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Tiger King [Netflix]

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  • #52
    Cina
    Registered Users Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Cina


    I cringed pretty much every time Carole said "hey all you cats and kittens out there" or whatever it was.

    Honestly I'm not sure how she got to the husband before he got to her.


  • #53
    whatever76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76


    There is something off with Carole there is no doubting that - way too sweet to be wholesome ; she was running her own type of Cult I think. she really got into Joe's head though - his threats were way out of line and her not reacting and remaining nice a calm made him worse , she knew what she was doing.

    Actually conflicted telling people watch it as underneath it all outside of all the crazy characters and their antics which in itself is fascinating - the animal abuse was just awful to watch - wish there were no Animals involved !


  • #54
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    whatever76 wrote: »
    There is something off with Carole there is no doubting that - way too sweet to be wholesome ; she was running her own type of Cult I think. she really got into Joe's head though - his threats were way out of line and her not reacting and remaining nice a calm made him worse , she knew what she was doing.

    Actually conflicted telling people watch it as underneath it all outside of all the crazy characters and their antics which in itself is fascinating - the animal abuse was just awful to watch - wish there were no Animals involved !

    That kind of got glossed over but yeah. :(


  • #55
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭briany


    OK, I have to be fair to Carol Baskin and post this link that I came across on her website

    https://bigcatrescue.org/refuting-netflix-tiger-king/

    This is pretty much a page of rebuttals to certain perceptions of Carol and her business that she felt the documentary unfairly created.


  • #56
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    maebee wrote: »
    There's nothing likable about Joe, imo. He is cruel to animals :(. He's wired to the moon. I'm only on ep. 4 but reckon she "disappeared" her first husband. Mental, the lot of them.

    How is she less cruel?

    She cages animals too

    Joe is a degenerate space cadet and fully certifiable but he's great TV, he's a pathetic loser

    That Jeff Lowe guy is an evil scumbag however


  • #57
    TiGeR KiNgS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    How is she less cruel?

    She cages animals too

    Joe is a degenerate space cadet and fully certifiable but he's great TV, he's a pathetic loser

    That Jeff Lowe guy is an evil scumbag however

    How dare you :eek:


  • #58
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The way she scammed her dead husbands family out of proper inheritance was scummy.


  • #59
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    ricero wrote: »
    The way she scammed her dead husbands family out of proper inheritance was scummy.

    she came from nothing and inherited her first husbands money but due to presumably needing respectability along with money , she needed a respected man in her life ( current husband - the stiff ) , she is now herself respectable , shes the kind who clawed her way to the top , she was once trash , butter wouldnt melt in her mouth , shes ghastly

    everyone in the show is trash


  • #60
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    How is she less cruel?

    She cages animals too

    Joe is a degenerate space cadet and fully certifiable but he's great TV, he's a pathetic loser

    That Jeff Lowe guy is an evil scumbag however

    Did you miss the part of the documentary where they showed roadshows and just generally bothering the animals?


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  • #61
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    maebee wrote: »
    Some Americans are batsh1t crazy.

    Have a look on twitter. A large amount of them went straight to "people with guns are coming to take my supplies" and went to bulk buy guns and ammo when the current crisis started. What a way to live life when community spirit is basically "ill be nice to my neighbour but at the first hint of an issue, I'm going to assume he'll be storming my house for toilet paper"


  • #62
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,226 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    everyone in the show is trash


    Most of the main players definitely had an air of crookedness, but I thought some of the secondary people like Saff were redeemable.


  • #63
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    maebee wrote: »
    On episode 4 here. It's the most mental program/series I've ever seen on any TV, ever. It's off the wall. Disturbing viewing but I would recommend it as good for lock-down viewing. Some Americans are batsh1t crazy.

    I watched the Louis Theroux documentary featuring Joe Exotic and some dope in it was like “Yeah, I’d like to have a tiger. A small one like that” pointing to a tiger cub. Like he thought it would stay that small.

    Louis’s reactions to the wild animals are priceless throughout.


  • #64
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    briany wrote: »
    Most of the main players definitely had an air of crookedness, but I thought some of the secondary people like Saff were redeemable.

    I didn’t know what to make of Saff. Sound or deluded, I just don’t know.


  • #65
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Finished it tonight. Totally bizarre.


  • #66
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The fúcking jet-ski scene.

    "Yeah, I'll do your documentary but you guys gotta do something for me...."


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  • #67
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Just on the election they mentioned

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Oklahoma_gubernatorial_election#Results_4

    He finished 3rd of 3 in the Libertarian primary. He got 664 votes of 3,558 total votes

    They kinda make out like his finished 3rd in the governor elections

    On the show, I watched after the big hype and found it a slight let down. Do have some sympathy for Joe as I think initially his heart was in the right place but he kinda lost the run of himself


  • #68
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I may have lived a very sheltered life but this was brilliant.


  • #69
    False Prophet
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭False Prophet


    Some interesting stuff on this
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1241460363658285056.html


  • #70
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I watched the first 3 episodes last night.

    During the first episode I had a feeling about Carole, after episode 2... I was glad of my instincts :pac:


  • #71
    afkasurfjunkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭afkasurfjunkie


    False Prophet wrote: »
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1241460363658285056.html

    There’s your material for series 2 right there.


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  • #72
    Notdeco
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Notdeco


    There is another documentary on YouTube called the life exotic. Just popped up on my YouTube, published a year ago, going to have a look now.


  • #73
    Hodors Appletart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Joe Exotic reportedly has the covid.


  • #74
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    What in the actual fcuk did I just watch? I remember seeing Joe Exotic on a Louis Theroux Doc a few years back.


