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The Batman (Matt Reeves) ***spoilers from post 1030***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    /Film are reporting that Pattinson has beaten Hoult to the role.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    /Film are reporting that Pattinson has beaten Hoult to the role.

    Confirmed by Deadline Hollywood.

    https://deadline.com/2019/05/robert-pattinson-batman-wins-role-warner-bros-1202624926/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Be interesting to see how it unfolds over 3 films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How about Hoult as Riddler, he looks like tv show Gotham's Riddler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,879 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    They need to jump right into the action with this trilogy and not start with another origin story.


    I think at this stage everyone knows why Bruce Wayne became Batman.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    They need to jump right into the action with this trilogy and not start with another origin story.


    I think at this stage everyone knows why Bruce Wayne became Batman.

    Take this anyway you want.
    Reeves’ film tracks Bruce Wayne in the formative stages of Batman

    Could be something similar to Begins. None of us really know at this stage.

    Though Reeves' did say this
    It's very much a point of view-driven, noir Batman tale. It's told very squarely on his shoulders, and I hope it's going to be a story that will be thrilling but also emotional. It's more Batman in his detective mode than we've seen in the films. The comics have a history of that. He's supposed to be the world's greatest detective, and that's not necessarily been a part of what the movies have been. I'd love this to be one where when we go on that journey of tracking down the criminals and trying to solve a crime, it's going to allow his character to have an arc so that he can go through a transformation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I wonder will they link it to the scene in the trailer for the new Joker film where he's making young Bruce Wayne smile.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    If it is an origin story I'm thinking it will be more like Batman Year One than Batman Begins, i.e. focused on a specific period of time of say several months to a year versus spanning a couple of decades like Begins did. So a bit like Batman 1989 but about Batman.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I genuinely hope that Joker film stays its own thing. It obviously had the wriggle room to tell a self contained story and retrofitting Pattinsons batman would be disappointing.

    And we DEFINITELY don't need to see the Crime Alley scene again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭justinbellford




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    ****ing clickbait. Those ***** know nothing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,879 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    It will be interesting to see how this film goes. I heard it is going to be some type of a noir/Blade Runner type take on Batman? The indications are there that this will be good. One thing for sure is it will never create the hype of exactly 30 years ago when Batman first came to the big screen. One can argue if Batman 1989 was the best Batman or not but no one can argue that it was not the biggest Batmania event ever. The hype, the crowds queuing up to get in, the sheer excitement of seeing it in the cinema, remember being all excited talking about it with my dad on the way home and with my mam after getting home. All Batman films since owe something to this one that started it off too. And the noir/Blade Runner elements were actually introduced to Batman in that seminal 1989 classic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Wedwood


    Another Batman reboot?, sigh.........

    Affleck’s version offered nothing other than he had a ‘grey’ suit that looked more like the cartoons and he was now ‘older’.

    Now it looks like ‘angsty’ Batman is on the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Looking forward to seeing what Pattinson does with the role, all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    We will have to wait and see where this film goes with Batman. Everyone who makes a Batman film has the perfect Batman film in their mind: it MUST have the Joker as the bad guy, Robin has to be left out, there has to be a love interest in Bruce's life who finds out he is Batman. The danger here is the same film could get made over and over. 30 years ago almost exactly, Batmania hit Ireland and this first Batman film created excitement precisely because it was so different and unique.

    The last 2 Batman films where Batman is teamed up with other superheros were a bit too sci fi and were in their own way every bit as OTT as Batman & Robin. What the new film needs to do is bring Batman back to a grittier thriller style much the same way The Dark Knight trilogy did after the disaster that was Batman & Robin. What could the new film do well that hasn't been done before? Are there enemies that haven't featured that could be revived? We know that having Batman fight aliens, the villains of the last 2 films, is not really a good idea. Leave them to Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and co. Likewise, Lex Luthor is better off where he belongs, as Superman's main enemy. The Joker and The Penguin are among the most important Batman villains and rather than reviving the Joker for a third time, perhaps reviving the Penguin might be good. Or what about giving the Riddler a darker, grittier makeover than what we got in Batman Forever? Other Batman villains like the Book Worm, King Tut or Egghead do not seem to be worth reviving and would belong more in those Schumacher films than noir-inspired thriller.

    I agree that this film needs to jump straight into the action and avoid any lengthy origin backstories. These have already had a whole film dedicated to them and have featured quite heavily in other Batman films over the years too. I feel though the backstory will feature as it always has but this may take from the film because it essentially is the same thing done each time. Having Harvey Dent's story done for a third time also may not be a good move.

    In the 30 year history of Batman on the big screen so far, the series went from darker to more lighthearted and from realistic to sci fi as well. Some films have been accused of being way too long and as with many people saying Blade Runner 2049 was too long and the original did way more in less time, the same is said of Batman 1989 v some of the later films.

    Batman 1989 was more than a film to a whole generation of people. It was part of their teenage years, it was part of pop culture, it was a reminder there was more to enjoy in the closing days of summer before the back to school and the Autumn set in. Other Batman films were criticised for being too silly or too dark but Batman 1989 got the balance right. It had its darker moments both with Batman's and the Joker's backstories but never let it stop the comic book feel either.

