating-fake-news-people-ignoring-social-distancing-481758

I posted this before, yet you ignore it.
You always ignore evidence you do not like. Funny that!

I remember you posting it, (a random link pulled out of your nether regions) and I also remember you getting rightfully laughed out of it.

You were implying a savvy photographer took a photo of two FG representatives who were sitting on a "10ft long bench" and made them appear only inches apart.

Photoshopped everything that day did they?

Bishop of hope · 11-09-2020 8:10am

McMurphy wrote: »

Sounds quite a personal insult to me, but let's park that for the minute and move on to your shifted position which now seems to be time focused.

I've already asked you, but you didn't acknowledge the question. Official NPHET advice I have seen is anyone in the company of others for +15 minutes increases their risks of contracting covid 19, and or possibly infecting others around them.

With that in mind - Mourners at Garda Horkans funeral, and that of Bobby Storeys (including Sinn Fein representatives, members of AGS and FG ministers and TDs) were all seen flouting social distancing guidelines, some not wearing masks - I had no stopwatch timing either event but by the looks of the throngs of mourners lining the streets - both most likely went on for a longer period of the 15minutes advice I've been reading about.

Covid doesn't care the purpose of either mass congregation, nor the political allegiance of those in attendance, this has been covered already.

Have you posts on this site castigating anyone for attending the Garda funeral, and if not why not? I haven't and never did - which is why I'm not a hypocrite.

Discuss.

Done to death Mc.
You're SF arse licking posts and innuendo about FG and others while saying nothing are legendary.
Nothing to see here

blanch152 · 11-09-2020 8:47am

McMurphy wrote: »

What is this sh1t

Take bullsh1t like the above to moderators or admin, I've absolutely the square root of nothing of interest to your BS conspiracy theories, sorry but I'm all out of sugarcoating.

You posted scutter - I called it out, when you've some evidence (from esteemed folk) that details how covid can differentiate between a Garda funeral, and that of a member of a political party you dislike we'll discuss it, otherwise pm me something of interest.

Thank you and goodnight.

McMurphy wrote: »

Sounds quite a personal insult to me, but let's park that for the minute and move on to your shifted position which now seems to be time focused.

Seems like you are describing your own posts.

blackwhite wrote: »

And again - the wilful dishonesty drips off the post. Only an idiot or a liar would try to pretend that needlessly adding a 45 minute exposure doesn’t add any additional risks.

Protect the leader and the party at all costs, that is the mantra. It is more wilful dishonesty than idiocy that sees the all-out defence being mounted.

The reality is that the Storey funeral will stay in the headlines because the inquiries are ongoing and the arrogant SF politicians didn't resign over it.

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 9:18am

McMurphy wrote: »

Sounds quite a personal insult to me, but let's park that for the minute and move on to your shifted position which now seems to be time focused.

I've already asked you, but you didn't acknowledge the question. Official NPHET advice I have seen is anyone in the company of others for +15 minutes increases their risks of contracting covid 19, and or possibly infecting others around them.

With that in mind - Mourners at Garda Horkans funeral, and that of Bobby Storeys (including Sinn Fein representatives, members of AGS and FG ministers and TDs) were all seen flouting social distancing guidelines, some not wearing masks - I had no stopwatch timing either event but by the looks of the throngs of mourners lining the streets - both most likely went on for a longer period of the 15minutes advice I've been reading about.

Covid doesn't care the purpose of either mass congregation, nor the political allegiance of those in attendance, this has been covered already.

Have you posts on this site castigating anyone for attending the Garda funeral, and if not why not? I haven't and never did - which is why I'm not a hypocrite.

Discuss.

Keep on strawmanning McM. The desperation to defend the cult at all costs is obvious. It seems honesty is an alien concept to the SF fan club when it comes to the actions of their dear leaders and all their colleagues that were bussed in from far and wide.

My point - from the beginning - is that needlessly increasing the time of exposures by holding a political rally was needlessly increasing the risk. I haven’t shifted from that once - despite the mistruths that you want to peddle claiming otherwise. Keep on dancing around it all you want to deflect from that point - all you’re doing is showing yourself up again.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 9:31am

blackwhite wrote: »

Keep on strawmanning McM. The desperation to defend the cult at all costs is obvious. It seems honesty is an alien concept to the SF fan club when it comes to the actions of their dear leaders and all their colleagues that were bussed in from far and wide.

My point - from the beginning - is that needlessly increasing the time of exposures by holding a political rally was needlessly increasing the risk. I haven’t shifted from that once - despite the mistruths that you want to peddle claiming otherwise. Keep on dancing around it all you want to deflect from that point - all you’re doing is showing yourself up again.

Jaysus...again...WHO is defending?

I see clear criticism of both events.

I see noted defenders of FG trying to slither FG out of any blame.

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 9:34am

blanch152 wrote: »

Seems like you are describing your own posts.

