Dublin Coach Experience Discussion Thread

boardsuser1 · 17-10-2017 12:17pm

Not surprising my tweet was overlooked.

https://twitter.com/CorkTruckDriver/status/919650182073081856

Truckermal · 18-10-2017 7:03pm

Another one toasted today!

JCX BXC · 18-10-2017 7:05pm

Anyone want to put in a guess for the next?

devnull · 18-10-2017 7:06pm

Truckermal wrote: »

Another one toasted today!

What was it?

Truckermal · 18-10-2017 7:08pm

devnull wrote: »

What was it?

One of those Double Deckers I only see it on a buddy's Snapchat story!

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 7:12pm

My money is on a 04-KE Neoplan Skyliner.

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 7:16pm

Today's barbecue occurred on the N7.

colm_mcm · 18-10-2017 7:19pm

Was up in centrepiint business park in Dublin last week. Some amount of Dublin coach stuff in bits up there.

devnull · 18-10-2017 8:28pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

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Your post is blank?

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 8:30pm

devnull wrote: »

Your post is blank?

I tried to post a photo of the neoplan, it said file too large.

Didn’t realise it posted.

The Neoplan engine compartment is burned out.

Towed to Corcoran’s Portlaoise.

devnull · 18-10-2017 8:39pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

I tried to post a photo of the neoplan, it said file too large.

Didn’t realise it posted.

The Neoplan engine compartment is burned out.

Towed to Corcoran’s Portlaoise.

I really wonder what their insurer thinks of all this?

The thing is if they are taking on 30 new Tourismo's then they clearly have a few bob so running an old fleet in the condition that it is, must be an operational decision rather than one which is enforced by a lack of finance.

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 8:40pm

Photo from Facebook

punisher5112 · 18-10-2017 8:42pm

Doubt it will see the road again....

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 8:47pm

devnull wrote: »

I really wonder what their insurer thinks of all this?

The thing is if they are taking on 30 new Tourismo's then they clearly have a few bob so running an old fleet in the condition that it is, must be an operational decision rather than one which is enforced by a lack of finance.

The negative publicity is growing against them.

I wonder would the insurer cancel the policy as they are a bigger risk than other operators.

The personal injury claims are flooding in no doubt.

I’d suspect the tourismo’s are leased.

They have effectively taken over from the Setra’s here.

I went for a job there last year, thank god I didn’t get it.

€115 a day for a drivers wage and all this hassle.

No thanks.

joegriffinjnr · 18-10-2017 9:06pm

Did anyone actually see this on fire today? This could be the one that's been sitting in Corcorans yard for a while, just been moved from there.

joegriffinjnr · 18-10-2017 9:08pm

They have got money from somewhere. Along with the 30 new Mercedes, A "Large" double deck order is on the way.

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 9:10pm

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Did anyone actually see this on fire today? This could be the one that's been sitting in Corcorans yard for a while, just been moved from there.

There was a photo taken today from the front, it won’t upload here for me though.

Corcorans is full of scrap these days is it?

A few Ex Cork Bus Eireann VWL’s and VA’s there.

joegriffinjnr · 18-10-2017 9:16pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

There was a photo taken today from the front, it won’t upload here for me though.

Corcorans is full of scrap these days is it?

A few Ex Cork Bus Eireann VWL’s and VA’s there.

Was it on fire in that photo? I'm more than sure this is the one from Corcorans been moved.

devnull · 18-10-2017 9:16pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

The negative publicity is growing against them.

I wonder would the insurer cancel the policy as they are a bigger risk than other operators.

The personal injury claims are flooding in no doubt.

I’d suspect the tourismo’s are leased.

They have effectively taken over from the Setra’s here.

I went for a job there last year, thank god I didn’t get it.

€115 a day for a drivers wage and all this hassle.

No thanks.

Do DC actually lease them? They were with Aircoach I know, but I heard that DC bought them from Evobus after they were returned off lease at a fairly cheap cost because of their age and the fact they had a lot of kms on the clock means they're not going to be the most popular coach for sale on the market.

There's been one parked at the DC depot being used for parts and without an engine. It's unusual to see leased vehicles used as donors like that and have such heavy work done to them by the operator rather than a dealer. That being said, I'm sure Evobus long since wrote the value of these off.

Also have to remember that Dublin Coach's fleet is over two different operating companies as well, so possible there are two different insurance providers also.

You worked for both Aircoach and Dublin Coach I remember, was there much difference in the maintenance of vehicles and general condition?

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 9:17pm

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Was it on fire in that photo? I'm more than sure this is the one from Corcorans been moved.

