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Any 530e owners out there?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Killer K


    The 530e are a lovely car. Can see why you are keen to increase the pure EV range. What type of range are you getting with your current car?

    I think it will be pretty expensive for you to go up that one or two years. You are right that it is a strange time in terms of car ownership with cars significantly appreciating in value. The difficulty is while you car has gone up in the value, so too has the newer ones that you will be looking at.

    A dealer will need to make a profit from your trade in (and will have to put in some work, which might be very minor or could be fairly costly). As a general rule/indication, the dealer will offer/give you about 20/25% less than what they will put it in the forecourt for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    If you do the sums on that financially, no way will it make sense. Would be a fair whack of an outlay to move up 1 year into essentially the same car just it will stay on electric a bit longer. If the 191 will do your fully daily on electric, your 181 must be fairly close.

    The payback time on it would be measured in decades!



  • Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭Ricey3509


    Also you’d need to go to a 192 to get the bigger battery, 191 will have the same battery capacity as your 181



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭the corpo


    The 181 is getting me about 26km on best behaviour, doesn't cope too well on colder days like this. It is glorious hearing the 2ltr engine kicking in when it needs to, what a roar (and it's hard to resist the heavy foot when it does!), but it devours petrol.

    Think I just have the fear everytime I look at the price on the petrol pump these days!

    @Ricey3509 thought the battery upgrade came in on the 182, so that certainly almost puts paid to my fantasy.

    Thanks though, it was a nice pipe dream while the world is going crazy all around us.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Every car has increased, from the base 1.1 polo to the Performance Model S!

    It started 2 years ago in general, I sold my Performance Model S for €2k more than I bought it for less than a year later

    Bought a newer MS Performance for €48k in July 2021 and now trading that with a value of €57,3!

    But you have to remember, the cars you are now buying are also gone up so make sure to allow for that in your figures.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I went to look at 530e cars this morning. Which of the below would you pick and what do you think of price? Or has anyone seen anything better for sale they'd like to recommend to me?? I focused on the first 2 below, both 2017s. Probably seduced by interior colours really. Suppose I could get them for 35k (maybe).

    I could move into a 2018 but with less extras than the 2017s for about 1 or 2k more and into a 2019, again with less extras than the 2017s for another 3k on top of the 2018. What would you do?

    All cars have their pros and cons....all msports on 20 inch wheels which to me, says insist on adaptive suspension above any other extras. I test drove 330e msport before and found it very harsh without adaptive suspension.

    Would i be mad to go for higher spec 2017s with the 2018s so close in price? Will I lose out financially in the end by doing this?

    All cars are the smaller battery, even the 2019 one but still well within my work commute (7 kms each way) and I can charge at work too. So my commute should use no petrol unless i don't charge. I'll get caught out for electric range in my leisure activities quite often for sure, but I would with larger battery also. I estimate about 8 to 10 kms extra on the larger battery so no biggie really.

    I think they are all reasonably priced in today's crazy market but I think this market is here to stay so happy enough to buy now.


    pros to me: highest spec overall of all cars I looked at. Msport pack, comfort pack, visibility pack. What i like here is harman kardon and adaptive LED lights. Love the ivory interior colour.

    has split folding seats. I do have access to a van though so not end of the world if it didnt.

    Cons: higher mileage and a few stone chips on bonnet. Black is lovely but difficult to keep clean


    pros: lower mileage and adaptive suspension. Love the ivory interior colour.

    Cons: only con is its overall lower spec than the one above as regards value of extras, but still well specced. Back seats dont fold. Has BMW hifi system rather than Harman Kardon but its not meant to be much different.

    Here are the 2018s.

    https://motorcorp.ie/vehicle?id=Bp7q

    Here is the 2019. There were some other 19s but up in price, further than I really want to go.

    https://motorcorp.ie/vehicle?id=K1EG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Casati


    So 495km for v close to 40 litres? That’s a very disappointing 8l/ 100km unless my maths is way out? I had understood they would be closer to 6l / 100km at that kind of handy motorway driving



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Our 530e long term is 49.9 MPG through the winter. 99% short journeys just to give you an idea.

