Spring 2019 - General Discussion

Graces7 · 22-05-2019 6:49am

highdef wrote: »

Why is it being unseasonably cool a good thing?

Because we do not all like excessive heat :rolleyes:

Yesterday was perfect; warm enough to sit out in the sun without roasting. hoping today will develop the same but even met ie speak of almost flat calm. which means midges

Flat calm out there. Between midges and hay fever I am banjaxed..

highdef · 22-05-2019 8:05am

Graces7 wrote: »

Because we do not all like excessive heat :rolleyes:

Yeah but unseasonably cool in May basically means cold. May is not a particularly warm month, in any case. So for it to be unseasonably cool means that it's rather cold.

I don't think "excessive heat" is in any part of this argument, just the discussion of an unusually cold late spring month. Fair enough if we were encroaching on 30c during the month of May, then excessive heat could be brought into the equation but for most regions of the country on most days, mid teens seems to be the order of the day for the maximum temperature. Sometimes a bit warmer, sometimes a bit cooler but on the the whole it's inarguably been a very cool month thus far with the drier than normal weather being the only thing that's kept the month from feeling unpleasant.

Oneiric 3 · 22-05-2019 12:53pm

Grass beginning to show signs of stress here with a clear 'yellowing' along verges & edges. Open fields nearby not looking so bad, probably because of early morning mists that have allowed some trace moisture to be collected.

Looked like the heavens were going to open here 30 mins ago, and one or 2 big drops did fall but that was it.

gozunda · 22-05-2019 2:53pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Grass beginning to show signs of stress here with a clear 'yellowing' along verges & edges. Open fields nearby not looking so bad, probably because of early morning mists that have allowed some trace moisture to be collected.

Looked like the heavens were going to open here 30 mins ago, and one or 2 big drops did fall but that was it.

Heavy clay here. Ground has turned very hard. Water table way down. Grass growth in fields poor for this time of year tbh.

acequion · 22-05-2019 3:49pm

For me personally this May has been close to perfect. I wouldn't want a roasting May, it would be very inconvenient in my line of work and as somebody pointed out already, it's not even summer yet. I get all summery from June. I generally go for a sun holiday in early June and come back acclimatised to high temps and wanting them here,though the roasting temps rarely materialise in Kerry. But hey[before anyone attacks me] that's just me! Weather,costs,taxes and aging are things we all experience and each in his own personal way.

The brightness and sunshine this May has been a balm to the soul. Getting up each morning to a crystal clear view of the magnificent Macgillycuddy Reeks to the south, etched against a blue sky and the late, late light of the evenings,being able to go beach walking at 9pm, is just marvellous. While I'd miss my heat, I'd trade it just for a summer of this fabulous brightness and clarity.

Oscar Bravo · 22-05-2019 3:56pm

^ great post

The_Brood · 22-05-2019 5:10pm

Freezing in Dublin everyone in winter coats. Im certain previous Mays were nicer. Whever global warming is taking place, it certainly skipped Ireland.

Gonzo · 22-05-2019 5:24pm

The_Brood wrote: »

Freezing in Dublin everyone in winter coats. Im certain previous Mays were nicer. Whever global warming is taking place, it certainly skipped Ireland.

Dublin and the east coast has generally had a cool May so far, first week of May was like the middle of winter. The past 2 weeks have been much better in terms of dryness but temperatures have struggled a bit.

It's certainly been milder further west and south. Cool May's in Dublin are not unusual. We often get an easterly in May with sea breezes off a cold Irish sea really shaving the edge off the temperatures within 60km of the Irish Sea coastline.

Hopefully June will bring us some proper warmth.

Oneiric 3 · 22-05-2019 5:44pm

UK Met Office 10 day forecast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD6FWi5T8eE

I don't know what it is lately, but these forecasts by the once renowned UK Met have become increasingly dumbed down in a sort of Americanised way, and with regards this particular presenter, who seems to be some sort of head honcho, his obsession with the 'jet stream' is really becoming off-putting and increasingly grating to listen to. He can barely go 10 second without mentioning it, not just in this particular forecast, but in pretty much any video forecast that he presents. Add to this the ridiculously animated style of presenting, which in fairness, is not exclusive to this lad. It really makes you wonder if UK weather presenters have to take dance lessons before they become TV presenters?

