Clongriffin - Parkedge

Oppybar · 29-06-2015 8:26am

vonbarracuda wrote: »

Is Belltree that timber framed structure they are building or is that the nursing home? Surprised to see timber frame after all the bad press it got last few years

Fwiw ccording to the original plans, the nursing home is to be over on the corner of park row and park avenue. So directly facing the end of the 3-storey row and the first couple of terraced houses on park row.

Gumbo · 29-06-2015 12:16pm

Oppybar wrote: »

Thanks! I'd really appreciate that - as the developer's solicitors are telling me that the Land Reg issue is sorted but they are waiting for compliance certs, it would be very helpful if I could point to publicly available certs to help clarify...

Ok, so it turns out 2 Completion Certs were lodged for the development.
The first one was passed and placed on the register, so them homes are technically complete and can be occupied.

the 2nd Completion Cert was missing some documentation so the developers have to lodge some details in order for the cert to be passed by the Council. At this moment in time they have not lodged the additional documentation.

Oppybar · 29-06-2015 12:25pm

kceire wrote: »

Ok, so it turns out 2 Completion Certs were lodged for the development.
The first one was passed and placed on the register, .

Thanks kc - can you direct me to the register? It would be great to be able to check this out!

mel123 · 29-06-2015 1:26pm

Regarding Belltree, anyone know what the prices will be, just roughly what are we talking? Any ideas?

Gumbo · 29-06-2015 2:43pm

mel123 wrote: »

Regarding Belltree, anyone know what the prices will be, just roughly what are we talking? Any ideas?

No prices tey according to the Estate agents.
They are only taking details of interested parties at the moment.

I registered myself out of curiousity and they called me this morning.

Volthar · 29-06-2015 2:44pm

mel123 wrote: »

Regarding Belltree, anyone know what the prices will be, just roughly what are we talking? Any ideas?

Call SherryFitz who are the selling agent for this development.
Judging by how the prices are in the area I guess it will be similar to the current stage or slightly cheaper because it looks like most if not all will be in wooden framework technology which is much quicker to build. It is just a guess. Much depends on how much "extras" they will push with the sale. Previous stage of Parkedge buyers were getting evacuated tube solar panels, we got PV panels. Previous stage had fully equipped kitchens with all appliances, we only got kitchen furniture. I think Gannon will do something spectacular with Belltree. They say it will be state of art so expect upgraded renewable energy gadgets. All this will affect the price.

I say, because of the deposits needed by banks, 2 bed terraced will go for €220000.

Volthar · 30-06-2015 1:52pm

I went there to take a look at the Belltree construction. I have never seen the actuall process of erecting a wood framework house and man... it is so fast! They will finish it in no time.

Gumbo · 30-06-2015 2:43pm

Volthar wrote: »

I went there to take a look at the Belltree construction. I have never seen the actuall process of erecting a wood framework house and man... it is so fast! They will finish it in no time.

Depends.
Not all of them may be timber frame.

Volthar · 01-07-2015 5:05pm

kceire wrote: »

Depends.
Not all of them may be timber frame.

I just looked at these documents and unless something changed houses on the Park Avenue will be 3 storey similar or same to what was just completed. I guess they will be traditional masonry build.

http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=3802/14&theTabNo=8&backURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%20%3E%20%3Ca%20href=%27wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=2902289%26StartIndex=51%26SortOrder=APNID%26DispResultsAs=wphappsresweek1%26BackURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%27%3ESearch%20Results%3C/a%3E

uli84 · 01-07-2015 5:44pm

Can someone shed some light whats the deal with those PV panels? How do they work?

Volthar · 01-07-2015 5:50pm

Uli84: They give you electricity that you can use for washing etc. provided you are home. Unused energy will go back to the network. As of yet electricity storage is quite expensive but expect prices to go down in near future. Theoretically you could use immersion heater for hot water but mine does not have timer nor a function to use only energy from PV when available. I would prefer evacuated tubes but was not given a choice.