    Our 520d is mid 20’s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Personally I think the extra body kit is a bit much and those models seem to be alittle cheaper than standard m sport on the used market.

    Love the white interior and looking for same myself.

    Warranty warranty warranty would be my main concern. A fault that might be dealer only repair could be outrageously expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    Seems a lot of money for 2017 cars. Adverts.ie have 2018's from 30k. Bigger battery 2019 here for 40k.

    Is your heart set on the M Sport? SE's cheaper and far more comfortable on standard suspension. Not many around though!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Casati


    Is that because you’ve short journeys and are charging all the time? Must be something wrong with the 520d unless your literally driving gridlock traffic, I’ve seen them return 5.0 litres / 100km on long journeys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yep I'd be wary of expensive fixes but haven't heard too many bad stories about these so far. I'd be willing to pay warranty for peace of mind. I like the body kit and I wouldn't be one for modifying my cars usually, just think they look well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    That's a good spot. How do you know its the bigger battery?

    M sport only I'm afraid, not interested in SE at all.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    520d perfect. Just nearly all short journies.

    it will get 50’s if I reset it in a long motorway drive but that’s not a realistic day to day figure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    AFAIK, all the cars with the fancy dash display (curved rather than two circular dials) have the bigger battery! Maybe someone else can confirm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Far more up to date that display too.

    I think all cars with the new display would have the bigger battery.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Just quoting an earlier post of mine showing how to quickly tell if the car is the updated battery version or not



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    I'd pay a visit to www.gtmotorsdublin.com before deciding. He focuses on the high spec 530e market. Can confirm 3 very happy customers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    I know everyone has their own must-have options but for me its nappa leather at all costs. It's where you sit all the time and the upgrade on the standard dakota is too good to ignore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭bmwfan


    Ive a higher spec 181 m sport then the models above and id take 35k any day for it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw




  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭bmwfan


    No just thinking of selling as its not getting used



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭Vinnymcdonnell


    Brother inlaw is looking at selling his 172 530e Msport Plus with 27k kms on it as making the move to fully electric. He bought it brand new and has a very good option list. Car was €75k when specified

    If anyone is interested before it goes to the trade sale route let me know and can put you in contact



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Can you send over details and asking price please. If you can.

    The wife is considering jumping from her F10 520d after we got a 172 530e 2 years ago. Sounds similar to your brothers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    So quick update here, BMW rang and said Telematics Unit is in transit.

    The last couple of months the connectivity to Connected Drive has been working fine; maps, nav, weather and news apps etc.

    This leads me to the thought that the change in atmospheric pressure may has something to do with it, and through winter the Telematics Unit wasn't working due to some fault!

    Not sure of exact codes that BMW read but will find out in coming days.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Bit of a shock this morning..!

    The Ambient light strip across the dash stopped working last week so I booked the car in today to get it checked out.

    FYI - The car had a full service 6 weeks ago.

    I then get a text with a video of them doing a walk around the car where they point out the the rear passenger Shock is leaking and needs to be replaced and my car is an xDrive version..

    My mind instantly went to "ok , what organ can I sell to cover this!!!"

    Thankfully and somewhat surprisingly when I finally got to speak to them about an hour after the video arrived they have told me that it's fully covered under Warranty.

    I really didn't think it would be as I would have put shocks into the "subject to wear and tear" category. And the lighting issues was just a blown fuse as well.

    After the initial shock (no pun intended) I'm pleasantly surprised that it is fully covered under Warranty.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Id expects the shock to be covered too as it’s should have a reasonable life span. It’s not a consumable in the same way a clutch is or brake pads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭maddness




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    Telematic Unit replaced today and all working fine again.