Telling someone they're posting scutter and talking bs is attacking the substance of their post, implying someone is an idiot/liar is attacking the poster - a distinct difference.

Protect the leader and the party at all costs, that is the mantra. It is more wilful dishonesty than idiocy that sees the all-out defence being mounted.

The reality is that the Storey funeral will stay in the headlines because the inquiries are ongoing and the arrogant SF politicians didn't resign over it.

You mean the posts where I say the mourners were wrong in their breaking of social distancing at both funerals - but never called on anyone from members of the Gardai, to FG representatives, and all the way through to SF Reps to resign or be sacked?

You have been asked repeatedly, but never did give s definitive answer as to why you think Sinn Fein representatives should be sacked or resign for breaking the same guidelines as the aforementioned Garda members, or FG Ministers.

Fancy taking a go at it this morning?

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 9:40am

blackwhite wrote: »

Keep on strawmanning McM. The desperation to defend the cult at all costs is obvious. It seems honesty is an alien concept to the SF fan club when it comes to the actions of their dear leaders and all their colleagues that were bussed in from far and wide.

My point - from the beginning - is that needlessly increasing the time of exposures by holding a political rally was needlessly increasing the risk. I haven’t shifted from that once - despite the mistruths that you want to peddle claiming otherwise. Keep on dancing around it all you want to deflect from that point - all you’re doing is showing yourself up again.

So by that logic - Garda Horkans funeral and the throngs of mourners lining the streets, congregating by the thousands was needlessly increasing the risk?

Discuss.

blanch152 · 11-09-2020 9:50am

McMurphy wrote: »

So by that logic - Garda Horkans funeral and the throngs of mourners lining the streets, congregating by the thousands was needlessly increasing the risk?

Discuss.

You still don't get it.

Funerals are not the same as political rallies, concerts or sporting events. The fake funeral was a political rally.

Even Mary-Lou has said that funerals are different.

The fact that you won't acknowledge the difference between a genuine funeral and a political rally disguised as a fake funeral says it all.

blanch152 · 11-09-2020 9:51am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jaysus...again...WHO is defending?

I see clear criticism of both events.

I see noted defenders of FG trying to slither FG out of any blame.

So you want Michelle O'Neill and Mary-Lou McDonald to follow the example of Dara Calleary and resign for breaching social distancing guidelines?

Or do you think Dara Calleary was wrong to resign?

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 9:58am

blanch152 wrote: »

So you want Michelle O'Neill and Mary-Lou McDonald to follow the example of Dara Calleary and resign for breaching social distancing guidelines?

Or do you think Dara Calleary was wrong to resign?

I didn't call for his or anyone else who broke guidelines to resign.

I didn't criticise the Garda funeral specifically because it was a funeral.

There was no difference in the two events...both broke guidelines...only one has caused outrage among a certain set.

As you are a fervent believer that people in responsible positions should resign for breaking guidelines, any chance you can show us one of your posts calling for a resignation of anyone other than a shinner (before they actually did resign). I

blackwhite · 11-09-2020 10:04am

McMurphy wrote: »

So by that logic - Garda Horkans funeral and the throngs of mourners lining the streets, congregating by the thousands was needlessly increasing the risk?

Discuss.

Holding a large-scale funeral for anyone both then, and now, is a big risk.

Deciding to have a diversion to hold a political rally mid-way through one of them, adds further risk on top of what’s already been done.

Only one of the two funerals had the organisers compound the risk by organising a rally midway through it - and only the most dishonest of the SF acolytes will try to pretend there was no difference between the two.

No surprise that McM and his fellow travellers will pretend that there’s no such thing as degrees of risk if it might reflect badly on the party.

SF ahead of country, island and people is, as always, what we see from their fanatics on here.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 10:09am

blackwhite wrote: »

SF ahead of country, island and people is, as always, what we see from their fanatics on here.

Whoa whoa there horse, are we forgetting Clifden already? The whole country was consumed in anger for over a week because it was quite clear that a certain set seen themselves as 'ahead and above' everybody else.

Hard for you to accept but them's the facts.

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 10:29am

blanch152 wrote: »

You still don't get it.

Funerals are not the same as political rallies, concerts or sporting events. The fake funeral was a political rally.

Even Mary-Lou has said that funerals are different.

The fact that you won't acknowledge the difference between a genuine funeral and a political rally disguised as a fake funeral says it all.

No blanch, you don't seem "to get it".

How does covid (a virus) know to distinguish the difference in a "political rally" - a funeral - a sporting event or a Daniel O'Donell concert

rdwight · 11-09-2020 10:54am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Are you telling me you have never been to a funeral were after the funeral there isn't some jovial meeting and greeting of people? You haven't been to an Irish funeral if that's the case.

rdwight wrote: »

Not where selfies were involved. And certainly not during the Covid lockdown

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How would you know?
.