Esb used to offer paying for energy that you are sending back but they cancelled this project.

Gumbo · 01-07-2015 6:20pm

Volthar wrote: »

I just looked at these documents and unless something changed houses on the Park Avenue will be 3 storey similar or same to what was just completed. I guess they will be traditional masonry build.

http://www.dublincity.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=3802/14&theTabNo=8&backURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%20%3E%20%3Ca%20href=%27wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=2902289%26StartIndex=51%26SortOrder=APNID%26DispResultsAs=wphappsresweek1%26BackURL=%3Ca%20href=wphappcriteria.display%3ESearch%20Criteria%3C/a%3E%27%3ESearch%20Results%3C/a%3E

Yeah that was the plan alright. I'll know more tomorrow but there was a pause in construction as they were considering swapping back to block built. Should know the outcome tomorrow.

Volthar wrote: »

Uli84: They give you electricity that you can use for washing etc. provided you are home. Unused energy will go back to the network. As of yet electricity storage is quite expensive but expect prices to go down in near future. Theoretically you could use immersion heater for hot water but mine does not have timer nor a function to use the only way energy from PV when available. I would prefer evacuated tubes but was not given a choice.

Esb used to offer paying for energy that you are sending back but they cancelled this project.

PV panels are not as good as solar IMO but they can be utilised to get the most from them. Seemly you can get a connection so the PV being charged during the day while everybody is at work can power your immersion so at least you are getting hot water from it.

madster · 01-07-2015 8:37pm

Solar Panels were one of the best features of the house. They were advertised by Knight Frank with an entire paragraph specifying how good they are, model, and so on.
I did my research on the Kingspan panels and I was fairly sure I was buying a house with one of the best possible Energy Saving solutions available.

When I saw the PV panels on the roof I was so disappointed that in no way I'm gonna give up on this. This change together with the tech specs of the house was decided on November, and I signed the contract on February. Why in 4 months no one ever mentioned this change to me, nor to my solicitor?

This is clearly not a 'minor' change and this is why:
I agree that you can barely compare the two systems but you can definitely make some reasoning by approximation. I contacted an expert that gave me the following consultation based on an average use of a modern working family, and current average electricity prices (21.83 cent/kWh).

PV panels provided can let you save up to: 193 euro a year IF you have the option to sell electricity (which we do not have, so it would be even lower than that).

The advertised Solar Panels can let you save up to: 330 euro a year.

We are talking about roughly 150 euro a year less than what we were supposed to have.

Since the lifespan of these energies is about 20 years, we just gave 3000 euro of energy away just because the builder wanted to save some money with no update of House Specs on buyers side.

I would not call that a minor change. I would rather claim my 3000 euro back plus lawyer expenses...

Volthar · 01-07-2015 8:56pm

madster wrote: »

This change together with the tech specs of the house was decided on November, and I signed the contract on February. Why in 4 months no one ever mentioned this change to me, nor to my solicitor?

Have you asked them this question?

My situation is slightly different as I have only signed my contract in April. Although when I paid the booking deposit in March I believed we are getting Kingspan this was later clarified by Knight Frank. Obviously I had to pull this information from them as they did not give me tiniest bit of information on their own initiative. Another catch is that by signing the contract you confirmed that you are familiar with specification and so on. I wanted to start a dispute but my solicitor told me I would be wasting my time and money. Maybe you will have more luck.

I am currently investigating if it makes sense to add additional panel to my set (I only have 3). It will make sense as with 2 kids there is always washing, drying, TV and so on.

uli84 · 02-07-2015 12:17am

Pity we can't sell that energy anymore, seen that in the UK it's quite popular. In any case-it's advisable to run whatever appliances during the day, am I getting this right? The bit which is confusing to me is the surplus energy-are those panels really producing so much that there is a potential for some of it to remain unused at times?
I'm Sorry im totally useless when it comes to this sort of stuff but I always thought whatever is produced will definitely be used up during the day.

madster · 02-07-2015 8:31am

Volthar wrote: »

Have you asked them this question?