Say what you like about our own TV forecasters, but at least they haven't succumbed to this US friendly, in your face style of presenting just yet. Far classier altogether.

lawred2 · 22-05-2019 5:44pm

The_Brood wrote: »

Freezing in Dublin everyone in winter coats. Im certain previous Mays were nicer. Whever global warming is taking place, it certainly skipped Ireland.

I've been out the back doing some bits and pieces and I've found it a warm evening

Clonmel1000 · 22-05-2019 5:46pm

Tried to sit out this evening but the wind is just a bit too cool for my liking. Very warm to me would be temps in excess of 25 degrees. I doubt it’s more than 15 at the moment and the breeze is taking the edge right off it as it’s done for most of this month.

ZX7R · 22-05-2019 6:22pm

Super day today, even managed to get a little sunburn

lawred2 · 22-05-2019 6:41pm

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Tried to sit out this evening but the wind is just a bit too cool for my liking. Very warm to me would be temps in excess of 25 degrees. I doubt it’s more than 15 at the moment and the breeze is taking the edge right off it as it’s done for most of this month.

Trying not to be smart here but if you're waiting around for days in excess of 25 degrees you could very well be spending the entire year indoors.

highdef · 22-05-2019 7:22pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Trying not to be smart here but if you're waiting around for days in excess of 25 degrees you could very well be spending the entire year indoors.

Big difference between 15 and 25c though. If 25c is considered very warm (which I would generally agree with), about 20c would be considered warm if accompanied by light winds and fairly unbroken sunshine. With a breeze going and/or cloudy spells, it would need to be around 22/23c before I'd consider it warm.

Again, each to their own however I have to agree about the fantastic clarity and visibility. The air source, which has regularly being sourced from continental Europe, had resulted in some extremely low humidity at times which had led to some stunning visibility.

Gonzo · 22-05-2019 7:34pm

chilly enough evening here in Meath, currently only 12C. Next week looks even cooler with daytime temperatures struggling between 9 and 14C for many places. Cool conditions lasting into early June with temperatures recovering from about 4th June.

Clonmel1000 · 22-05-2019 8:24pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Trying not to be smart here but if you're waiting around for days in excess of 25 degrees you could very well be spending the entire year indoors.

Trust me I’m not waiting around for it but I’m just pointing out that 15 degrees is not my idea of very warm. No likes in that I know but each to their own.

Clonmel1000 · 22-05-2019 8:25pm

highdef wrote: »

Big difference between 15 and 25c though. If 25c is considered very warm (which I would generally agree with), about 20c would be considered warm if accompanied by light winds and fairly unbroken sunshine. With a breeze going and/or cloudy spells, it would need to be around 22/23c before I'd consider it warm.

Again, each to their own however I have to agree about the fantastic clarity and visibility. The air source, which has regularly being sourced from continental Europe, had resulted in some extremely low humidity at times which had led to some stunning visibility.

Would agree 100% with this.

Graces7 · 23-05-2019 7:53am

highdef wrote: »

Yeah but unseasonably cool in May basically means cold. May is not a particularly warm month, in any case. So for it to be unseasonably cool means that it's rather cold.

I don't think "excessive heat" is in any part of this argument, just the discussion of an unusually cold late spring month. Fair enough if we were encroaching on 30c during the month of May, then excessive heat could be brought into the equation but for most regions of the country on most days, mid teens seems to be the order of the day for the maximum temperature. Sometimes a bit warmer, sometimes a bit cooler but on the the whole it's inarguably been a very cool month thus far with the drier than normal weather being the only thing that's kept the month from feeling unpleasant.

You are misunderstanding as you are seeing/assessing it from a tech meteorological view whereas my view is subjective.