No visible fire in the photo. It’s a poor shot from the front.

joegriffinjnr · 18-10-2017 9:19pm

I'll try get a bit of info tomorrow, tbh the mind boggles how them neoplans are still on the road.

devnull · 18-10-2017 9:24pm

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

They have got money from somewhere. Along with the 30 new Mercedes, A "Large" double deck order is on the way.

There's somewhat of a disconnect here, they can place a large order for single deck coaches and a large order for double deck coaches which is hardly going to be cheap even if it's leased which indicates that they are not short of a few bob.

Yet last year they were adding pretty much every single 12 year old ex Aircoach Setra they could get their hand on and the state of some of their vehicles has not been great to say the least which indicates that they did not have a large amount of resources.

Either they have got a massive investment of cash from somewhere or are making huge profits or they actively decided to run the operation with tired, hard worked vehicles that were past their best as an operational decision to save money despite having cash?

joegriffinjnr · 18-10-2017 9:36pm

Theres a lot of talk doing the rounds. One story I have heard a few times now is that a good friend of the owner who is in the Horse racing game has invested.

The other story doing the rounds is they lost 1.5 million or there abouts when one of their open top buses hit a Luas earlier in the year. I don't know if this was a fine or compensation claims from the accident.

punisher5112 · 18-10-2017 9:38pm

I wonder is he doing similar to how he sold off air coach as they used lease and vehicles were well cared for.

I don't like the merc vehicles as they just look real out dated and cheap.

Poor they have no DRLs or led lighting at the rear.

The setras were amazing to look at with their led front indicators and xenon dipped beams.

I know the rears weren't led but the light clusters aged well I believe.

Love the horns on them also very distinctive.

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 9:42pm

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Did anyone actually see this on fire today? This could be the one that's been sitting in Corcorans yard for a while, just been moved from there.

Those photos are from today people are saying.

myshirt · 18-10-2017 9:44pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

Those photos are from today people are saying.

Ah lads, not another bus gone on fire?

joegriffinjnr · 18-10-2017 9:48pm

Unbelievable, so in the space of two weeks they have lost a bus and two coaches to fire. Not forgetting the Setra that lost its wheels, reports that's beyond repair as the axle is badly damaged.

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 10:00pm

myshirt wrote: »

Ah lads, not another bus gone on fire?

It sure is.

boardsuser1 · 18-10-2017 10:01pm

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Unbelievable, so in the space of two weeks they have lost a bus and two coaches to fire. Not forgetting the Setra that lost its wheels, reports that's beyond repair as the axle is badly damaged.

Spot on.

devnull · 18-10-2017 10:02pm

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

Theres a lot of talk doing the rounds. One story I have heard a few times now is that a good friend of the owner who is in the Horse racing game has invested.

That wouldn't surprise me, because the owner was always involved with horse and greyhound racing quite a bit and believe owns some of his own greyhounds, hence the tie ups that Dublin Coach often have with various Horse and Greyhound racing values and their special services to such events.

punisher5112 wrote: »

I wonder is he doing similar to how he sold off air coach as they used lease and vehicles were well cared for.

Thing was when the owner was running Aircoach they were not running anywhere near as much of an elderly fleet as Dublin Coach are now, Aircoach typically always went for new vehicles apart from the odd transfer from within First, which honestly was a very small number of vehicles in the overall context to fill a gap.

The setras were amazing to look at with their led front indicators and xenon dipped beams. I know the rears weren't led but the light clusters aged well I believe. Love the horns on them also very distinctive.

The new ones are very nice as well, unfortunately they are not being made for the UK and Ireland market. The double decker variant is probably the best coach I've been on but the sheer cost of them means they're exceptionally rare on service work in the UK and Ireland.

18-10-2017 10:05pm

I always thought that the Setra horns sounded like something you'd expect from a railcar. The IE 29000s definitely sound similar.

tabbey · 19-10-2017 9:26am

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

I went for a job there last year, thank god I didn’t get it.

That explains it.

boardsuser1 · 19-10-2017 9:39am

tabbey wrote: »

That explains it.

Oh yeah

soundman45 · 21-10-2017 7:14pm

Just one point to note. I don't see any drivers or ex drivers for dublin coach on here complaining about terms and conditions there etc so yes while they may run a shabby service at times surely due to the shortage of drivers in the country they can't be that bad to work for.

boardsuser1 · 21-10-2017 7:27pm

soundman45 wrote: »

Just one point to note. I don't see any drivers or ex drivers for dublin coach on here complaining about terms and conditions there etc so yes while they may run a shabby service at times surely due to the shortage of drivers in the country they can't be that bad to work for.