Yes and they tried to convince me they are equivalent to the previous ones.

To answer Uli84, I believe that in good weather conditions and at pick hours they should definitely be able to generate surplus energy. Obviously I'll try to use most of my energy during the day, but it's not that easy if we are all working...

Volthar · 02-07-2015 8:42am

uli84 wrote: »

Pity we can't sell that energy anymore, seen that in the UK it's quite popular.

There was a scheme like this by ESB / Electric Ireland but they ran it only as a pilot:
https://www.electricireland.ie/residential/help/micro-generation/electric-ireland-micro-generation-pilot-scheme

Are you buying in the current stage or considering Belltree?

george507 · 03-07-2015 6:04pm

Anyone signed the waiver yet? I got that today, not sure if I should sign that.

Volthar · 03-07-2015 6:41pm

george507 wrote: »

Anyone signed the waiver yet? I got that today, not sure if I should sign that.

I did not get it yet. What does it say?
Kceire said most houses now have the completion certs. If you are lucky you may be getting keys next week. In such case signing waver does not make sense anymore, it would if we got it 4 weeks ago when they told us about the delay. Just so you know it looks like you can access your house with your contractors to measure and price works.

*******

As for finishes I am almost certain I will buy laminate floor from http://malahideflooring.ie/
He is not the cheapest but has many types of Balterio panels available in stock while other suppliers told me it will take 2-3 weeks to order.
I am going to hire an independent carpenter to remove skirting boards, adjust architraves, lay the floor and reinstall skirting. Again, all suppliers that also provide the service told me they won't touch the skirting and offered me the hideous looking beading.

for blinds a guy that runs BestPol Blinds http://www.bestpol.ie will come over early next week to measure doors and windows for a quote.

Can anyone recommend garden shed suppliers? I have no idea what to look for as all them sheds look same to me. I got a quote for a 6x8 ft. from http://www.gardenshedsforsale.ie/ but did not get time to actually go there and see how it looks in real life.

chinguetti · 03-07-2015 9:51pm

Volthar wrote: »

Can anyone recommend garden shed suppliers?

Clane Steel Sheds - they've a place in Templeogue. Very good, helpful and would recommend them as I've found them great in getting a shed and answering all my queries. PM me if you want a number.

Volthar · 04-07-2015 11:07am

chinguetti wrote: »

Clane Steel Sheds - they've a place in Templeogue. Very good, helpful and would recommend them as I've found them great in getting a shed and answering all my queries. PM me if you want a number.

Thanks for that. I found their website. I guess steel will be more durable but for looks I will probably go for a wooden one.

Edit: I will likely go for a wooden 8x6 ship lap style shed from http://www.funshoggardensheds.com their website is quite poor so I called them for a quote. They are bit pricey compared to other suppliers but there are also pros: delivery within 1 week and they can also supply 12 solid blocks that otherwise would be a real pain to source. Apparently they have just delivered one of these to someone in Parkedge.

Oppybar · 07-07-2015 9:00am

george507 wrote: »

Anyone signed the waiver yet? I got that today, not sure if I should sign that.

G - I have signed it with a couple of amendments. I got legal advice on it - some risk, but I had finished snagging and practically I wanted to start work and avoid coming up against builders holidays at the end of the month. I am also not hearing anything about completion from KF or through my solicitor, so I am not optimistic on that front - hopefully I'm wrong though!

Gumbo · 07-07-2015 9:53am

Oppybar wrote: »

G - I have signed it with a couple of amendments. I got legal advice on it - some risk, but I had finished snagging and practically I wanted to start work and avoid coming up against builders holidays at the end of the month. I am also not hearing anything about completion from KF or through my solicitor, so I am not optimistic on that front - hopefully I'm wrong though!

