Schools Cup 2014/2015 *mod warning post 1*

Hagz wrote: »

Am I missing something? I don't think that piece was written by Gavin Cummiskey.

Im not referring to that particular piece. I am referring to his cynical and negative analysis over the years. I clearly remember where he referred to an alleged eye gouging incident involving a prominent Clongowes player about 5 years ago. Totally provocative trite. In his preview of this years SC final, he refers to the " potential weakness of the Roscrea kicker who had a four from 12 record. Lazy , lazy journalism as practically all of these kicks were from the left touchline for a left legged kicker. Reading this sort of rubbish journalism as a schools player is not helpful . The player in question actually went on to nail 2 crucial second half kicks . My point is , that when Cummiskey is writing about schools players he ought to remember that they are kids trying their best.

RobbieRuns wrote: »

That's a poor result.

Hey ding dong you ought to remember that 4 or 5 of these lads played in hugely important games, in fact games that are of much more significance than a mickey mouse warm up game in Dundee. . And many of these boys are doing their Leaving Cert chasing 500+ points. Many of them are at boarding school where they havent been home for a month or more. They led 10-3 at htime and understandably got tired and disjointed in the second half when many switches were made. So before you give your silly throwaway remarks just give it a little thought. These guys are 17-18 year old kids giving of their best in trying circumstances.

OceanSixteen wrote: »

Scotland U18s beat Ireland U18 schools 21-13

Surprised at that. Poor ish result

rughug wrote: »

Hey ding dong you ought to remember that 4 or 5 of these lads played in hugely important games, in fact games that are of much more significance than a mickey mouse warm up game in Dundee. . And many of these boys are doing their Leaving Cert chasing 500+ points. Many of them are at boarding school where they havent been home for a month or more. They led 10-3 at htime and understandably got tired and disjointed in the second half when many switches were made. So before you give your silly throwaway remarks just give it a little thought. These guys are 17-18 year old kids giving of their best in trying circumstances.

Small bit OTT rughug...
Why not send a mixed team of clubs and schools players to play FIRA then... Its a fair enough point to say its a poor result. As for the boarding school comment....

How long were Scotland together? Ireland would've only met up a few days ago after loads played in cup finals?

rughug wrote: »

At least 5 key players on that team had one of the most important games of their young lives just last Tuesday and were out with their friends late in to tuesday night. Give the guys a break.Better to judge them on their FIRA performance and the clubs team have their own tournament.

Personally I would not have selected anyone of the finalists in Schools Provincial Cups as winner still probably on too much of a high after winning and losers on too much of a low. In the great scheme of things not a particularly important loss.

It's on Setanta.

16:15 kick off

22 mins in and Rock are 5-0 up and look the slightly better side

Don't quite know how Terenure are still in this game! Some great back play from both teams but 'Rocks pack look way better drilled.

La Grue missed a penalty and then knocked over a subsequent one.

8-5 Terenure. 25 mins left

Rock turned down kickable penalties on a couple of occasions and managed to get over the line.

2nd Try for the Rock 7 McGagh converted by Caputo

13-12 Nure.
Game very much on

All over.
49th junior cup for Rock and third in a row.

There'll be some strength in depth in their senior set up next year

'Is it just me , or do many genuine schools rugby supporters find that what Gavin Scummiskey writes in his match reports is the greatest load of ****e that was ever written.He ought to be writing about soccer in one of the tabloids .I do hope that he enjoyed watching the munster and connacht lads storming the RDS on tuesday last. His hero- worship of Madigan, Fitzgerald, Timoney etc would make you want to vomit. He openly criticises 17 and 18 yr old young fellas who have spent countless hours in pursuit of success for their schools.Obviously he never made the grade during his time in Williamstown. .Contrast his bitter twisted style of reporting with that of T.Ward who always comes across with notes of praise for these kids . Our Gav has
obviously got a plank on his shoulder.' Rugerhugs






Totally agree with you, he's dreadful, so biased he should be working for the KGB. Tony Ward is way fairer, he understands the whole system perfectly, the cups are not just about 'Rock, Clongowes, Michaels. That's why to see Roscrea win it this year is so heart warming, their tradition of giving everything in the cup competitions win lose or draw over the years means all that effort and all those players and past pupils who have represented and supported the school deserve a share in this glory. The kind of guff Cummisky writes is deeply disrespectful to those people who have been in and played for the smaller/unfashionable schools if all he can see is the usual suspects. And don't get me started on the two clowns who commentate on the games for Setanta..

albacrypts wrote: »

Personally I would not have selected anyone of the finalists in Schools Provincial Cups as winner still probably on too much of a high after winning and losers on too much of a low. In the great scheme of things not a particularly important loss.

I don't think any player would or should turn down chance to play for their country. In greater scheme of things not an important loss but the side needed a game ahead of the FIRA competition and the guys who played in schools finals will be needed in that competition so get everyone up to speed in game ahead of that competition

Seymourbobs wrote: »

Totally agree with you, he's dreadful, so biased he should be working for the KGB. Tony Ward is way fairer, he understands the whole system perfectly, the cups are not just about 'Rock, Clongowes, Michaels. That's why to see Roscrea win it this year is so heart warming, their tradition of giving everything in the cup competitions win lose or draw over the years means all that effort and all those players and past pupils who have represented and supported the school deserve a share in this glory. The kind of guff Cummisky writes is deeply disrespectful to those people who have been in and played for the smaller/unfashionable schools if all he can see is the usual suspects. And don't get me started on the two clowns who commentate on the games for Setanta..

Cummiskey doesn't deserve all this criticism and Ward has his faults as well...

Is their many more competitions to be finished across the provinces? Development/Emerging Cup finals in Connacht are Wednesday in Sportsground but many other finals to be played?

Irish under 18 schools start FIRA competition tomorrow when they play Georgia

Squad listed below. Team for opening game not named yet
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/34227.php#.VRQtVaOvncs