The Frederick St protest and reaction

guylikeme · 11-09-2018 9:51pm #1

Surprised there wasnt a thread. Maybe there's just no shock factor any more to what happens.

Anyways..without debating who is right or wrong on this, id like to hear why Gardai wore Balacalavas. Seems a little overdone.

I am of course coming in late to all this, fill me in if i'm missing obvious detail.

southcentralts · 11-09-2018 9:56pm

From the little I know about it, gardai may have been wearing balaclavas in an overdone way when they were protesting about Frederick St and there was a reaction...So I too seem to be missing any details really!

TheValeyard · 11-09-2018 10:06pm

Some of those Gardai have never worn a balaclava before! The state of them!!

Jimmy. · 11-09-2018 10:07pm

How did they eat the quarter pounder?

Sinus pain · 11-09-2018 10:10pm

It was the public order unit. I’m sure they were aware there would be a lot of press there and posts on social media and rightly or wrongly they didn’t want their faces posted all over the place - or they wanted to come across as intimidating?

corner of hells · 11-09-2018 10:12pm

Sinus pain wrote: »

It was the public order unit. I’m sure they were aware there would be a lot of press there and posts on social media and rightly or wrongly they didn’t want their faces posted all over the place - or they wanted to come across as intimidating?

Shame on you , shame on you , SHAME ON YOU....

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 10:15pm

People ignoring court order shocked by their removal by Gardai and security, shocker.

Was it just because they wore balaclavas in this weather that they have issue with?

Wheeliebin30 · 11-09-2018 10:19pm

Because their faces would be plastered all over Facebook by morons claiming this and that.

Don’t blame them, they have families to protect too.

jay0109 · 11-09-2018 10:21pm

Have we found out yet who which politician owns the house in Belvedere court which was 'occupied' at the weekend?

Sinus pain · 11-09-2018 10:33pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Shame on you , shame on you , SHAME ON YOU....

Shame on me? You ok hun?

blanch152 · 11-09-2018 10:37pm

Have we found out yet why the idiots who occupied the building thought they could achieve anything?

guylikeme · 11-09-2018 10:43pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Have we found out yet why the idiots who occupied the building thought they could achieve anything?

I guess that the same was thought about the tank man in China. Rosa Parks on that bus. Numerous other examples.

Raising awareness of failed policies does achieve these things bit by bit.

Edgware · 11-09-2018 10:44pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Have we found out yet why the idiots who occupied the building thought they could achieve anything?

Any chance pimple head Murphy got a slap of a baton? It would be a good night's work

Wheeliebin30 · 11-09-2018 10:44pm

guylikeme wrote: »

I guess that the same was thought about the tank man in China. Rosa Parks on that bus. Numerous other examples.

Raising awareness of failed policies does achieve these things bit by bit.

And by occupying someone’s property illegal is the right way to go about it?

Mongfinder General · 11-09-2018 10:51pm

I’ve seen numerous posters on my social media feed going nuts about the actions of Gardaí/UVF thugs/Garda Commissioner. Their histrionics is embarrassing.

If this is indicative of the new Commissioners approach, I’m looking forward to the next few months. They were straight in there. However, tackling a few crusties is way down the list of priorities. They need to smash fcuk out of any junkie/scumbag/burglar/pikey type who steps out of line.
Long overdue.

riffmongous · 11-09-2018 11:00pm

Look like a bunch of rent-a-thugs, which I guess they probably were

The men then drove off in a white van, which had no front registration plate, and a British registration plate on the back.

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Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:02pm

Private security firm, it's already in the thread. No need to make it anymore sinister than it is.

riffmongous · 11-09-2018 11:03pm

Hurrache wrote: »

Private security firm, it's already in the thread. No need to make it anymore sinister than it is.

According to the IT they wouldn't identify themselves

The men wearing balaclavas boarded up the entrance after an hour inside the property. The men would not identify themselves, or who they were acting for, when approached by The Irish Times.

Ipso · 11-09-2018 11:03pm

White van, isn't that what pedos use?

Wheeliebin30 · 11-09-2018 11:04pm

I really don’t see the big deal here.

Any other country they would have been booted out weeks ago using force.

Time for people to start respecting the law in this country.

Wheeliebin30 · 11-09-2018 11:04pm

riffmongous wrote: »

According to the IT they wouldn't identify themselves

So what?

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:06pm

riffmongous wrote: »

According to the IT they wouldn't identify themselves

Why should they?

For Forks Sake · 11-09-2018 11:06pm

Ipso wrote: »

White van, isn't that what pedos use?

good evening Elon Musk...

Gimme A Pound · 11-09-2018 11:08pm

Comparison with Rosa Parks and the young man who risked his life in Tiananmen Square...

There is definitely an accommodation crisis, but how in the hell is illegally occupying a private dwelling meant to help effect change at state level?

And the guards are literally doing their job.

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:10pm

Bethany Long Pensioner wrote: »

And the guards are literally doing their job.

Won't be long before someone tries to make a link with DOB and Siteserv.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 11-09-2018 11:12pm

don't like it that the guards decided to cover their faces, something you'd see in italy when they're arresting mob bosses. i understand why they did though

Wheeliebin30 · 11-09-2018 11:13pm

georgiecasey wrote: »

don't like it that the guards decided to cover their faces, something you'd see in italy when they're arresting mob bosses. i understand why they did though

Why?

What’s the difference without a mask?

topper75 · 11-09-2018 11:14pm

In a country where it is absolutely legal to wear a burka style headdress, there can be no way in which you can question the executive force of the law wearing balaclavas.