Completion Certs from Dublin City Council are on the register since 1st July 2015. There was a delay in the Architects uploading key pieces of information but they done that last week.

The delay from what i hear is on the Land Registry side of things.

jathclare · 07-07-2015 10:17am

Just to let you know I got an 8 * 6 shed from Funshog, nothing wrong with it but took 3 guys to put up, two of which are professional builders and it wasnt easy. If they offer to erect it for you for a fee, save the headache and take up the offer!

Volthar · 07-07-2015 10:27am

jathclare wrote: »

Just to let you know I got an 8 * 6 shed from Funshog, nothing wrong with it but took 3 guys to put up, two of which are professional builders and it wasnt easy. If they offer to erect it for you for a fee, save the headache and take up the offer!

Thanks
The quote I got from them included erecting it and also the 12 concrete blocks that otherwise would be a real pain to source.

kceire wrote: »

The delay from what i hear is on the Land Registry side of things.

I forgot about an email I got 2 weeks ago that says
"land registry maps are in and the developer is now waiting on Building control to sign off so they can get the architects certificates"

With this condition now also satisfied there really should not be any more delays. I still hope I will be able to move in before end of the month.

Oppybar · 07-07-2015 11:56am

kceire wrote: »

Completion Certs from Dublin City Council are on the register since 1st July 2015.

Thanks KC - do you know who holds the register? There is no reference on the DCC site that I can find. I'm curious as to where the register is - as, if the completion cert issue has been resolved and we have been told Land Reg maps are in, surely there can be no reason for further delay?

Gumbo · 07-07-2015 1:34pm

Volthar wrote: »

Thanks
I forgot about an email I got 2 weeks ago that says
"land registry maps are in and the developer is now waiting on Building control to sign off so they can get the architects certificates"

With this condition now also satisfied there really should not be any more delays. I still hope I will be able to move in before end of the month.

The developer is deffo stalling for something? I dont know what?

Oppybar wrote: »

Thanks KC - do you know who holds the register? There is no reference on the DCC site that I can find. I'm curious as to where the register is - as, if the completion cert issue has been resolved and we have been told Land Reg maps are in, surely there can be no reason for further delay?

Dublin City Council holds the register.
Im not sure how you can get to see it though.

Oppybar · 07-07-2015 2:19pm

Thanks KC - I might give DCC a ring and see if I can track the register down. There's definitely a bit of stalling and misinformation going around. My own theory (possibly based on a mistrust of solicitors!) is that the solicitor handling matters for the Vendor was on leave until Monday, 6 July so nothing has moved while she was away!

I have asked KF for an update again today...not unreasonable, given that the last estimate for completion was mid-July...

Volthar · 07-07-2015 2:39pm

Oppybar wrote: »

I have asked KF for an update again today...not unreasonable, given that the last estimate for completion was mid-July...

Please let us know their answer. Given KF called me almost every day asking on progress when I was due signing contract I find it absolutely reasonable that we call them everyday asking on their progress.

I wonder why people who are buying probably the most expensive thing they ever will receive worst possible customer service.

Oppybar · 07-07-2015 3:39pm

V - the answer is still that there is a delay with building control...and they do not know when it will be sorted out...

Honestly - I try not to think about how KF harassed me to sign. The Vendor in this scenario has been ridiculously high-handed and unreasonable and now is being extraordinarily uncommunicative around the delay. It makes me even more furious when I consider that the Vendor is effectively NAMA - so essentially I'm being treated abysmally by a body supposedly operating in the public interest and paid for by taxes... <bangs head off desk> ...my fury is only completed by the fact that dealing with the bank was very, very similar...bringing me back to my point about taxes...and a question as to why I live in this country at all!!

Anyway - I'll keep you updated if I hear anything;) <goes off to calm down>

Oppybar · 07-07-2015 4:03pm

V - very quick update x 2 - just heard from my solicitor and apparently the Vendor's solicitor will have completion docs ready by the end of this week....

