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AP (Tax Specialist) Revenue - Open Comp 2018

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    #62
    LFC1990
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭LFC1990


    Anyone have the information booklet handy?


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    #63
    RamonD3
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭RamonD3


    Didn't make it through myself. Working as a tax manager in practice with 13 years experience counts for little!


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    #64
    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    RamonD3 wrote: »
    Didn't make it through myself. Working as a tax manager in practice with 13 years experience counts for little!

    Please don’t take this the wrong way!

    If you didn’t get through with that background then there must be a problem with your approach to the form. (Or else somebody made a mistake.)

    Anecdotally, some quite well qualified people fill in these forms with a noticeably haughty attitude, effectively saying “pffffft, of course I can do this job, look at all my qualifications!” without realising that regardless of your qualifications you actually need to set out how the qualifications and experience you have make you a good candidate for the job.

    As far as the process is concerned, you’re the seller and they’re the buyer, and it’s a buyer’s market.


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    #65
    RamonD3
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭RamonD3


    I hear what you're saying alright, though I did cover the bases of what were set out on the job spec in the box that was filled out. I still wasn't hugely surprised, so just mildly annoying!


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    #66
    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    RamonD3 wrote: »
    I hear what you're saying alright, though I did cover the bases of what were set out on the job spec in the box that was filled out. I still wasn't hugely surprised, so just mildly annoying!

    It is strange. Is there an appeal/review/feedback process in place? If you intend on applying again you could do with knowing.


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    #67
    Anon31985
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Anon31985


    RamonD3 wrote: »
    I hear what you're saying alright, though I did cover the bases of what were set out on the job spec in the box that was filled out. I still wasn't hugely surprised, so just mildly annoying!

    That's disappointing, there is a feedback form you can request. It may be helpful.


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    #68
    Anon31985
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Anon31985


    barneystinson wrote: »
    I know 3 people going forward, all serving Revenue staff.

    One EO, a qualified accountant, not AITI.
    One HEO (actually the EO’s line manager!) also an accountant (chartered), not AITI.
    One AP, chartered accountant and AITI.

    I know two going forward both accountants but no tax qualification. One has worked in a tax focus role for a number of years and both have significant audit experience.
    Theres also an audit panel being formed from this campaign if I recall correctly.


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    #69
    paydembills
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭paydembills


    barneystinson wrote: »
    I know 3 people going forward, all serving Revenue staff.

    One EO, a qualified accountant, not AITI.
    One HdEO (actually the EO’s line manager!) also an accountant (chartered), not AITI.
    One AP, chartered accountant and AITI.

    Why is an existing tax AP going for a tax AP role? Is it a location thing?


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    #70
    paydembills
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭paydembills


    Just did the video interview. The most stressful part was the 10 minutes it took each part to upload. And the part where my iPad toppled sideways midway through a recording ������ not sure we are set up for this kind of thing out here in the sticks!! Still. At least it's done. Good luck everyone!


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    #71
    RamonD3
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭RamonD3


    barneystinson wrote: »
    It is strange. Is there an appeal/review/feedback process in place? If you intend on applying again you could do with knowing.

    Yeah I did ask for the form in case there was something constructive, but it was real cya stuff! I do think they should target accountants for the audit and compliance roles, from my experience on revenue audits they tend to focus on the wrong things, someone from an accounting background would do a better job than a tax person I think.

    Anyhow best of luck to those going forward, always good to have some regeneration there!


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    #72
    BobCat123
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭BobCat123


    paydembills wrote: »
    Just did the video interview. The most stressful part was the 10 minutes it took each part to upload. And the part where my iPad toppled sideways midway through a recording ������ not sure we are set up for this kind of thing out here in the sticks!! Still. At least it's done. Good luck everyone!

    Is there a break in between each question or is the recording straight through? Thanks


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    #73
    paydembills
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭paydembills


    It's really well designed, each question is a separate click through screen. There is a built in 1 minute prep time and then the three minute recording. Each segment uploads, then you click through to the next question. At the start there is an example recording where you can check your sound and lighting.
    I had to email the support crowd as I used an iPad which doesn't use the Chrome application identified in the circular. There's a really good App available for idevices.


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    #74
    Emma2019
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Emma2019


    Really surprised at the short notice to record the interview. I'm away for the weekend until Monday night so feeling a little on the back foot!

    Does anyone have a copy of the information leaflet they wouldn't mind sending on? I just tried to open mine and it seems to have corrupted and I'll need to record my answers tomorrow so can't email Revenue for a copy.

    Either way good luck all!


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    #75
    delricyo
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭delricyo


    Just to note, of the people I know who got through - none of them have accountancy or taxation qualifications


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    #76
    delricyo
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭delricyo


    Emma2019 wrote: »
    Really surprised at the short notice to record the interview. I'm away for the weekend until Monday night so feeling a little on the back foot!

    Does anyone have a copy of the information leaflet they wouldn't mind sending on? I just tried to open mine and it seems to have corrupted and I'll need to record my answers tomorrow so can't email Revenue for a copy.

    Either way good luck all!

