The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

kksaints · 18-11-2018 5:11pm

Lalor was very impressive in the Novice Chase at Cheltenham. Travelled powerfully and jumped quite well.

Fanny Wank · 18-11-2018 10:46pm

Samcro goes to the Fighting Fifth according to Emmet Kennedy on Twitter, says he's quoting Elliott on ATR

Sommerville Boy's target too. Interesting......

TheRiverman · 18-11-2018 11:30pm

Is it time to retire Faugheen ?

kiers47 · 19-11-2018 10:25am

TheRiverman wrote: »

Is it time to retire Faugheen ?

No

akelly02 · 19-11-2018 10:29am

i think so, unless he can re-invent himself as a staying hurdler.

kiers47 · 19-11-2018 10:31am

He literally won a grade 1 on his second last start.

Francie Barrett · 19-11-2018 10:43am

Judging from Willie's reaction yesterday where he looked genuinely disappointed at Faugheen, I can't help but think that maybe he let sentiment get the better of him in allowing him to run in the first place. What ever you say about 2m on fast ground not suiting Samcro, it definitely wasn't going to suit a 10 year old Faugheen who always ran best with some juice in the going.

krustydoyle · 19-11-2018 11:02am

Willie talking about Laurina in the RP this morning, saying the owners want to go for the Champion Hurdle but more realistically she'll go for the Mares Hurdle

RivetingRoger · 20-11-2018 7:49pm

Anyone else think Beavau Dair is a very good horse, but a very lucky horse who would not be in the same league as previous winners on the CH?
To win 2 in a row is a massive achievement but for me, if a fully fit Faugheen had been around, it beats BD, I also think a younger Jezki, Tent would beat it. Annie, even maybe VVM.

I just don't think its that "great" and I would fully expect Samcro if it stays up, or especially Laurina to beat it.

Auroras_encore · 20-11-2018 7:57pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Anyone else think Beavau Dair is a very good horse, but a very lucky horse who would not be in the same league as previous winners on the CH?
To win 2 in a row is a massive achievement but for me, if a fully fit Faugheen had been around, it beats BD, I also think a younger Jezki, Tent would beat it. Annie, even maybe VVM.

I just don't think its that "great" and I would fully expect Samcro if it stays up, or especially Laurina to beat it.

I'd wager with the mares allowance none of them would touch Annie

RivetingRoger · 21-11-2018 11:15am

Auroras_encore wrote: »

I'd wager with the mares allowance none of them would touch Annie

I'd say a fully fit Faugheen of 3/4 years ago beats Annie and the rest of em

kiers47 · 21-11-2018 11:20am

Laurina is one of the worst prices I've ever seen at this stage for a champion hurdle. She very well might prove up to it but on what we currently know I don't know how anyone could think she is a bet at 5 or 6/11

Slattsy · 21-11-2018 12:17pm

Did Mullins not say she'll go for the mares recently??

kiers47 · 21-11-2018 12:24pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Did Mullins not say she'll go for the mares recently??

I think his exact words were the owners want to go to the champion but he thinks the mares route is more realistic. Or something close to that.
Another reason though why she is a scandalous price.

prettyboy81 · 21-11-2018 1:20pm

Some juice in the ground now with that weather!

Joe_ Public · 21-11-2018 1:43pm

kiers47 wrote: »

I think his exact words were the owners want to go to the champion but he thinks the mares route is more realistic. Or something close to that.
Another reason though why she is a scandalous price.

I checked market after reading this and was expecting to see minimum 10s and probably more. Wouldnt be interested in backing her for champion at even those odds given the way these things have panned out with the yard in the past. Don’t mind losing a/p money but don’t like looking like a bit of a chump in the process.

BumperD · 21-11-2018 2:21pm

kksaints wrote: »

Lalor was very impressive in the Novice Chase at Cheltenham. Travelled powerfully and jumped quite well.

He was for sure. Next run will tell lots for his season ahead. Some nice videos on the trainers Twitter page of him hanging out at home with her daughter, a gentle ghiant mr lalor

Joe_ Public · 21-11-2018 2:32pm

The novice hurdle Lalor won at Aintree is a race working out well. Coolanly, 5th, won at Cheltenham last week. Minds Eye, 4th, won a novice chase at Wexford and can do better I think. Bedrock beat Samcro while Vision de Flos has run consistently well without winning.

I think those horses could be worth following. Bedrocks win over Samcro went a bit under the radar. If he turned up in something like the fighting fifth I’d have a serious look at backing him to prove that wasn’t a total fluke.

BumperD · 21-11-2018 8:01pm

Is bedrock sold to go to US?

Joe_ Public · 21-11-2018 8:46pm

BumperD wrote: »

Is bedrock sold to go to US?

Yes that’s right but I’m assuming it’ll have a winter campaign here before heading stateside.

kiers47 · 21-11-2018 8:48pm

Pretty sure Ian Jardine said after Down Royal next target would be Newcastle so I'd imagine he goes there.

Joe_ Public · 21-11-2018 9:29pm

He’s 12s currently for the fighting fifth and that definitely interests me as he’s more likely to turn up than a couple of those ahead of him. Not saying he’d definitely uphold form with Samcro again but think the price discrepancy between them is well on the unfair side.