  • #75
    Notdeco
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Notdeco


    Also David Spade has a chat with all involved with the show, one on one.
    It's a very interesting watch.
    (YouTube)


  • #76
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK




    It is probably the truth too.


  • #77
    Hrududu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    Early on when Saff loses an arm to a tiger I thought "This is mental" Little did I realise that at the end it wouldn't even get into my top 10 mental things that happened.

    So many villains. Doc Antle just makes my skin crawl and I hope Jeff gets done by the feds for something.


  • #78
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    Anyone think there is a slight chance that Joe was setup?


  • #79
    Mam of 4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,953 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    Notdeco wrote: »
    There is another documentary on YouTube called the life exotic. Just popped up on my YouTube, published a year ago, going to have a look now.

    Did you watch this Notdeco ?
    Any good ?


  • #80
    Griselda
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 54 ✭✭Griselda


    This is all over my WhatsApp. I'll have to watch.


  • #81
    Notdeco
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Notdeco


    Mam of 4 wrote: »
    Did you watch this Notdeco ?
    Any good ?
    It's OK, it actually has footage that was used in the netflix show. Saff talks about losing her arm.
    It's worth a watch imo.
    It's not bat**** crazy like the netflix one.
    In this it looks like he really does care about the animals.
    (the singing though)


    Edit:It's more like a pro Joe docu.
    But interesting nonetheless


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  • #82
    Notdeco
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Notdeco


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    Anyone think there is a slight chance that Joe was setup?

    Yes. Also David Spade interviews all involved in the series on his YouTube channel have a look


  • #83
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Low budget remake:

    x1ixAOs.jpg

    VXWgehC.jpg


  • #84
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,675 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Just finished it. Literally the most bizarre and incredible thing I've ever watched. I'm convinced Carole is a murderer and Joe isn't as bad as has been made out. The other's in it make my skin crawl.


  • #85
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    So grotesque. I’d happily feed Joe to his big cats if they could stomach him.


  • #86
    ronnie3585
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Finished it last night, I'm so glad that I don't live in America. I'll take the Healy-Raes any day!

    The funeral scene was appalling, Joe's mind bending narcissism really came to the fore.

    Of all the f*cked up thing in this show, the worst was Jeff Lowe's dress sense.


  • #87
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    Finished it last night, I'm so glad that I don't live in America. I'll take the Healy-Raes any day!

    The funeral scene was appalling, Joe's mind bending narcissism really came to the fore.

    Of all the f*cked up thing in this show, the worst was Jeff Lowe's dress sense.

    Surely, Jeff's facial hair was worse. That weird beard thing he had was desperate looking.


  • #88
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Joe on March 22

    https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1246120286799290368?s=21


  • #89
    patmac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭patmac


    False Prophet wrote: »
    Some interesting stuff on this
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1241460363658285056.html

    You should put up a spoiler alert for series 2.
    The whole thing was bizarre especially the triple wedding. Due to a lack of sport, that Garretson lad won out the Gold medal for ‘being creep as fcuk’ against very stiff opposition.


  • #90
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    That was nuts....



    Meth... Meth everywhere....


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  • #91
    cian68
    Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    Does Doc know how he comes across looking for the hottest nanny with his wife sat there? Is that meant to be good banter?


  • #92
    Caegan
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭Caegan


    cian68 wrote: »
    Does Doc know how he comes across looking for the hottest nanny with his wife sat there? Is that meant to be good banter?

    Joe isn't it? Joe is a horrible POS, absolutely needs to be looked at by the authorities properly.


  • #93
    cian68
    Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    I should have said 'your man' I've already forgotten all their names and I finished it today. Except that god damn Carol Baskins


  • #94
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    cian68 wrote: »
    I should have said 'your man' I've already forgotten all their names and I finished it today. Except that god damn Carol Baskins

    Jeff, Joe, John, James - anyone with a J was dodgy.


  • #95
    Caegan
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭Caegan


    Carol was a piece of work, trying to put across a holier than thou persona. Not sure the accusations are true but she was probably more unlikeable than most of the other characters.


  • #96
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    Anyone think there is a slight chance that Joe was setup?

    " slight " ?

    he must have had the most useless defense lawyer ever

    testimony from a bunch of two bit crooks (with rap sheets to boot) sent him down


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  • #97
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    cian68 wrote: »
    Does Doc know how he comes across looking for the hottest nanny with his wife sat there? Is that meant to be good banter?

    that was jeff who was letting his young wife know she needed to get back in shape post maternity while simultaneously signalling his enthusiasm for a busty latin nanny

    slimiest character in the entire show


  • #98
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    " slight " ?

    he must have had the most useless defense lawyer ever

    testimony from a bunch of two bit crooks (with rap sheets to boot) sent him down

    Even Allen the assassin said "apparently I chickened out". Too much macismo to actually say he chickened out, as he was told to, so has to add the "apparently" just so people know he really is a hardman.

    Joe should probably be in prison for animal cruelty, numerous threats and fraud, but I have little doubt he was set up for planning a murder.


  • #99
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    Anyone think there is a slight chance that Joe was setup?

    How so?
    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Just finished it. Literally the most bizarre and incredible thing I've ever watched. I'm convinced Carole is a murderer and Joe isn't as bad as has been made out. The other's in it make my skin crawl.

    Preying on vulnerable people? An conviction for murder-for-hire? Carole may well be a murderer but Joe is convicted of wanting to commit same. So he’s just as bad. Hiring somebody to murder someone is the same as doing it yourself as far as I’m concerned.


  • #100
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Oh my God the video Joe made for Here Kitty Kitty with the Carol lookalike :D


  • #101
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I still have to watch the last episode but I wonder when the lawyer of Carol’s first husband didn’t speculate on his death was he alluding to organized crime? Jeff Lowe gives the impression of someone who is involved in that environment.


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