Ah Francie, stop digging.

I can honestly say I've never seen a selfie taken at a funeral. I probably only attend 6 or 7 funerals a year. I realise that might make me somewhat less than patriotic.

I've also never attended a funeral where the coffin went to a crematorium and the funeral goers went to graveyard in a different direction But hey, I admit I've never thought to investigate: maybe people at funerals having been sneaking around the corner for selfies and holding rallies at graveyards unbeknownst to me.

FrancieBrady · 11-09-2020 11:00am

rdwight wrote: »

Ah Francie, stop digging.

I can honestly say I've never seen a selfie taken at a funeral. I probably only attend 6 or 7 funerals a year. I realise that might make me somewhat less than patriotic.

I've also never attended a funeral where the coffin went to a crematorium and the funeral goers went to graveyard in a different direction But hey, I admit I've never thought to investigate: maybe people at funerals having been sneaking around the corner for selfies and holding rallies at graveyards unbeknownst to me.

Oh right...we are ignoring it was the funeral of a political party member and former member of the IRA...who have been burying people with graveside orations at the republican plot for decades.

Okie Doke. I get you.

Also let's ignore the FACT that people are not dressed in sackcloth and visibly in mourning all the time when attending funerals in Ireland. Or that sometimes the opportunity to meet old friends and family members you haven't seen in a while might allow you to smile and enjoy some craic.

Dear oh dear RD. All you had to do was accept that people are human. Michelle knew the selfie was wrong and apologised for it.

rdwight · 11-09-2020 11:04am

Never mind resigning, Michelle O'Neill was content to absent herself from her leadership role at Covid briefings for two months rather than give the lamest of apologies necessary to resume her duties.

Once again, SF priority is intransigence over community welfare: cf. absenting themselves for 3 years from Stormont over a shifting list of issues none of which they made substantive progress on.

atticu · 11-09-2020 11:12am

McMurphy wrote: »

Telling someone they're posting scutter and talking bs is attacking the substance of their post, implying someone is an idiot/liar is attacking the poster - a distinct difference.

Can you please explain to me if you think telling a poster to ‘think before they hit the submit button’ is attacking the substance of a post, or attacking the poster?

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 11:18am

atticu wrote: »

Can you please explain to me if you think telling a poster to ‘think before they hit the submit button’ is attacking the substance of a post, or attacking the poster?

Can you please explain to me how it would be "an attack" on either

markodaly · 11-09-2020 11:23am

McMurphy wrote: »

I remember you posting it, (a random link pulled out of your nether regions) and I also remember you getting rightfully laughed out of it.

You were implying a savvy photographer took a photo of two FG representatives who were sitting on a "10ft long bench" and made them appear only inches apart.

Photoshopped everything that day did they?

Clearly you know nothing about photography or even read the article. In it, it says, correctly that using any type of telephoto lens to take an image compresses it and makes it appear that people are much closer together then they actually are.

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Buzzfeed also did an article about this.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/joeydurso/coronavirus-social-distancing-lockdown-photos

Yeah_Right · 11-09-2020 11:24am

McMurphy wrote: »

I'm pretty sure a funeral is deemed essential, no matter who the person was that it's being held for, the fact you have a fairly unhealthy obsession over the political party the deceased was a member of is irrelevant.

Essential you say. How many families were prevented from attending the funerals of their loved ones on the day that the SF cult farewelled the terrorist Bobby Storey? I guess those funerals weren't essential. Obviously they weren't "good republicans".

markodaly · 11-09-2020 11:25am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Your ire should be directed where it belongs to be honest. You guys lost heavily because of how you handled it mainly...Hogan in particular.

You guys? What is this? Some sort of team rivalry or something like that?
Does that thus make you a SF member?

atticu · 11-09-2020 11:34am

McMurphy wrote: »

Can you please explain to me how it would be "an attack" on either

Well, it is great to know that you won’t take any offence when it is directed at you.

McMurphy · 11-09-2020 11:36am

atticu wrote: »

Well, it is great to know that you won’t take any offence when it is directed at you.

That's not an answer to the question you were asked, but anyway that the norm.

rdwight · 11-09-2020 11:40am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Oh right...we are ignoring it was the funeral of a political party member and former member of the IRA...who have been burying people with graveside orations at the republican plot for decades.

Okie Doke. I get you.

Also let's ignore the FACT that people are not dressed in sackcloth and visibly in mourning all the time when attending funerals in Ireland. Or that sometimes the opportunity to meet old friends and family members you haven't seen in a while might allow you to smile and enjoy some craic.

Dear oh dear RD. All you had to do was accept that people are human. Michelle knew the selfie was wrong and apologised for it.

Eh Francie, I think that's actually the point people have been making. SF were happy to facilitate a politicised funeral with all the usual trappings and orations in the middle of a pandemic.

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