    It is strange that they gave you such short notice. If I find the form this evening, I'll send it through to you


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    #77
    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    delricyo wrote: »
    Just to note, of the people I know who got through - none of them have accountancy or taxation qualifications

    What kind of qualifications do they have?

    I have to say, for a Tax Specialist role, that is quite bizarre. Unless the person spec differs drastically from the one for last year’s equivalent competition, a person with neither an accountancy nor tax qualification shouldn’t be advancing.


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    #78
    delricyo
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭delricyo


    barneystinson wrote: »
    What kind of qualifications do they have?

    I have to say, for a Tax Specialist role, that is quite bizarre. Unless the person spec differs drastically from the one for last year’s equivalent competition, a person with neither an accountancy nor tax qualification shouldn’t be advancing.

    I believe they have the qualifications to get them over the line but they realise they have a difficult time ahead of them. As far as I know, Revenue have never explicitly asked for professional qualifications for competitions before. Doesn't mean that the managers doing the shortlisting aren't applying more weight to those candidates though...


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    #79
    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    delricyo wrote: »
    I believe they have the qualifications to get them over the line but they realise they have a difficult time ahead of them. As far as I know, Revenue have never explicitly asked for professional qualifications for competitions before. Doesn't mean that the managers doing the shortlisting aren't applying more weight to those candidates though...

    I think you might misunderstand me.

    The person spec for the 2018 competition, while it didn’t make professional accountancy / tax qualifications a requirement, set out various skills/experience, such as:
    - experience as a manager in large professional firms
    - planning & conducting audits of larger businesses
    - forensic accounting
    - transfer pricing
    - devising & implementing tax planning/ tax mitigation for complex businesses

    In other words, I am struggling to see how a person without who isn’t an accountant or tax consultant is likely to be able to hit any / many of the desirable skill sets.

    Regardless of how wonderful the qualifications of your person are, if you presented me with a person with relevant qualifications AND experience as an accountant or tax adviser in practice and industry in a managerial role, then I don’t care what PhD your person has - they simply can’t compete (not without going away and intensively retraining for several years).

    Maybe the spec for this competition is different though..?? If it’s not, then I’d have serious concerns about the screening process, if people without relevant qualifications and experience (as per the person spec) are being progressed, while others with both, are not.


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    #80
    Anon31985
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Anon31985


    did you talk for the full 3 minutes on each question? i feel i have too much to say. Ive written out some answers might have to cut it back. Im also afraid of a technology fail


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    #81
    Emma2019
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Emma2019


    Anyone know how much time we have between recording each question? I wouldn't mind a few minutes to reread the question before recording the answer.


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    #82
    nazzy
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭nazzy


    Emma2019 wrote:
    Anyone know how much time we have between recording each question? I wouldn't mind a few minutes to reread the question before recording the answer.


    I did it on Saturday morning and now cant remember. I think you can take whatever time you need. Then there's a minute of prep time once you enter.


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    #83
    Emma2019
    Registered Users Posts: 414 ✭✭Emma2019


    I've allowed access to camera and microphone for Firefox and Chrome and it's still telling me I need to give permission. Anyone had this issue?


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    #84
    littlelady81
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭littlelady81


    Emma2019 wrote: »
    I've allowed access to camera and microphone for Firefox and Chrome and it's still telling me I need to give permission. Anyone had this issue?

    Can you email them?


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    #85
    Anon31985
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Anon31985


    Emma2019 wrote: »
    I've allowed access to camera and microphone for Firefox and Chrome and it's still telling me I need to give permission. Anyone had this issue?

    Have you pop ups enabled.


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    #86
    James1988
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭James1988


    Two questions:

    1) Does the video automatically time out after 3 minutes?

    2) Do we know how many got through to the video interviews? Did those who got a refusal get told how many applied and got through etc.


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    #87
    Sprites
    Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭Sprites


    James1988 wrote: »
    Two questions:

    1) Does the video automatically time out after 3 minutes?

    2) Do we know how many got through to the video interviews? Did those who got a refusal get told how many applied and got through etc.

    Yes the video times out after 3 minutes, learned this the hard way. Although I was aware it would after the example question and still got caught.

    No idea how many got through to this stage, I doubt they would tell applicants that information as a matter of course.


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    #88
    James1988
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭James1988


    Sprites wrote: »
    Yes the video times out after 3 minutes, learned this the hard way. Although I was aware it would after the example question and still got caught.
    .

    Cheers, I'm assuming that example question does not get graded, at least I hope it doesn't?

    It caught me off guard ha.


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    #89
    Sprites
    Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭Sprites


    James1988 wrote: »
    Cheers, I'm assuming that example question does not get graded, at least I hope it doesn't?

    It caught me off guard ha.

    No, doesn't get graded. That would be very sneaky of them. Well done on getting through it.


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    #90
    littlelady81
    Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭littlelady81


    It's done now anyways! Hopefully we won't have to wait too long to hear back from them! System was easy to use!


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    #91
    Anon31985
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Anon31985


    Is anyone in the know of when we might be likely to hear back and when the interviews would likely be on?

    Thinking of booking a holiday but don't want to miss the interview if I hopefully get called


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