I had also just spoken with Building Control in DCC, who confirmed that everything was finished from the Council's perspective some time ago and delay is not related to building control.

Volthar · 07-07-2015 4:17pm

Oppybar wrote: »

V - very quick update x 2 - just heard from my solicitor and apparently the Vendor's solicitor will have completion docs ready by the end of this week....

I had also just spoken with Building Control in DCC, who confirmed that everything was finished from the Council's perspective some time ago and delay is not related to building control.

Nice. I hope I will get sorted too.

Volthar · 08-07-2015 9:48am

As this thread was supposed to be also about finishing our houses I will move away from having a rant about the delay.
As it stands now I am getting following things:

1. Laminates from Malahide Flooring http://malahideflooring.ie/ as he has a good choice and readily available.
2. Floor will be installed by a separate carpenter who will remove/replace skirting boards, cut architraves and also cut an aperture for a hob.
3. Shed from www.funshoggardensheds.com - they can derived within couple of days from when you place an order and can provide concrete blocks
4. Alarm from securigard.ie - I chose them based on their experience. Price and equipment used is more or less same across the industry.
5. Roller blinds from http://www.bestpol.ie/ - someone recommended him but I also looked at other suppliers.
6. Appliances from DID. I planned to order online to save some money but it will now take too long.

I am still looking for:
1. a company that will carpet the stairs
2. landscaper
3. furniture, especially for bathrooms

Volthar · 09-07-2015 5:52pm

Got a call from my solicitor and they have finally received the closing statement from vendor's solicitor. This means I will likely get the keys w/in next 2 weeks. Can't wait.

Oppybar · 10-07-2015 10:49pm

Hey there,
A couple of things that might be helpful as people finish out the houses.

We used the developer's tiler on site to do floors - he was absolutely brilliant and couldn't recommend him more highly. Our tile supplier, on the other hand you should avoid! PM me if you'd like tilers details - or ask Robert on site for them.

Robert, the foreman on site has been hugely helpful in giving us advice and improved our relationship with the developer massively. He is a fountain of knowledge about the myriad little projects that need finishing off and his experience really shows.

We've struggled a bit with carpet suppliers - but that is mainly because I am picky about colour. Carpetrite were very helpful and quick to come out and quote - but I can't find a carpet there that I'd want to live with. We'll look further over the weekend!

Finally, so far very impressed with the electrician/plumber/gas installer and all round problem solver who is sorting out extra lights, sockets etc. for us as well as hob etc. Again - PM me for details.

Still unsure on shed (probably clane, as I will never maintain a wooden shed!), furniture (I mean what do people put telly's on these days?!) and some kind of storage solution for bikes, but sure it'll all work out, right?!

chinguetti · 15-07-2015 2:59pm

Can anyone help on the matter of waste collections? I rang around a few places and all bar one claim that they don't collect in the area. This is despite the fact that there are bins for two of these companies at the new 3 storey blocks facing Fr Collins Park. When I pointed this out, they remain adamant that they will not collect around the corner.

If anyone has any info on who they are using for waste collections, I'ld be very grateful. Thanks.

Volthar · 15-07-2015 3:05pm

chinguetti wrote:

If anyone has any info on who they are using for waste collections, I'ld be very grateful. Thanks.

I called City Bin Co.
They say they serve the area and quoted me â‚¬27 per month

vervloekte · 18-07-2015 12:44pm

Hi everyone !

Me and my husband are also future happy owners of one of the terraced houses on Dermott street and I would like to ask for some tip/advice. You mentioned that you contacted builder regarding the tiles in the kitchen and that you intend to tile entire dining area as well. If it's not a prob, can you share the company that sold the tiles and did the tiling as I am also thinking of tiling the dining area?

Volthar · 18-07-2015 12:47pm

Hi, talk to Rob. He will likely be able to help you with this.