    Batman 1989 is one of my go to films for escapism and to cheer me up if I had a bad day or a bad week. And with all the terrorism and evil in the world, Batman is someone people identify with more than ever. While it is doubtful any Batman film will repeat the Batmania of 1989, the market for quality Batman films is still massive. Let's hope The Batman is one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Paul Walter Hauser is being linked as Penguin.
    The latest rumor comes from Full Circle Cinema and centers on Paul Walter Hauser being up for the role of the Penguin. Hauser is best known for the role of Shawn in I, Tonya and more recently as Ivanhoe in BlacKkKlansman.

    Should this rumor pan out, it’s interesting as its reportedly the second actor being considered from the cast of BlacKkKlansman. Previously we have heard that John David Washington is under consideration for Harvey Dent.

    Also some rumor is going around on Twitter that Chiwetel Ejiofor is under consideration for The Riddler.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    It's open season for the ****e hawk websites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,782 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Also some rumor is going around on Twitter that Chiwetel Ejiofor is under consideration for The Riddler.

    I've always seen the The Riddler as an awkward nerdy guy with a massive ego, dorkily brave when he thinks he has the intellectual uperhand but a coward in physical confrontations. I dont really see Chiwetel Ejiofor like that. William Jackson Harper (Chidi from the Good Place) would be a great Riddler imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Chloe Moretz and Jodie Comer linked to Catwoman role with Richard E. Grant as Alfred


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Hope the rumours are true. Would like to see the Penguin again and would like to see a darker Riddler (as someone said as a nerdy guy with a massive ego) than we got before. The Joker was immortalised by both Nicholson and Ledger and I don't know if anyone else can pull it off successfully a third time. The other possibility here is Batman could be going up against a lot more villains all at once than ever before (it is beginning to look like this). Harvey Dent may appear as a good guy under that name or as his villainous deformed alter ego Two Face. All sorts of rumours that may or may not be true will surface. Initial ideas then could be dropped and replaced.

    It is 7 years since we had the last good Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises. I think we need to get back to the Nolan or Burton type of Batman film. I do believe Reeves has this in mind and the next film will be an antidote to Justice League's ultra sci fi. Batman is NOT Star Wars (I love Star Wars too but will watch Star Wars when I want that and watch Batman when I want that).


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭justinbellford


    I always imagined Matthew Gray Gubler as the Riddler. I think he can walk the super nerdy/unhinged line quite well.

    Doesn't hurt that he also voiced the Riddler in one of the DC animated films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    also some rumor is going around on Twitter that Chiwetel Ejiofor is under consideration for The Riddler.
    I've always seen the The Riddler as an awkward nerdy guy with a massive ego, dorkily brave when he thinks he has the intellectual uperhand but a coward in physical confrontations. I dont really see Chiwetel Ejiofor like that. William Jackson Harper (Chidi from the Good Place) would be a great Riddler imo.

    I like Chiwetel Ejiofor but I cannot see him The Riddler plus I think he is too old now :o
    I always imagined Matthew Gray Gubler as the Riddler. I think he can walk the super nerdy/unhinged line quite well.

    Doesn't hurt that he also voiced the Riddler in one of the DC animated films.

    Matthew would be good

    I think Sam Riley or Joseph Gordon Levitt also could do well as Nygma


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Andderzz


    John David Washington linked as Harvey Dent

    Not surprised at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Andderzz wrote: »
    Not surprised at all.

    True, his star really does seem on the rise at moment (BlacKkKlansman, and TENET next year) which means the inevitable Superhero movie role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,879 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Pierce Brosnan rumoured to be Alfred.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Pierce Brosnan rumoured to be Alfred.

    I could really take or leave Alfred right now.

    Michael Caine did a wonderful job with a performance not particularly inspired by the actual source.

    Sean Pertwee did a decent job continuing Alfred in the Caine inspired mould.

    Jeremy Irons gave a nicely wry job in a nothing role.

    I don't even want to think about the Alfred TV series called Pennyworth.

    Brosnan provokes nothing in me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    I could really take or leave Alfred right now.

    Michael Caine did a wonderful job with a performance not particularly inspired by the actual source.

    Sean Pertwee did a decent job continuing Alfred in the Caine inspired mould.

    Jeremy Irons gave a nicely wry job in a nothing role.

    I don't even want to think about the Alfred TV series called Pennyworth.

    Brosnan provokes nothing in me.

    Your not making your feelings clear on whether you want to see more Alfred in the next movie. :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Brosnans not a bad choice, but I'm more wondering what KIND of Alfred we can expect; lately productions seem to have steered into him being more of a Fixer, ex-SAS guy, than the traditional refined, posh gentleman butler. Even Caines version spoke of a mercenary, military past (and wasn't above smacking people with crowbars, despite his age).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Surely they're going for the ex-James-Bond-type of Alfred then.

    Wouldn't be my choice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    Paul Walter Hauser, the more I see of him the better. He was brilliant in I Tonya and Cobra Kai


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭brevity


    Sam Neil would be a good Alfred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,879 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Surely they're going for the ex-James-Bond-type of Alfred then.

