Tesla Cybertruck

ELM327 wrote: »

It's 3foot longer if you take t he 8ft bed (vs the ranger <6ft) and the crewcab which is much longer than the ranger.

A couple of inches taller and wider is more what I was saying. And the 150/1500 size pickups have gotten more and more bloated as the years go by. My last 1500 chevy was from 1998 and in all areas except bed length, the current ranger is bigger.

Must have been a tiny 1500.

My 1500 HD dwarfed the rangers back I 2003

So is a Category C (Rigid Truck) licence required for the Cybertruck ? Thinking I probably should start getting the ball rolling on this.

If you don't intend to tow with it then a car with a max mass of 3,500kg is ok on a B licence. Does the cybertruck go over that?

unkel wrote: »

If you don't intend to tow with it then a car with a max mass of 3,500kg is ok on a B licence. Does the cybertruck go over that?

Seems to be spec'd at 6500lbs max or 3000kg

unkel wrote: »

That's the max total mass including payload, yeah? If so it's fine on your normal licence if you only tow a little trailer then

If you're on a B-license, the small trailer (that you're allowed to tow) goes on top of the 3.5t GVW.

If youre' on a B/E-license, you're allowed to tow whatever the vehicle is plated for but to a max of 3.5t.

For a 2WD, the absolute max plated towing weight is the GVW of the towing car. For a 4WD the absolute max plated towing weight is 1.5x the GVW of the towing car .... to an absolute max of 3.5t of course.

It's only when the GVW of the towing car exceeds 3.5t, that you need a C1 license.

I hope that's clear enough. And yes .. I do have a B/E license since i was 19 years old and got that in a country, that actually requires you to properly study for it and pass the test on all aspects .. even back then, which is 24 years back. I also hold a C/E and A license.

Those rules are common for all EU, so also apply to current irish licenses.

/M

unkel wrote: »

So what I was saying was right then? That if the total combined gross weight of the car + trailer is less than 3,500kg, you can drive on a B licence? As in say the cybertruck has a total gross weight of 3000kg and the small trailer has a total gross weight of 500kg? That's the way I've always understood it.

No. Even better.

If the Tesla Cybertruck comes in at 3.5t GVW or less, then anyone that has a B-license can drive it and tow a trailer up to 750kg GVW on top of the GVW of the Cybertruck. On a B license !!

If the trailer is beyond that, you need B/E.

If the Cybertruck is beyond 3.5t GVW, you need C1.

If the Cybertruck is beyond 3.5t GVW and you want to tow a trailer, then you need C1+E.

I see scenario 1+2 as the most likely. Otherwise, it'll be a real pain for a lot of people. And that will not help sales. So, no matter what notion Elon has .. he will make that happen. He's not known for ignoring market advantages.

And honestly .. even bigger things than that come in at 3.5t GVW or less .. I own a few of them .. and they are bigger than most people like to drive.

Oh .. and again .. as those rules are sort of unified across the EU, Tesla is NOT going to ignore them. So I would say, those (like me) who indeed have put deposit down .. are grand. Unless you want to pull a 5th wheel caravan with it ... then I'll be grand .. the rest of you may not

/M

unkel wrote: »

Ah yeah I remember now. Thanks for the update.

And I was just browsing some specs of massive Dethleffs motorhomes and they all seem to have a GVW of 3499kg, I wonder why

For THAT exactly same reason. They'd even be safe at 3500kg .. but in case Dethleffs just wanted to make sure, that potential future business never would be scoopered by future desk jockeys. For the sake of 1kg. It's called future planning.

It's the same with 8-seaters vs. 9-seaters. Do we include the drivers seat or not ? .. NO we do not. But the irish toll-bridges got that one arse-wise.

/M

Any update if its even going to be made for the Oz/UK/Irl market?

Pkiernan wrote: »

Any update if its even going to be made for the Oz/UK/Irl market?

They have said it will be global and nothing has been changed since then.
Can't see why it wouldnt come here.

Have reserved tri motor and won't be wrapping it

ELM327 wrote: »

Have reserved tri motor and won't be wrapping it

Dual motor . Definitely not wrapping either.

You'd nearly scrape it off a few concrete walls in an underground car park just for the craic

graememk wrote: »

Some go faster stripes! Gateposts work well for that too

I'd be afraid the gatepost would be damaged and I'd have to pay for it

Widdensushi wrote: »

What price are ye expecting the dual motor one to be?

Didnt they say 39k, 49k, 69k as the USD prices?
Looking at the model 3 USD:IRL prices ratio, I'd expect 50k:60k:80k here for the three variants

That's one question that hasnt' been answered yet. I'd assume it's the same as the likes of the env200, kangoo ZE etc. Vat reclaimable if bought commercially.

traco wrote: »

If its over 3500kg and C1 then won't it need a tacho fitted or is that only applicable to commercial use?

Only for commercial use. Not required if privately owned.

/M

Trucks >3500kg GVWR are not subject to the same restrictions as passenger cars. If it is licensed here (eu) as a commercial vehicle it has a chance.

The irony is, if it is not approved here, I can still import a used one!

graememk wrote: »

>3500 would need a c1 licence?

Yes

ELM327 wrote: »

The irony is, if it is not approved here, I can still import a used one!

And there will be RHD ones ... cause you can be sure, that the Aussies want themselves this new UTE.

/M

ELM327 wrote: »

Hopefully. But would be more expensive to import from aussieland (although they may have type2 CCS standard there?

Australia would not be the only RHD place. It's just the biggest RHD market. Seeing, that the UK now isn't EU anymore, they might even just go and and approve it for their market. So we may be able to get them closer to home.

/M

Marlow wrote: »

And there will be RHD ones ... cause you can be sure, that the Aussies want themselves this new UTE.

/M

The Ausies won't be approving this in it's current guise, any more than the Germans will: https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/new-tesla-cybertruck-could-put-other-road-users-at-risk/news-story/da648cad43ef731ae5dbb45632a6ed41

ELM327 wrote: »

If they have them in the UK and not here then I'd happily pay the VAT etc to import!

Same here.

/M

slave1 wrote: »

LOL, just imagine stepping out of that chap at the local Tesco

I can't wait. Use to love taking my lifted F250 to the shops for a pint of milk. #compensatin'
Did not love spending >€200 to fill the two derv tanks with road diesel though!