Street Fighter V: Despite all his ragé he's still just a rat in a Kage

I don't know how anyone can advocate omegas input buffer system. Combos aren't hard, especially not bnbs. If you don't like learning bnb combos then why play fighting games?

People are talking like combos are hard or like some massively important part of the game. I disagree heavily. BNBs are really all you need and learning and executing bnbs is a core part of SF and also isn't hard at all. Having more damaging combos for specific situations is nice to have but not necessary to learn, but I like how it rewards people for having put the time and effort in. That's how fighting games work.

You're rewarded for spacing, punishing and solid fundamentals in fgs.

A chain combo system is kinda silly. Doesn't belong in a SF game. The counter argument is that it takes away from the "combo grind" and allows people to focus more on footsies etc. But it takes away from footsies. Being able to chain footsie pokes into chains for big damage is ridiculous. Combos aren't barring anyone from playing sf and its not a barrier to learning the game, at all.

Input leniency is way worse than shortcuts. I'd rather a shortcut system where people had to time reversals rather than a system where reversals are extremely easy to do. Shortcuts are fine.

Tldr : stop crying babies who cant do bnbs or reversals and fu capcom if you tone down the game any more as is.

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Don't listen to experienced players who know what they're talking about like Ramza.

Ftfy :pac:

Naphiel wrote: »

Rewarding people for putting large amounts of time in training mode on combos alone is pretty dumb. Reward conversions and hit confirms, not simply execution.

I much prefer early recognition of important things like counter hits and spacing on hit being rewarded with more damage than a 1f link or something.

I agree but that's not the point I made. Bnbs don't require huge amounts of time to learn and really come with gameplay and experience. Watch any high level sf match and 95% of combos done are hit confirmed bread and butters. Longer combos are punishes or from baiting a dp etc. Literally every fighting game requires you to have bnbs.

Watch any high level sf match and you'll see this. Take momochi, his spacing and zoning is on another level. Cr lk cr jab linked to dp is probably the only combo he does. Confirms to shoryu or cr mk tatsu is the extent of his combos. All bnbs and arent hard to do. That rings true for any if not all characters in sf. High level sf isn't decided by combos. Good spacing and solid overall fundamentals are the key components of high level sf.

Games like GG and marvel etc are more heavily combo oriented. 1f links in sf really don't take huge practice and some of the more damaging ones don't make or break games. You aren't rewarded games based on having sick 1f links :pac: People are overly exageratting the seemingly huge reward 1f links bring. Learn your bnbs and you'll be fine.

Which is why I agree that people should be rewarded for the other fundamentals, its why I think sf is the best fg. Look at st, while the game has very high damage, you rarely if at all see any combos. You're rewarded for spacing and zoning and fundamentals. The same applies to sf4 and should in sf5, which is why I am opposing silly chain combos. Its not the kinda game to have that kinda system and bringing it into sf5 will only bode negatively.

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

God forbid it be heavily punishable if baited.

Alpha counters aren't whiffable or baitable up close since you need to force someone to a block state for them to do it. Once they activate, they work. Unless they implement a system where alpha counters can be alpha countered. Even still, corner switch alpha counter sounds ridiculous, one bar or not.

Looks like the general direction of the game is very offense based and quite 3s esque, fireballs will be useless in some matchups (ryu bison and charlie v skill eats them for v meter), a lot less hard knockdown. This is good.

Charlie's ex cmd grab thing also steals health, that's a very darkstalkers esque thing. Also interesting to note that Charlie isn't a charge character, all his moves are command inputs.

Still not a fan of this HUD, it's not very capcom imo.

The Hound wrote: »

Game looks great. That Bison walk animation is too good, nerf it. He doesnt look all charge. His ultra was executed during walk forward

He's all charge apart from his V Skill and his super being qcf motion.

I'm really liking how he looks in this version, scissor kick still looks amazing, looks like he has great normals and his v trigger is feckin insane.