And no no excessive heat and I did not say there was but just enough to make sitting out pleasant even for very old folk who cannot tolerate excessive heat and to whom excessive has a personal rather techn meaning

Mid teens is perfection. anything more is too much! It has been thus a perfect week weather wise. Hardly VERY cool, but again thi sis always subjective

Offline now a few weeks due to increasing illness. Blessings and peace

Graces7 · 23-05-2019 7:57am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Trust me I’m not waiting around for it but I’m just pointing out that 15 degrees is not my idea of very warm. No likes in that I know but each to their own.

exactly so! I was raised during the War and after without central heating and find folks seem these days to need far far more heating than we ever had,

The mid teens is as high as is comfortable FOR ME. Last summer was torture. lol.. vive la difference

ps raining water and midges here

Over and out..not enough well to stay

Reckless Abandonment · 23-05-2019 9:42am

Anyone else having trouble seeing MT forecasts.
It will show new post 2hours ago but when I open it, yesterday's forecast is the newest one
. This only happens every now and then..

sryanbruen · 23-05-2019 9:43am

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Anyone else having trouble seeing MT forecasts.
It will show new post 2hours ago but when I open it, yesterday's forecast is the newest one
. This only happens every now and then..

That happens to me nearly all the time on mobile. On PC, I've never had the issue.

snowgal · 23-05-2019 9:56am

Graces7 wrote: »

exactly so! I was raised during the War and after without central heating and find folks seem these days to need far far more heating than we ever had,

The mid teens is as high as is comfortable FOR ME. Last summer was torture. lol.. vive la difference

ps raining water and midges here

Over and out..not enough well to stay

aw hope you feel better Graces7. Keep us posted

Mortelaro · 23-05-2019 10:06am

sryanbruen wrote: »

That happens to me nearly all the time on mobile. On PC, I've never had the issue.

No issues here on mobile
Incidentally Met Éireann's forecast this morning differs on tomorrow's showers
He says connaught and South Ulster

They say mainly in the East
Big difference

highdef · 23-05-2019 10:18am

Graces7 wrote: »

You are misunderstanding as you are seeing/assessing it from a tech meteorological view whereas my view is subjective.

And no no excessive heat and I did not say there was but just enough to make sitting out pleasant even for very old folk who cannot tolerate excessive heat and to whom excessive has a personal rather techn meaning

Mid teens is perfection. anything more is too much! It has been thus a perfect week weather wise. Hardly VERY cool, but again thi sis always subjective

Maybe it's a local thing. You live off the west coast so higher temperatures are far less likely than on the mainland so you would most likely be used to lower overall temperatures than the majority of people in Ireland.

Having said that, there are a lot of elderly people living in the part of Dublin where I work. At 15c, any of them out and about will be wrapped up in a heavy winter jacket, the ladies with head scarfs and the gents with flat caps. Even when the temperatures are nearer the 20c mark, most will still be in full winter outfits which is what I have learned to expect.....older people seem to need more heat around them to keep warm. Obviously a continued rise in temperatures will eventually become too warm for various groups of people especially when the outside temperatures reaches a point where it's difficult to cool your dwelling.

SleetAndSnow · 23-05-2019 1:30pm

Overcast in cork today for the first time in a while, had a light shower aswell. Just saw the 1pm weather though showing 20 degrees in the south tomorrow

expectationlost · 23-05-2019 2:08pm

met eireann is telling me its 18 degrees celsius in dublin today???? in north dublin its overcast and cold

highdef · 23-05-2019 2:46pm

expectationlost wrote: »

met eireann is telling me its 18 degrees celsius in dublin today???? in north dublin its overcast and cold

I just checked the met Eireann forecast for the Dublin region and it's forecasting highs of 14c to 16c today with mainly cloudy conditions but some brighter spells through the afternoon, together with light variable winds. I'm just back from a 5km walk around the Dublin 8 area and forecast sounds spot in. Could be nearer the 17c for me due to urban heat Island effect but that would be typical.