There was a very defensive comment on here the other day of Dublin Coach on a newly registered account, most likely a re-reg/troll.

The comment and account were removed.

Truckermal · 21-10-2017 8:56pm

soundman45 wrote: »

Just one point to note. I don't see any drivers or ex drivers for dublin coach on here complaining about terms and conditions there etc so yes while they may run a shabby service at times surely due to the shortage of drivers in the country they can't be that bad to work for.

They probably can't afford Broadband......:p

punisher5112 · 21-10-2017 9:04pm

Truckermal wrote: »

They probably can't afford Broadband......:p

Or only think boards are the things in the floor of the coach.

PeterParker957 · 21-10-2017 11:12pm

I'm actually getting up earlier just to get the Kavanaghs bus to the airport as Dublin Coach drivers ignored antisocial behaviour from drunks at 3.30am.

Worth the lack of sleep.

boardsuser1 · 21-10-2017 11:29pm

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I'm actually getting up earlier just to get the Kavanaghs bus to the airport as Dublin Coach drivers ignored antisocial behaviour from drunks at 3.30am.

Worth the lack of sleep.

If I was in the same position I’d make the same decision.

Stephen15 · 21-10-2017 11:34pm

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I'm actually getting up earlier just to get the Kavanaghs bus to the airport as Dublin Coach drivers ignored antisocial behaviour from drunks at 3.30am.

Worth the lack of sleep.

I would imagine that Dublin Coach drivers ignore it because on a coach they do not have a perspex cab like DB drivers so they may pitting themselves at risk. Also they may given performance based targets and/or bonuses for on time arrivals so perhaps waiting for Garda assistance would delay this and Dublin Coach might not back up its employees in a court of law, do Dublin Coach buses have CCTV?

john boye · 22-10-2017 12:34am

soundman45 wrote: »

Just one point to note. I don't see any drivers or ex drivers for dublin coach on here complaining about terms and conditions there etc so yes while they may run a shabby service at times surely due to the shortage of drivers in the country they can't be that bad to work for.

I've heard and read reports of many DC drivers having very little English so that might partly explain it.

devnull · 22-10-2017 11:12am

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

There was a very defensive comment on here the other day of Dublin Coach on a newly registered account, most likely a re-reg/troll.

The comment and account were removed.

That particular poster was a re-reg who has registered several hundred accounts over the past few months looking to troll and generally create disharmony.

I would be surprised if they have a connection with Dublin Coach, considering they claimed they work for all of DB/IE/BE in the space of a few hours!

- Moderator.

boardsuser1 · 22-10-2017 11:18am

devnull wrote: »

That particular poster was a re-reg who has registered several hundred accounts over the past few months looking to troll and generally create disharmony.

I would be surprised if they have a connection with Dublin Coach, considering they claimed they work for all of DB/IE/BE in the space of a few hours!

- Moderator.

Cheers for the clarification Dev.

PeterParker957 · 22-10-2017 12:16pm

I went for the JJ Kavanagh 2.50am this morning - Portlaoise to Airport.

Was late and arrived 3.17am. Got to see who'd be on the 3 30am DC. Proved me right!!!

boardsuser1 · 22-10-2017 12:18pm

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I went for the JJ Kavanagh 2.50am this morning - Portlaoise to Airport.

Was late and arrived 3.17am. Got to see who'd be on the 3 30am DC. Proved me right!!!

Drunks?

PeterParker957 · 22-10-2017 1:17pm

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I went for the JJ Kavanagh 2.50am this morning - Portlaoise to Airport.

Was late and arrived 3.17am. Got to see who'd be on the 3 30am DC. Proved me right!!!

Drunks?

And a few pills I'd warrant mate.

boardsuser1 · 22-10-2017 1:31pm

PeterParker957 wrote: »

And a few pills I'd warrant mate.

Lovely

soundman45 · 23-10-2017 4:58pm

Any bus drivers following this tread just to let you know jj kavanagh has add on jobs.ie looking for drivers don't know any details but could be good if someone looking for a change of job etc.

boardsuser1 · 23-10-2017 5:14pm

soundman45 wrote: »

Any bus drivers following this tread just to let you know jj kavanagh has add on jobs.ie looking for drivers don't know any details but could be good if someone looking for a change of job etc.

Pity they don't cover my area. I'd love to go back driving coaches.

AlekSmart · 23-10-2017 8:37pm

soundman45 wrote: »

Any bus drivers following this tread just to let you know jj kavanagh has add on jobs.ie looking for drivers don't know any details but could be good if someone looking for a change of job etc.

They could always throw caution to the wind and try here......

https://www.go-aheaddublin.ie/careers/

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