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Tiger King [Netflix]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,646 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    #FAKENEWS

    Yeah, that post didn't age well.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    So far it is looking like Joe Exotic is going to miss out, despite his lawyer yesterday saying they are almost 100% certain of a pardon and having a limo ready to pick him up outside the prison in Texas. Trump pardonned 70 people this morning and Exotic wasnt one of them. There is still time but if it doesnt happen by 4pm today when Trump ceases to be President then Exotic will remain in prison for the rest of his sentence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭505_


    Great entertainment wise another season of the show etc. But better off he isn’t pardoned. A nasty piece of work who doesn’t deserve the success he would would inevitably have if he was pardoned.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I saw a good few articles comparing Trump and Joe Exotic in that both were failed reality hosts. Would it be possible Trump saw that and, hating the comparison, changed his mind?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭briany


    ixoy wrote: »
    I saw a good few articles comparing Trump and Joe Exotic in that both were failed reality hosts. Would it be possible Trump saw that and, hating the comparison, changed his mind?

    How do we know Trump was even considering a pardon for Exotic in the first place? I saw one short snippet of a press conference where Trump was asked about a possible pardon and he didn't even seem to know who Joe Exotic was. He seemed interested in Joe, from the little the journalist explained to Trump, but that was it. I know Don Jr. saw the show, but Jr. doesn't strike me as someone who carries around lasting sympathies for total strangers.

    Maybe there is more to the story I'm not aware of, otherwise I think Joe was just setting himself up for another fall with the big limo outside the prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    seriously though , i think it would have been a good political choice to pardon Joe , would play well with his base


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    seriously though , i think it would have been a good political choice to pardon Joe , would play well with his base

    I think Trump's base has been all played out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    seriously though , i think it would have been a good political choice to pardon Joe , would play well with his base

    Conservatives are hardly known for their love of drug addicts and homosexuals.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,412 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    505_ wrote: »
    Great entertainment wise another season of the show etc. But better off he isn’t pardoned. A nasty piece of work who doesn’t deserve the success he would would inevitably have if he was pardoned.

    Yeah it’s too easy to get caught up in the show and how dislikeable Carole was but in the real world he deserves to be in prison.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I guess he couldn't come up with the two million needed to buy the pardon from Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭briany


    salmocab wrote: »
    Yeah it’s too easy to get caught up in the show and how dislikeable Carole was but in the real world he deserves to be in prison.

    Yeah, Joe Exotic is an entertaining character, but objectively a worse person than Carole Baskin.
    I guess he couldn't come up with the two million needed to buy the pardon from Trump.

    Should have made a gofundme.

    "If you want season 2 of Tiger King..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,412 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    briany wrote: »
    Yeah, Joe Exotic is an entertaining character, but objectively a worse person than Carole Baskin.
    .."

    Well her ex husband might disagree.
    But yeah he’s entertaining alright. It’s an odd thing of modern life that someone like him can become so well known in a celebrity way whilst being in prison.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I found the whole show depressing and very grim, wish I saw sense and stopped watching after the first episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,234 ✭✭✭✭briany


    salmocab wrote: »
    Well her ex husband might disagree.

    Maybe. If the allegations if her being involved with her husband's disappearance are ever confirmed, I'll probably review my opinion of her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I guess she is making a fair bit of money now she doesn't need to be the focus of season 2 and have a lot of questions asked about her missing husband.

    Tiger King Star Carole Baskin Quits the Series Ahead of Season 2

    https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/tiger-king-star-carole-baskin-quits-the-series-ahead-of-season-/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,507 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Might be of interest, BBC2 have a Louis Theroux show on tonight at 9pm called Shooting Joe Exotic...
    https://twitter.com/ScottyRawk/status/1378993830742081537


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Might be of interest, BBC2 have a Louis Theroux show on tonight at 9pm called Shooting Joe Exotic...
    https://twitter.com/ScottyRawk/status/1378993830742081537

    Anyone have an idea if this is being repeated at any point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭druss


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea if this is being repeated at any point?

    Next Sunday at 22:00. Or BBC iPlayer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,507 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea if this is being repeated at any point?