Looking at the latest readings from Dublin airport (probably your nearest official met station) and at 14:00 it was 16c there, which ties in well with the forecast.

Can you link to your 18c forecast for the Dublin region, according to Met Eireann? The forecast details sometimes differ. I was looking on the www version.

In any case 2c lower than the 18c you mention is very little. With winds being light and variable, there's a chance you've and onshore breeze if you're located close to the coast. That would bring temperatures down a little bit more than widely forecasted for the region but this would be considered more of a microclimate issue.

nacho libre · 23-05-2019 4:57pm

A summer with temperatures between 22- 24 degrees would be ideal for me. I am not a fan of temperatures in the high twenties to low 30s - especially when you are stuck in heavy traffic.

pad199207 · 23-05-2019 5:24pm

nacho libre wrote: »

A summer with temperatures between 22- 24 degrees would be ideal for me. I am not a fan of temperatures in the high twenties to low 30s - especially when you are stuck in heavy traffic.

That’s why we have the beautiful invention of Air Con ;-)

highdef · 23-05-2019 6:23pm

pad199207 wrote: »

That’s why we have the beautiful invention of Air Con ;-)

Thankfully now included on basically all new cars, right down to poverty spec. Air con is an essential in a car, summer and winter, for different reasons.

Donegal Storm · 23-05-2019 6:37pm

All depends on what you're used to, I spent a few years in Australia and Asia and by the time I left I found anything below around 21 or 22C cold and could comfortably deal with mid 30's. I suspect if I had to do a days work in that heat now I'd find it unbearable

Another nice day today for that matter, cool breeze again but good amounts of sunshine

Gonzo · 23-05-2019 7:03pm

I think everyone has slightly different comfort zones in the summer. As we are generally a very cool country, most peoples idea of what is warm or too warm would still be considered cool in most other countries.

We don't use air conditioning so any warmth we do get, is multiplied indoors by having no air conditioning, which causes alot of people here to feel uncomfortable once the temperature goes past 20C.

For me, an ideal comfortable summer temperature would be about 22C to 32C. Anything less than 21C just feels cool to me, especially if there is a breeze, doesn't help that my home is an ice box most of the year and takes forever for the warmth to get going inside the house after the buildup of cold throughout winter and spring.

nacho libre · 23-05-2019 7:17pm

pad199207 wrote: »

That’s why we have the beautiful invention of Air Con ;-)

Yes, but not standard in older cars:(

I suppose if temperatures in the low 30s were the norm i'd get use to it.

acequion · 23-05-2019 9:08pm

Graces7 wrote: »

exactly so! I was raised during the War and after without central heating and find folks seem these days to need far far more heating than we ever had,

The mid teens is as high as is comfortable FOR ME. Last summer was torture. lol.. vive la difference

ps raining water and midges here

Over and out..not enough well to stay

Mind yourself Graces and do indeed keep us posted. Glad you've enjoyed this nice spell of weather.

acequion · 23-05-2019 9:19pm

Gonzo wrote: »

I think everyone has slightly different comfort zones in the summer. As we are generally a very cool country, most peoples idea of what is warm or too warm would still be considered cool in most other countries.

We don't use air conditioning so any warmth we do get, is multiplied indoors by having no air conditioning, which causes alot of people here to feel uncomfortable once the temperature goes past 20C.

For me, an ideal comfortable summer temperature would be about 22C to 32C. Anything less than 21C just feels cool to me, especially if there is a breeze, doesn't help that my home is an ice box most of the year and takes forever for the warmth to get going inside the house after the buildup of cold throughout winter and spring.

That would be mine too. In fact 30 is just lovely.

But being a real season junkie, for me it's all about the season. Right now in May I'm perfectly happy with temps in the teens,but in high summer I find the teens far too cold.

My house is the opposite to yours though Gonzo. Being south facing, with lots of glass and timber framed, it's a real hot house and very warm summer nights can be tough without at least a fan. But in cool summers it's a micro climate here indoors and I like it. I'm often surprised when I venture outside how cool it actually is.

highdef · 23-05-2019 10:53pm

acequion wrote: »

But being a real season junkie, for me it's all about the season. Right now in May I'm perfectly happy with temps in the teens,but in high summer I find the teens far too cold.