    Wouldn't be my choice.

    They could be going for the Mamma Mia all singing all dawning type Alfred :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Surely they're going for the ex-James-Bond-type of Alfred then.

    Wouldn't be my choice.

    I get the feeling if Pierce Brosnan is Alfred he will be a younger, more active Alfred than what we have been used to in the films from 1989 to now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I get the feeling if Pierce Brosnan is Alfred he will be a younger, more active Alfred than what we have been used to in the films from 1989 to now.

    Pierce Brosnan is 66!


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Fair to suggest the phrase "age is just a number" has never been truer, when noted pentagenarians Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise are still making action films. Dunno what shape Brosnans in these days but what little I've seen he seems in good nick.

    The clipped, snooty but faithful butler trope is long dead, so I doubt we'll see the old fashioned Alfred Pennyworth anytime soon TBH; Brosnan being a "retired Bond" style Alfred would continue the trend of him more Fixer than Butler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    pixelburp wrote: »
    noted pentagenarians Keanu Reeves

    I thought "ah, no.."

    But yeah. 54. Jaysus.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Goodshape wrote: »
    I thought "ah, no.."

    But yeah. 54. Jaysus.

    Heck, Paul Rudd is now 50. Still waiting for him to age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Pierce Brosnan is 66!

    Yip. I was about the say that’s older than when Alan Napier started the tv show. But then there’s that awesome episode where he dresses up as Batman to give Bruce an Alibi. So maybe he will be more active :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    Pierce Brosnan is 66!
    pixelburp wrote: »
    Fair to suggest the phrase "age is just a number" has never been truer, when noted pentagenarians Keanu Reeves and Tom Cruise are still making action films. Dunno what shape Brosnans in these days but what little I've seen he seems in good nick.

    The clipped, snooty but faithful butler trope is long dead, so I doubt we'll see the old fashioned Alfred Pennyworth anytime soon TBH; Brosnan being a "retired Bond" style Alfred would continue the trend of him more Fixer than Butler.

    The latter-day action hero Liam Neeson is 67.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


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    Fake, but I could see it working.

    Macaulay Culkin as one of the villains? Or will he ever shake being Kevin McCallister


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Pierce Brosnan is 66!

    I know that but in Alfred terms, this is young. Michael Gough was 73 for example when he first played him and it was inferred he was playing a character at least 10 years older than that. Same with Michael Caine (72 in Batman Begins but portrayed once more as a man at least 10 years older). I feel Brosnan will be depicted as a more active Alfred and of the age Brosnan actually is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,551 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    with the Alfred from Gotham and Pennyworth being more action orientated I can definitely see them going down this route


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    There was an interesting interview with Pattinson in Variety; he comes across quite enthusiastic about the role, and that he had been chasing it for some time. It also sounds like there's already a batsuit, though these things change so perhaps it was simply a temp. one:

    https://variety.com/2019/film/features/robert-pattinson-batman-the-lighthouse-1203319866/
    He’d been chasing Batman for much longer than anyone knew. Pattinson had heard that Reeves was working on a script that reimagines Bruce Wayne in the younger years of his life. “I’d had Batman in my mind for a while,” Pattinson says. “It’s such an absurd thing to say. I sort of had an idea to do it, and I’d been prodding Matt. He didn’t accept any prods. I kept asking to meet him.”

    [...]
    After “The Lighthouse” screened to a rapturous standing ovation, Pattinson promptly flew back to L.A. to try on the Batsuit for the final phase of the high-stakes audition. “It’s maybe the craziest thing I’ve ever done in terms of movie stuff,” Pattinson says.
    [...]
    “I put it on. I remember saying to Matt, ‘It does feel quite transformative!’ He was like, ‘I would hope it does! You’re literally in the Batsuit.’” Pattinson describes what the moment was like: “You do feel very powerful immediately. And it’s pretty astonishing, something that is incredibly difficult to get into, so the ritual of getting into it is pretty humiliating. You’ve got five people trying to shove you into something. Once you’ve got it on, it’s like, ‘Yeah, I feel strong, I feel tough, even though I had to have someone squeezing my butt cheeks into the legs.’”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    So, he's not going to work out?
    at least affkeck and Bale worked out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,885 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So how are they going to explain what happened to Affleck's batman

    This is a part of the DC universe ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    Pierce Brosnan rumoured to be Alfred.
    I get the feeling if Pierce Brosnan is Alfred he will be a younger, more active Alfred than what we have been used to in the films from 1989 to now.
    Pierce Brosnan is 66!

    Brosnan is currently playing an 80 year old in his TV show "The Son"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    So, he's not going to work out?
    at least affkeck and Bale worked out...

    Affleck – and Cavill – went too far. Looked unhealthy, like they were about to pop.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Affleck – and Cavill – went too far. Looked unhealthy, like they were about to pop.

    Affleck definitely did anyway. You could see the toll his health had taken in JL whenever the reshoots rated their ugly head.

    Cavill doesn't seem to have some of the bad habits Affleck did so to me, he generally looked well and not unhealthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Cavill looked very healthy, and just how you'd expect Superman to look, buff as ****.


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