    It was fairly poor, about 15 minutes of it any use. The producers of Tiger King had exclusive deals with most involved with their show so Louis was very limited in who he could interview. He did meet with Carol Baskin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Louis sadly has been behind the curve the last few years with the amount of documentaries being made for streaming and premium services.

    His last big one on Scientology was hugely disappointing as others had done it better and before him.

    Where he was once the main go to documentation on TV he is now just another among hundreds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Louis sadly has been behind the curve the last few years with the amount of documentaries being made for streaming and premium services.

    His last big one on Scientology was hugely disappointing as others had done it better and before him.

    Where he was once the main go to documentation on TV he is now just another among hundreds.

    I actually think Louis missed a trick with Tiger King. Like he was on the scene first way back in 2011 interviewing Joe Exotic. But he missed out on the real scoop that Netflix later produced. I know the BBC would never have funded a 6 part doc on a tiger park but Im sure Louis could have found funding for the full story and grabbed the glory and awards for himself. By making this doc now he is just standing on the coat tails of the Netflix crew who got Tiger King out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭druss


    Louis sadly has been behind the curve the last few years with the amount of documentaries being made for streaming and premium services.

    His last big one on Scientology was hugely disappointing as others had done it better and before him.

    Where he was once the main go to documentation on TV he is now just another among hundreds.

    I agree that his Scientology doc underwhelmed. But I still think he does good work.

    I also don't think he is in the same market as Tiger King or Making a Murderer. Room for both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,412 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    druss wrote: »
    I agree that his Scientology doc underwhelmed. But I still think he does good work.

    I also don't think he is in the same market as Tiger King or Making a Murderer. Room for both.

    In fairness if he’d done Tiger King it would have been very very different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭druss


    salmocab wrote: »
    In fairness if he’d done Tiger King it would have been very very different.

    Agree. LT is an active participant on screen in his work, but editorially he is much more neutral than Tiger King or Making a Murderer type productions.

    I enjoyed Tiger King, but there are aspects of it and MaM that are ethically dodgy. It's not something Theroux would make.

    I didn't see all of the programme the other night. I caught the end and the interview with Joe's brother was interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,412 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    druss wrote: »
    Agree. LT is an active participant on screen in his work, but editorially he is much more neutral than Tiger King or Making a Murderer type productions.

    I enjoyed Tiger King, but there are aspects of it and MaM that are ethically dodgy. It's not something Theroux would make.

    I didn't see all of the programme the other night. I caught the end and the interview with Joe's brother was interesting.

    Yeah I enjoyed it but it felt more like light entertainment than a documentary, watched a bit last night and was enjoying it and will finish it later in the week.
    What I did think from last night was though how annoying carol baskin is still


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    druss wrote: »
    I agree that his Scientology doc underwhelmed. But I still think he does good work.

    I also don't think he is in the same market as Tiger King or Making a Murderer. Room for both.

    He is still one of the best documentations out there for sure he just has more competition now and up against streaming platforms that are throwing billions at content and documentaries can be at the cheaper end of that to make so the are churned out now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,594 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Season 2 drops tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Anyone watching? I've heard it isn't great (and I loved the first season).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Very hard to capture lightning in a bottle twice. Everything from the heightened expectation levels to having to draw on far less material when trying to do a follow up makes it very tough to do anything but disappoint, especially in the initial release - some sequels/follow ups have looked better a few years later.

    Haven't watched any of season 2 yet of Tiger King for the record, so can't comment on that specifically.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,721 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Watched it all, its only 5 episodes. Seemed a little bit rushed compared to the last one, it threatens to go places but then jumps to a different storyline, never really lands the killer blow. Definitely wasn't the same level of crazy but a fair amount of crazy all the same- worth a watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Finished it , just more comfirmation in case any was needed that they are all horrible people and this glorifies them to no end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    No not really it's just circulating around most of the same stuff they showed already I'm amazed they even got 5 episodes out of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,507 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes not much in it at all that a quick Google of where the case was now wouldn't have told people. I suspect Netflix will be very pleased even if they get 50% of the audience of Season 1 out of it, budget would have been tiny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,905 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    New 3 part spin off doc arrives December 10th.

     Tiger King: The Doc Antle Story





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