Ok, so it's still May so you want Spring temperatures. So if it's 20c on the 31st of May, does that mean that it will be a bit too warm for you? Conversely, if it's 20c the following day, is it then a bit unseasonably cool for your liking?

highdef · 23-05-2019 10:56pm

acequion wrote: »

Being south facing, with lots of glass and timber framed, it's a real hot house and very warm summer nights can be tough without at least a fan. But in cool summers it's a micro climate here indoors and I like it. I'm often surprised when I venture outside how cool it actually is.

I've built a new garden from scratch behind the existing back garden. Through careful planning of what goes where and the materials used for non flora areas, not only is the new back garden consistently warmer than the existing back garden by an average of 2/3c but it also normally has very little wind, all due to careful planning. A true microclimate!

ninebeanrows · 24-05-2019 12:01am

Don't forget to breath, it ain't good for you if you don't :P

pauldry · 24-05-2019 12:05am

Well 10mm in first 24 days of May is about to end up as 30 to 40mm by months end. A lot of NW messy drizzle n showers to end May.

Still hope dry returns for June so kids can live outside like they have for past month.

Mortelaro · 24-05-2019 9:26am

pauldry wrote: »

Well 10mm in first 24 days of May is about to end up as 30 to 40mm by months end. A lot of NW messy drizzle n showers to end May.

Still hope dry returns for June so kids can live outside like they have for past month.

Only 14.8mm here in Arklow in may
Nothing yesterday and a beautiful warm morning so far nudging 16c already

I'd imagine the overnight rain Saturday into Sunday here will delivery little
But at least we got that 15mm,some got next to nothing :eek:

Clonmel1000 · 24-05-2019 10:24am

Cool cloudy morning here. I’d hate to see this slipping into June. Any sign of some hot sunny weather forecast?

lawred2 · 24-05-2019 10:32am

feeling mild under some cloud cover in Dublin - no breeze which helps. Sun trying to break through the cloud.

Gonzo · 24-05-2019 11:06am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Cool cloudy morning here. I’d hate to see this slipping into June. Any sign of some hot sunny weather forecast?

not for the forseeable future. We have a cold snap next week, then after that there is a chance of some warmer weather from about the 7th of June, but that is deep in FI.

Clonmel1000 · 24-05-2019 11:10am

Gonzo wrote: »

not for the forseeable future. We have a cold snap next week, then after that there is a chance of some warmer weather from about the 7th of June, but that is deep in FI.

Thanks Gonzo it’s 13.5 degrees here now and very dark and overcast. I’m always afraid that our summer can drift along with temps like this or a little higher. Certainly doesn’t feel mild here though. Hopefully a bit of warmth tomorrow though.

Elmer Blooker · 24-05-2019 12:13pm

sunny spells and 20.3c which I think is the first 20+ of the month in my parts which just shows how chilly May has been on the east coast.

Gonzo · 24-05-2019 1:00pm

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

sunny spells and 20.3c which I think is the first 20+ of the month in my parts which just shows how chilly May has been on the east coast.

currently only 16C here at Dunshaughlin and completely cloudy. 18C has been the highest temperature so far this month at my location. This May has been a bitter dissapointment in terms of temperatures with temperatures struggling in the low teens for the majority of the month so far. We've had fires lit on about 17 evenings throughout this month.

pauldry · 24-05-2019 1:38pm

13c in Sligo trying to drizzle . cold.

pad199207 · 24-05-2019 1:41pm

Cloudy and Mild in N Kildare 18c

km79 · 24-05-2019 1:47pm

Dull but feels pleasant in east Galway
Haven’t had to war a jumper never mind a jacket this week
I’ll take that !

Mortelaro · 24-05-2019 1:55pm

18c in Arklow, its sunny and beautiful out and about,feels warm

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