    Some issues were intermittent like RTTI but I could never send messages to the car after I noticed the initial issues. Can now send messages, lock/unlock remotely etc. which I couldn't so all look good.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭986s


    Looking to pull the trigger on a 192 530E- one of the things I like (which the car I'm purchasing doesn't have) is the M performance body kit- front lip, side skirts and rear lip. Any reputable garages fit these? If so at what cost?

    One other question is the garage mentions that it has upgraded headlights but from pics it doesn't look like the adaptive icon LED lights, so is there an upgrade to the level below the icon LED lights? Bear in mind this is a UK import.

    Last question- it just has the standard Hi Fi (no HK system), what do people do to upgrade this in a reasonably cost effective way?


    Any help, much appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Kramer


    Looking to pull the trigger on a 192 530E- one of the things I like (which the car I'm purchasing doesn't have) is the M performance body kit

    If you like the M-Sport, then buy an M-Sport. It's not feasible to upgrade an SE to M-Sport spec. The M-Sport has bigger wheels, blue performance calipers, stiffer suspension etc. There are plenty of M-Sport 530e available.

    Upgrade the speakers with Eton drop in replacements c/w tweeters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭986s


    Hi Kramer,

    Yes it's a M sport alright- but just like the added M performance kit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    From what I've seen, cars with m performance kit appear to sell cheaper than standard m sport.

    Personally don't like the extra kit - it's just alittle too much but each to their own.

    I would just look for car with that kit instead of trying to add it although I believe this was always just a dealer fitted accessory kit and never factory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭WacoKid


    I added the rear diffuser to my 530E from Red Power Motorsport. The back of the G30 is plain without it IMO but I'm not a fan of the side or front skirts, makes the G30 look cheaper.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭986s


    Many thanks for the recommendation- will check them out.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Maddic_Irl


    Guide for BMW Dealer pricing, www.kearysbmw.ie/web/body-kit-bmw/

    Bought from grills from this company in Germany, also do full kits, https://www.schmiedmann.com



  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Maddic_Irl


    Anyone have the issue with the gloss black exterior trim on m-sport fading? Anyone get them replaced under warranty?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭PaulJoseph22


    No, have them on both BMW’s, both as good as new.



  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Maddic_Irl


    Thurtle wax snow foam, it just the trim around the front spot lights, no other trim has faded such as around the mirrors. Quick search and this appears to be a common problem (UK and US forums), sometimes replaced under warranty depending on country.

    The grille is aftermarket so about 1 year newer but serves as a good comparison, you can see the blue tint to the trim around the spot light.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yeah you can see it alright. UV damage maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    Shame about the fading but absolutely love the front of these cars! Savage looking



  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Maddic_Irl




  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    Has anyone here changed from a 530e to a full BEV recently?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,797 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    I suppose I’m wondering which do you prefer and how do the practicalities compare in daily and ongoing use now you have experience if both?

    i find the 530 boot to be useless when away for a longish period when two suitcases would be needed or going on holidays, that’s irregular use in all fairness. Otherwise I love it.

    it’s a 211, so I’m wondering should I refinance when the PCP is up, or move now and get a BEV.

    I’ve looked at the iX and M50, dismissed the M50 as too small, the back seats and door in particular, love the iX but is goes beyond 100k for a decent spec.

    im within 10 years of retiring, so I’d probably be better off weaning myself off the PCP habit before income drops.

    So something like the EV6 or Ionic 5 would be much more sensible and affordable.

    Usage is perfect for plug in, wife drives usually 20km per day, occasional long run at the weekends. Maybe I should just keep it as it’s well specked, and only 19000km after 18 months. Charged daily, so costing very little to run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I think you would be stone mad to hand in your 5 series for either EV6 or ionic5 specially seeing as the battery range works for you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭AidenL


    Im beginning to think that myself - I usually change every 3 years, maybe I should make this last for 5 or 6 and leave myself with more options for then.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Hold out for a few years and replace it with a 1-2 year old Next Gen 5 BEV 5 Series.

    That's certainly my plan - The new BEV 5 Series is due out this time next year from what I can gather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,465 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    That should be a great car and certainly worth hanging on for.



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