Petrol v diesel cars

bazz26 wrote: »

Well god help them if they are spending that much time driving in an Kona EV to warrant it saving them 20k. I'd say that is the exception rather than the rule with your typical private owner who isn't driving it for the tax breaks. They would probably only be doing average mileage so hard to see where those people would actually save that 20k difference over the petrol unless they keep the car for many years at which stage the range on the Kona EV will probably be obsolete compared to newer rival EVs.

I can see some similarities to 2008/2009 with people going out spending thousands on new cars to save a few hundred on motor tax.

That's their decision.

Not sure how you see similarities, people swapped a 2007 car to a 2008 to reduce 200 euro on tax. While still spending the same amount of fuel etc.

THe cost saving on electric include servicing, fuel, tolls, BIK, tax, insurance in most cases etc. Plus they are better for the environment. The tax reduction in reality is minimal. Combine with solar PV and you can have zero cost for fuel while also reducing home energy costs.

The Kona has a 64kWh battery for instance, how would that be obsolete? All the manufactuers have settled on a 4XkWh and a 6XkWh option. Some bringing out a higher battery option which will only be for the few.

In 5-6 years time you will still be buying a new EV with a 64kWh battery, even the most progressive companies are suggesting an alternative to the current battery make up will not be in general production till after that. Degradation which is always fired out is not going to affect unless you have hundreds of thousands of KM on the car which at that stage it would have already paid for itself and like a combustion engine car it would be scrapped anyway.

If low mileage on the car it will be worth more in second hand market because at that stage the fuel cost for petrol/diesel will be high based on the current trend.

In reality, the exterior of the car will fail before the battery and the motor will. Even in that situation the batteries are hot property to get used as SolarPV backup system.

So do you really think someone buying a new electric is the same as swapping a car to reduce tax by a few hundred?

cnocbui wrote: »

In your mind perhaps, but not to most other people who aren't into tech for techs sake and just want transportation they can afford. Given the enormous weight of batteries, I'm sure it is a different driving experience - great if you are into barges.

Safe to make a guess you have never driven an electric car so?

RandomViewer wrote: »

Leaf is truly ugly ,
Hydrogen cars will be operational by the time Dacia start using Zoe parts, electric vehicles will never be used in Eastern Russia , the most of South America and Africa, even parts of the US and Canada will never find electric vehicles usable so I believe in 10-15 years time the electric car will be obsolete

Based on what?