New Met Éireann Website (beta)

27-03-2018 7:46am

Is there a way to play the rainfall radar or rainfall forecast faster?

I like the mobile site. Scroll through and all the info I usually look at is there. No back and forward and switching to the main site for short range for cast. I liked the much simpler map for the short rang forcast.

octo · 27-03-2018 8:27am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I like the csv download of current observations, but is there any API for historical data? Perhaps another way to retrieve machine readable current conditions for a specific location?

How about here? https://beta.met.ie/climate/available-data/historical-data

Villain · 27-03-2018 8:39am

Has anyone managed to find the equivalent of http://www.met.ie/forecasts/3hour.asp and http://www.met.ie/forecasts/5day-ireland.asp on the beta site ?

Pangea · 27-03-2018 10:02am

Nice site, I like the new rainfall radar.

sryanbruen · 27-03-2018 10:23am

Villain wrote: »

Has anyone managed to find the equivalent of http://www.met.ie/forecasts/3hour.asp and http://www.met.ie/forecasts/5day-ireland.asp on the beta site ?

The closest to the 5 day forecasts I know is these on the home page though there are no wave depth forecasts:

hatrickpatrick · 27-03-2018 11:21am

Have the classic "Atlantic Charts" graphics been removed altogether in the new version, or am I just not finding them?

These ones -

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Larbre34 · 27-03-2018 11:37am

This site will obviously be easier to replicate in Mobile or Touch version, but for me the Web version is too long and too cluttered for a good Ux

Gaoth Laidir · 27-03-2018 12:27pm

I love that you now have webcams on the new site, though only Malin Head is working at the moment.

SleetAndSnow · 27-03-2018 12:30pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

I love that you now have webcams on the new site, though only Malin Head is working at the moment.

they all look to be working for me

blue5000 · 27-03-2018 12:56pm

I like the site, had a quick look, rainfall radar is a big improvement with the zoom. But I just wish we had better weather now:(.

Danno · 27-03-2018 1:41pm

On the https://beta.met.ie/latest-reports/observations page, please put in dew point plus wet bulb temps and also stop rounding figures, please display 7.2c or whatever the current temperature is.

Would also like to see a map representation of current conditions similar to www.xcweather.co.uk

Comhrá · 27-03-2018 2:09pm

I find those purple lines (territorial sea limits?) around the map of Ireland, Wales & Isle Of Man give the radar display an over-complicated appearance, along with those lines showing the motorways of Ireland. I feel the display would be clearer and easier to observe without them.

BlackWizard · 27-03-2018 5:42pm

I like the motorways of Ireland on the map. Maybe it helps people who don't live in the big cities to visualize when the big blue blob will hit them. I know they can zoom in, but I still like the format. They are using OpenStreetMaps which will hopefully be used more by organizations. Maps should be free for everyone.

Gaoth Laidir · 27-03-2018 5:48pm

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

they all look to be working for me

On Edge they weren't all working but I checked on Chrome and they are.

sryanbruen · 27-03-2018 7:00pm

Met Éireann's response to my post on their Facebook:

Hi Sryan! Many thanks for your compliments and comments both here and on Boards.ie. Thanks for spotting the Dublin link, it has been removed. The radars show all types of precipitation but it doesn't distinguish between rain/snow/hail. An internal Harmonie IBL forecast model chart shows rain/snow/graupel and is sometimes posted on Twitter during an event. We will take on board your radar comments and the production of more NWP, marine analysis, 3 hour forecast maps and temperature detail. From all the comments from here, Boards.ie and the feedback forms we have plenty of suggestions to collate and distribute internally for consideration. And the site is still in development. Products in the Climate Available Data section will have an overhaul in the coming months.

sryanbruen · 27-03-2018 10:11pm

On the weather extremes page, it says that the highest maximum gust for August (since 1942) is 144km/hr at Claremorris on the 11th in 1999.

http://beta.met.ie/climate/weather-extreme-records

The monthly weather bulletin for August 1999 says for the 11th that there was light southeasterly winds. Not to mention, the largest gust that month was 52mph recorded at Malin Head.

https://cli.fusio.net/cli/bulletin/monsums/clim-1999-Aug.pdf

The reanalysis chart by NCEP also shows southeasterly winds.

gabeeg · 27-03-2018 11:57pm

Much, much better obviously.