Oppybar · 18-07-2015 8:23pm

vervloekte wrote: »

can you share the company that sold the tiles and did the tiling as I am also thinking of tiling the dining area?

Hey V, I cannot recommend our tile supplier, as different tiles turned up to the ones I'd paid for, much lower quality and I had a battle on my hands to sort it out! I do recommend Dylan, the tiler on site though, he did an excellent job and had offered to see if he could source the tiles I needed - I'd already bought them though! He can source them outside Dublin which is a bit cheaper...I think some people have found him a bit more expensive than the norm for tiling...but well worth it in my view!

DM me if you'd like details of tile stores to avoid;)

Volthar · 19-07-2015 9:27am

Hi All,
I just found out that I only have a 13A connection for the oven. Unfortunately I have only realised this once the snag list was closed. Am I right thinking this limits me to less powerful ovens and I can effectively forget about pyrolytic cleaning? How is it in your houses?

madster · 20-07-2015 12:46pm

Volthar wrote: »

Hi All,
I just found out that I only have a 13A connection for the oven. Unfortunately I have only realised this once the snag list was closed. Am I right thinking this limits me to less powerful ovens and I can effectively forget about pyrolytic cleaning? How is it in your houses?

Hello, I'm not sure of my oven connection, but I eventually went for a Gas oven, so I might avoid at least this issue.

I was wondering if anyone of you signed the Waiver btw... ^ ^

Volthar · 20-07-2015 1:10pm

I went for a gas hob but electric oven. In my kitchen the place for the oven is on the opposite side from the hob. Are you sure you have a gas connection for your oven? In my house there is only gas connection for the hob.

madster · 20-07-2015 2:07pm

No connection, but according to Robert it should be fairly easy for a plumber to do it, by removing the kitchen toe kick.

Oppybar · 20-07-2015 8:02pm

Volthar wrote: »

Hi All,
I just found out that I only have a 13A connection for the oven. How is it in your houses?

Hey V - probably not much help as I had an electrician in - but it seems odd to me. My ovens came with a health warning that they needed high levels of power but the electrician said there was no difficulty with the ovens given the power installed already.

Oppybar · 20-07-2015 8:11pm

madster wrote: »

I was wondering if anyone of you signed the Waiver btw... ^ ^

M - I signed the waiver a couple of weeks ago to get moving on work on the house. I mentioned it up the thread a bit - had a solicitor check it and a level of risk I was comfortable with. I got keys last Thursday and am finishing up in the next couple of days to move in:)

athtrasna · 20-07-2015 8:16pm

Oppybar please use the multi quote button when replying to multiple posts. Thanks

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Volthar · 20-07-2015 8:37pm

I looked up floor plans in the brochure and it seems only semi detached houses are affected by this issue. Basically all kitchens in our houses have 1 high power connection each in kitchens and these are located where your hob will go. Even-though ovens are not in exactly same place you can just use a longer cable as in most kitchens in Parkedge kitchen furniture run along one side. This however is a problem in my house where oven is on the opposite side of the kitchen. See the floor plan in attachment. Oven slot is in yellow, the location of the high powered socket marked by the red arrow. I should have checked it so I guess it is my fault. If I knew it before hands I would ask the furniture guys to make a space fro the oven underneath the hob, the classic way, and turn the oven space into storage.

By the way new houses in Belltree will get the Kingspan panels as was originally planned for our phase.

Oppybar · 21-07-2015 9:55am

athtrasna wrote: »

Oppybar please use the multi quote button when replying to multiple posts.

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Oops! Apologies - I'm new here:/

chinguetti · 22-07-2015 5:57pm

Volthar wrote: »

I called City Bin Co.
They say they serve the area and quoted me â‚¬27 per month

I rang City Bin earlier and they told me that they don't service the area. I pointed out that they had told other people that they service the area and they half rowed back on their statement and will ring me back tomorrow.

<bangs head off keyboard>

Clongriffin - Parkedge

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