Juanito13 · 11-09-2018 11:14pm

georgiecasey wrote: »

don't like it that the guards decided to cover their faces, something you'd see in italy when they're arresting mob bosses. i understand why they did though

One of the pricks orchestrating the whole thing wouldn’t give his surname on the radio last week. Most of the protesters were also wearing masks, so why can’t the Gardai cover their faces?

riffmongous · 11-09-2018 11:19pm

Hurrache wrote: »

Why should they?

Because security are usually obliged to identify themselves, it's in the legislation

magma69 · 11-09-2018 11:19pm

Jaysus this place really is a cess pit. Seems most people on here are only capable of spewing bile.

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:20pm

Given that some of the No Way We Won't Pay goons harassed and exposed Gardai on idiotic Facebook pages I expect it'll be procedure to wear face coverings at any sort of these things from now on.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 11-09-2018 11:21pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Why?

What’s the difference without a mask?

guards should be able to hold their head high that they're doing a job enforcing the law, not worried about vigilantes. doesn't really make a difference at all, just a bad look

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:25pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Because security are usually obliged to identify themselves, it's in the legislation

For licenced security staff which covers door supervisors and static security. Not sure they'd fall under the Private Security Services Act?

riffmongous · 11-09-2018 11:27pm

Hurrache wrote: »

For licenced security staff which covers door supervisors and static security. Not sure they'd fall under the Private Security Services Act?

Well who knows who these guys were right and what laws they fall under? Or if they even came from this country, that's the point

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:30pm

They were obviously cooperating with the Gardai so I'm sure they knew who they were.

riffmongous · 11-09-2018 11:32pm

Get Real wrote: »

They don't have to answer to a newspaper reporter though. We don't even know if they are security. They could be related to the property owner and there to board it up. If I want to board up the windows of my property to secure it, I don't have to give my name or any reason to any Joe Bloggs who asks.

That could be true alright.. but then they wouldnt be driving around missing their front plate

Infini · 11-09-2018 11:33pm

Muppets who occupy private property and refuse to comply with court order hauled off to the cop shop for being muppets.

Nothing to see here just proper Law and Order being enforced on idiots losing the run of themselves for a change. There's protesting and there's acting the bollocks and I personally don't blame the guard for having to conceal their faces to protect themselves and their families from these muppets.

Phoebas · 11-09-2018 11:39pm

I see Paul Murphy TD has called the Gardai who were on duty tonight terrorists.

I'd say he's been missing the limelight.

Hurrache · 11-09-2018 11:39pm

PBP, Socialists, Solidarity et al in hysterics on Twitter this evening, apparently it's one of the darkest days in our country's history. They're pretty selective of what laws they like to see enforced.

CeilingFly · 11-09-2018 11:40pm

guylikeme wrote: »

Anyways..without debating who is right or wrong on this, id like to hear why Gardai wore Balacalavas. Seems a little overdone.
.

Because utter scum and I mean the worst possible scum you can imagine are behind this and scum of that ilk would have no issue in personal attacks on a Garda's family.

Amirani · 11-09-2018 11:41pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Because security are usually obliged to identify themselves, it's in the legislation

You clearly aren't very familiar with the legislation in question, it's in no way applicable.

11-09-2018 11:44pm

The place was cleared quickly enough by the looks of things but this crack of the guards turning up with a couple of lads in balaclavas and an old sh*tbox van is a very unprofessional look.

riffmongous · 11-09-2018 11:45pm

Amirani wrote: »

You clearly aren't very familiar with the legislation in question, it's in no way applicable.

I'm not an expert no, then what legislation does apply here?

Trasna1 · 12-09-2018 12:05am

Hurrache wrote: »

PBP, Socialists, Solidarity et al in hysterics on Twitter this evening, apparently it's one of the darkest days in our country's history. They're pretty selective of what laws they like to see enforced.

and a pretty poor grasp of history too.

Ha Long Bay · 12-09-2018 12:11am

Edgware wrote: »

Any chance pimple head Murphy got a slap of a baton? It would be a good night's work

I think he might have after coming out with a tweet like this

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1039595867131527168

riffmongous · 12-09-2018 12:13am

He is right about the property speculation though, pity they can't make the point without going hysterical

griffin100 · 12-09-2018 12:17am

guylikeme wrote: »

I guess that the same was thought about the tank man in China. Rosa Parks on that bus. Numerous other examples.

Raising awareness of failed policies does achieve these things bit by bit.

So I’m clear here, you’re equating the governments failure to give various groups forever homes for nothing with racial segregation, casual lynching and standing up to a totalitarian despotic regime. Jumping the shark much? Jesus wept.

guylikeme · 12-09-2018 12:21am

griffin100 wrote: »

So I’m clear here, you’re equating the governments failure to give various groups forever homes for nothing with racial segregation, casual lynching and standing up to a totalitarian despotic regime. Jumping the shark much? Jesus wept.

Of course thats exactly what im doing. Bless your 1s and 0s view of the world.

Its a complicated issue and im on the fence about the moralities of it. However... in a city of thousands homeless, how on earth have we so
many vacant residences downtown for this to have a chance of occurring anyway?

Dublin as a city for people to live in is a failure. People are venting for good or for bad.

Infini · 12-09-2018 12:23am

Phoebas wrote: »

I see Paul Murphy TD has called the Gardai who were on duty tonight terrorists.

I'd say he's been missing the limelight.

https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1039595867131527168

Back in your box Murphy, you had your day in the limelight!

ChikiChiki · 12-09-2018 12:28am

Hurrache wrote: »

Won't be long before someone tries to make a link with DOB and Siteserv.

Guards took the correct action here and I hope this is a new tougher approach from the Garda commissioner.

Also DOB and Siteserv dealings were dodgy as ****. Let's not downplay it.

The Frederick St protest and reaction

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