A few of things:

1. The weekly forecast given on the homepage needs a better title - is it national or regional? No idea.

2. It wasn't obvious to me that the weekly forecast scrolled horizontally. I think the problem is that the grid you've used for the scrolling area aligns too well with with the containing page. Use a marginally different column width and some of the content will spill off the edge, prompting the user to investigate.
Same pattern is used for mobile all the time.

3. The title "Available Data" prompted me to wonder whether there might be a page with "Unavailable Data" somewhere

Overall it's a big step forward. I think you could be a little bolder with the header, but it's nice, clean and navigable.
I just hope you keep developing it rather than let it grow old ungracefully again.

28-03-2018 8:49am

I think your temperature colour stretch should be selectable. It covers -20 to +38c which covers all eventualities but most of the time the temperature is between 0 and 25c and somedays only varies by a couple of degrees in coastal areas.

The temperature map is very interesting - any information on how its calculated - does it take altitude/exposure/wind direction into account?

pad199207 · 30-03-2018 12:00pm

Testing the new radar here at the moment with a heavy shower. The Radar is very good

highdef · 30-03-2018 12:19pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Testing the new radar here at the moment with a heavy shower. The Radar is very good

Whilst the coverage and detailing seems to be quite good, the ability to toggle forward and back seems to gone, at least in a user friendly manner via forwards/backwards buttons.

Also, while playing the loop,I would love to be able to select the speed of the animation.

pad199207 · 30-03-2018 12:21pm

highdef wrote: »

Whilst the coverage and detailing seems to be quite good, the ability to toggle forward and back seems to gone, at least in a user friendly manner via forwards/backwards buttons.

Also, while playing the loop,I would love to be able to select the speed of the animation.

Yeah those additional features would be really useful, also if the map would refresh itself instead of you having to do it therefore it zooms back out again.

piuswal · 31-03-2018 12:50am

ME,

How about displaying wind speeds in km/h as well as knots in order to tie in with the various wind warnings!

Comhrá · 31-03-2018 9:00pm

Both current radar displays seem to show different intensities of rainfall. These two screenshots were taken at the same time. New display could do with more distinct shading for the different precip intensity

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pad199207 · 31-03-2018 9:41pm

Yeah the new radar uses the Belfast radar too

Discodog · 03-04-2018 1:43pm

I use the site a lot as I work outdoors. I have the existing radar on a bookmark & refer to it several times a day.

I don't like the look of the new radar. It's cluttered & awkward on mobile. I will need to try it on the computer & see if I can bookmark a simple radar page.

Edit. Is there any way to get a full page radar image on the phone?

muckwarrior · 03-04-2018 5:20pm

Love the new site, a big improvement.

Couple of improvements I'd like to see:
- It would be nice to be able to link directly to the different map types, e.g. Rainfall Forecast, Temperature etc. Bonus points for being able to link to a specific time on the map!
- On mobile the map type dropdown is off screen, below the map. Above the map would make more sense IMO

pad199207 · 03-04-2018 5:57pm

Discodog wrote: »

I use the site a lot as I work outdoors. I have the existing radar on a bookmark & refer to it several times a day.

I don't like the look of the new radar. It's cluttered & awkward on mobile. I will need to try it on the computer & see if I can bookmark a simple radar page.

Edit. Is there any way to get a full page radar image on the phone?

Id say when they move over the new site to the Mobile App id say that will fix the awkward element to the radar.

pauldry · 03-04-2018 9:01pm

I have a radar App on my phone called Ireland Weather which I use and find excellent.

On Android playstore and developed by Leon Calcutt.

I don't like weather apps but this one and netweathers snow radar one are top notch

piuswal · 05-04-2018 2:37pm

Are there any pressure charts and upper level charts?

If so, where?

Meteorite58 · 05-04-2018 4:38pm

Overall I think the new site is progressive and moving in the right direction. Clear layout , easy to use and a few nice additions. Would like to see the rainfall radar look a bit sharper, more defined colouring perhaps but the 5 min intervals is welcome, the background map is fine to me, I think it is good seeing a few landmarks be they roads or towns etc.

Nice having the National and Regional forecasts side by side on the PC. The forecast graphics from the NWP models are very good also. The local forecast should be a useful function for many also.

Like the Buoy map and data layout. Also very much like the current observations and yesterdays weather, great having the hourly data.

Now only need to add a webcam to Valentia

Well done Met Eireann.

Jpmarn · 07-04-2018 9:49am

Met Eireann has promised new apps for Andriod and IOS to come out with the new website. I don't like their existing apps or mobile website.