The Mig · 22-11-2018 11:48am

5 declared for the Betfair Chase. Super lineup if they all appear

Might Bite
Native River
Bristol De Mai
Thistlecrack
Clan Des Obeaux

Dr. Bre · 22-11-2018 12:49pm

The Mig wrote: »

5 declared for the Betfair Chase. Super lineup if they all appear

Might Bite
Native River
Bristol De Mai
Thistlecrack
Clan Des Obeaux

Much better race than last year if they all go to post . Bristol won easily but nothing challenged him

Fanny Wank · 22-11-2018 11:17pm

Interesting market

https://twitter.com/jamesaknight/status/1065716696445526016?s=19

Gringo180 · 22-11-2018 11:21pm

What does scratch mean?

longshotvalue · 22-11-2018 11:29pm

Fanny **** wrote: »

Interesting market

https://twitter.com/jamesaknight/status/1065716696445526016?s=19

native river isn't getting beat by 3.5 lgts by anything. that looks a good bet, he should only be a length behind Might Byte

Gringo180 · 22-11-2018 11:32pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

What does scratch mean?

Ah i get it now.

kiers47 · 22-11-2018 11:48pm

aidankkk wrote: »

native river isn't getting beat by 3.5 lgts by anything. that looks a good bet, he should only be a length behind Might Byte

Be careful there it is not the distance to the winner. Everything is added to the relative distances at the end of the race and whatever is ahead then.

I.e if might bite wins with native river 1 length back and Bristol 2 lengths further back and the rest nowhere. Then Bristol wins. If you get me. There will only be 1 winner like a regular market.

kiers47 · 23-11-2018 12:04am

Fwiw I think I'd take Bristol De Mai +8 lengths if I was forced for a pick.

Joe_ Public · 23-11-2018 12:18am

Thistlecrack +10 for me there, take a chance on fitness. Less than 6 lengths behind MB at Kempton so 10 looks doable.

longshotvalue · 23-11-2018 9:15am

kiers47 wrote: »

Be careful there it is not the distance to the winner. Everything is added to the relative distances at the end of the race and whatever is ahead then.

I.e if might bite wins with native river 1 length back and Bristol 2 lengths further back and the rest nowhere. Then Bristol wins. If you get me. There will only be 1 winner like a regular market.

I realise that , but i think its a 2 horse race and they will be a fair bit clear.

kiers47 · 23-11-2018 9:44am

aidankkk wrote: »

I realise that , but i think its a 2 horse race and they will be a fair bit clear.

Fair enough. I don't really think it's that simple myself haydock is an odd place.

Slattsy · 23-11-2018 9:50am

What's the ground like at Haydock?

kiers47 · 23-11-2018 10:17am

Slattsy wrote: »

What's the ground like at Haydock?

Good to soft, good in places in a report I seen yesterday.

Slattsy · 23-11-2018 2:46pm

That's BDM out of the equation so.

Fanny Wank · 23-11-2018 8:59pm

These lads are putting a fair bit of cash into the game and it's great to see big owners so engaging. A lot of others could learn from them

https://twitter.com/GrechParkin/status/1066042001890729984?s=19

Gringo180 · 23-11-2018 9:32pm

Slattsy wrote: »

That's BDM out of the equation so.

3 from 3 at the course. Clearly loves it at Haydock I think he will go close tomorrow.

Slattsy · 24-11-2018 10:32am

Gringo180 wrote: »

3 from 3 at the course. Clearly loves it at Haydock I think he will go close tomorrow.

I just meant with the ground, he wants it soft. Very soft.

Auroras_encore · 24-11-2018 12:32pm

Might bite will win but wont win a gold cup

akelly02 · 24-11-2018 2:00pm

Auroras_encore wrote: »

Might bite will win but wont win a gold cup

Why

Gringo180 · 24-11-2018 4:09pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

3 from 3 at the course. Clearly loves it at Haydock I think he will go close tomorrow.

Galloped them into the ground. Impressive. Unbeatable at Haydock.

Slattsy · 24-11-2018 7:13pm

Paloma Blue out tomorrow.

Heavily backed already. I've gone in again for the Arkle. Really like this fella.

Dr. Bre · 24-11-2018 7:28pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

3 from 3 at the course. Clearly loves it at Haydock I think he will go close tomorrow.

You were correct

kiers47 · 24-11-2018 7:32pm

kiers47 wrote: »

Fwiw I think I'd take Bristol De Mai +8 lengths if I was forced for a pick.

I assume this was the winner in that market. No bets although I was for sure tempted when he hit about 9/1 on Betfair. But no cojones unfortunately.

BumperD · 25-11-2018 3:06pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Paloma Blue out tomorrow.

Heavily backed already. I've gone in again for the Arkle. Really like this fella.

Humm does not look up to it

Slattsy · 25-11-2018 6:12pm

BumperD wrote: »

Humm does not look up to it

Thanks captain hindsight!

Yeah disappointed with that. HDB never has his fully wound up first time out, I'll cling on to the hope he'll come on a fair bit next time out.

Fanny Wank · 27-11-2018 7:34pm

https://twitter.com/racing_uk/status/1067486014950789120?s=19

Gringo180 · 27-11-2018 7:50pm

Fanny **** wrote: »

https://twitter.com/racing_uk/status/1067486014950789120?s=19

Think Newcastle be a bit on the sharp side for him.

Whiplash85 · 27-11-2018 8:59pm

It will be interesting to see how Mengli Khan gets on tomorrow. Flat bred but always cleared the hurdles with enough to spare. Big powerful horse who should be suited to chasing. Arkle looks wide open and hard to see where any other genuine Irish contender could come from.

The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

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