AndrewJRenko · 07-04-2018 2:56pm

Jpmarn wrote: »

Met Eireann has promised new apps for Andriod and IOS to come out with the new website. I don't like their existing apps or mobile website.

Please tell me they're not investing in seperate apps for seperate platforms. The UK Govt has the right idea;

Don't build apps; https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/technology/working-with-mobile-technology

And more recently;

https://gdstechnology.blog.gov.uk/2018/03/26/progressive-web-apps-bring-us-new-mobile-opportunities/

Black_Knight · 08-04-2018 3:41pm

https://beta.met.ie/api/maps/temperature
is returning 500 responses to me, without anything obvious being shown on screen. Some better error feedback would be nice there.

08-04-2018 4:45pm

Working OK for me.

pad199207 · 16-04-2018 11:27am

Beta site is finished now and new website will be launched on Wednesday. I wonder what added features they will have put in through feedback.

Discodog · 16-04-2018 11:29am

Will they still keep the old site running? I greatly prefer the old radar.

pauldry · 16-04-2018 11:48am

Me too.

An odd change here and there but no need for expansive overhaul.

Comhrá · 16-04-2018 1:33pm

Same here. I feel the older radar is far easier to look at and interpret.

I really don't like the new radar presentation at all...too much unnecessary distracting features unrelated to precipitation and the colours used seem to lack contrast and clarity. It looks like ME are using the same radar display as is used by www.netweather.tv

https://www.netweather.tv/live-weather/radar

There are better ones out there imo. Met Eireann's own hires radar display is far clearer and easier to look at. Not sure why they couldn't have used that one.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/985836760138698753

Alanstrainor · 16-04-2018 2:40pm

Discodog wrote: »

Will they still keep the old site running? I greatly prefer the old radar.

I'd love if there was some link to the old radar... more because I have a script that pulls their images and uses it in a weather display in the gaff. I had a small play around with the beta to pull an image but it's a bit more work than before!

muckwarrior · 16-04-2018 3:57pm

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I'd love if there was some link to the old radar... more because I have a script that pulls their images and uses it in a weather display in the gaff. I had a small play around with the beta to pull an image but it's a bit more work than before!

Yeah, I built an Android widget for myself that does the same. Hadn't investigated how the new one works yet.

Discodog · 16-04-2018 4:23pm

Is there any way that we can appeal to ME to still offer the old radar? It's so clear on mobiles unlike the new one.

I have emailed ME& asked them to retain the old radar. Maybe others might like to do the same.

axe2grind · 16-04-2018 10:07pm

I prefer the new radar.

though not the short timeframe on playback.

pauldry · 17-04-2018 9:45am

New website up

When I go in that stupid map is there and I need to scroll down for text.

Where's yesterday's weather.

Im looking for that but can't find.

Still going to have to use Ireland Weather App and Rain today for rain as only met eireann s Twitter radar is sufficient

The rest I can live with except that map. Put a link to maps instead of that thing

DOCARCH · 17-04-2018 10:00am

....and....it's gone again....back tomorrow.

Edit: New site back up again.

leahyl · 17-04-2018 10:29am

Not sure I like the new site....meh

pauldry · 17-04-2018 10:35am

It's in the teething stage

They won't keep that map there. Far better for mobile users to have text n maybe images with links to maps instead.

A linkable jpeg is better than that map that freezes my phone

sryanbruen · 17-04-2018 10:45am

pauldry wrote: »

New website up

When I go in that stupid map is there and I need to scroll down for text.

Where's yesterday's weather.

Im looking for that but can't find.

Still going to have to use Ireland Weather App and Rain today for rain as only met eireann s Twitter radar is sufficient

The rest I can live with except that map. Put a link to maps instead of that thing

Yesterday's weather is under the latest reports heading.

pad199207 · 17-04-2018 10:46am

Where are yee viewing this? Still old site when i go onto it

sryanbruen · 17-04-2018 10:47am

pad199207 wrote: »

Where are yee viewing this? Still old site when i go onto it

It's showing the new site on met.ie for me.

pad199207 · 17-04-2018 10:48am

sryanbruen wrote: »

It's showing the new site on met.ie for me.

Still old site on met.ie for me

im using chrome

EDIT: Have it now,i needed to open a fresh tab. Looking at the new site now and i see no feedback taken into consideration.

New Met Éireann Website (beta)

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